Grateful Dead

Dave's Picks Volume 11: Century II Convention Hall, Wichita, KS 11/17/72 - SOLD OUT

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Jack Straw may have been from Wichita but the Grateful Dead only played there once and what a show it was! Whether the band knew they would only have one shot to show the "Doo-dah" city what they were all about, we just don't know but they sure did nail it. Dick's Picks producer Dick Latvala initially considered this one for release and with a single listen, you'll know why. From the epic 90-minute 16-song first set to super tight ditties from the massively popular Workingman's Dead and American Beauty albums and newly minted Europe '72 classics like "He's Gone," "Brown-Eyed Women," and "China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider," you're bound to agree. Lest we forget to mention the great sounding tapes and excellent acoustics at the Century II Convention Hall. (Oh, and as a little bonus, we've thrown in the best of the bunch from Oklahoma City 11/15/72!)

Mastered in HDCD from the original soundboard recordings produced by Owsley Stanley, with fresh artwork from Tony Millionaire (and his little dog too), and liner notes from original handbill artist and then first-time Grateful Dead concert attendee Gary Houston, this sonic adventure is one to cross off the old bucket list.

Pre-order it here while you can!

Listening Party

11/17/72, Wichita, KS


"Bird Song"

"He's Gone"

"Box Of Rain"

David Lemieux Volume 11 Seaside Chat

Product Details

3 Disc set
Limited to 14,000 individually numbered copies
Mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman
Digipak made of 100% recycled and PCW materials
Release Date: August 1, 2014

A note about the cover: The Black and White cover is the only cover made for this release. The color version is the booklet cover. The Black and White version wasn't revealed till Street Date which is why the booklet color version was the only version shown at the time of Pre-order.

Tracklist

Century II Convention Hall, Wichita, KS (11/17/72)

Disc 1
1. Promised Land [3:12]
2. Sugaree [7:01]
3. Me And My Uncle [3:11]
4. Tennennee Jed [7:47]
5. Black-Throated Wind [7:04]
6. Bird Song [11:01]
7. Jack Straw [5:00]
8. Box Of Rain [4:54]
9. Don’t Ease Me In [3:16]
10. Beat It On Down The Line [3:26]
11. Brown-Eyed Women [5:11]
12. Big River [4:39]
13. China Cat Sunflower> [7:10]
14. I Know You Rider [4:46]

Disc 2
1. Around And Around [3:55]
2. Casey Jones [6:33]
3. Cumberland Blues [6:31]
4. El Paso [4:17]
5. He’s Gone [14:12]
6. Truckin’> [9:57]
7. The Other One> [19:49]
8. Brokedown Palace [5:57]
9. Sugar Magnolia [8:24]

Disc 3
1. Uncle John’s Band [8:07]
2. Johnny B. Goode [3:57]
Live In Oklahoma City (11/15/72)
3. Playing In The Band [30:57]
4. Wharf Rat [10:38]
5. Not Fade Away> [7:47]
6. Goin’ Down The Road Feeling Bad> [7:12]
7. Not Fade Away

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Re: edit ll >

Cant't help w/ the SP box. But I must say thank you for the great Dick's read - some say it was over after that show. I don't know.
Glad to see the ABB is Hittin' the Note for you. Your post was a day after Duane's 68th - que coincidencia! Be prepared for mild astonishment when you hear the "throw away" 2nd disc from Bros. and Sistas Deluxe.
All those savory cervezas you mentioned sound great - I used to have a serious jones for Molson Ice.
I'd be dropped six miles from home and run back to a few I'd placed in the freezer - whoa! Endolphins and 8%!!!
As for the running toggery, I keep it in my back seat (eew, right!). In Summer the pile is manageable, but in Winter it's out of control. I've got tights and pants but I prefer shorts - if it's 35 and and calm I'm clad in shorts and a couple tech shirts, but if it's below 35 and blustery more and more I'm taking it as an opportunity to take a powder - I really need go where the winds don't blow so strange - and stay there!
Presently immersing myself in the recent Charlie Miller, 12/05/71, Felt Forum - it's by far the most complete and sonically accurate version yet posted. Dead-solid-pitch-perfect, too! Nos vemos.

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Bravo Dedic8td...

...as in life, consistent and relentless forward progress on the trails will yield remarkable rewards. Yet, this psychotic weather has precipitated running wardrobe chaos, as I now set aside the tights, coldgear mock-T, neck gaiter, fleece headband, and gloves for a short sleeved T and shorts! This, however, is NOT a complaint! :)

Beer. (a moment of reverential silence)

Given that I share a border with the 20th century (I'm not prepared to acknowledge millennial-grade progress in this region just yet!), residing in a dry county isn't such a terrible inconvenience.

