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Dave's Picks Volume 11: Century II Convention Hall, Wichita, KS 11/17/72 - SOLD OUT

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Jack Straw may have been from Wichita but the Grateful Dead only played there once and what a show it was! Whether the band knew they would only have one shot to show the "Doo-dah" city what they were all about, we just don't know but they sure did nail it. Dick's Picks producer Dick Latvala initially considered this one for release and with a single listen, you'll know why. From the epic 90-minute 16-song first set to super tight ditties from the massively popular Workingman's Dead and American Beauty albums and newly minted Europe '72 classics like "He's Gone," "Brown-Eyed Women," and "China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider," you're bound to agree. Lest we forget to mention the great sounding tapes and excellent acoustics at the Century II Convention Hall. (Oh, and as a little bonus, we've thrown in the best of the bunch from Oklahoma City 11/15/72!)

Mastered in HDCD from the original soundboard recordings produced by Owsley Stanley, with fresh artwork from Tony Millionaire (and his little dog too), and liner notes from original handbill artist and then first-time Grateful Dead concert attendee Gary Houston, this sonic adventure is one to cross off the old bucket list.

Pre-order it here while you can!

Listening Party

11/17/72, Wichita, KS


"Bird Song"

"He's Gone"

"Box Of Rain"

David Lemieux Volume 11 Seaside Chat

Product Details

3 Disc set
Limited to 14,000 individually numbered copies
Mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman
Digipak made of 100% recycled and PCW materials
Release Date: August 1, 2014

A note about the cover: The Black and White cover is the only cover made for this release. The color version is the booklet cover. The Black and White version wasn't revealed till Street Date which is why the booklet color version was the only version shown at the time of Pre-order.

Tracklist

Century II Convention Hall, Wichita, KS (11/17/72)

Disc 1
1. Promised Land [3:12]
2. Sugaree [7:01]
3. Me And My Uncle [3:11]
4. Tennennee Jed [7:47]
5. Black-Throated Wind [7:04]
6. Bird Song [11:01]
7. Jack Straw [5:00]
8. Box Of Rain [4:54]
9. Don’t Ease Me In [3:16]
10. Beat It On Down The Line [3:26]
11. Brown-Eyed Women [5:11]
12. Big River [4:39]
13. China Cat Sunflower> [7:10]
14. I Know You Rider [4:46]

Disc 2
1. Around And Around [3:55]
2. Casey Jones [6:33]
3. Cumberland Blues [6:31]
4. El Paso [4:17]
5. He’s Gone [14:12]
6. Truckin’> [9:57]
7. The Other One> [19:49]
8. Brokedown Palace [5:57]
9. Sugar Magnolia [8:24]

Disc 3
1. Uncle John’s Band [8:07]
2. Johnny B. Goode [3:57]
Live In Oklahoma City (11/15/72)
3. Playing In The Band [30:57]
4. Wharf Rat [10:38]
5. Not Fade Away> [7:47]
6. Goin’ Down The Road Feeling Bad> [7:12]
7. Not Fade Away

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Hey! Have a great trip...

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RIP Rock

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Hey there Kate

I'm so glad for you! Pack warm!
If you would like some cool spots for when you hit Paris I am happy to share some non tourist great spots with you. My favorite city in our galaxy!

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E '14

Okay deadnet EuroHeads, if, over the next 10 days, you see a slightly confused American tourist sporting GD patches on her jeans and shoulder bag (as well as a potentially visible trippin' bear ankle tat), by all means introduce yourself and buy me a beer!

Following short-notice approval of my request for leave this morning, I will be joining a friend who's headed to London on Thursday a few weeks prior to beginning a 3-month temporary assignment so that she can get settled.

During a previous Summer visit, I felt really comfortable traveling in, and came to love, that Amsterdam-Brussels-Paris corridor where I hope to spend considerable time this trip. See y'all sometime after the 28th! Merry Christmas!/peace, K

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Christmas vs. addiciton

Kate, your post made me laugh out loud. I too should not be buying any more cds before 2027, but what is a cd addict to do?

I always say that at least this is one addiction that will not kill me, but that my wife might if she knew the full blown addict that I am.

Christmas is the one time I am supposed to buy some new music, but as usual, I overdo it and then the s... hits the fan! Lol.

Between Hofheinz, remastered Zeps, new release from Jackson Brown, Jack White, Bob Seger, and archival stuff like Nektar's 1973 Remember The Future, or THE very fist Doobies album from 1971 that I have never heard but now must have, and so it goes. I went to Hittin' The Note to grab the last show ever from the Beacon and I am looking at that expanded Brothers & Sisters you commented on awhile ago.

And how about these new box sets that Amazon is offering whereby groups are offering there first 4 or 5 albums for less then $20? I literally went A to Z there with both America & ZZ Top.

So once again I am trying to repent but it just is not as easy as that.

Rock on

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Christmas in .... oh, wait, it IS December...

If I credited/rationalized every musical purchase in the last 12 months to/as personal Christmas (not to mention B-day, Easter, 4th of July, and Groundhog Day) gifts, then I oughtn't spend a dime on new acquisitions until October 2027.

