Grateful Dead

Dave's Picks Volume 10: Thelma, Los Angeles, CA 12/12/69 - SOLD OUT

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The last of a three-night run at a mysterious little club called "Thelma" found the Grateful Dead restoring glory to the Sunset Strip for what was once just a fleeting moment, now preserved for eternity with this here Dave's Picks Volume 10. Hot off the release of the highly-acclaimed Live/Dead and setting the stage for Workingman's Dead, 12/12/69 stands to represent the crux of the band's musical past, present, and future. Witness the first signs of country, folk, and Americana infiltrating an otherwise wildly experimental and anarchic period, evidenced by Pigpen-driven classics like "I'm A King Bee," "Hard To Handle," "Good Lovin'" and a whopping 30 minute+ version of "Turn On Your Lovelight," as well as over a half dozen then-new compositions which show the Garcia/Hunter songwriting duo elevating the Dead to higher ground. Thelma turns the heat up indeed!

Mastered in HDCD from the original soundboard recordings produced by Owsley Stanley, featuring the once lost, now found first reel, this is one full show you won't want to miss. Pre-order it here and now!

Product Details

3 Disc set
Limited to 14,000 individually numbered copies
Mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman
Digipak made of 100% recycled and PCW materials
Release Date: May 1, 2014

Listening Party

12/12/69, Los Angeles, CA


"Easy Wind"

"Cumberland Blues"

David Lemieux Volume 10 Seaside Chat

Tracklist

Thelma, Los Angeles, CA 12/12/69

Disc 1
1. Cold Rain And Snow (5:53)
2. Me And My Uncle (4:05)
3. Easy Wind (9:33)
4. Cumberland Blues (7:39)
5. Black Peter (12:19)
6. Next Time You See Me (5:43)
7. China Cat Sunflower (5:19)
8. I Know You Rider (5:55)

Disc 2
1. Turn On Your Lovelight (31:57)
2. Hard To Handle (4:40)
3. Casey Jones (4:55)
4. Mama Tried (2:37)
5. High Time (7:34)
6. Dire Wolf (4:51
7. Good Lovin’ (6:18)
8. I’m A King Bee (7:44)

Disc 3
1. Uncle John’s Band (8:39)
2. He Was A Friend Of Mine (4:13)
3. Alligator (4:08)
4. Drums (7:00)
5. Alligator (9:15)
6. Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) (22:43)
7. Feedback (7:11)
8. And We Bid You Goodnight (3:27)

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Wave that Flag all the way from Brasil

What a great game, the atmosphere was like Independence Day times ten down here at the Castelao in Fortaleza.

I'll celebrate with 2-4-70 Download Series. Love the Pigpen line from Good Lovin in the filler. About Rockafeller and the "One monkey".

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Wave That Flag!

Among the many privileges I'm grateful for today is the freedom to listen to music of my choice any time I want.

Think I'll cue up July 4, 1981 and turn the volume knob to 11!

Happy Independence Day, everyone!

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A vote for Barry is a vote for fun

If my memory serves me well it was 50 years ago today the Pranksters drove the bus Furthur backwards in the 4th of July parade in downtown Phoenix. It was 40 years ago today Brother Wynn Allman and I were camped up in the Three Sisters Wilderness, Oregon. A huge thunder storm raged in the west that night above the Willamette Valley. Dry lightning flashed overhead. Today here in western New Mexixo the summer monsoons started up. Here comes the rain. Ran into a rain storm. Listen the thunder shout, I am. Run me out in the Cold Rain & Snow. Listen to the sound of the thunder and the rain pouring down. Water bright as the sky from which it came.
I was blown away when I first saw the Dead perform Looks Like Rain at the Academy of Music in 1972. Garcia played pedal steel guitar for that song and the sound rose like waves of light.
Happy Independence Day. And in the immortal words of Charles Dickens
through the character Tiny Tim " God Bless them, each and every one."
If you see me at Ratdog in Phoenix Monday night say hello. I'll be the one dancing wearing a tie die shirt (87 rain forest GD) with long hair.

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Allman Joy...

Continuing on my 4th of July weekend music binge I broke out the Allman Brothers live at the Atlanta International Pop Festival. I love this one. I think the sound is better than some of their more recent archival releases.

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Barlow, sorry...

