Grateful Dead

Spring 1990, Volume One Box - SOLD OUT

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What's Inside:
60 page hardcover Smyth-Sewn book featuring essays by Dennis McNally, David Lemieux, and Blair Jackson and photos by Jim Anderson & Mike Laurentis
25th Anniversary Tour Program
Official Band Letters
6 Ticket Stubs
6 Cloth Sticker Backstage Passes
1 Tour Laminate
Official 1990 Band publicity shot
6 complete shows on 18 discs
       3/16/90 Capital Center, Landover, MD
       3/19/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
       3/22/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, ON, Canada
       3/26/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
       3/30/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
       4/2/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA

Box Dimensions: 12-1/8" x 3-1/8" x 12-1/8"
Recorded and Mixed Live by John Cutler
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman in HDCD
Original art by Wes Lang
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

Introducing The Next Box: Spring 1990!

And now for something a little different. This year's box set - Grateful Dead: Spring 1990 - offers six complete shows from the epic spring '90 tour, one concert from each city the band played, personally selected by Dead vaultmeister and archival release producer David Lemieux. The sizzling six are: 3/16/90 Capital Centre (Landover , MD), 3/19/90 Hartford Civic Center, 3/22/90 Copps Coliseum (Hamilton, Ontario), 3/26/90 Knickerbocker Arena (Albany, NY), 3/30/90 Nassau Coliseum (Uniondale, NY) and 4/2/90 The Omni (Atlanta, GA).

In his "Producer's Note" in the beautiful book that is part of the box, Lemieux, who attended the first 10 shows on the tour, states, "To my ears this was the last tour that was consistently great, where every show is excellent, not a dud in the bunch." And Grateful Dead historian Dennis McNally's comprehensive and informative insider's essay in the box is titled "The Last Great Dead Tour." These guys know what they're talking about.

Basically, the band had been on an upward trajectory since Garcia's return to the road in the spring of '87, following his near-death the previous summer. Of course, 1987 was a trip in itself, what with the unexpected mega-success of In the Dark and their first hit single, "Touch of Grey." But the momentum just kept building with each subsequent tour, as Garcia got back up to full speed (and then some!) and the group as a whole was as unified as they had ever been since Brent joined the band in the spring of '79. New original tunes were popping up and the old favorites were imbued with a freshness and spirit that was so uplifting and inspiring. The band was having fun again, and it was downright infectious.

The group's fall 1989 shows-as documented two years ago on the Formerly the Warlocks box (two shows from Hampton, VA, 10/8-9/89) and on the 2001 release Nightfall of Diamonds (a single night in NJ, 10/16/89)- kicked the energy level up another couple of notches, as the band reintroduced such loved classics as "Help on the Way" > "Slipknot!," "Attics of My Life," "Death Don't Have No Mercy" and "Dark Star."

And when the band hit the road in mid-March 1990, they had a bunch of other cool tunes to lay on their unsuspecting crowds, including the return of "Loose Lucy" (last played in 1974; it's not on this box), Brent's "Easy to Love You" (missing since 1980), a rollicking cover of the Rolling Stones' "The Last Time," The Band's "The Weight" (with all four singers taking a verse each) and a lyrically retooled "Black-Throated Wind" (absent since 1974), which elicited huge cheers every time it was played.

Over these six shows, most of the cornerstones of the Dead's repertoire from the era appear-splendid versions of "Scarlet Begonias" > "Fire on the Mountain," "China Cat Sunflower" > "I Know You Rider," "Playing in the Band," "Uncle John's Band," "Eyes of the World," "Estimated Prophet," "Truckin'," "Sugar Magnolia," "The Other One," "Terrapin," "Stella Blue," "Feel Like a Stranger," "Bird Song," "Let It Grow," "China Doll," "Box of Rain," "Morning Dew"; you name it. From the fall '89 breakouts come "Help-Slip-Frank," "Attics of My Life" and "Death Don't Have No Mercy." Among the still newish tunes are "Picasso Moon," "Blow Away," "Foolish Heart," "Just a Little Light," "Victim or the Crime," "Standing on the Moon," "We Can Run" and a couple that would get their final plays from the Grateful Dead on this tour-"Built to Last" and "Believe It or Not." There are stirring renditions of "Dear Mr. Fantasy" and "Black Muddy River," rockin' takes on "Gimme Some Lovin'" and "Iko Iko" and the only version of the full "Hey Jude" the band attempted in the modern era. And the "Rhythm Devils" and "Space" jams at the heart of each second set are as noisy-beautiful-scary-funny-intense-mysterious-wild as you'd expect/hope for.