Today, backlogged orders of Skynyrd ("One More From The Road" Deluxe, Winterland 3/76, and Cardiff 11/75), ABB (A.U. 12/70 and Macon 2/72), and The Who (Live at Hull & Leeds Deluxe and Who's Next Deluxe (part of a 4/71 show!)) arrived. As with Zeppelin, my appreciation for these bands failed to burgeon until exploration of live output (like most white college kids, I too had obligatory copies of the denim patterned ABB and Skynyrd Gold/Platinum Greatest Hits releases in my collection (and, yes, the latter does include a few live trax) - neither of which inspired greater exploration of either band's phenomenal on-stage legacy). This is yet another veiled tribute the Dead's influence on my listening habits.

Additionally, having picked up the Taping Compendium Vol.I about 18 months ago on ebay for $16 (shipping inclusive!), I've been terribly disappointed to find volumes II & III offered at ridiculous prices ever since (is this a 50th anniversary thing?). However, in what can only be described as a Festivus Miracle, I stumbled across copies of each for around $30 a few weeks ago, offered - no less - by Goodwill stores in WA and MO! Vol.III arrived today and, like #I, I look forward to reading it as I would a good book! Do yourself a favour and set an ebay search for "Grateful Dead Taping Compendium" with email notices for new submissions...it may just pay off.

I suppose this will generate a fair amount of eye rolling among the veteran set, but my recent personal discovery of The Who through their official live releases has been nothing short of a high-end, Richter Scale epiphany. I began sampling releases by attenuated connection to my early-Summer affair with Jethro Tull, in particular, the live releases Bursting Out ('77) and - more to the point - Isle of Wight '70....the latter leading to sampling and purchase of The Who IOW, which, despite Daltrey's intermittently flat delivery, is testament to the steroidal muscularity of a band at the top of its monster game.

Ah well, the depth and diversity of the Dead tends to inspire musical myopathy (woefully mixed stimuli), so take a moment to (re)discover some of the brilliant sounds and songs produced contemporaneous with our favourite band's heyday.

Note: In a fit of seasonal optimism, my last post strayed entirely outside the native demographic; consider the current offering a return to more appropriate domestic fare./ :))) K

P.S.: I've done a fair bit of reading on the effect of isoflavones in soy products, testing of which predominantly indicates the catalyzation of mild estrogen activity in the body at best, and less so in premonopausal women (which I am). However, if I progress to free-basing my meatless griller strips, I may have to reconsider intake levels!/K2

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Soy Evils

It is not difficult to find literature regarding the dark side of soy. From what I have read, soybeans themselves (and products like tofu and fermented derivatives) are not inherently evil when eaten in small quantities. When you get into soy protein concentrates (found in nearly all packaged vegetarian products like Clif bars, veggie burgers, etc., etc.) there is supposedly some kind of hormonal effect similar to estrogen. It's especially bad for men (brain aging and body effects) but not good for women either. This may explain the proliferation of tripped out men in Grateful Dead parking lots wearing tie-dyed dresses and dancing blissfully. Or not. Of course, this soy business is subject to debate and for all I know is a myth perpetuated by the meat industry. I do avoid all of the soy concentrates just in case. It's easy enough to find protein elsewhere.

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Synchronicity

I think the switch to a vegetarian diet back in late September played a critical role in helping me recapture a level of energy and simple feeling of well-being (especially digestively (share much? :O)) that's facilitated return to a consistent daily run-swim regimen. The mileage and yardage progressions are finally beginning to achieve a perpetuity of habitual force that helps motivate workouts even on days in which I have zero interest.

Sooo, this being the famously wide-open Eleven, I'd love to hear other recommendations for culinary creativity that will make adherence to a vegetarian regimen palatable. I've purchased the Forks Over Knives cookbook, but haven't really found it necessary yet given the vast array of soy products and my as-of-yet-undimmed romance with salad selections, pasta permutations, and tater transfigurations (okay, I've gone alliteratively arid at this point....).

Secondly, I'd appreciate any feedback from lap swimmers who have experience with either waterproofed bone conduction or conventional earbud mp3 players. I'd love to utilize those 5ish hours spent in the pool weekly for additional listening time!/peace, K

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Kevin:

The human experience is simply too diverse to expect convergence of opinion or aesthetic taste on even simple matters at any given point in time. Yet, the profundity of your insistence on the potential artistic merits of "disc 2", as opposed to the more apparent flare'n'bling of discs 3 & 4, speak volumes to our commonality: Regardless of whatever social, political, economic, or philosophical disparities might otherwise divide us, I suspect that our harmonization on the subject of "disc 2" would ensure a fast friendship!

After 3 complete cycles through the Winterland concert within 48 of receipt of Bros/Sisters Deluxe, it occurred to me that a change of discs might be rational, so, recollecting your recommendation, I trayed disc 2. Wow.

If "the Vault" contains rehearsal sessions such as this - and, really, what was the [utterly magnificent] GD 4/18/70 disc anyway, if not a formalized rehearsal? - I'd snap 'em up in a heartbeat [pun wholly intended in retrospect].

While only fractionally longer than the relatively septic studio version, the rehearsal rendition of "Wasted Words" is precious, but only a footnote to the relaxed brilliance of the instrumental "Southbound" and the true genius of "Early Morning Blues" as well as the crown jewel --- that 16+ minute "Minor Jam".

