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Loser>Playing In The Band
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A couple of songs from forthcoming solo albums, and which would remain a part of the live repertoire for the next nearly-25 years
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"Loser," from Jerry's first solo record, and "Playing In The Band," from Bob's Ace album as well as the Dead's Skull & Roses (and Mickey's Rolling Thunder), were important parts of the Dead's repertoire steadily until 1995.
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A couple of songs from forthcoming solo albums, and which would remain a part of the live repertoire for the next nearly-25 years
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Loser>Playing In The Band

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bullshit on #21

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I call shenanigans!!

Is this the first time there was no winner?

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that was fun! I love that version of Eyes....reggae organ. Congrats ","...I don't feel alone!

I agree about the venue...it doesn't sound like a live show and the count in is very similar to the 08/01/73 clip on archives. And they would have had to flown out there during recording sessions....possible...maybe not....maybe.....

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That was absolutely asinine. There's no way the Dead were in Long Island on that date. I throw the BS flag, pick it up, and throw it again, only harder this time.

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Loser / Losers, sore at that. Great one!

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Their last show before recording WotF was Roosevelt Stadium - Jersey City on 8/1 and they didn't play any shows until five weeks later. So, no, it wasn't a show or a soundcheck. They were probably testing different iterations in an empty venue before hitting the studio with the final draft.

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much quicker all around. made it too easy
still rockin chunk of tunes.
slow down dave its going to fast.
or maybe a bonus second month? you know, cause of how f*d up things are

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No way they flew to NY during the recording period! Even IF it was possible, too much else doesn't sync up.
I'm guessing 8-8-73 may be right and I think I'll just change the venue to Sausalito, CA, Studio Outtake/The Record Plant.

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I got the date correct with a little luck but would've went for the Record Plant in Sausalito if that was an option. I always wondered it Keith played the organ on the final studio track. If so, this outtake was most likely recorded earlier on because the one on the album (and the one on archive.org) has a much tastier take by Keith like he had learned the intricacies of the B3 a bit more and developed his part by later in the recording session. Thanks for the tunes Dave!

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MaryE. if u read this, 1st off i hope u & yours are doing well & are staying safe during these wacky times...

a small request: can we please get some clarification on that venue being Nassau Coliseum??
the GD played Nassau Coliseum on 9/8/73 ie a month after that supposed date of 8/8/73 so clearly that Eyes Of The World ain't from Nassau, no chance...
in these days of rampant fake news, to quote JL, just Gimme Some Truth, all we want is the Truth...
Thank You Kindly in advance... ♤

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There was one possible giveaway heard in the song yesterday at the very beginning during Jerry’s count off and silence you can hear slight “crowd chatter, maybe engineer” in the background of the song. If they recorded 8/4-8/15 at the Plant, I placed them at Bob’s Ace studios the day before since there was no option? Those Nassau shows were a month later?? Learned a lot about the Dead’s rehearsal spaces though, throughout the Bay area thinking to myself, I’ve been there back when I lived in Marin. I’ve also partied (even slept) at the Plant Studios and let me tell you, those walls have the vibes you can feel, including the woofers in the floor. Heart.

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We were all "Losers" yesterday. I came very close on the date, but was only about 3000 miles off on the venue...
I got no chance of losing this time. Rock and Roll!
I don't trust to nothing, But I know it come out right
If a man among you Got no sin upon his hand
Let him cast a stone at me For playing 30 Days of Dead!
IMGR8FL

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Likewise on your comments. Enjoy the game today. It should be a competitive one. 7-2 Pack vs. the 6-3 Colts. Looks like they're playing in Indy. Late in the afternoon, early evening game, too. :-)

P.S. Still not a robot. Whew! I was having doubts.

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On Beyond Description there is a China Doll listed as 8-8-73 from The Record Plant, Sausalito, Ca. I would suppose that is the correct venue for this version of Eyes as well.

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Good thought here. Maybe some folks may have had it correct after all! :-)

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Always a great way to start the day - coffee and 30 Days of Dead! Yesterday was a head scratcher for sure, today much more straight forward. "Teach them Froggies how to dance, Keep on dancin', sing the tune, We'll be dancin' all around the moon"

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the show's location...not much psychedelia or even a space in this show...Real Countrified

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Not sure why it's labeled ">" when there's literally a minute or more of Dead air. That has always been a pet peeve of mine in setlists. Anyway, back on track today with Sweet Susie and the new guy.

Can we still get a live Eyes this year?

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Who doesn't love to listen to Eyes of The World all day? But the Nassau 8/8/73 venue / date leaves a lot of unanswered questions. Since no one got it right it appears that this recording does not exist in circulation, so Dave, can you give us a little more info? This track sure sounds like it was recorded in a studio environment; is there a studio at Nassau Coliseum? All sources I could find say that Wake of the Flood was recorded 8/1/73 through 8/15 /73 at Record Plant. Did they just pop on over to NYC to record for a day? This just doesn't seem to make sense. Please fill us in Dave!! But that was yesterday, now on to today's task. Love this game and will miss it come 12/1!

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There might be a flag on the field.. yep there is.
It looks like the officials might need to review that last play.

