Dave's Picks Volume 11: Century II Convention Hall, Wichita, KS 11/17/72 - SOLD OUT
Jack Straw may have been from Wichita but the Grateful Dead only played there once and what a show it was! Whether the band knew they would only have one shot to show the "Doo-dah" city what they were all about, we just don't know but they sure did nail it. Dick's Picks producer Dick Latvala initially considered this one for release and with a single listen, you'll know why. From the epic 90-minute 16-song first set to super tight ditties from the massively popular Workingman's Dead and American Beauty albums and newly minted Europe '72 classics like "He's Gone," "Brown-Eyed Women," and "China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider," you're bound to agree. Lest we forget to mention the great sounding tapes and excellent acoustics at the Century II Convention Hall. (Oh, and as a little bonus, we've thrown in the best of the bunch from Oklahoma City 11/15/72!)
Mastered in HDCD from the original soundboard recordings produced by Owsley Stanley, with fresh artwork from Tony Millionaire (and his little dog too), and liner notes from original handbill artist and then first-time Grateful Dead concert attendee Gary Houston, this sonic adventure is one to cross off the old bucket list.
Pre-order it here while you can!
3 Disc set
Limited to 14,000 individually numbered copies
Mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman
Digipak made of 100% recycled and PCW materials
Release Date: August 1, 2014
A note about the cover: The Black and White cover is the only cover made for this release. The color version is the booklet cover. The Black and White version wasn't revealed till Street Date which is why the booklet color version was the only version shown at the time of Pre-order.
Century II Convention Hall, Wichita, KS (11/17/72)
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...but he was commissioned (i.e. contracted and paid) to sculpt it by the Overseers of the Office of Works of Florence Cathedral (consisting mostly of members of the influential woolen cloth guild, the Arte della Lana).
He was also commissioned by Pope Julius II to paint the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.
I'm not sure I understand the idea that art that is bought, sold, or paid for is somehow less pure or honest.
Please please please let one of the Mountain Girl returns be one of these. Like a November Capitol Theater. Or one of these September Fillmore's. I'm into this 9/19/70 which Kat just linked....happy anniversary indeed. If I could use one word to describe this Dark Star it would be "sincere". As in "you want to hear a DS, folks? Well, here you go".
The Kaplan matrix (31510) is actively seeding on etree (at an impressive clip, I should add)...thanks again dantian & simon, this really does change everything - like I've stepped through the looking glass!/k
Famously: "We'd have sold out, if anyone was buying!"
Of course, he was being facetious. The GD held out longer than any other band and they almost drove Dave Hassinger, who played a significant role in helping the Stones in the studio, out of his mind.
I have knowledge I could sell for good money. But it'd go against everything that allows me to breathe. So I just sell my services to people whose viewpoint I can support.
As I largely avoid TV, except for late night film noir and the news, and rarely see popular movies, I'm safe from worrying about, say, a remake of "Rosemary's Baby" with Jer singing "What's Become of the Baby" in the background!!!!!!
So, as long as I'M safe, why would I possibly care??
Just kidding! I want y'all to be safe too, for your own sakes and ALSO because if you're not, the whole Vault release market goes to hell. (It always comes back to MY NEEDS...)
Folks, once again it's Friday Afternoon and 4:20 (MTN) is comin' on fast. Getting a little addled here...
Everybody have fun tonight. And BE SAFE!
Phenomenal show......here's hoping another show from St. Paul is released as part of Dave Picks - 7/10/81....please!!!!
Nothing wrong with the way Ripple was used in the Mask motion picture. Ripple plays as Cher unexpectedly finds her son dead. Poignant scene to say the least. Though you truly felt comforted with that beautiful track playing in the background....
A few pages back there was a brief discussion on favorite versions...
I'll offer up the encore from 5/11/77
Jerry's vocals are pure tender emotion
Keith's keys are sublime
This one is the sweet, sweet nectar
Stay safe everyone
That Michael Angelo didn't license David for a Hanes ad!
1986-7 Eric Clapton re records After Midnight for a beer spot. That was the start.
Now your favorite tunes and memories are used to sell everything from Tampons to Trampoleans.