I could wax poetic over the live show, but recognize that I likely overstepped the bounds of interest on this thread fully 3 paragraphs ago; nonetheless, I feel compelled to mention one of the most stunning pieces of improvisatory music that I've ever encountered, specifically: the improbable ascent into "Amazing Grace" from the concluding chapter of the outro jam following "You Don't Love Me"...Mercy Heavens..../KC

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Continuing

with the pre-eleven listening, I've got the 10/21, Nashville 2nd set excerpt which includes ex versions of He's Gone, GSET, Bird Song, Truckin>O1>Dew - in the car.

And right now I've got some jazz (see this date, last year) and will repair shortly to C.Miller's 1st set of 12/10/71. It sounds soooo fine - soooo I hope strongly for an official sighting that, of course, includes the incredible 2nd set. No words.

What a crazy, crazy hump day!

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Never take down the Eleven thread, Powers That Be. Remove 12 when it's time for 13 if you must, but as the Delaware Destroyers sang...."leave this one alone". It just feels good.

Peace, all you smart and enlightened dancing bears.

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those pre-11/17/72 shows from a month earlier at the Fox Theatre, St. Louis, are schmokin'! The run, of course, would make a most delightful little box, no? Man, the Fall of '72 just keeps going and going, and what they were going on I haven't a clue! Guess it was that thing they call youth.

Kate - what's the take on disc two, ABB Bros.& Sis.? Got my Cowboy "5'll Get Ya Ten" today and it is a really well done project from Real Gone. I think I've come up with an accurate analogy - it is to ABB Fillmore East what NRPS is to Skull & Roses. It's worth every penny.

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He definitely had an ear for some Good Ol' Grateful Dead

Sad news. Funny how he had his 11 as the same as Dave. 11-17-72. Dicks Picks 11 was a 72' show, so I'm not sure if those are all coincidence, but I don't think so. Quite a few of those shows should get the official treatment. Some have already. I know one for sure is going to be 11-14-73.

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RIP Skobud

Tonight I weep for the friend I never met; thank you for treating a relative novice with kindness, patience, and respect. The community shall, of course, go on - but, we are greatly diminished...and so also ends the brilliant "Dick Didn't Pick" series :( /K

http://www.legacy.com/guestbook/Batesville/guestbook.aspx?n=timothy-skoba&pid=173337978

RE: DDP (Tim's response to my inquiry on the Ark for the series (some should look very familiar at this point)):

"Sure no problem Kate:

http://archive.org/post/373530/ddp-v13 (The first 13 are here)

http://archive.org/post/374830/ddp-v14

https://archive.org/post/420277/ddp-15-almost-tdih-bump-5-17-77

https://archive.org/post/435313/ddp-v-16

https://archive.org/post/1003069/ddp-v-17-11-14-73

http://gratefuldeadcoverart.blogspot.com/search/label/Skobud This site has a ton of great artwork from a few of the members over at TA. I also have a bunch of stuff posted over there that I have never posted here."

Note: "TA" refers to Transitive Axis

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http://www.gratefulmusic.com/2014/11/the-dead-will-reunite-at-lock-festival.html?m=1

I regretted not attending this year's monster line-up, but considering the GD's 50th in conjunction with just early enlistees like Tedeschi Trucks, the Doobie Bros, Widespread Panic, and SCI, I'll be purchasing my first Lockn Festy tix when they go on sale Tues (even if the core 4 is just a specious rumour)! WOOT! This IS going to be an amazing year.../K

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Favorite Europe 72 show

Man, I'm intrigued by the 5/23 choice! For me the E72 top tier have always been 4/8, 4/11, 4/14, 5/4, 5/11, and 5/26. But I'm loathe to make judgements about 72 Dead. My opinions are always evolving. For example, Dusseldorf 4/24 was released some 10 years ago. I used to be confused by this choice. This, as the second E72 Dark Star show release? I liked the Dark Star but after dozens of listenings never considered it one of the great E72 versions, until recently. Last week, I listened to it 3 times on a long Amtrak ride and had some major epiphanies. Yes, surely 4/24 is among the greatest E72 Dark Stars! Like the best Dead, repeated listenings are always rewarded. For me, last week, the more carefully I listened to the 4/24 Star the more unfamiliar it sounded. I know of no other music like this! I haven't yet fallen in love with some E72 shows, including 4/29, 5/3, 5/10, 5/23, and 5/25 but maybe I just need more time with them. Hopefully not decades, as I'm not getting any younger.
Happy Thanksgiving to all! I'll echo dantian's nice post last week. I'm thankful for this forum and all the good folks here. I don't know any other Deadheads, and this is the only place I can spill my guts!

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Europe 1972

My favorite show from Europe '72 (e.g. best ever GD tour) is 5/26, followed very closely by 4/8. In fact, these two shows are in my top ten GD shows of all time (closer to #1 than to #10).

I'm currently giving the 5/23 show another listen, after reading the praise for this show from KeithFan. I'm not yet in the "meat" of this show. I know it has been a while since I last listened to this show.....

I'm curious to hear thoughts from others regarding favorite shows from Europe 1972.

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Happy Thanksgiving!