Moreover, while attending conference this week to obtain the CLE credits required for annual bar recertification, I loaded up the jeep with a geographically and flavourfully diverse array of malted nectar, including Sam Adams Cold Snap, Winter Lager, and White Christmas, as well as Leinie Cherry Doppelschwarz, Molson Golden, and Rolling Rock Amber. A yummy holiday stock, especially as I don't anticipate traveling through the New Year.

Coincidentally, after a couple weeks immersed in my most recent musical discovery, ABB, I pulled The Eleven and really enjoyed reacquaintance with that nomadic PITB from OKC, for which I was in the just-exactly-perfect frame of mind after labyrinthine travels through 15-45 minute workouts of Elizabeth Reed, Whipping Post, Dreams, You Don't Love Me, and Mountain Jam from the staggeringly good shows on FE/71, Ludlow's Garage, SUNY 71, and Atlanta Pop/70...I just ordered Bros/Sisters deluxe this morning for that 73 show (I'm taking leap of faith into the post-Duane and Oakley incarnation).

Okay, I've run out of steam...but can't resist propagating Skobod's latest Dick Didn't Pick (DDP) selection from over on the Ark: 1/22/78 ... I've made one complete pass of the Miller transfer and plan to revisit on the ipod during wkend runs...just check out what Dick had to say (!) (it really is hoary beast - and, yes, perhaps the definitive Close Encounters riff from a few early 78 shows during which JG toyed with that theme):

Edit: the embed code failed, so cutnpaste this link -

http://imgur.com/6eVqrEx

/K

Edit II: BDD (or anyone), I'd consider trading my sealed RT 3:3 for a new, NM, or possibly VG+ copy of the Sex Pistols 3 cd box (the one with the Union Jack on the front)...would love to know if anyone has it!/K

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Yes, yes

Glorious beer, indeed! I'm definitely one of those drinkers who has a running problem. Cheers!

What a great date it is for Dave's Picks. In addition to this 'ere 72, Wichita show, we have the incredible Pauley Pav from '73. The improvement in quality from my old tape to this (it's on now) - what does Salieri say after he sees the expression on Constance's face after she samples the Nipples of Venus? - work of art is some kinda sweet! Don't ya think this is a top ten from'73? Easy.

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Trade rare Dave's picks for rate road trips

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Trade rare Dave's picks for rare road trips......anyone??
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Trade rare Dave's picks for road trips
Hey y'all in deadland.......I'm looking to complete my road trips collection and as you know Denver 73, the 76 show and the really rare 1970 acoustic/electric set show is sold out.....I have extra copies of Dave's picks 2 Dillion stadium 74 epic show and Dave's picks 3 Chicago 71 that I'm willing to trade to anyone who wants to part with those 3 road trips.....my copies are not sealed but are mint condition all the way......only opened to upload and then back to the shelf etc........pm me if anyone has interest.......and thank god for the good ole grateful dead

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hmmmm...

http://liveforlivemusic.com/news/weir-biographer-shares-lengthy-status-about-dead-reunion-rumors/

Dead8: I'll have your s/n down to a mere consonant soon...glad you enjoyed it!; the trail community is so very much more relaxed than those high intensity road races. Glad you had fun! And beer! Glorious beer!/K

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What have I to report?

It was a hoot! To be honest I wasn't racing/on the clock - I just thoroughly enjoyed it! Not a lot of room to pass, of course, so I laid back and zipped and skipped only when necessary. We started a good 15 minutes late because the shuttle was still bringin' 'em in. (200 cap) It was well-chilly at the start, but once we got going it was fine. In fact, 'bout half-way thru the sun came out and it was real comfortable. There was an assortment of craft beers and pulled-pork sandwiches, along with the usual post-race fare. They had a guitar player who I asked if he knew Dead, and he said, yes, but that he'd played some earlier - then I felt really slow. The hi-light though was meeting my daughter later for Lucinda Williams - it had its moments, but we had a blast!!!

I'm listening to that classic Horace Silver & the Jazz Messengers Blue Note disc with Hank Mobley, Art Blakey, etc., from this date, 1954. To say this sounds sweet is an absurd understatement.
Later, Hank Mobley, "Roll Call". Tomorrow night will be RT, Ft. worth, '71.

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Kate, torrents

"WJ & D, courtesy Simon and other veterans, I became pretty well acquainted with etree and bitorrenting early this summer. If I can help seed, wetransfer, or dropbox a show I certainly will..."

Thanks Kate, if you or anyone else has that 1216 source for 3/24/73 I'm looking for I would much appreciate a seed.