No, I'm pretty sure it's "street cats" not stray cats. Stray cats would also make sense, though, along with alley cats.

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Looks Like Rain was written

Looks Like Rain was written by John Perry Barlow.

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Stray cats

I always thought he said, Stray cats making love?..

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Speaking of LL Rain and other songs

What is a "street cat" anyway? I've always assumed Hunter meant "alley cats"; but then why didn't he say alley cats?

As far as songs that I have a hard time with; I know it's heresy but...Fire On The Mountain. The Reggae versions anyway. They were not a Reggae band.

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And to Claney...

...I've always enjoyed the smell of burning sulfur that are fireworks. Plus, It's only once a year. Wait. So are box set announcements. Touche'.....

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In response to Oxford 88....

...LLR->Terrapin->Drumz was known to create a wake of calmness during the storm that was a Dead show in the late '80's. Believe me, I know. '88-'89 shows was my hunting ground. Sigh.....where has my hair gone?

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Fireworks over the Dead?

kjohn, you beat me to it - Phil knew what he was doing when he picked the Tuscaloosa 77 version of Jack a Roe for "Fallout from the Phil Zone" (great compilation actually, not least because of the half-hour version of Midnight Hour). I listened to that version over and over when I first got Fallout...lilting perfection,.

I'm weird I guess, never got the deal with fireworks. You set em off, stuff smells like crap, stuff is loud, it's hot out, dogs freak out, then your done. Meanwhile my May 77 Box from last year just keeps giving...

But Vguy, I do thank you for that post - because, since I never spend money on fireworks, I can add that to my file of rationalizations for why it's okay for me to spend so much money on this damn band. "Well, I don't smoke, so it's not like I'm spending a thousand bucks a year on cigs!" or "Well, I don't spend money on fireworks, so...."

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I have $100 to blow....

....do I save it while I wait for the next box set announcement, or blow it on fireworks? Fireworks win.....by a hair. Happy Independence Day everyone!! I'll be wearing my Spirit of 76 tee today.
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the Englishtown Peggy-O is my all-time favorite....pure bliss

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re: "Goes to C right there Keith"

That was from the soundcheck that night...

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re: Peggy-O 12/12/73

"Goes to C right there Keith"

Nice touch - never afraid to get it right - even during the song...

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Best Peggy-O

...well, 9/14/82 of course!

(Kidding... but barely...)

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First Peggy-o

Thanks Kjohnduff...didn't know they did it that early...cool

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12/12/73

First Peggy-O

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it's the song i hate

thank you sonic youth

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77 Peggy-O's

Man I love me some 77 Peggy-o anyone know when they first did the song?...probably my favorite Jerry ballad...

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FloridaBobbaLoo

It's never stoopid... Everyone has their likes and dislikes...
Ring up the 5/17/77 Jack-A-Roe when you get a chance. The '77 versions have a cool "slinky" groove to them that makes them special. As for Row Jimmy... I have heard other people say that have a tough time getting into it. I personally LOVE Row Jimmy. Kind of a reggae feel to it... Especially the versions from 1977 and later.

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Jack A Roe and Jimmy Row

I have to say I always loved Jack A Roe and Jimmy Row. Particularly Jack A Roe. There were some really nice versions of both around 1977. I liked when they would extend the opening to Jack A Roe a bit and get a nice groove going before they came in with "There was a wealthy merchant... ". Looks like Rain is another I liked. Agree with those that mentioned Garcia's playing in that song. Lyrics bordered on cheesy and they were kind of lovey dovey but still a nice song.

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LL RAIN

Even if one disdains the lyrics, musically the song is often a vehicle for some very soulful playing by Garcia.

On lyrics, while his batting average is incredibly high, let's not forget Robert Hunter penned the lyrics to "Samba in the Rain" and "Wave to the Wind" which are on the short list of the most horrifyingly awful and cheese-laden Dead lyrics ever. Everyone burps, including Hunter. Though he can at least wash his hands of "Childhood's End" the blood from which is exclusively Phil's (a fact the Philistines love to overlook when bashing Weir compositions).

PS Spacebro, 19 years. Don't age us more than need be! A terrible day and experience that took me years to get past, particularly in light of Garcia's death four plus weeks later and that being the last time I saw him

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Jack A Roe. and. Row Jimmy

These two titles have been harder for me to get into than LL Rain.
Am I stoopid ?