Some of us have to work today! Oh well, I have New Year's off and I'll make big bucks today! Thanks for the Thanksgiving wallpaper Kate, it goes with the Tony the Tiger wallpaper u posted a couple of months ago! As I think about it, I too rarely listen to studio music. I just picked up the Stones 75 L.A. show. It rocks, if u dont have it get it! Ron Wood is very underrated as a guitarist and Keith is overrated! I also picked up Chicago 9/13/69, great stuff also. Sound quality sucks but the performance is awesome. Terry Kath is another tremendously underrated guitarist! If you listen to Dicks Picks 8, during one of the jams(Dancin,or Viola Lee, cant remember at the moment!) I swear Jerry is playing some Chicago licks! Anyway, off to work soon! Have a great holiday folks!!!!

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E72

I'm partial to Bob's performance on 5/5, which - in one cascading series of events - accurately typifies his ineffable generosity; chivalry; cool crisis composure; and sense of cinema dramatique, not to mention gymnastic agility!

To wit: The crowd aboil over cancellation of a scheduled show at Lille due to an AWOL equipment truck, Weir stood rearguard against the French fried mob, and as noted by McNally, "A gentleman to the end, [his] main worry...was getting the interpreter, Rosie McGee, and photographer, Mary Ann Mayer [out the dressing room window and] down the drainpipe. That being accomplished, he turned to the promoter, promised they'd make up the show, dropped a rose on the sill, and scooted down the pipe...".

"dropped a rose on the sill"...

As far as shows, for me they're like nearly-indistinguishable tracks on a favourite LP; along with FW69, the tour is my collection's crown jewel! Incidentally, I have a penchant for playing the run in it's chronological entirety - as I've done 3 times since purchase on Black Friday 2012; which, by-the-by, rang up WITH the 20% discount despite the promotional caveat (keep an eye this year). Hippy Thanksgiving!/K

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First, I still can't believe I own the crate - it is truly one of the holiest of holy grails. A few years ago the notion emerged here of which show would you rather have attended, 4/08 or 8/27, and the person to whom this was directed said 4/08 because Pig was there. He had been at said performance. I, of course, first heard the performances from the official vinyl release, but down the line came across a vinyl boot of the Dark Star from 4/08 and will always find it a contender for best ever. And I love 5/23 - those Lyceum shows are just dripping that "no se que" that is the essence of the Grateful Dead.

Kate, you bring up a curious notion about studio releases being placed on the back burner. All those groups you mentioned I listen to live performances just about all the time. When it comes to the ABB, the studio versions I love are Dreams, Melissa, Blue Sky and Little Martha. There is a much larger number of Duane away from the Bros., including those on Tuesday's release of 5'll Get you Ten by Cowboy - the best being Please Be with Me. Enjoying coffees to first Beethoven and next Delaney and Bonnie's Motel Shot featuring DA.

Gotta get some miles in today to make that Thanksgiving dinner a little extra sweet! For the ride I've got the Fox, Oct. 17, '72 - just whittling away at the shows in anticipation of Dave's 12 and the forthcoming RSD release - yes, indeed, life is good - very, very good. Thanks PTB.

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Best Europe '72 Show

I'm going to go with 5/23. Most of the performances on E72 are the same - F'ing awesome. The sound quality is also uniformly kick-ass. What separates the women from the girls is the setlist, and this one has the best Promised Land kicking off the show (as evidenced by the heavy distortion in the opening guitar lick), followed by a lot of great songs, including Dark Star, Morning Dew, Sugar Magnolia, and Uncle John's Band. What's missing is Cold Rain and Bertha.

you guys have a favorite from this tour?

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Well, "some" would most definitely be wrong! Ages ago on this very thread I posted that only 2 shows had survived semi-annual purges of the Ipod: 2/26/77 and 5/14/78. Almost predictably, 2/26 gained significant traction, but I must say, that after 2014's mid-summer Ipod memory clearance, only 5/14 remained. My point: Those who ignore 5/14 and, the epochal, 12/31 in their declaration of the cessation of GREAT shows post '77 cannot peremptorily qualify as really, really, good friends - regardless of their alternative merits (nobel peace prizes included). Honestly, one must draw the line somewhere!

You sly, sly dog! I thought that your invocation of "Hittin' the Note" was merely a hip employment of vernacular regarding sonically pleasing aesthetic qualities to which I simply wasn't attuned. BUT, the liner notes to B&S Deluxe - which arrived today - set me straight...darn, but I love clever folk!

The pool - in which I swim 4-5/7 days weekly - and the state & national parks - in which I run 5/7 days weekly - stand in diametric opposition on the compass face, which allows a great deal of quality listening time en route....I picked up the Deluxe ABB B&S box today headed to the pool and, after finishing my post-dark run by 7:30, had listened to the 3rd disk (that is, the first disk of the Winterland '73 show) twice!!! WOW!!! Having exclusively immersed myself in the Duane & Berry era since ABB discovery, the introduction of Leavell on keys comprised a phenomenal new dimension to the band's extemporaneous sound; however, my preference is still for that 800 pound gorilla that was the ABB prior to the fateful 10/29.