I think I was one of those "others" btw, that helped you with torrents and converting flacs, etc. I remember a long discussion on file types. Traders Little Helper, WAVS vs MP3s, CBR vs VBR, etc. I actually seeded your favorite '74 show for you, 9/18.

Dang lawyers, sure they're your best friends when they want you to call their case, but otherwise they act like they never met you before ;)

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Sure you did, Kate

I think you're confusing '73 with '74 again. You're confusing me, anyway ;)

Waaaay down below on Oct 30 in your post titled "Ok Mr J" it (3/24) was your number one pick for '73, a "MUST, MUST, MUST hear..." you said, though you weren't speaking to me. MJS replied, "sounds like I'll be sampling 3/24/73 on the Archive tonight."

Then on Nov 9 in your post titled "The boyz of Deadnet" in a reply to me about 6/10/73, you said it (6/10) didn't make your top 10 for that year, and that "For the record, that list would read something like (chronologically): 2/24 (DaP 13!!!!!!!!)..."

But that was your list for '74, not '73, wasn't it? But that's OK, time traveling the way we do gets confusing sometimes ;)

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D, WJ, HB, DEDIC8TD

I'm pleased that you discovered a great new show, but I don't recall recommending 3/24; it may well be that you misread 2/24, which headlined my chronological list of '73 faves (?)

WJ & D, courtesy Simon and other veterans, I became pretty well acquainted with etree and bitorrenting early this summer. If I can help seed, wetransfer, or dropbox a show I certainly will...also, Ian and others have offered the same - just ask.

HB: I absolutely love those NRPS/GD shows, especially the two-fers where each band performed alternating first(early)/second(late) sets! Of the few I've discovered, my star-spangled favourite is 10/31/70 (I have a great .wav SBD if anyone's interested).

DEDIC8TD: I need a race report! I've been taking advantage of encroaching winter and daylight savings to incorporate "night" runs into my schedule...by hitting the trailhead around 6, I need the headlamp by 6:20ish - puppy loves it and I enjoy the solitude of running the dark with the benefit of finishing before 8:30, which is generally before the apex predators emerge - most significantly, mountain cats, of which we have a considerable variety (bobcats, lions, and even a black panther caught on park security video {{{shiver}}})./K

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That's OK, Wjonjd

Thanks for trying. Honestly, I prefer to get it in lossless format anyway, and the other SBD source I grabbed is good enough for now. But I do appreciate your efforts.

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Dantian

Hey,

I gave up on seeding my own MP3 version - couldn't get it to work properly when I used a tester to see if it could get to my "seeded" files.

So, let me know if you want to use dropbox to transfer the files.

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3/24/73 Torrent

Hi Dantian,

Ok, I think I can get this, but it still needs to show up on Torrent sites. I checked, and I think I can see how to add a new "source" which would be the MP3 version of the original source.

However, it appears that all the sites that used for Grateful Dead torrents are pretty specifically for lossless versions of the shows (I can understand that).

So, without "listing" it anywhere, it should be currently available as gd73-03-24.sbd.hamilton.1216MP3.sbeok.shnf (notice the MP3 in the name).

However, if you can't get to it, I have dropbox. I could probably get it to you that way.

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Wjonjd, I'm a torrent newb myself

I know about as much as you. After I download a torrent, it becomes available for seeding to others in my client. If I transfer the folder from my portable HDD to a second computer, I pretend to download it on that computer (i.e. click download link) and the client then checks the files for accuracy against the checksums, and then makes it available for seeding as if I had downloaded it.

Since your copy is MP3 and not the SHN version the torrent name indicates, I would think the different checksums would be fouling it up as you said.

I never tried to create my own torrent, but there should be such a function in your client. With uTorrent, it is under "File > Create New Torrent." I don't know what it is on your client, but if you do make one I agree you should give it a different name and probably include "MP3" somewhere in the name.

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Dantian - I'm a total newb at torrent

Hi Dantian - just so you know, I got this version by capturing the stream, so it's mp3, not lossless.
Maybe I need to give it a different name, as it will have different checksums than the one that looks like is a torrent seed already which appears to be much larger (lossless).

I'm using BitComet. Assume I have the show as 31 separate files in their own folder under my main torrent folder.

Can you tell me what I need to do to make this available to others. I know that my firewalls and port forwarding are good (I get a green light from the app concerning the listening port. Right now the folder is named like I mentioned before, which may not be a good idea. Maybe it needs a different name?

I have only downloaded using torrent before. I know that things I download become available to others. But since I didn't download this using torrent, I don't know what I need to do to make it available.