Liner notes on Wake of The Flood state the band was at the Record Plant in Sausalito, CA on 8/8/73 recording China Doll.
However yesterdays pick is labeled as Nassau Coliseum in Uniondale, NY on 8/8/73.

Let's look at the tape.

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Great, chill groove on this pair. Nice vocal stylings by the boys too. Who is Susie anyway? I know at a certain point Jerry stopped singing that line. I wonder if she ever crossed his mind.

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This is a masterpiece of a show from start to finish. One you'd listen to for days before moving on to the next. The sound is powerful. All and all the boys played hard to make this what it is.

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Per my Dead Base, shows they were recording Wake of the Flood in August 1973 and then the next two shows were Nassau Coliseum on 9/7 & 9/8 of 1973 - so perhaps a typo on date and possibly a sound check or something from Nassau. They played Eyes> Sugar Mag to end set 2 on 9/7 & Eyes> China Doll to end set 1 on 9/8.....

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Wow I actually had the right date, too bad they apparently recorded the album in a concert venue and no one knew about it....

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I put 8/7 but was looking for the Sausalito connection suspect I'll be back on track today.

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The one nugget I did find interesting was Betty’s reels from the WoTF sessions were labeled San Rafael not Sausalito.

I look forward to hearing the story behind this one!

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today synced up so beautifully...thought it would take hours but the hint literally narrowed it down....while time signatures didnt quite work on this "combo", (many choices were similar), when it synced for me with relisten it was just awesome.
after numerous years i think i might b getting better at this..lol

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Always baffled by the pure hate for the MP3's .... Do they sound as good ? No of course not. I have loads of vintage Macintosh and Marantz audio gear and vinyl for days. Tube amp and an LP sound the best hands down. But a MP3 played through a decent set up works just fine when I'm tinkering around the house ... and it is pretty EZ way to access and organize my collection. Lighten up on the free stuff folks and smile , smile , smile!

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Wow that was a long series of misfire guesses. But finally got it. Again did not know how many times this combo happened. Listening for what is not there (at times) is the key.

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I will pass your inquiries up the line!
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Thanks, Mary! We all await THE word from above!

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Ya gotta be a native to tell the difference between an amphibian and a reptile . . . notable tour, clue narrowed it down considerably, 2nd guess & nailed it, Super F

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Woohoo, I won! I can't believe none of you heard about them flying out East in the middle of the WOTF sessions to record a studio outtake in Nassau Coliseum!?! Losers! :)

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well played...
that post & some MoonBow 112 from Archive has me all kinds-a giggly...

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Indeed something has been edited there .........

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indeed .. makes me wonder if the official release was also ... (kind of a hint, I suppose ;-)
and yes (as someone already pointed out) .. should not be a " > ", but instead a " .... "

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There is a story about Sweet Suzy and how in this version she’s only in one verse of this Loser. And playin seems to be missing someone screaming at the top of their lungs. Good luck friends.

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Sort of...

Venue - We have an official change to “yesterday’s answer” in fact it was “The Record Plant” which they holed up in 8.6 - 8.15 of ‘73. Some great stories in print from those sessions deep in the interwebs.

Date - ‘Beyond Description’ offered up a few outtakes as follows.

- 8.7.73 ‘Loose Lucy’
-8.8.73 ‘China Doll’
-8.11.73 ‘Unbroken Chain’

Also on that release we see outtakes of ‘Pride of Cucamonga’ and ‘Weather Report Suite’ from 8.4.73, maybe from The Record Plant. I came across some Betty Boards labeled “ca. Aug-early Sep 'WAKE OF THE FLOOD Studio Out-takes, San Rafael, CA” so maybe it was from there.

So for now the mystery remains unsolved, but we are bound to uncover just a little more ground.

Thank you, for a real good time!

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We all knew it was the Record Plant, but it wasn't on the drop down so I said unknown, unknown recording session. I guessed 8/11, but I know there were people who guessed 8/8 so you deserve to count the answer correctly. I'm giving myself partial credit!

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There's a note below from Mary (marye) and she's on it (yay!), so watch closely. I suspect we'll be hearing an update soon about yesterday's Eyes quandary. Crazy fingers crossed.

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I loved hearing that organ with some swing comping on yesterday's "Eyes..."
Sounded more like Merl Saunders than Keith Godchaux to my ears.
Different players have a different attack, choice of notes/chords, feel, swing etc.
The way the keyboard player was rhythmically hitting right from the beginning reminded me of Merl.
I mean it is most likely Keith for sure according to date, studio records, official band member status. It just sounds so much like Merl's touch and tone.
I would have loved to hear them play it like that. Not that I did not love the way they played Eyes and how it evolved over the decades.
But that version really had some life in it.

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    sas81
    11 months ago
    pretty cool hint in this Loser (Location)

    I really like the early versions of Loser. Hunter was a master storyteller.

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    ever grateful
    11 months ago
    Yay . . . #21 is fixed!

    Thanks Ace333 for the heads up!
    As always, thanks, MaryE!!! Sure appreciate your help!
    And thanks, Dave! . . . . you can't slip one by us!! ;-)

  • berman.
    11 months ago
    “Looosey !” (I meant) “Luuuucyyy !”

    Dave’s laughlin’ all the way to the vault (how easy it was to rattle a bunch of ole hippies ;-)