Of course, we understand that some of you may have other favorite shows from this tour you wish were included on this box. Really, you can't go wrong with any of them. But at 18 discs, this is still the second largest Grateful Dead box (after Europe '72: The Complete Recordings) that's been released, and the non-inclusion of any other shows from the tour definitely does not preclude their future release! But this seemed like a more manageable way to go, while still giving a sense of the tour's amazing depth and breadth.

Besides the discs themselves, Grateful Dead: Spring 1990 has much to offer, including: a gorgeous 60-page hardcover book containing copious color photos by Jim Anderson and Michael Laurentus, unique artwork by Brooklyn-based fine artist Wes Lang, fascinating business letters and communications related to the tour, a detailed historical essay by Dennis McNally, a Producer's Note by David Lemieux and individual show descriptions by Blair Jackson; a reproduction of the Dead's 1990 tour program (printed and sold later in '90, for the fall and Europe '90 tours); tickets and backstage passes of all six shows; a band publicity photo from 1990 by Ken Friedman; Dennis McNally's tour laminate; and reproductions of the colored 8x10 sheets GDTS sent out with hotel, food and other information for each city on the tour.

With recordings made by longtime Grateful Dead recordist and producer John Cutler, mastered by Jeffrey Norman in HDCD, you just know it's gonna sound great-and it does!

So, that's the skinny this time 'round. This box is limited to just 9,000 numbered copies - please note, this is the only time these shows will ever be officially available on CD. There will not be an All Music Edition and single shows will not be available physically. Due to ship out August 31st, we anticipate that this extraordinary set will sell-out, so order your copy today!

If you're looking for more of a bite-sized taste of the '90s, Spring 1990: So Glad You Made It, a 2-CD set featuring a handful of favorites, will be in stores on September 18th.

-Blair Jackson

Listening Party

4/2/90, The Omni, Atlanta, GA

Foolish Heart>
Looks Like Rain>
He's Gone>
The Last Time

Click here for an archive of past Spring 1990 Listening Parties.

Spring 1990: A Look Inside The Box

Bob Remembers Spring 1990

David Lemieux on What’s Inside Spring 1990


Show #1
Capital Center, Landover, Md (3/16/90)

Disc 1
1. Let The Good Times Roll> [4:11]
2. Touch Of Grey [6:28]
3. New Minglewood Blues [7:44]
4. Peggy-O [6:34]
5. Queen Jane Approximately [6:15]
6. Loser [7:22]
7. Black-Throated Wind [6:03]
8. Bird Song [14:23]
9. Blow Away [12:02]

Disc 2
1. Scarlet Begonias> [11:21]
2. Estimated Prophet> [11:04]
3. Ship Of Fools> [7:39]
4. Man Smart, Woman Smarter> [6:55]
5. Jam> [5:24]
6. Rhythm Devils [9:37]

Disc 3
1. Space> [10:42]
2. The Other One> [6:55]
3. Stella Blue> [8:49]
4. Sugar Magnolia [9:16]
5. The Last Time [5:19]

Show #2
Civic Center, Hartford, Ct (3/19/90)

Disc 1
1. Hell In A Bucket> [6:43]
2. Bertha [7:10]
3. We Can Run [7:05]
4. Jack-A-Roe [5:13]
5. Picasso Moon [7:41]
6. Brown-Eyed Women [5:59]
7. It's All Over Now> [7:25]
8. Deal [8:41]

Disc 2
1. Box Of Rain [5:27]
2. Foolish Heart> [11:35]
3. Playing In The Band> [8:32]
4. Eyes Of The World> [14:41]
5. Rhythm Devils [10:26]

Disc 3
1. Space> [10:52]
2. China Doll> [6:13]
3. Gimme Some Lovin'> [4:31]
4. Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad> [6:55]
5. Around And Around [6:36]
6. Brokedown Palace [5:48]

Show #3
Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada (3/22/90)

Disc 1
1. Feel Like A Stranger [8:12]
2. West L. A. Fadeaway [7:41]
3. Easy To Love You [6:14]
4. Beat It On Down The Line [3:34]
5. It Must Have Been The Roses [6:29]
6. The Last Time [5:40]
7. Picasso Moon [7:07]
8. Don't Ease Me In [3:30]

Disc 2
1. Scarlet Begonias> [8:30]
2. Fire On The Mountain [11:44]
3. Samson And Delilah [6:51]
4. Believe It Or Not [6:32]
5. Truckin'> [11:04]
6. Rhythm Devils [11:36]

Disc 3
1. Space> [8:14]
2. The Other One> [6:42]
3. Hey Jude> [4:53]
4. Dear Mr. Fantasy> [3:58]
5. Hey Jude> [4:31]
6. Sugar Magnolia [8:45]
7. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue [7:10]

Show #4
Knickerbocker Arena, Albany Ny (3/26/90)