Can you give any guidance? And a way for me to check that it's truly available after I make any changes?

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Thanks wjonjd!

But only 15.8% of it seems to be available. Did you also add it to your torrent list in your client? Just putting it in the folder won't add it to your client. If you click on the link as if to download it, your client will check it and automatically add it to your torrents. Forgive me if you know this already.

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The Circuit is Now Complete...

Driving down Broad Street one cold day in March of '73, a piece of metal came bouncing end-over-end into my windshield, making a loud "POP!" that startled the living daylights out of me, causing me to veer into a light pole. Upon closer examination of the piece of metal embedded in my windshield, I realized it wasn't just a piece of brass plumbing, it was some sort of smoking device, no doubt discarded by one of those hippie Grateful Dead fans leaving the show that night....

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Dantian 1216 3/24/73

@Dantian -
I have logged in and placed the 1216 version in my torrent folder - it is called gd73-03-24.sbd.hamilton.1216.sbeok.shnf

Please let me know if it's not showing up. :)

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Kate, 3/24/73

I've sampled a few of the 1st set tracks, very nice, starting the He's Gone sequence now...sounds like a real winner of a show. I should have know, geez, did they ever play a bad show at The Spectrum.

BTW, which source do you think is better, the 1216 or the 25508? The 1216 sounds a little brighter to me, could just be my imagination, but only the 25508 is being seeded atm.

Edit: I'm deep in the Jam section now, and I gotta say this show is a great find, Kate, thanks very much for the tip! See, this is exactly why I don't just go show by show on my own, because I don't want to know everything yet, I'd rather wait for such hidden gems to be revealed in due time, lest these wonderful surprises are all used up, and then what would I do.

I have decided though that the 1216 source is indeed brighter sounding, and even though I have already downloaded the 25508, I will keep trying for the 1216, someone is bound to log on with it at some point.

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3/24/73

Following one of Kate's comments earlier in this thread, I decided to check out the 3/24/73 show she mentioned, since I was not familiar with it. So I'm on the archive poking around for the best source, and one of the comments caught my eye. I thought it was pretty funny, and real, and reminded me of the magic of a Dead show:

"Reviewer: lp357
"Subject: Amusing Memory

"Ahhh the Spectrum we loathed the acoustics but the band always put on great shows throughout the seventies. I don't know how some people remember minute details from a 40+ year old show. I remember walking out exhausted and drained a feeling of contented euphoria a common side affect of a 70"s show. A 2ND LISTEN confirms those feelings. Anyway here is my amusing memory-Their we're 4 or 5 of us I loaded my treasured brass pipe(an antique of 2 years, very old for those days) I passed the duchie to the left but it never came back. Upon investigation my magnanimous unthinking friend passed it on to left. Anyway after a few choice words I pulled out my zigzags and went back to enjoying the show. As God is my witness 4 hours latter I was tapped on the right shoulder their was my pipe fully loaded no less. If you know the Spectrum you could not conceive of the impossibility of my bowl making a circuit of the entire arena-ONLY AT A GRATEFUL DEAD SHOW!
P.S.Left the pipe on the roof of the car in the parking lot after the show it slid off somewhere on Broad street all that's left are the memories."

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11/11

The planets aligned on this day in '67 and '73...while the latter is legendary and, of course, captured in the magnificent Winterland box (2nd set pyrotechnics with a staggering 50-minute DS>MLB Jam>Eyes sequence), the former is preserved by a SBD that I rate B/B+ though I fear many will find unpalatable given changing sonic expectations precipitated by the wonderfully engineered commercial catalogue.

Nonetheless, as I type, NPC has just wound to a close on the Bell SBD and - as many have reiterated the desire for a '67 release - I strongly recommend investment in the nearly 60 minutes required for listening should this pivotal period be of personal interest (listening - and certainly with the benefit of hindsight regarding the jammy, fuzzy, feedbacky, acidy sounds of 68 to come - this show underscores the notion that the band had found its idiom heading into the so-called "primal" years).

http://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1967/11/11/turn-on-your-lovelight

P.S.: Pig really can rock the organ! (double entre NOT intended)/K

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Finally figured it out....

Kate,

I'm fairly new here and didn't figure out how the whole IM thing works until several days after you posted the 12/31/78 comment to me. And then of course, I couldn't figure out that you meant the DP 11 blog in the comment you made to me. And so today, I've finally caught up and....

Yes, I think the ousting of Keith and Donna represents that point in a band's existence when they stopped being a band on a developmental arc, and became a NEW BAND. I'm sure folks will disagree but, it happens to a lot of bands. For the Who, it was after Keith Moon died; for the Stones, it was sometime after Tattoo You (or possibly earlier, after Mick Taylor left); for Genesis it was after Peter Gabriel left; for Yes, it was after they broke up in '78.