Modern Marketing is the reason they will tell you. Exploitation and greed, if you want honesty. And you know what the hell, they own the copyrights and all that stuff. Sure. It just cheapens the whole thing to me. If an ad firm can't come up with a catchy jingle anymore, and they cop out and license a Zeppelin song, so what?
It's just hard to swallow! Hippies were right! And then most of them copped out to and become Yuppies!
No place to hide. No place to run.
I guess I'm a little disillusioned eh?
at this point in my life, I'd sell.
all i have to offer song wise is the meaningless dribble I hum and sing throughout the day and night.
Doesn't sound like GD music releases, sounds like advertising-related music placement and/or TV/movie soundtrack placements.
I think we're safe from a "two channel" vault release approach.
I'm relieved to hear this pertains to all but songs written by Garcia-Hunter. So beautiful that Bob Hunter is the Veto Man; he's gonna protect his (and Jer's) legacy by not hoking it up for a buck. And Hunter needs money.
I call that integrity and am glad for it in this world where everything is for sale.
Nicely put hendrixfreak. I'm with you... In Dave We Trust.
IMO Cornell (and Buffalo and Boston and New Haven) will absolutely be released when the tapes inevitably get back in the vault's possession. I'm sure they will fill in the holes ala this Spring Box 2.
Would hate to have future releases based on what TV commercial revenue could be generated...
Interesting indeed. This would be in addition to Rhino, not replacing it (?)
Oh man, just what the world needs is a GMC ad with "Truckin'"
oops, gotta get to class and re-focus on World History.
From Billboard, Quote:
Exclusive: The Grateful Dead Ink Publishing Deal With Universal
How does a band mark a 50th anniversary as an event rather than a footnote? Universal Music Publishing Group thinks it has a plan to breathe new life into The Grateful Dead. Formed in 1965, the iconic psychedelic act toured up until a month before founder Jerry Garcia’s death in 1995, and had historic success in the live arena -- it was a top 10 draw throughout the 1990s, and ranked No. 1 twice. The group also scored a hit single -- “Touch of Grey” peaked at No. 9 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 1987 -- and cultivated a legendarily devoted fan base.
Still, says UMPG North America president Evan Lamberg, “Young people may know the name Grateful Dead, but not be as familiar with their music. If you’re not putting yourself into relevant areas where your music can be discovered, your music could be lost to the younger [generation].”
It’s an opportunity he hopes to explore at UMPG, which will handle global administration for The Dead’s song catalog in a deal signed with the band’s publishing company, Ice Nine.
But before you start humming “Truckin’ ” along with the next GMC ad your DVR is hopping over, Lamberg notes that the partnership includes film and TV synchs but limits placement in commercials to songs not written by the band’s primary collaborator, Robert Hunter, who has veto power. “We will bring them everything for them to review,” says Lamberg, “and we will learn more about what they want.” His hope: “That this deal might get some conversations started out there among other iconic artists who haven’t done global deals.”
....always a grate launching pad for Dead shows. Top three month.....May and November were notable also....
Here's some more great 80's
And 12-1-79 is another gem. It was featured on tapers section the same week off 11-17-72. Most of the comments raved about the 79 piece
10-29-73 and 10-30-73
11-4-77 are a few shows worth a peak.
This portion is just Alligator and Lovelight but it's very clear for 67'
Also 3-18-67 is another early nugget
Two shows to buy right now are 4-16-72 and 4-17-72, first night jam after Truckin is one of the best ever by GD. And the next night 1st set is almost flawless. Great mix of songs with another amazing jam from Dark Star > Sugar Mag
Twenty-seven years ago today, 19,000 of us saw a hot show in Madison Square Garden. The joint was jumpin'. I hope a well mixed matrix of 9/18/87 is released someday, but I can wait patiently for several more years (health permitting !!).
Time for a clue, Bolo. I guess your Giants are gonna play in October, after all. Shouldn't that be reason enough to throw us a bone?
12/1/79 for DP12?