Disc 1
1. Hell In A Bucket [6:53]
2. Dupree's Diamond Blues [6:08]
3. Just A Little Light [5:15]
4. Black-Throated Wind [6:32]
5. Big Railroad Blues [4:40]
6. Picasso Moon [7:17]
7. Row Jimmy [10:53]
8. Blow Away [11:31]

Disc 2
1. Built To Last [5:29]
2. Victim Or The Crime> [9:56]
3. China Cat Sunflower> [5:45]
4. I Know You Rider> [5:24]
5. Man Smart, Woman Smarter> [6:14]
6. Rhythm Devils [11:21]

Disc 3
1. Space> [8:29]
2. I Need A Miracle> [4:03]
3. Dear Mr. Fantasy> [5:20]
4. Gimme Some Lovin'> [5:09]
5. Morning Dew [11:57]
6. Brokedown Palace [5:37]

Bonus Tracks From 3/24/90 Albany
7. Let The Good Times Roll> [4:01]
8. Help On The Way> [4:05]
9. Slipknot!> [3:50]
10. Franklin's Tower [8:04]
11. Loser [7:30]
12. Tennessee Jed [7:53]

Show #5
Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, Ny (3/30/90)

Disc 1
1. Help On The Way> [4:12]
2. Slipknot!> [5:49]
3. Franklin's Tower [9:39]
4. Little Red Rooster [9:13]
5. Dire Wolf [3:28]
6. It's All Over Now [7:18]
7. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues [6:12]
8. Picasso Moon [7:56]
9. Don't Ease Me In [3:26]

Disc 2
1. Iko Iko [7:07]
2. Playing In The Band> [9:19]
3. China Doll> [5:41]
4. Uncle John's Band> [8:16]
5. Terrapin Station> [12:59]
6. Rhythm Devils [9:48]

Disc 3
1. Space> [11:30]
2. I Need A Miracle> [4:02]
3. Gimme Some Lovin> [4:55]
4. Standing On The Moon> [8:56]
5. Not Fade Away [7:40]
6. Attics Of My Life [5:12]

Show #6
The Omni, Atlanta, Ga (4/2/90)

Disc 1
1. Feel Like A Stranger [8:44]
2. Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo> [7:02]
3. The Weight [6:34]
4. Queen Jane Approximately [6:13]
5. Easy To Love You [5:37]
6. Brown-Eyed Women [5:46]
7. Let It Grow [12:21]

Disc 2
1. Foolish Heart> [9:20]
2. Looks Like Rain> [8:26]
3. He's Gone> [8:59]
4. The Last Time> [5:43]
5. Rhythm Devils [10:42]

Disc 3
1. Space> [9:04]
2. The Other One> [6:24]
3. Death Don't Have No Mercy> [7:37]
4. Around And Around> [3:41]
5. Good Lovin' [7:12]
6. Black Muddy River [6:28]

Wes Lang Talks Grateful Dead


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Joined: Jun 5 2007
Hoping mine arrives before my road trip next week ....

Very excited about this, and will likely receive this before DaP 3 ...

Joined: Jul 9 2007
That was fast

Came today. I never got a shipping notice. Big box for six shows. Lots of "stuff".

simonrob's picture
Joined: Jun 7 2007
Cosmic Badger...

When some poor unfortunate in Barrie Ontario is surprised by the arrival of a USPS flatbed truck with two 40ft. shipping containers, do you think that he or she will have the foresight to forward your oversize order on to you in France? The next question is, of course, will you then be prepared to pay the customs duty on it just to be able to find out what is in those containers? Please keep us up to date on this - this is the most interesting development on here in years!

simonrob's picture
Joined: Jun 7 2007
Joe in Canada

You seem to have got it right regarding tracking (or the lack thereof) of international orders. I checked back to my original order confirmation mail and it only stated "Parcel post". International shipping (to The Netherlands) was $27.95 Does anyone have any idea if that would be UPS or USPS? On to the shipping confirmation mail that I received today: that states that the order was shipped by UPS 2-Day International. The tracking link is also to UPS which cannot find a package with that tracking number. The tracking number is a 7-digit number. Going to the USPS website for tracking reveals a list of possible tracking number formats but no 7-digit format exists. Naturally entering the tracking number comes up blank. The only evidence I have that it has shipped is the shipping confirmation mail and also the fact that today my credit card was charged for the order. That I have been charged for it and that my address etc. on the order info is good are positive signs but I have no idea when and how it will arrive. USPS is easy - if am not at home when they try to deliver, I can pick it up at the local post office (upon payment of customs and import duties). UPS is not so easy - I have to pay them an extra charge for the fact that they handed it to customs but the biggest problem is that if I am not at home (I won't be) then I have to pick it up from their depot which is not close by. Time will tell how this all pans out, I guess.