Tomorrow I'll tackle disc 4 (the second disc of the live show) and then disc 2 of the box set, which - I realize - you facetiously characterized as the "throw away"; however, for me, the dispensible disc in any set is usually the studio album, as I've developed a relative antipathy toward engineered sound. In fact, given the plethora of live releases from bands as diverse as The Doors to County Joe, Jimi, Canned Heat, Ten Years After, and Dylan, as well as a thriving bootleg market on ebay and Discogs for other favourites like CSN(Y), REM, The Smiths, Zep, and Floyd, it's safe to say that studio albums constitute less than 10-15% of my listening time.

Okay, bedtime - the last 2 nights pup and I have hit the trails shortly after 6 pm, which means post-nightfall, necessitating the use of the headlamp because of the sliver moon...a great deal of fun with even more added sensory deprivation for focused listening on the Ipod! Truly, Life is Good! Oh, The Who Isle of Wight and Clapton's One Night are en route...hopefully here tomorrow!/K

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Cant't help w/ the SP box. But I must say thank you for the great Dick's read - some say it was over after that show. I don't know.
Glad to see the ABB is Hittin' the Note for you. Your post was a day after Duane's 68th - que coincidencia! Be prepared for mild astonishment when you hear the "throw away" 2nd disc from Bros. and Sistas Deluxe.
All those savory cervezas you mentioned sound great - I used to have a serious jones for Molson Ice.
I'd be dropped six miles from home and run back to a few I'd placed in the freezer - whoa! Endolphins and 8%!!!
As for the running toggery, I keep it in my back seat (eew, right!). In Summer the pile is manageable, but in Winter it's out of control. I've got tights and pants but I prefer shorts - if it's 35 and and calm I'm clad in shorts and a couple tech shirts, but if it's below 35 and blustery more and more I'm taking it as an opportunity to take a powder - I really need go where the winds don't blow so strange - and stay there!
Presently immersing myself in the recent Charlie Miller, 12/05/71, Felt Forum - it's by far the most complete and sonically accurate version yet posted. Dead-solid-pitch-perfect, too! Nos vemos.

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Bravo Dedic8td...

...as in life, consistent and relentless forward progress on the trails will yield remarkable rewards. Yet, this psychotic weather has precipitated running wardrobe chaos, as I now set aside the tights, coldgear mock-T, neck gaiter, fleece headband, and gloves for a short sleeved T and shorts! This, however, is NOT a complaint! :)

Beer. (a moment of reverential silence)

Given that I share a border with the 20th century (I'm not prepared to acknowledge millennial-grade progress in this region just yet!), residing in a dry county isn't such a terrible inconvenience.

Moreover, while attending conference this week to obtain the CLE credits required for annual bar recertification, I loaded up the jeep with a geographically and flavourfully diverse array of malted nectar, including Sam Adams Cold Snap, Winter Lager, and White Christmas, as well as Leinie Cherry Doppelschwarz, Molson Golden, and Rolling Rock Amber. A yummy holiday stock, especially as I don't anticipate traveling through the New Year.

Coincidentally, after a couple weeks immersed in my most recent musical discovery, ABB, I pulled The Eleven and really enjoyed reacquaintance with that nomadic PITB from OKC, for which I was in the just-exactly-perfect frame of mind after labyrinthine travels through 15-45 minute workouts of Elizabeth Reed, Whipping Post, Dreams, You Don't Love Me, and Mountain Jam from the staggeringly good shows on FE/71, Ludlow's Garage, SUNY 71, and Atlanta Pop/70...I just ordered Bros/Sisters deluxe this morning for that 73 show (I'm taking leap of faith into the post-Duane and Oakley incarnation).

Okay, I've run out of steam...but can't resist propagating Skobod's latest Dick Didn't Pick (DDP) selection from over on the Ark: 1/22/78 ... I've made one complete pass of the Miller transfer and plan to revisit on the ipod during wkend runs...just check out what Dick had to say (!) (it really is hoary beast - and, yes, perhaps the definitive Close Encounters riff from a few early 78 shows during which JG toyed with that theme):

Edit: the embed code failed, so cutnpaste this link -

http://imgur.com/6eVqrEx

/K

Edit II: BDD (or anyone), I'd consider trading my sealed RT 3:3 for a new, NM, or possibly VG+ copy of the Sex Pistols 3 cd box (the one with the Union Jack on the front)...would love to know if anyone has it!/K

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Glorious beer, indeed! I'm definitely one of those drinkers who has a running problem. Cheers!

What a great date it is for Dave's Picks. In addition to this 'ere 72, Wichita show, we have the incredible Pauley Pav from '73. The improvement in quality from my old tape to this (it's on now) - what does Salieri say after he sees the expression on Constance's face after she samples the Nipples of Venus? - work of art is some kinda sweet! Don't ya think this is a top ten from'73? Easy.