And for the Dead, it was after Keith & Donna left. In my mind, they joined the Dead as the Dead were evolving, and the band continued to evolve during their tenure; but their departure also meant the departure of a sound that was a core component of their native soul, a sound that was never recaptured (it couldn't be, they were too integral in its making, too deeply embedded). This is not to say that there was nothing GOOD after they left - it just wasn't a continuation of the original arc - it was a new beginning (albeit one with old roots).

For Jefferson Airplane, it was after Grace Slick left; for KISS, it was after Ace Frehley left; for Van Halen, it was after David Lee Roth left, for AC/DC it was after For Those About to Rock; for Rush it was after the fricken producer left in '82 (can you believe that?); and you can me Ned, and you can call me Jed, and you call me Fred......

P.S. - I walk 2 hours a night, and boy is it a great time to space my face with some Dead! In fact, I picked up a 64GB card for my phone so that I can fit ALL of my 100 shows on one unit...

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Fair enough, Kate

If you've spent all that time with it, I'm not gonna twist your arm ;)

To me that show may not get as deep as other '73 shows, but sometimes that's exactly what I'm looking for; the majesty of the '73 sound but in a slightly more laid back way.

By the way, that's your list for '74 not '73, I am guessing. I'm really looking forward to DaP13 too.

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I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE

that you guys have kept The Eleven alive! Incidentally, Dude (name unknown) posted re: his tribute band on a Forum thread...and while, first, I admire the HECK outta any group that can get together and pay homage to the GOGD with an even modestly presentable rendition of their catalogue, I really DIG, DIG, DIG the bubbly sounds of this keyboardist, who appears somewhat older than the rest (I'm referring to the BEW vid).

https://www.facebook.com/sunshinedaydreamdeadband

Great work guys....really! Wish I were closer than 13+ hours away or I'd be a groupie! :)))) /K

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The boyz of deadnet...

...you guys really are a collective class act. As an Econ major who went the (wayward) way of law, I empathize entirely with hbob; yet, if your dedication (no "a") to classwork has yielded a disposable income capable of indulging in the latest releases without budgetary qualms, then 'you win'.

And honestly, Dantian, though I appreciate your concerned remonstration, I've been living with the Miller SBD of 6/10 on my ipod since shortly after the 4th of July (read: repeated, isolated listens during trail runs); so, don't fret over the inability to embed a vid! Indeed, I don't dispute the show's remarkable highlights, including Eyes, and - even more to my ken - that Dickey Betts' inspired romp from NFA>GDTRFB>NFA reprise.

Yet, 6/10 doesn't even make my top X for the year - though that's an admittedly tough club to crack amongst a battery of standout annual shows rivaled only in depth by similarly legendary years like '70, '72, and '77.

For the record, that list would read something like (chronologically): 2/24 (DaP 13!!!!!!!!); 5/19 (PERSONAL FAVOURITE #2); 6/16; 6/18; 6/20; 6/23; 6/26; 6/28; 7/19; and - PERSONAL FAVOURITE NUMERO UNO - 9/18./peace, K :)

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Kate

Don't know if you'll see this response a week later, but I felt compelled to chime in on the '73 discussion, specifically about 6/10.

I agree with you about the over-rating of 9/3/77, but I urge you to give 6/10/73 another chance to dazzle you. If nothing else, just listen to that 6/10 Eyes again. One of my favorite Eyes, just let it grow on you and I think it may help redeem the show, um, in your eyes.

P.S. - I noticed that I can't embed links anymore either, I think they may have done away with that ability on these boards.

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1973

Hello Kate & JS. Your full on discussion of '73 brought me back there.

My first ever Dead show at the Buffalo Aud.3/31. NRPS opened. We jumped over the hockey wall and were Dead center, about 10 rows back. That was as close as I ever would get, but who knew? The boys returned on 9/26 with the horns to do full justice to Wake. But get this, I passed on that one and have been kicking myself for the past 41 years! The thing was, I had a big Economics exam the next day, and for once in my life I did the "responsible" thing. Actually got a B on the exam. My friends who went to the show and blew off the exam all flunked it the next day, but who had the better time was never in doubt! Lol. Too funny & sad at the same time.

Rock on

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Kate

Here's the dope on my run this weekend. The organizers have offered three distances: 10k, 20k & 30k. If you want to do more than 10k, you have to repeat the loop. It's difficult terrain in a state park and the conditions are looking kinda mean - about 30 at game time with 17mph winds. But the mollifier is I-Tap will be there! Another thing to look forward to post-run is I'm going to Lucinda Williams comp. I really like her new release; she's assembled quite a team of players and I'm eager to know who of them she's bringing with her. Well, it's about ten days 'til the anniversary of Dave's 11, but in the mean time I've got #12 goin'.