24 years a Deadhead and I'm still waiting for the first 1967 live release. Someday. I can feel it. I'm still thinking the next release is from 1973 but then after hearing the calls for 1971 I started thinking that with MUAM and DaP11 both being 72 it might be redundant, or rather the sets lists might too closely resemble the recent 72 action and thus void that out. 73 would be on the other side of 72 and thus considered redundant or too close for releases sake. or something like that. DaP12 will be sweet no doubt. Thinking about my favorite releases in the series Fox Theater 11/80 came to mind! Definitely ranks in my top 5 DaP's. The recording has a nice plush sound. There's a tightness to this show that I really like. This show doesn't get much chatter. It's in my play pile for the weekend. Maybe I'll start rethinking my guess for DaP12. Maybe. Really? The Next show is from 1982? Never would have guessed that. Cool. Peace.
no obligations, some "refreshments", and my GD collection. i would listen and groove 24/7.
so little time to listen. some, but never enough.
i did listen to 4/8/72's Dark Star on the way home yesterday.
autumn begins in 6 days. then comes halloween, thanksgiving, my birthday, Christmas, new year's, and then only 79 days until spring starts.
some GD will be released in that time frame, as well.
Actually it's a Scottish folk song that Bob covered...
Check out my friends at wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bonnie_Lass_o'_Fyvie
Clancy Brothers recorded a version in 1961, Bob Dylan recorded a version in 1962...
Wharfrattx said: "We have the music in great quality. Is that not enough? I would much rather see other uncirculated gems come to light before these. I don't think I'm alone here."
Here's another view: we used to think that the Red Rocks '78 shows weren't released because "everybody had them." If that was true, then why release Englishtown? I was there. And a pal made me a tape of the broadcast. Yet I snatched up the official release as it presented the show in superior fashion.
My current thinking: Dave is looking to release great shows. He won't hold them back based on some loose notion that "everyone" has them, just because if you're an active trader or seeker of a show you'll have it in pristine sound. Many of us don't have what to others are obvious shows in our collections.
The best sound will almost always come from a well-mastered vault tape. Yes, the packaging still matters. The difference between a CD-R with highlighter on it and a well-curated vault release is a huge difference. My official releases get more attention and I derive value from the pics, booklet and so forth.
I no longer trade, though I accept must-hear gifts. Finally, DaP is the venue for the extensive and getting more extensive live legacy of this band, so the DaP series is not just about us. It's also about the band. And these freakin' DaPs have all sold out, even when the tapes are in circulation.
With all my activities/interests, I'm happy to put the tape trading behind me and let Dave deliver to my mailbox. Whatever he thinks is best is 'o-tay' with me!
Will I eventually ID a few gaps in my collection and go out looking for a few gems? For sure. Do we all seek uncirc'd gems? For sure. Is Dave at the wheel of this bus? For sure.
If any of us got into that dang vault, we'd be a) spastic, running from show to show, and b) like kids the day after Halloween -- cross-eyed from too much candy.
Try reading the tea leaves after DaP 12. I'll bet it confounds expectations. Unless "something big" means an ... wait for it ... uncirc'd gem. (I'm humming the melody to the new hit, "MG's Lost Reels"....
Just browsing my old Dylan cd's and I never realized peggy-o is a Dylan tune...wow Jerry does it much better...
if they were to be released, i would buy them without hesitation.
and i believe that hype for cornell alone would make them an instant sell-out, in hours probably
so i think the question should be, if they have the masters, why wouldn't they release them?
i doubt releases are a zero-sum situation
Both Dick and Dave have questioned the need for official releases of these shows. Everyone has them in great quality, and if not, they're readily available in such high quality as to rival other official releases. So I'm curious. Is it the potential packaging and/or the excitement about store-bought releases that cause some folks to keep petitioning for these releases over other, rarely-heard shows? Do you really need that little collector's booklet? We have the music in great quality. Is that not enough? I would much rather see other uncirculated gems come to light before these. I don't think I'm alone here.
That late April show is awesome...thanks for reminding me of it...
Almost but not quite 5/77.....
Download Series Vol 1...
This will be sick, here's hoping....
...more Brent era please! Something from '84-'86!
On another note, I recently browsed the Steve Hoffman forums Dave's Picks threads and noticed a consensus for an air of contempt towards post '70s Dead. No wonder why it's been so peaceful around here since the S'90 (TOO) announcement and shipping for the past month. Wow!...
...which brings me to..
It's weird to me how some music fans become polarized with different line-ups of their favorite bands, despite that they continue to perform, write and record great music. It's not limited to the Dead either.