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Hey y'all in deadland.......I'm looking to complete my road trips collection and as you know Denver 73, the 76 show and the really rare 1970 acoustic/electric set show is sold out.....I have extra copies of Dave's picks 2 Dillion stadium 74 epic show and Dave's picks 3 Chicago 71 that I'm willing to trade to anyone who wants to part with those 3 road trips.....my copies are not sealed but are mint condition all the way......only opened to upload and then back to the shelf etc........pm me if anyone has interest.......and thank god for the good ole grateful dead

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http://liveforlivemusic.com/news/weir-biographer-shares-lengthy-status-about-dead-reunion-rumors/

Dead8: I'll have your s/n down to a mere consonant soon...glad you enjoyed it!; the trail community is so very much more relaxed than those high intensity road races. Glad you had fun! And beer! Glorious beer!/K

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It was a hoot! To be honest I wasn't racing/on the clock - I just thoroughly enjoyed it! Not a lot of room to pass, of course, so I laid back and zipped and skipped only when necessary. We started a good 15 minutes late because the shuttle was still bringin' 'em in. (200 cap) It was well-chilly at the start, but once we got going it was fine. In fact, 'bout half-way thru the sun came out and it was real comfortable. There was an assortment of craft beers and pulled-pork sandwiches, along with the usual post-race fare. They had a guitar player who I asked if he knew Dead, and he said, yes, but that he'd played some earlier - then I felt really slow. The hi-light though was meeting my daughter later for Lucinda Williams - it had its moments, but we had a blast!!!

I'm listening to that classic Horace Silver & the Jazz Messengers Blue Note disc with Hank Mobley, Art Blakey, etc., from this date, 1954. To say this sounds sweet is an absurd understatement.
Later, Hank Mobley, "Roll Call". Tomorrow night will be RT, Ft. worth, '71.

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Kate, torrents

"WJ & D, courtesy Simon and other veterans, I became pretty well acquainted with etree and bitorrenting early this summer. If I can help seed, wetransfer, or dropbox a show I certainly will..."

Thanks Kate, if you or anyone else has that 1216 source for 3/24/73 I'm looking for I would much appreciate a seed.

I think I was one of those "others" btw, that helped you with torrents and converting flacs, etc. I remember a long discussion on file types. Traders Little Helper, WAVS vs MP3s, CBR vs VBR, etc. I actually seeded your favorite '74 show for you, 9/18.

Dang lawyers, sure they're your best friends when they want you to call their case, but otherwise they act like they never met you before ;)

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Sure you did, Kate

I think you're confusing '73 with '74 again. You're confusing me, anyway ;)

Waaaay down below on Oct 30 in your post titled "Ok Mr J" it (3/24) was your number one pick for '73, a "MUST, MUST, MUST hear..." you said, though you weren't speaking to me. MJS replied, "sounds like I'll be sampling 3/24/73 on the Archive tonight."

Then on Nov 9 in your post titled "The boyz of Deadnet" in a reply to me about 6/10/73, you said it (6/10) didn't make your top 10 for that year, and that "For the record, that list would read something like (chronologically): 2/24 (DaP 13!!!!!!!!)..."

But that was your list for '74, not '73, wasn't it? But that's OK, time traveling the way we do gets confusing sometimes ;)

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D, WJ, HB, DEDIC8TD

I'm pleased that you discovered a great new show, but I don't recall recommending 3/24; it may well be that you misread 2/24, which headlined my chronological list of '73 faves (?)

WJ & D, courtesy Simon and other veterans, I became pretty well acquainted with etree and bitorrenting early this summer. If I can help seed, wetransfer, or dropbox a show I certainly will...also, Ian and others have offered the same - just ask.

HB: I absolutely love those NRPS/GD shows, especially the two-fers where each band performed alternating first(early)/second(late) sets! Of the few I've discovered, my star-spangled favourite is 10/31/70 (I have a great .wav SBD if anyone's interested).

DEDIC8TD: I need a race report! I've been taking advantage of encroaching winter and daylight savings to incorporate "night" runs into my schedule...by hitting the trailhead around 6, I need the headlamp by 6:20ish - puppy loves it and I enjoy the solitude of running the dark with the benefit of finishing before 8:30, which is generally before the apex predators emerge - most significantly, mountain cats, of which we have a considerable variety (bobcats, lions, and even a black panther caught on park security video {{{shiver}}})./K

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That's OK, Wjonjd

Thanks for trying. Honestly, I prefer to get it in lossless format anyway, and the other SBD source I grabbed is good enough for now. But I do appreciate your efforts.

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Dantian

Hey,

I gave up on seeding my own MP3 version - couldn't get it to work properly when I used a tester to see if it could get to my "seeded" files.

So, let me know if you want to use dropbox to transfer the files.

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3/24/73 Torrent

Hi Dantian,

Ok, I think I can get this, but it still needs to show up on Torrent sites. I checked, and I think I can see how to add a new "source" which would be the MP3 version of the original source.

However, it appears that all the sites that used for Grateful Dead torrents are pretty specifically for lossless versions of the shows (I can understand that).

So, without "listing" it anywhere, it should be currently available as gd73-03-24.sbd.hamilton.1216MP3.sbeok.shnf (notice the MP3 in the name).

However, if you can't get to it, I have dropbox. I could probably get it to you that way.

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Wjonjd, I'm a torrent newb myself

I know about as much as you. After I download a torrent, it becomes available for seeding to others in my client. If I transfer the folder from my portable HDD to a second computer, I pretend to download it on that computer (i.e. click download link) and the client then checks the files for accuracy against the checksums, and then makes it available for seeding as if I had downloaded it.

Since your copy is MP3 and not the SHN version the torrent name indicates, I would think the different checksums would be fouling it up as you said.