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5/19/74 redux

Okay, the current of discussion moves swiftly across all primary threads in the Store's "music" section; however, I would be remiss if I didn't call further attention to this magnificent show alluded by Mr.J a couple days ago with a bit of brief follow-up commentary by RD.

This smashing gem contains a segment of musical gestalt, or transcendent group play, that epitomizes the notion of instrumental dialogue...start with a phenomenal rendition of Truckin', which, at the 6:30 mark, launches into a stellar jam that apparently more discernible minds have segmented into a subsequent unlabeled 6+ minute "Jam" as well as a closing 3+ minute "Mind Left Body Jam" that bottoms out into "NFA" and - moving at Clif Notes speed here - from which Bobby pulls the band into "GDTRFB" (listen to his distinct clarion call before the demarcation point b/w songs) which Jerry immediately picks up at about the 5 second mark on the latter...just lovely.

AND, since you're already there, just listen to the glorious manner in which all members of the band slowly decompress to a brief pause - their first in about 35 minutes! - before kick-starting into a rockin' OMSN.

Edit: Note that by OMSN Keith has switched from the bubbly electric organ during the Truckin' jams back to the stand-up baby grand!

Now, back to your regularly scheduled dialogue! :) /K

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Fun!

I've phished around and watched quite a few of the homemade parking lot and stadium tapes...in this case, though, I lovE, loVE, lOVE, LOVE that instrumental CR&S!! In fact, I was up and doing the sun grope around my chair behind the desk...nice!/K

Edit: The cut-n-pasted Embed code for the video does not make it through to final posting...odd, it's the first time I've ever been precluded from embedding a utube vid here (?!)/K

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Kate, go to...

You tube and search Grateful Dead Santa Barbara 1973. It's a four minute video snapshot of a Dead show 1973.

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Master Po,

trust me, pathological pursuit of the Dead is symptomatic of my fervid indulgence in personal passions! /Grasshopper

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Yeah but...

YOU'RE young NOW. Enjoy.

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"Was at 11/14/73"...

...madness, sheer madness. I was born 40 years too late: '45 woulda definitely been a better fit! Let's see, 25 at '70, by which time I would've compressed college and law school into 5 yrs with night classes, had a shingle out, and begun structuring case processing and court appearances around GOGD tours! Not to mention seeing Floyd; Canned Heat; 10 Yrs After; The Kinks; Doors; Tull; ABB; CSN/Y; Hendrix; Cream; Heep; Bowie; Stones; the Airplane; yadda yadda yadda all during prime years.

Well, I've still got Kanye-I-want-every-crippled-fan-on-their-feet-worshipping-me-West {{{sigh}}}./K

P.S.: Do you have pics from the glory days that could be scanned and viewed?

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Hey Kate

Was at 11/14/73 and have very clear memories of the event. The Sports Arena was cut to 2/3 size due to poor ticket sales. Festival seating and plenty of room on the floor. Very rowdy crowd with lots of Angels. Crowd got really unruly during the set break. Dead came out for second set with Truckin at twice the volume of the first set and just shut the assholes up. Killer second set. Seem to remember some Phil bombs you could feel. Just a great show. The kind that everyone walks out of slowly, smiling, in love with all your fellow heads.

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Ships on November 12th!

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sounds like I'll be sampling

sounds like I'll be sampling 3/24/73 on the Archive tonight.

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Okay, Mr. J,

let me speak heretically: 6/10, much like 9/3/77 (for which I just spent $50) is a show whose mythological proportions apparently distort reasonable analysis or recognition as a journeyman (okay, maybe Good+) performance, though even that characterization for either '73 or '77 elevates it above similarly classed concerts from most other years (at least post '73-'74, that is).

Otherwise, according to the lil' black book, my remaining ELITE shows outside commercial releases are:

1. 3/24/73 (you MUST, MUST, MUST hear the delayed orgasmic tease of Dark Star throughout the post-Truckin' Spanish Jam > Space sequence)

2. 6/22 (Duh.)

3. 9/11 (Yer Dead on! Some cool cats on horns (no phreakin' MIDI here) for the opening 2nd set run of Sing Your Blues Away>WRS...then check out how Phil takes the helm after a brief foray into DS, eventually leading the band into Dew)

4. 11/14 (Ya nailed it again, J.S.! My Goodness, what is Phil drinkin', smokin', snortin', or injecting during the Fall tours?)