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Looks like Arthur

Heavy rain on Block Island this morning. LLR didn't move me in either direction until 12/15/86. Due to many factors, emotional and chemical, this 2nd set version really got me. Candace's swirling green lights had a crazy spaceship effect and the playing was particularly poignant. Even Jerry's odd moaning at the end drew a roar. After that I enjoyed most of the LLRs I saw, especially when it led into Terrapin. Happy 4th!

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LL Rain - 5/5/77

Ok... I'm trying...
Just gave 5/5/77 LL Rain a spin and you are definitely right. A GREAT version of a song that I'm not crazy about...
5/5/77 is such an unbelievable show all around. That show gets overlooked sometimes because it sits right there next to Boston, Cornell and Buffalo. I would put New Haven right up there with any show from any year. The Peggy-O is just awesome.

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LL Pain

Are we really filling 2 pages of comments on LLRain???? And now I'm getting sucked in… somebody help...

Kind of a sappy over-literal (these are not Robert Hunter lyrics!) cheese-fest, but admittedly for me a guilty-pleasure type song - like David Spade and Chris Farley driving down the road singing the Carpenters (Tommy Boy reference).

I used to go apeshit over this sing in my teens…. Why? One word: Jerry. i play guitar, and Jer's solo in this song, when played without messing it up, is one of the most melodic, powerful solos Jerry ever does. Especially when he navigates all the final major/minor chord changes to hit THAT NOTE as the song comes back into the chorus just before verse 3. Then in the 80's/midi era they added that great "Without A Net" crescendo at the end with thunder sounds and Jerry going off again. Not many songs were this powerful,

The problem I have with the song is that since the jam is such a gem, if Jerry f'd it up (very common in later years), then it felt like a total letdown. Like the 4th of July Fireworks getting cancelled due to … rain.

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loved and loathed

funny that! i think the steve hoffman forum has been mentioned and i think it is ok to mention??

but a lot beatles stuff on that forum… so point is, i am not a big fan of "she's leaving home" on the pepper album… and i am not alone on that…
but, there are quite a few folks that really like it! i never knew, so there you go,

happy 4th!

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happy 4th

to all of you. Glad to see SC escaped heavy damage from Arthur-I hope NC damage to outer banks wasn't too bad. hoping to hear some release news around soon unless they are saving it all for 2015. If so save your money for next year. Waiting on Garcia Live 4- looks like a good one.

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Truckin' Up To Buffalo...

Truckin' Up To Buffalo-7/4/89 is definitely getting a spin today! Peace!

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Shakespeare

I should share some of the private messages this guy has sent to me before I blocked him from being able to do so.

To reiterate, I like ALL eras. I want to see releases from ALL eras. If my viewpoint of being bored with the status quo bothers you so much, that's your problem.

Speaking of Deadheads who act like a-holes...

Yesterday was the 19th anniversary of the Deer Creek cancellation that left many of us who invested substantial amount of money and time planning our vacations screwed. I've even encountered some of these people who actually bragged and boasted about their accomplishment and felt no guilt or shame of robbing the Rex Foundation out of money. Thanks for nothing.

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LL rain favorite

There are many great versions out there but my fav is 5/5/77.
I think this show has more of my all time favorite versions in the 1st set than any other.
My favorite
Sugaree, Peggy-o, LL-Rain, Music Never Stopped, and a smokin Tennessee. To me the 1st set really outshines the 2nd.
Jus my 2 cents
P.S. When "sweet william he is dead" phil drops the lowest note ever and it really hits home

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& hey, and where'd the Jam of the Week go??

...did they take it down early, so that we all wake up to a super sick JotW on the 4th???!!???
hope so...