Joined: Oct 8 2009
re: Canada Spring 90 - Update

Well, called the new call centre to enquire about my tracking number for the Spring 90 box - It appears that for international orders, there is no tracking available. It was not shipped out UPS, as was stated in my shipping email. Nor did my number work on the USPS website. So here we go again. My box set has no record of it's wherabouts. How can this happen again - you think they would have been more careful after the Dave's Picks Vol 3 issues. Just feel sad at the moment.

p.s. where did my tracking number come from - did they just make it up?

Joined: Jul 9 2007
rrot is correct

If you received a tracking number and the link does not work for UPS go to the USPS site and add the tracking number. That is what worked for me. The link on the confirmation email is to UPS but mine is shipping US Postal Service. Easy work around for this issue. Mine to is shipping from Kentucky so it should be a 2 day shipment. Glad these are shipping a week early.

cosmicbadger's picture
Joined: Jun 13 2007

nice one Syracuse!

Joined: Jul 15 2010
I got a notification too but

I got a notification too

but when I check the UPS Tracking number provided, I receive information
about 2 items shipped to Barrie, Ontario Canada weighing 2668.0 pounds! Yes I have doubel checked

Please let it be a simple error and not the start of another mess up. Flashbacks to weeks of trying to recover my E72 box after it was misdirected all over the USA ( I live in France)

Well, at least we finally figured out where all the missing DaP3 packages went! :-)

gratefaldean's picture
Joined: Jun 22 2007
Thanks for the USPS tip, rrot

I really didn't look too carefully at the number, just linked to UPS tracking from the email.

Slapped the tracking number into the USPS tracking system, and there it was is Louisville! Yeehah!

And as for shipping notifications, another big HUH????

Joined: Jun 29 2012
Everyone take a step back

Odd in 2012 we are being offered tangible box sets, seems so 1990's.

I would never think of purchasing something this space taking and paying postage for it however as soon as it is available for digital download I will jump all over it. Great tour. Wish you released the entire thing though....

Keep it coming (faster would be better it took you guys 22years to release this)

9,000 sets X $20 odd for postage, a lot of money better spent than with UPS/FEDEX etc

Joined: Oct 3 2009
Short version

Short version:

If you're clicking that link, in that email you got, and UPS is saying "No such package" -- well, you should copy the package code and try it at USPS instead.

Good luck!

Joined: Oct 3 2009
Please folks!

Now and forever, be advised:

Shipping info from the call center IS NEVER TRUE!

It is made-up, scripted, boilerplate. They NEVER have accurate info there about your order, or anybody else's order.
They will tell you what it says on a generic script, not what's REALLY up with YOUR specific order.


Because they don't know! They only have access to the same web system we do! (If you phone in your order, they put it in through the same interface the public uses!)

It has ALWAYS been that way. Always.

The shipping info emails that you sometimes, but not always, receive are also almost never true!
-Items frequently ship with no notification whatsoever.
-Items arrive, and then the next day a shipping notice is sent.
-Shipping notices are sent with tracking numbers for old, prior orders.

This is the way it has always been. And it ever shall this way be.

This just ain't a real sophisticated operation.

That said, they are good people and they do always come through in the end, in my experience.
I received a shipping notice on this item last night.
THIS TIME it actually has a USPS code in it -- and that code works and it says my item is on it's way to me -- in KY on it's way to NJ!

The funny part is -- there is a UPS delivery link in the email from UPS! And that link says "Huh, what package!??!"

Ah,, you are so beautiful and mysterious! I love you!!!

mk81ting's picture
Joined: Sep 19 2011
overnight shipping

not sure what to think. I did overnight shipping and still haven't received notice on anything here's hoping tho...

gratefaldean's picture
Joined: Jun 22 2007
Shipping notification here, too

UPS ground, though my tracking number isn't showing up in UPS tracking...which means that it really hasn't shipped? Hmmm...

cosmicbadger's picture
Joined: Jun 13 2007
good news and not so good news

I got a notification too

but when I check the UPS Tracking number provided, I receive information
about 2 items shipped to Barrie, Ontario Canada weighing 2668.0 pounds! Yes I have doubel checked

Please let it be a simple error and not the start of another mess up. Flashbacks to weeks of trying to recover my E72 box after it was misdirected all over the USA ( I live in France)

Have sent them a message's hoping

Joined: Apr 23 2008
Some early thoughts

It's nice they shipped early. I'll get to listen to all before I go on the aforementioned vacation. I am not as driven audio ways as some but I do know good sound and this fits the bill. I listened to the 16th very nice. It's good to be reminded of just how good this period was. As for the box set overall I'm falling on the smaller is better side of the discussion. Don't get me wrong ,Rhino puts out quality products and not just the Dead. But I really question how many of the 9000 buyers will put it away and put the shows with their other cds. It is beautiful and even the shipping box is a keeper. Anyway I'm still waiting for the entire Greek shows to be released. Enjoy

outpost's picture
Joined: Jun 11 2007
Early shipping - delayed shipping

I just received a shipping notice over here in the UK for Spring 1990, however I'm still waiting for news on my DaP3 which was sent July 30 !
Waiting for Customer Service to get back on it.
I suppose there will be the usual huge customs bill to pay when they arrive.