5. 12/6 (5 songs were released on the bonus disc attendant to what I consider the greatest RT released, 4.3 (okay, on any given day I may also say 5/15/70 (RT 3.3)), but this thing is a BEAST...a 100 percenter...a show by which to convert the uninitiated...again, listen to Phil's role as melodic creator, especially during a MONSTROUS 44 minute DS into a transcendant quarter hour Eyes...go ahead, drink at the altar of the Divine: http://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1973/12/6-1/dark-star ).

6. 12/18 (We commune again; better than the awesome performance tabbed by Dick as DiP #1? Maybe...or maybe a close second...either way...can you tell where the band's headed in '74 (hint: jazzy-fresh!).

Of course, I haven't nearly listened to everything, so fill me in on what I've missed!/K

Edit: As I've been typing and browsing, I've been listening to that 12/6 DS...my goodness, check this thing out and tell me whether the keyboard has ever played such a pivotal role in the song's development - heavens, is Godchaux a zen master or what?/K

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Kate,

Love the idea:

73?

I'll start:

We've got the huge releases so far in 2/26, 2/28, 10/19, 11/10, 11/11, 11/17, 11/21, 11/30, and 12/2. Plus we have the meat of 12/6 and 12/19 out there. Lesser already released shows include 11/9 and 12/10, plus the bonus disc of 12/4 and the 11/20 filler.

Now for what is left...I know Fall '73 far better than the Spring/Summer tours, but here goes.

Spring: 2/9/73 (lots of newly debuted material), 2/15/73, 3/15/73, 3/16/73, 3/26/73, 3/28/73, 5/26/73 (not in the Vault), and 6/10/73.

Summer: 6/22/73, 7/28/73 (mainly for historic reasons), 8/1/73, and 9/11/73

Fall: 10/25/73, 10/29/73, 10/30/73, 11/14/73, 11/23/73, 12/1/73, 12/8/73, and 12/18/73.

It's really hard to omit ANY of the Fall'73 tour. It doesn't have the sound quality or the Pigpen material of the E'72 tour, and the Dark Stars may be just a tad more intense across the Atlantic, but the addition of all the Wake of the Flood material really allowed this band to take off. Greatest tour ever.

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Mr. J

Of course you're correct...it's basically superfluous subjective drivel without any parameters, but, even if I attempted to establish some concrete metrics, the whole thing would still end up being a largely subjective conclusion. Art, eh?

It's just that while listening this week (and then re-listening for like the dozenth++ time), it occurred to me that, for such a relatively late show, the band performed along a spectrum of excellence which hearkened at various points to the psychedelic explorations of the acid washed period, the earthier sounds of 70, the progressively hard rockin' 71-73 era, jazzy 74, and even Spring 77's lovely surgical precision...also, the Dead's energy level is astronomical, which, in no small part has a lot to do with a highly emotive audience and an historic occasion. Though certainly the last isn't a prerequisite for greatness.

Anyway, all this made me realize that it stands among BIG favorites that remain en vogue - in my library at least - like those I listed.

Incidentally, I'd be interested to hear anyone's list of just about anything: top shows all-time, top shows by a couple favourite years...Mr. J, I loved your 74 list over on DaP 2015, which coincided almost directly with mine./peace, K

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Kate,

It all depends on your definition of epic, I suppose, but 12/31/78 is as good a stopping point as any.

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bar-hopping

I must say, it's pretty cool having so many "primary" threads with so much positive chat to move between (Almanac, DaP2015, #11, #12).../k

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Deadicated

Fantastic about the trails...it's an epiphany! Hitting the dirt; sloooooowing down; exteeeeeeending mileage; shifting to a forefoot strike; and switching to minimalist or near-zero drop shoes revolutionized my approach to running.

Good lord, I could talk lubricant, hydration systems, wicking wear, socks, shoes, nutrition, cold weather gear, predator defense, night running equipment, etc. for hours! :))))

I'd love to hear more about the upcoming event, as well as your results. I started running ultras about 4 years ago, though the AT tears I've previously referenced sidelined me 17 of the last 20 mos. I miss the community feeling at the trail races so very much - it's quite different from the hypercompetitiveness of road events. Thanks for chiming in!/K

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Hey Kate

I like running. Nothin' fancy attire-wise. Although I do like tech-shirts and New Balance shoes. I wear old , comfortable soccer shorts that keep me smilin'. I've been running 1/2 marathons for 'bout ten years, with a couple marathons thrown in to tell me they're not for me. But my latest desire is trail running. I have pugs so I run solo, solo. I'm doing my first trail "race" in two weeks - can't wait! I'm slow, too. Used to do 8:30's comfortably in my halves - but they're long since gone. Now I piddle about, but am finally back in respectable shape after last years' brutal Winter. And, yeah, these days are just so nice to simply be out gettin' the endolphins goin'. I don't listen to music during my runs, but always have before and after sessions. Let me tell you, the ABB Fillmore "Box" is one piece of work! I've listened to mine once and will listen again anniversary time.