I never tried to create my own torrent, but there should be such a function in your client. With uTorrent, it is under "File > Create New Torrent." I don't know what it is on your client, but if you do make one I agree you should give it a different name and probably include "MP3" somewhere in the name.

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Dantian - I'm a total newb at torrent

Hi Dantian - just so you know, I got this version by capturing the stream, so it's mp3, not lossless.
Maybe I need to give it a different name, as it will have different checksums than the one that looks like is a torrent seed already which appears to be much larger (lossless).

I'm using BitComet. Assume I have the show as 31 separate files in their own folder under my main torrent folder.

Can you tell me what I need to do to make this available to others. I know that my firewalls and port forwarding are good (I get a green light from the app concerning the listening port. Right now the folder is named like I mentioned before, which may not be a good idea. Maybe it needs a different name?

I have only downloaded using torrent before. I know that things I download become available to others. But since I didn't download this using torrent, I don't know what I need to do to make it available.

Can you give any guidance? And a way for me to check that it's truly available after I make any changes?

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Thanks wjonjd!

But only 15.8% of it seems to be available. Did you also add it to your torrent list in your client? Just putting it in the folder won't add it to your client. If you click on the link as if to download it, your client will check it and automatically add it to your torrents. Forgive me if you know this already.

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The Circuit is Now Complete...

Driving down Broad Street one cold day in March of '73, a piece of metal came bouncing end-over-end into my windshield, making a loud "POP!" that startled the living daylights out of me, causing me to veer into a light pole. Upon closer examination of the piece of metal embedded in my windshield, I realized it wasn't just a piece of brass plumbing, it was some sort of smoking device, no doubt discarded by one of those hippie Grateful Dead fans leaving the show that night....

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Dantian 1216 3/24/73

@Dantian -
I have logged in and placed the 1216 version in my torrent folder - it is called gd73-03-24.sbd.hamilton.1216.sbeok.shnf

Please let me know if it's not showing up. :)

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Kate, 3/24/73

I've sampled a few of the 1st set tracks, very nice, starting the He's Gone sequence now...sounds like a real winner of a show. I should have know, geez, did they ever play a bad show at The Spectrum.

BTW, which source do you think is better, the 1216 or the 25508? The 1216 sounds a little brighter to me, could just be my imagination, but only the 25508 is being seeded atm.

Edit: I'm deep in the Jam section now, and I gotta say this show is a great find, Kate, thanks very much for the tip! See, this is exactly why I don't just go show by show on my own, because I don't want to know everything yet, I'd rather wait for such hidden gems to be revealed in due time, lest these wonderful surprises are all used up, and then what would I do.

I have decided though that the 1216 source is indeed brighter sounding, and even though I have already downloaded the 25508, I will keep trying for the 1216, someone is bound to log on with it at some point.

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3/24/73

Following one of Kate's comments earlier in this thread, I decided to check out the 3/24/73 show she mentioned, since I was not familiar with it. So I'm on the archive poking around for the best source, and one of the comments caught my eye. I thought it was pretty funny, and real, and reminded me of the magic of a Dead show:

"Reviewer: lp357
"Subject: Amusing Memory

"Ahhh the Spectrum we loathed the acoustics but the band always put on great shows throughout the seventies. I don't know how some people remember minute details from a 40+ year old show. I remember walking out exhausted and drained a feeling of contented euphoria a common side affect of a 70"s show. A 2ND LISTEN confirms those feelings. Anyway here is my amusing memory-Their we're 4 or 5 of us I loaded my treasured brass pipe(an antique of 2 years, very old for those days) I passed the duchie to the left but it never came back. Upon investigation my magnanimous unthinking friend passed it on to left. Anyway after a few choice words I pulled out my zigzags and went back to enjoying the show. As God is my witness 4 hours latter I was tapped on the right shoulder their was my pipe fully loaded no less. If you know the Spectrum you could not conceive of the impossibility of my bowl making a circuit of the entire arena-ONLY AT A GRATEFUL DEAD SHOW!
P.S.Left the pipe on the roof of the car in the parking lot after the show it slid off somewhere on Broad street all that's left are the memories."

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11/11

The planets aligned on this day in '67 and '73...while the latter is legendary and, of course, captured in the magnificent Winterland box (2nd set pyrotechnics with a staggering 50-minute DS>MLB Jam>Eyes sequence), the former is preserved by a SBD that I rate B/B+ though I fear many will find unpalatable given changing sonic expectations precipitated by the wonderfully engineered commercial catalogue.

Nonetheless, as I type, NPC has just wound to a close on the Bell SBD and - as many have reiterated the desire for a '67 release - I strongly recommend investment in the nearly 60 minutes required for listening should this pivotal period be of personal interest (listening - and certainly with the benefit of hindsight regarding the jammy, fuzzy, feedbacky, acidy sounds of 68 to come - this show underscores the notion that the band had found its idiom heading into the so-called "primal" years).

http://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1967/11/11/turn-on-your-lovelight

P.S.: Pig really can rock the organ! (double entre NOT intended)/K

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Finally figured it out....

Kate,

I'm fairly new here and didn't figure out how the whole IM thing works until several days after you posted the 12/31/78 comment to me. And then of course, I couldn't figure out that you meant the DP 11 blog in the comment you made to me. And so today, I've finally caught up and....