Roland Bruynesteyn's picture
Joined: Aug 7 2008
shipping confirmation

arrived in the Netherlands, August 23, 4.00 AM. I have not received DaP 3 yet, that shipped August 1, so no clue about expected time of arrival of the box. Looking forward to it though!

Joined: Oct 8 2009
For Canada orders

Hi, just rec'd my shipping notice email (2 day UPS international) for Spring 90 box set - Well, it appears my Box Set will arrive before my subscription Dave's Vol 3. But that's okay, All In Good Time.

Although, i did try my tracking number on the following carrier link provided, but that did not work - so as of right now, i can't see my details on where it is. But at least it's on the way - hopefully by Friday, but probably Monday


mattthrelkeld's picture
Joined: Jun 18 2008
Shipping Out!!

Just got the email, at 8:54 pm Spring 1990 has left Knoxville TN and is headed to north GA!! I've waited along time to for spring 1990 material to he released! It's on now....

Joined: Mar 18 2010
On it's way...

I received shipping notification today, including a UPS tracking number. I chose standard shipping when it was ordered. I love the early departure for this new Box Set- looking forward to it's arrival- Thank You!

mattthrelkeld's picture
Joined: Jun 18 2008

Hey snafu, did you get a shipping notice? I choose a quicker shipping option as well. Where do you live? I'm hoping mine comes soon, I ordered within the first 30 min

Joined: Apr 23 2008
Early shipping

Yes I got mine this morning. By accident kinda. The original ship date was too close to my vacation to risk so I paid for 2 day ship oh well. It's sounding mighty fine. By the way it was a surprise to me but the Dead were actually members of the British Secret Service. But it makes sense since the Queen was head of the world drug trade (same source). Don't worry I'm not nuts when you get IT you'll get it

Anna rRxia's picture
Joined: Dec 25 2009
Congrats Snafu!

This was supposed to ship at the end of the month and you got yours today! Way to go dude! Happy listening and don't let any of the thorns on the roses catch you when they fly by. Give us a sound quality review since everybody is so opinionated about 2 vs 24 track and the amount of mixing time in the budget for this one.

Joined: Apr 23 2008
2 more cents

I just got mine today. It's a beauty. The book and other things are very nice, but as many people have pointed out will be looked at for a couple of days. I am glad they aren't listening to those who want the junky looking jewell cases. But now excuse me I have some serious listening to do. One more thing they definately don't give the numbers out in order. I bought no more than 15 min. after it went on sale and got # 6247 go figure

Joined: Jun 7 2007
My two cents

I like physical product. I don't like downloads. I like liner notes and pictures that come with a physical product. I don't like the sleeves that Dick's Picks were in and although they are an improvement over those sleeves that were so tight you had to spread them with one hand while you yanked them out with the other, I don't particularly like the Digipacks that Dave's Picks use either. When a hub breaks there's no way to securely hold the disc in place and since they're glued in you can't replace the tray. I know jewel boxes are not "green" but at least the trays were replacable if the hub broke. I don't like these large oversize boxes. They don't fit on my shelves with my other releases and are a storage problem. Even the "So Many Roads", "Winterland June 1973", "Winterland 1973" and "Warlocks" sets can not be stored on their sides on my shelves because they are larger than jewel boxes.

The other thing I don't like is the limited editions. I don't plan on selling my CDs so I don't need them to go up in value. I didn't buy them for investment purposes. I feel sorry for new fans who haven't bought these limited editions because they haven't yet been exposed to the Dead's music and therefore haven't bought these sets and won't be able to buy them in the future. I also feel sorry for the deadheads who can't afford them when they are released and get shut out because they go out of print.

The first Dick's Picks bonus disc came in a sleeve that was wide enough to fit a paper sleeve into it. I placed the bonus disc in a paper sleeve and slipped it into the sleeve the disc came in. The paper sleeve protects the disc and it dosn't fall out. This was the only Dick's Picks bonus disc that was wide enough for a paper sleeve. All the others were tighter. Why can't the sleeves be a little bit wider in order to accomodate an inner sleeve made of paper or plastic and be marketed that way, like a mini LP album? Wouldn't that be less expensive and green?