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LL Rain debate Volume #2

this tune was passionately debated on the May 1977 Boxset thread a year or so ago... those 77 versions (76 for me as well) had Donna Jean sounding beautiful singing 2nd lead basically with Bobby... personally speaking, there are a few lines in that tune that really hit home, especially "...it's just that iiiiiiiiiii, had gotten used to havin you around... the landscape would be empty if you were gone" certainly been there... ntm it's a GD tune every broad i&i know loves... while writing this been listening to the Dick's #30 early version WITH JERRY PLAYING PEDAL STEEL & Lesh singing background vox with Bobby... so unique... sooooo cool... thanx brother brian... hey, & again, happy anni... sounds like you scored a keeper...
as for those clamouring for 7.2.88 go dig Master Charlie Miller's version on ze archive... it's matrix-y & arguably sounds better than the 4.1.88 Road Trips... i'll be slightly eq-ing (CM not big on eq, but a lil is okay for me) my download of it & burning perfect sounding cds of it tomorrow... PM me if you desire these... Happy 4th of Uli! (shout out, De Cat!!!) ♤

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FennarioXRDS: "The street cat

FennarioXRDS:

"The street cat line almost ruins it for me. Lovely song other than that, cheesy or not."

I agree, never liked that line much either, but otherwise do enjoy the song.

I'm reminded of something funny Phil said in an interview one time though (Weir here with Phil 3-13-13)...

Bobby: "When we were living out in Forest Knolls in this old summer camp, I lived next door and the walls were real, real thin plywood, you know, basically cardboard, and I was next door to Pigpen's room, and when Janis [Joplin] came over I didn't get a lot of sleep."

Phil: "You know, that's funny too, because I've often wondered if that line in, um, Looks Like Rain, 'Street cats making love' if it was inspired by Pigpen and Janis."

Hahahaha.

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LLR

I'm in the "Looks Like Rain" fan club. First heard it on an episode of the Grateful Dead hour, way back in 1988. It was paired with a nice version of "They Love Each Other". Don't know what show those were from, but the whole set David Gans played was stellar. Brings back fond memories.

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Although, I remember........

....a pretty cool L.L. Bean knock-off tee back in the day....

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LLR fans disband! I'm grabbing a beer!!

...chuckle...

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some 80s fun

3/28/81!!!

5/22/82!!!

GREEK BOX!!!

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LLR fans unite! I'll go get a soda.

funny how songs can be loved and loathed simultaneously.

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LLR

top 5 for me. well, not if i counted, but okay, top 5 bobby song for me. "written in the letters of your name?" - c'mon - i dated a peruvian named Bea - it was like bobby wrote the song for me ... man.

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@WharfRatWhitey

Drain?

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LL Rain

The street cat line almost ruins it for me. Lovely song other than that, cheesy or not.

Cheesy song? And Bob Weir? Nahhh...

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Looks Like Drain...

Can lyrics written in the early 70's technically be "cheese-y"? Late 70's...check. 80's...check. Early 90's...mmm...check. 1971/1972...nah.

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LL Rain

The melody and guitar work is actually beautiful...
I just can't get past the lyrics. I would never classify GD lyrics as "cheese-y" except for LL rain.
Oh well... There's always going to be a song or two that doesn't do it for everyone.
That one is definitely mine...

Black Throated Wind on the other hand... I've really grown to appreciate!

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Funny that...

Looks like rain is my favorite of all time.

Happy 4th wave the flag cop a bag well that is how i always heard it

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Well, in NY it 'LL Rain

Perfect timing...glad to see others chime in as well....I've always liked LL Rain...

Even from the Honeymooners.... Ralph's code for Norton....." it certainly looks like RAIN tonight Alice"

Hates just the last thing they're thinking of. ..

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Looks Like Rain

Y'all are killing me!! Looks like rain is my favorite of all time. The Without A Net version is my favorite song of all time. I prefer the 80's / 90's versions over the 70's though. To each their own I suppose

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Looks Like Rain in Northeast...

Looks Like Rain was one of the songs that got me into the band without question. I agree with an earlier post. The combination of Bobby's singing with Jerry's guitar playing was unparalleled on some versions. Especially towards the end. It's a wonderful example of the interplay between the two. It's Bobby letting it out like Jerry did on Stella Blue or Wharf Rat. You don't have to like it but give it another try. Happy Fourth Folks.

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LL Rain

There are some versions where Jerry plays beautifully, making the song "worth it." If memory serves, a fine example of this occurs on "Steppin' Out." ('72) I like the rhythm/lyric: "...I'll still sing you love songs...written...in the letters of your name..."
Frankly, I'd rather hear LL Rain than, say, Black Throated Wind.

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LL Rain

is that the one with street cats making love… not a fan, sorry