Yes, I think the ousting of Keith and Donna represents that point in a band's existence when they stopped being a band on a developmental arc, and became a NEW BAND. I'm sure folks will disagree but, it happens to a lot of bands. For the Who, it was after Keith Moon died; for the Stones, it was sometime after Tattoo You (or possibly earlier, after Mick Taylor left); for Genesis it was after Peter Gabriel left; for Yes, it was after they broke up in '78.

And for the Dead, it was after Keith & Donna left. In my mind, they joined the Dead as the Dead were evolving, and the band continued to evolve during their tenure; but their departure also meant the departure of a sound that was a core component of their native soul, a sound that was never recaptured (it couldn't be, they were too integral in its making, too deeply embedded). This is not to say that there was nothing GOOD after they left - it just wasn't a continuation of the original arc - it was a new beginning (albeit one with old roots).

For Jefferson Airplane, it was after Grace Slick left; for KISS, it was after Ace Frehley left; for Van Halen, it was after David Lee Roth left, for AC/DC it was after For Those About to Rock; for Rush it was after the fricken producer left in '82 (can you believe that?); and you can me Ned, and you can call me Jed, and you call me Fred......

P.S. - I walk 2 hours a night, and boy is it a great time to space my face with some Dead! In fact, I picked up a 64GB card for my phone so that I can fit ALL of my 100 shows on one unit...

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Fair enough, Kate

If you've spent all that time with it, I'm not gonna twist your arm ;)

To me that show may not get as deep as other '73 shows, but sometimes that's exactly what I'm looking for; the majesty of the '73 sound but in a slightly more laid back way.

By the way, that's your list for '74 not '73, I am guessing. I'm really looking forward to DaP13 too.

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I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE

that you guys have kept The Eleven alive! Incidentally, Dude (name unknown) posted re: his tribute band on a Forum thread...and while, first, I admire the HECK outta any group that can get together and pay homage to the GOGD with an even modestly presentable rendition of their catalogue, I really DIG, DIG, DIG the bubbly sounds of this keyboardist, who appears somewhat older than the rest (I'm referring to the BEW vid).

https://www.facebook.com/sunshinedaydreamdeadband

Great work guys....really! Wish I were closer than 13+ hours away or I'd be a groupie! :)))) /K

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The boyz of deadnet...

...you guys really are a collective class act. As an Econ major who went the (wayward) way of law, I empathize entirely with hbob; yet, if your dedication (no "a") to classwork has yielded a disposable income capable of indulging in the latest releases without budgetary qualms, then 'you win'.

And honestly, Dantian, though I appreciate your concerned remonstration, I've been living with the Miller SBD of 6/10 on my ipod since shortly after the 4th of July (read: repeated, isolated listens during trail runs); so, don't fret over the inability to embed a vid! Indeed, I don't dispute the show's remarkable highlights, including Eyes, and - even more to my ken - that Dickey Betts' inspired romp from NFA>GDTRFB>NFA reprise.

Yet, 6/10 doesn't even make my top X for the year - though that's an admittedly tough club to crack amongst a battery of standout annual shows rivaled only in depth by similarly legendary years like '70, '72, and '77.

For the record, that list would read something like (chronologically): 2/24 (DaP 13!!!!!!!!); 5/19 (PERSONAL FAVOURITE #2); 6/16; 6/18; 6/20; 6/23; 6/26; 6/28; 7/19; and - PERSONAL FAVOURITE NUMERO UNO - 9/18./peace, K :)

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Kate

Don't know if you'll see this response a week later, but I felt compelled to chime in on the '73 discussion, specifically about 6/10.

I agree with you about the over-rating of 9/3/77, but I urge you to give 6/10/73 another chance to dazzle you. If nothing else, just listen to that 6/10 Eyes again. One of my favorite Eyes, just let it grow on you and I think it may help redeem the show, um, in your eyes.

P.S. - I noticed that I can't embed links anymore either, I think they may have done away with that ability on these boards.

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1973

Hello Kate & JS. Your full on discussion of '73 brought me back there.

My first ever Dead show at the Buffalo Aud.3/31. NRPS opened. We jumped over the hockey wall and were Dead center, about 10 rows back. That was as close as I ever would get, but who knew? The boys returned on 9/26 with the horns to do full justice to Wake. But get this, I passed on that one and have been kicking myself for the past 41 years! The thing was, I had a big Economics exam the next day, and for once in my life I did the "responsible" thing. Actually got a B on the exam. My friends who went to the show and blew off the exam all flunked it the next day, but who had the better time was never in doubt! Lol. Too funny & sad at the same time.

Rock on

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Kate

Here's the dope on my run this weekend. The organizers have offered three distances: 10k, 20k & 30k. If you want to do more than 10k, you have to repeat the loop. It's difficult terrain in a state park and the conditions are looking kinda mean - about 30 at game time with 17mph winds. But the mollifier is I-Tap will be there! Another thing to look forward to post-run is I'm going to Lucinda Williams comp. I really like her new release; she's assembled quite a team of players and I'm eager to know who of them she's bringing with her. Well, it's about ten days 'til the anniversary of Dave's 11, but in the mean time I've got #12 goin'.