JeremyP's picture
Joined: Jun 8 2007
Order Status from the UK does not work

For Zip Code, I enter my UK post code (format aann naa, tho' I think ann naa may also be valid {London}). Anyway, the check does not cater for other than zip code format data.

Message returned is "An order could not be found using that order ID and zip code"

simonrob's picture
Joined: Jun 7 2007
Order status update.

The order status check seems to be working again - at least for me (using the same browser as always). I had checked the status of my order shortly after originally placing my order and it worked then. I was checking to see if my order had been placed OK. One can't be too careful here. I reckon! I checked it again a couple of days ago following a post suggesting that orders could not be found - my order (and others, judging by subsequent posts here) also could not be found. Now (5 minutes ago) I tried it again and it gave all the expected info regarding my order. This particular issue seems to have been fixed quickly. Good work, guys!
I have also taken Mary E's advice and sent an e-mail to Dr. Rhino giving all the details of my (subscription) order for "Dave's Picks Volume 3" which has not yet arrived. I hope that the USPS issue on this is resolved just as quickly. We shall see.

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Joined: Feb 6 2008

I sincerely hope that these boxes are shipped WITH tracking numbers, unlike the Dave Pick 3 which, apparently, had no tracking number on the standard shipping . If someone out there is listening-You do not want to roll the dice with $200 dollar boxes. A SNAFU with this one would cost customers and good will not to mention money trying to replace boxes on faith. I have had other USPS snafu experience outside of Dead stuff-no one is minding the USPS store anymore.

scott1129's picture
Joined: Jun 6 2007
Ultra Swag, Spring 90, DaP3, and other s...

Yes the Europe 72: Complete came with the original tour book (so did the album)
but the original ad had stuff like buttons, maps, tour highlights, and band stuff, stickers, posters.

Spring 90 is a very wonderful time for Brent, but of course he's gone less than 6 months later.

DaP3 is great, hang in there they'll get to you.

Order Status and other internet access glitches,
try using a different browser (if your using Explorer, try Firefox, or Chrome or some thing even more obscure.

I have found that some webpages won't load with explorer but work wonderfully with firefox. so ...

marye's picture
Joined: May 26 2007
update on the above

so far tech guys are finding that this seems to be happening in some browsers and not others, so if you're in a hurry on this, try a different browser and see if that helps.

Meanwhile, the investigation continues. Thanks.

hbob1995's picture
Joined: Jun 26 2007
On line order status

I also tried to check my order status on line with no luck. But it is just a glich in the system. I phoned customer service with my order no. and they have it scheduled to ship 8/31, so I would say you guys can chill, all is good. I am pumped for this one. Rock on.

marye's picture
Joined: May 26 2007
reporting this issue

as yeah, one suspects it ain't right!

Joined: Sep 20 2011
Same Here


Got the same thing no order could be found. Thats a little worrying

simonrob's picture
Joined: Jun 7 2007
Order status...

Shortly after I ordered this I checked the order status using the order ID from my order confirmation mail. It worked, Allman's post aroused my curiosity so I have just repeated the operation and got the message that the order could not be found. Draw your own conclusions from this.

Joined: Jul 9 2007
order status?

Has anyone tried the to use the order status? You are required to enter an Order I.D. and zip code. I enter my order confirmation number and the zip code and it cannot find my order. Not sure what the Order I.D. number is because it is nowhere on my printed order confirmation. Only thing listed is the order confirmation number which doesn't work.

Underthevolcano's picture
Joined: Feb 6 2008
somewhat related...

A lot of folks still have not received their Dave's #3 and there has been no official word posted concerning the reason for the shipping problem for that series. Let us hope that whatever happened in that situation is known and has been corrected before the $200.00 sets start being shipped into POSTAL LIMBO. Although , powers that be, just a little light on this subject would be appreciated, I am sure, for those who have not received their Vol. 3.

Joined: Jun 4 2007
Selling out...

In all fairness, the E72 box didn't officially sell out for several months after the reservation preorder started. Many people who reserved their copies got dropped for either not having enough money or not using their special codes. Heck, my copy shipped and arrived before the money was even taken out of my account. This time around, you pay up front. Different circumstances.

I imagine these are selling right on par with anything released. I believe most people who buy these releases through mailorder, like me, buy them all, regardless of era.

Another way to look at it is perhaps because of the oversaturation of '70s releases, lots of people lost interest in preordering this one, but I highly doubt thats the case. $200 bucks is a chunk of change to cough up in relatively short notice, unlike the 9 month advance notice for the E72 box.

Whether they sell out before the ship date or not really doesn't matter. They will sell out regardless.