With Deep Purple, it's the Ritchie Blackmore crowd versus the Steve Morse crowd. The Rolling Stones has their fan polarizations between the Brian Jones era and post Brian Jones era. Pink Floyd has their Syd Barrett versus Roger Waters versus David Gilmore. Black Sabbath has Ozzy versus Dio versus (fill in the other lead singers name blank).Van Halen's David Lee Roth versus Sammy Hagar. Fleetwood Mac Peter Green era versus Stevie Nicks era.
Then there are partisans for musicians who change style and direction. Dylan acoustic versus electric. Miles Davis' Quintet versus his electric era versus his later years...
I'm sure the list is endless, but I would say that for the longevity of a band and musicians, change is necessary. You either embrace it or you don't. If you don't embrace it, many times you miss out on the bigger picture.
There are of course, examples of changes that aren't necessarily great. Van Halen comes to mind for me as one. I never was a huge fan of their music, but respect them for what they do. Having grown up in the MTV era, Van Halen's polarizations were quite public.
Back to the Dead though, my tenure started in '84. For whatever reason, their earlier works didn't totally grab me, but at the same time, that was before I was aware of their tape trading community, which indeed turned me onto their older stuff. Most of their commercially released stuff I heard prior too, sounded drastically different than what they sounded like live, which to my ears at the time seemed inferior. I've grown to love and respect all era's of the Grateful Dead, though the Brent era will always be near and dear to me, and there is still so much from that era to explore that hasn't been officially tapped into yet.
I hope they do as well. I know I have heard for a while they are not in the vault. But I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually showed up. 5-18-77 and 5-26 are the other 2 shows. I have heard a good portion of the first Fox and penultimate show on tapers section/jam of the week. Along with some March/April 77' bits. I think Palladium even appeared on Tapers section. It has so many nuggets of music.
Also Pieces of November 1972- 14,15,17,18,19 have showed up on there.
Last week tapers had an awesome Eyes of the World. What A supaaaa jam after a few minutes.
from 2 weeks ago the Sugaree from Miami Fall 89' has a smokin jam a few minutes in as well.
From this week is extra strange. 10-3-76 Bertha and Mama Tried are added to the show and Sugaree is another 5 minutes. The second set is up in the Top 50 all time jams from GD. I think this tour was taped by Healy.
Bring on some more 72' 73' 76' and 77'
Wow you guys are right, I forgot about 29 thanks for clearing that up....surely a well represented month...
Thanks boblopes for explaining that. Sorry I wasn't more clear. Yes, there are 3 shows that are Dick's Picks, Volume 29 containing 2 shows. Along with the rest of what I listed and taking into consideration the shows from the beginning of the month, that leaves 5/18 and 5/26 as the only shows not released or missing from the vault. When Mbarilla stated that he guessed May 77 would be the next tour/month to be released, I was just wondering how that would work since there's virtually nothing left to release except those two shows.
PITB from 10/16 is monstrous
jam from 10/17 is sweet
Dark Star from 10/18...it's Dark Star, yo
10/19: Chris Grand sez it all
get it, get it, get it
Dick's Picks 3 had Pembroke Pines (5/22)
Dick's Picks 29 was a twofer - Fox Theatre (5/19) and Lakeland (5/21).
Now I'm even more confused you say their are 3 dicks picks from May 77?...not sure about that...I have the May box set,Cornell,Boston, buffalo, and New haven...
You stated "Eventually I'm guessing that May 77' will be the next tour or month that gets officially released."
Except for the 3 Palladium shows at the very beginning of the month and the 5th thru the 9th which isn't in the vault, May '77 has already been officially released:
11, 12, 13, 15, 17 were released in the May '77 box last year.
19, 21, 22 make up Dick's Picks
25 is Dave's Picks 1
28 was officially released 5 years ago.