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Disagree 12-31-78 definitely not last epic show

Check out 10 days later 1-10-79 from Nassau. Pretty awesome Dark Star.

A year and a half down the road Radio City and Warfield runs. Pretty epic.

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double post

double post

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I see the usual people involved in the usual inanity over on the DaP2015 thread, HOWEVER, KeithFanw/RushReference, your post represents one of those spooky intersections b/w Heads that - when it happens on rare occasion - sends chills up my spine.

For the last 3-4 months I've been heavily sampling 2 years, largely from SBDs that have have not been commercially released: '74 and '78; and, during the last week, have been listening to the Closing of Winterland repeatedly, during which, a nascent notion began to form in my mind - specifically, that the 12/31/78 show represents the last EPIC performance in the band's history.

This, of course, precipitated thought as to what constitutes "epic" (as opposed to "good" or even "great"), and, for my taste, I've concluded that it involves either the suggestion or performance of that unbridled, youthful, exploratory energy and creativity native to the band's (almost) uniformly acknowledged peak period b/w '68 and '72/3.

Anyway, for me at least, this short list encompasses renowned shows like 2/14/68; 3/1/69; 2/13/70; and 8/27/72. Yup. I think good argument can be made that, for absolutely gigantic shows from opener to close (yeah, I know about that atrocious "Hey Jude" encore from 3/1), Closing/Winterland represented the end of the era of greatness.

Which isn't to say that I don't absolutely adore the peaks of '79-'82 as well as the fun, shiny, pop sounds of Fall '89 - Spring '90; but, really, the gargantuan genius that reared it Hydra head early on and ensured a historical relevenace that has us chatting fervently and buying out serial releases almost 20 years after the band disbanded was loooooong gone by Reagan's first term./K

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Absolutely phenomenal days here in the Appy Mtns...70+ degrees, hazy golden sunshine, no clouds in a denim-washed azure sky...any other Deadhead runners out there peaking mileage with the commodious Fall conditions? If so, what're ya listening to? What are you running in? Lube? Shoes? Shorts? Top? Fuel? Hydration (belt, pack, what?)

I run strictly solo and only on trails in the local state and national parks, with my 3 y.o. terrier mix by my side as an early warning against bears, mtn. cats, coyotes and even a large black panther that's been caught on park security video. I've got about a 110 miles on a pair of NB Leadville, which means these tanks are finally starting to feel comfortable, though I only rotate them in every 3 days or so b/w my standard NB 630 minimalist go-to shoe.

My maintenance runs are short, about 6 mi. avg. daily, with a long of 10 on Sat. (I'm in slow recovery from a surgically repaired tear to my L. Achilles). I lube with SportSlick, run in wicking shorts & top from UA, and - at this point - carry only H2O with a couple Clif shotbloks (caffeinated) or a pack of GU Roctane (various flavors).

Today, I listened to Tull, Isle of Wight 70, with some AWESOME post-reunion Dinosaur Jr. (Murph and Mascis!!!), specifically "Farm", to fill out the end of a 7-miler (yes, I'm that slow)./K

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"limited time" downloads of all Fillmore West shows at Concert Vault for $1; here's a link to the CV GD catalogue, hit an FW show and check it out!/k

http://www.concertvault.com/search.html?t=grateful%20dead&tb=0

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DOH!

Van Persie at Old Trafford {{sigh}}...thought The Blues had it...

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Okay, weird coincidence #3 (refresher: first, Holmes and the Lyceum, then ping pong and the Alexandra Palace): though I was aiming to turn in at 10 last night in prep for an early pool workout and then Saturday's long trail run on a glorious Fall day, I did not hit the sheets until just after midnight due to having spent hours sampling Cream's catalogue.

I had no knowledge of Bruce's passing until this afternoon and my exploration was inspired by wholly unrelated events; most prominently, having finally fallen prey to WilliamTell's proselytizing over on the Ark in addition to Amazon's referral incident to a recent buying jag that's encompassed quite a bit of the Ten Years After and Canned Heat discographies.

Anyway, late this p.m., I bought the "Those Were The Days" box set...

...And, to fully consummate my bankrupt spending habits, a few hours later I ordered the Allman 71 Fillmore box...will the nearest grown-up please shred my VISA?/K