I'm already looking forward to Spring '90 box Volume two! Brent was and will always be "the man", and the band never rocked harder than any other era period, except when Pigpen was throwing it down in the '60s in my less than humble opinion.

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Joined: Nov 2 2007
too pricey

I almost always reach for '70s Dead when choosing what to listen to but I enjoy the late Brent era also.
I would really like to buy this box but cannot justify spending $200+ on it. The two Winterland boxes were just right...lots of great music and not something I'd have to save up for. And the limited edition thing just sucks for those of us without a ton of disposable income. The "extras" in the box are okay but I'd MUCH prefer an all music version at a lower price. I passed on the Hampton box because I didn't want to spend $20 on a cigar box.
I don't understand why a tour from '90 (which was a good year but certainly not close to the highs of the 70s) gets a six show box while the Winterland boxes had three shows each. It's understandable that Rhino will try to maximize their profit but I just want to say that there are many of us out here who could more easily spend less than $100 on a box. Also, why not make the physical discs available for purchase? I can't buy this $200 box but would love to buy a show or two; don't you want my money?

Joined: Jun 4 2007

Not "all of those," Anna.....I vociferously voiced my wish for mid-80's before any more '70's (sans '70 itself) ~ and will continue to ~ but I'm still psyched about this and ordered it on the first day.

Scott, you forget (as most folks seem to) or otherwise fail to acknowledge the 32-page exact reprint of the Europe '72 tour book ("Book of the Dead"), which came in the E72 trunk in addition to the 100-page hardbound book. And which is brimming with time-capsule text, with period commentary from all the band members, even Pigpen (how often do you read him talking about Woodstock and excitedly about the current tour?). I thought that was a pretty cool piece of swag.

One Man, I'm with you on never being enamored of the Midi proliferation in '89-'90 ~ I'd rather Jerry's guitar sound like a guitar than a french horn ~ but the band clearly had fun with it, and if they were having fun then they were musically engaged. Leave it to the Grateful Dead for their version of "flavor of the month" to mean experimenting with new sounds.... Rather than donning jackets with rolled-up sleeves! (Yes, Graham Nash, I'm looking at you : )
But this illumines another argument for the mid-80's: the last moment before those other sounds infiltrated, but still years enough into Brent's tenure that the band had gelled.... Just sayin'.

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Joined: Dec 25 2009
No sell out before shipping starts

Though there is still over a week left, and it is not out of the realm of possibility, it looks quite sure that this deluxe six show edition will not sell out before the ship date. I guess all of those vociferously advocating for other eras than the 70s didn't put their money where their mouth is. I think we will have a lot more 60s and 70s to look forward to in the future. Not such a bad thing....

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Joined: May 17 2011
The "New Guy"

Thanks, halloweendeadhead. You echo my own mixed feelings about Brent. All but one of my 30-plus shows were during his tenure and I struggled with those same questions the whole time. I bailed out when the sea of cheese became too thick. That sentiment has not changed even now. I'll have mixed feelings about this box when I hear it. I wish Bob Bralove had never been allowed to get his paws on the gear except for a few space segments. I know most or all of the band embraced MIDI technology. Now we see it was a flavor of the month proposition and thank goodness the post-Dead have not used it much.

I'm glad you found Brent literate and kind. That's how I want to remember him.

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Joined: Jun 6 2007
Past Releases and Swag

A valid point about the extras included with these music releases.
Dick's Picks One was released as a single size, double cd jewel case.
Two was a single cd in a jewel cd case.
Three was a single size, double cd jewel case.
Four was a double size, three cd jewel case.
as were all the following 32 releases.
One From The Vault was a digipack with trays for the cd (similar to the Dave's Picks series)
Two From The Vault was also release in this manner
Both are now available in single size, double cd jewel cases.
The Terrapin Station Limited Edition 3/15/90 release was
released as a digipack but with an outer sleeve to hide the package info. (Also had a fold out feature to create a stand up)
View From The Vault was a double sized, three or four cd jewel case with the DVDs in standard plastic dvd cases.
The Vault series, (2/11/69, Ladies and Gentleman..., Steppin' Out, Dozin', GD Movie soundtrack) were jewel cases.
then the Egypt set was released as a paper folder with a fold out pyramid and some swag.
The To Terrapin '77 set was a paper folder.
Crimson, White and Indigo was a paper folder.
The First Box was the So Many Roads set and was in a cloth bound box with a book to hold the cds.
The next box is the Golden Road box which is a large box with the cd's in digipacks with trays and a large booklet.
The next box is Beyond Description the same format as the previous release.
The next box is the Fillmore West 1969 complete a box with the cd's in a book.
The next box is the Winterland 1973 set in a box with paper folders for the cd's, and some swag
The next box is the Winterland 1977 set in a box with paper folders and some swag
The next box is the Europe 1972 tour Complete. advertised as a replica steamer trunk (paper box) with tour mementos.
Travel maps, buttons, stickers, other stuff but we got none of that just the book and the cds and some cheap swag.
but hey 73 cds for 600 out stand ing deal but the cd were in paper folders
The Road Trips Series all released in paper folders.
Dave's Picks are in digipacks with plastic cd trays. Plus a booklet with a cool essay and some photos.
This is what we want.
Individual shows released at a modest rate. (Eight shows per year)
(if you want to hear all the shows before you die, hit up and join a vine)
In Digipacks with some nice essay or historical documentation and photos.
No more limited releases as this just encourages the scalpers.
(If I am fallen on hard times (any one else) and can not afford this box of Spring 90
why am I denied the joy of the music at a later time when I am able to afford this luxury,
I can buy the Dicks Picks series still but the Dave's Picks are gone.)
Make Music, Not Swag.