So what were you referring to?
get it...its a must have
this right here might be my favorite sequence of everything i have
"Uncle John's Band" (Hunter, Garcia) – 9:08
"Big Railroad Blues" (Noah Lewis) – 5:02
"Tomorrow Is Forever" (Dolly Parton, Porter Wagoner) – 6:26
"Sugar Magnolia" (Hunter, Weir) – 5:26
"He's Gone" > (Hunter, Garcia) – 13:49
"Caution Jam" > (Grateful Dead) – 4:30
"Drums" > (Kreutzman) – 1:23
"Space" > (Grateful Dead) – 9:14
"Truckin'" > (Hunter, Garcia, Lesh, Weir) – 9:48
"Black Peter" (Hunter, Garcia) – 10:10
"Sunshine Daydream" (Hunter, Weir) – 3:14
after he's gone, they start truckin', then go off into an incredible jam that includes the caution theme, then completely break down into space, then find their way back to truckin again
it's a one-time deal that will leave you slack jawed
GD Movie, I usually sell for 23.50 as I said... most can have it for 25-30 if you're patient.
That ebay rapist, as I call him, is trying to sell it for $159.99...
WHY people buy from him I don't know. He sold some GarciaLive thing the other day for $50... when it's easily available for $13.
People, friends... PLEASE be careful. Don't be hoodwinked or taken advantage of....
avoid the ebay rapist.
I think that soundtrack is fantastic... plus for 5 discs, it's really a deal overall. Be sure not to overpay for it... I don't have any right now, but the last few I've had I sold for 23.50... don't get crazy paying too much more than that.
But really good jams, fun stuff. I love that movie and wore out my VHS copy I had, so the soundtrack has always been special to me.
So, I finally bit the bullet and bought the download version of this release. (It kills me to pay $ and not get any physical product, but I ain't dropping' $240). So a little buyer's remorse as I clicked through my purchase...
But once I started listening, any buyer's remorse went out the frickin' window. I am COMPLETELY blown away by the sound quality - the sound clips online don't do it justice. I have a ton of SDB boots from 89'-'91 that I have always thought to be amazing recordings - they pale in comparison. This mixing job is startling - it just sounds bright and crisp with great bass and beautiful separation, like nothing I have ever heard. Even the midi stuff actually translates well… It's like my stereo turned 3D. This will get heavy rotation…
Listening to Jerry's solo from Ship of Fools 4/1/90 - I'm in heaven. If you need me, I'll be over here blissing out.
I got cancellation message for Dave's Picks V1 from Amazon today as well - was worth a shot...
All 3 Dicks Picks from Sept. 72' are top class.
Oxford 88, I unfortunately received the same Amazon email this morning. I'm still searching for Dave's Pick 1. Scalper prices on that one is outrageous. I have so much GD in the collection I can hold out. Even though May 77 is one of the best era's. Eventually I'm guessing that May 77' will be the next tour or month that gets officially released.
Anybody up for a trade. I am looking for Dave's 1, Road Trips Denver 73, and the majority of Bonus Disc from Road Trips series, also Academy of Music 72' Bonus Disc.
I have Warlocks 89' box Sealed and Garcia White vinyl from April 2014 RSD.
Confirming what we already know... The inadvertent listing of the first four Dave's on Amazon at retail pricing a while ago has played all the way out. I just got the same message for all four:
We're unable to fulfill your order for the items listed below because they aren't available from the supplier any longer. As a result, we cancelled them from your order and your original payment method wasn't charged.
Dave's Picks Volume 4
We're sorry for any inconvenience or disappointment this may have caused.
Thank you for shopping at Amazon.com.
Chalk this up to "it never hurts to try"
.....thanks for the input. Dig the vibes here.....
// Everybody's playin' in the Heart of Gold Band //
Direwolf, absolutely listen to One Man on this - the GD Movie sdtrck is not only one of their best releases, it is a bargain, easily found for 25-30 bucks. Five discs of insanely great '74 jams. I think it sounds great - the multitrack takes care of a lot of the vocal issues.
Bear was really upset at the recording initially, and Steal Your Money doesn't sound so great, but the Soundtrack does.
Spinning the RSD 2014 (Hampton 79) release tonight. Really do enjoy this show and the sound.... just wish the quality control on the vinyl had been better. I quite enjoy those first shows with Brent in May 79 (I need to listen to 5/7/79 again, I recall being quite taken with that one at one time).
In honor of 2014-09-17 I am going to spin my newly purchased DiP#23 discs. I believe these discs sat brand new, wrapped and untouched. Like a fine wine :) I have released copies of 9/17 and 9/21 ... I suspect 9/27 will need to be sourced as well.