Joined: Jan 3 2011
11 days

It will be 11 days or less before the box is shipped. Thought there might be more posts with shipping date so soon. dave's picks 3 which I recieved on the 6th sent from california to pa under the free shipping option might be causing some anxiety among thoses who are still waiting. The europe 72 box was shipped from pa near scanton. I wonder if the box will ship from pa or ca and if it makes a difference for those not sixty miles from scranton. I think sales have slowed down and the box won't sell out until after it ships. The e72 box gave people 9 months or so to come up with the money. The spring box was less than half the price but it is not easy to explain to your wife or girlfriend that you just spent 220 dollars on a cd. Will the next d pick be the 80s or a pigpen release. everything from 70 has been a home run so far. I know a lot from 70 is not in the vault becuse of bears legel problems but would love to see more 1970 truely a time of transition.

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Joined: Aug 20 2007
Smaller Packaging Please!

All I want is the music on CD in the smallest packaging possible. I would have preferred if these shows had been in a simple slipcase box with a CD-sized booklet (like 'Fillmore West 1969'). That would be simple, efficient, and would greatly reduce the price for each unit. Large packaging is a nuisance and the swag is not important -- usually looked at once and forgotten. I know you are trying to make nice products and we are grateful for that, but the space these things take up is a concern. Please be courteous and reduce the packaging size in the future to something more manageable and convenient. That would also reduce the price for each unit which would make the music more accessible to fans. The music is what we want -- the swag and big boxes, not so much.

Joined: Jan 13 2010
unrelated topic again, BUT...

Sweet Fudge! The Grateful Dead are on the Top 40 albums list in Rolling Stone! DaP3 is #34!

I seriously can't believe it. On the same list as Justin Bieber, Kenny Chesney, Katy Perry, ad nauseum. Even has a picture of the GD early 80's.

Goes to show, you don't ever know.

"Truly, truly weird." (paraphrased from Jerry comments 2/27/69.)

Joined: Aug 3 2009
Not one shakedown.

Whats up with that?

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Joined: Jul 25 2011

Thanks halloweendeadhead- I appreciate your post. I really loved Brent's playing when I saw it live in the early 80's. Later on, I began to sour on it and then gave up altogether. Recordings of the early 80's didn't seem to "hold up" very well, also. Now, I'm kind of glad I ignored this period since it makes this release all the more exciting. Re-listening now to what spring 90 material I have has really been something of a revelation.
As for Brent's songs, I must say I think I'll always abhor "I Will take you Home". I was relieved that tune is missing from this set! ;) On the other hand, I seem to be one of the few who champion "Don't Need Love"- one of the best Dead originals from the 1980's, IMO.
14 more days!

Joined: Aug 5 2009
Palmer, you spoke about Brent...

We share the age range, and I remember so well the Brent debate among the cacophony of the masses. It so quickly rose to biblical proportions that even Heads' heads were spinning. Heads struggled to figure out what , precisely, were the collective issues within the waves of disapproval. Singing voice? Character of his lyrics? His composed music holding up those lyrics? His song(s) as one package? The amount of time that the band alloted him during the show? His input by way of back-up vocals in the Band's songs, where his voice was previously not heard? All of it? None of it? Something else? I struggled with it back then, and it's not much easier in reflection.
But Palmer, you''ve got a very right point and I'm glad to see that you've brought it up. Brent's overal contributions as an instrumentalist in the Band were inspired, energizing, and hot.
And I want to add from experience that, backstage, he was a friendly kind, gentle, and delightfully literate person and highly likeable.
So,... moving on to the next release!.

Joined: Feb 3 2012

Double-posted by accident. Please disregard this online faux pas.