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    Re; the "Welnick/Kadlicek" post
    I've seen them a few times over the years and i got the idea that they are more of a revolving door than a disposable band. It may just be the times and order of the shows i've seen but i got the idea that it's who is free, who's in the country / in town, who does what is happening that particular go-around.
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    Good Morning Little Schoolgirl
    The things that pop into your head at times: listening to Bob sing this one in Cary last week, my first thought was a common lament for me -- wishing that I'd had a chance to see Pigpen just once. But as Bobby was singing the "I'm a schoolboy too" lines, I started laughing, as the idea that ANYONE is going to mistake Weir for a schoolboy nowadays is just plain comical. I mentioned it to the guy standing next to me, who said, "Well, maybe like a non-traditional college student, ya think?" So we both riffed back to the song: "Tell your momma and your papa, I'm a non-traditional schoolboy too." Smile, smile, smile... And if the show proved nothing else to me: Jeff Chimenti is on fire, and my oh my do those harmony vox sound absolutely lush! UJB, Here Comes Sunshine, vocally have never sounded better to me...a case of the band more than living up to the source material.
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    I saw them at Simpsonville last year and at Wanee this year. Those shows were great. Caught the Cary show and it was a little weak overall. Of course there were some good sparks but on the whole it was a bit flat. Everyone seemed tired.
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    I'm listening to 1970-03-21 right now. Way more fun than last night in Cary NC. They played real good. I was real bored. Jazzy jams are great and I love that to a point. WTF look at the closing songs and encore selection. How do you end a concert with "the days in-between" ? Oh no, they warmed up to it with that smoker, "a foolish heart" and encored with, Box of Rain. I love Furthur. If I encountered many shows like i did last night in Cary, NC, I would just stop going. This 1970 show has so much soul and rock n' roll that I'm uplifted. Last night was a flat tire just lookin' for the offramp. PS: great crowd, way fun
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    wow
    pretty great setlist!
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    FURTHUR was FANTASTIC!Caught the Philly Show and it was a Rockin' Time! I find it amazing, the diligent care each song finds in the hands of these awesome musicians. Hearing Phil and Bob masterfully drive the music into the capable hands of band-> it's remarkable. The moments they let go to let them ride musical heights then jump back in like a whirl wind and put in all back into context was incredible, to me. The crowd was a great heart of gold band, it reached a favorite choir status several times; and wow it was special to say the least! Philly was present and accounted for! It was so hot and even so they kept on dancing. If there were a party to be at; the Mann Center was IT on 7-7-2012! Thank you for a real good time! I do believe there is more in store, xo! I love this band. Way to go! May the road rise to meet you--------- and the wind be always at your backs. All the best wishes are heading your way--- Love to You, All...ALL! Rock ON! I Love You oh but Jesus Loves You the Best! Set List 7/7/2012 FURTHUR Set 1 Truckin'> Nobody's Fault but Mine Fire on the Mountain> Cassidy Peggy O Tennessee Jed My Brother Esau Deal Set 2 China Cat Sunflower> I Know You Rider> Space> Dark Star> (v1) Jam> Dark Star> (v2) Caution Don't Step on the Tracks Saint Stephen Unbroken Chain Dear Prudence The Wheel> GDTRFB> We Bid You Goodnight Donor Rap E - One More Saturday Night
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    Tour opener in Pawtucket
    A hot (93 degrees) afternoon commenced at 3:30pm as about 1000 waiting people piled into the parking lot. Shakedown was in full growl in the dusty, unpaved parking lots in about fifteen minutes. Numerous vendors were happy, if not exactly busy despite the size of the crowd. There was very little hassle from McCoy Stadium security. The attitude was whimsical: "This is what it is these days, about 4 hours before the show and about a half hour after." Attitudes were as sunny as the sky as many old friends met up after the journey to the venerable triple A minor league baseball park. Furthur came out and did a sound check at about 4:30. Amazing how they can just launch into a jam at will... The show was crowded, though not sold out. The stadium holds 10,000 and the grandstand was about half filled with the entire outfield almost packed from wall to wall for the general admission show with the band's stage set up in deep center field. If the paid attendance wasn't 10k it was damn near close for the GA event. Temps. came down significantly after twilight and settled into the high 70s for the rest of the show, with a decent breeze. The boys came out at 7:15pm and launched into a nice Dancin' that segued cleverly into a spry Shakedown that was tasty and morphed into Jack Straw. All in all a nice way to open the tour. Bob did a nice job on BT Wind. JK shined on Reuben & Cherise. The Last Time had a nice beat to it reminiscent of All Over Now. 70 minutes of music for the 1st set ended with a passable Casey Jones that had all the flourishes but not the insanely fast ending Furthur is known for, though the pace did pick up. The second set set was tasty with a Golden Road opener. That's It>Other One>That's It was very nice. Phil still gives a hint of the old days when he revs it up for the O1 intro. Bob throws a nice SOTM ballad and then Furthur does a great job of jamming Hey Pocky Way which to my ears was the highlight of the second set. Uncle John's Band was a sweet ending to the first show on the tour. 2nd set timed in at 90 minutes. The shows are 20-30 minutes shorter but it seemed to be about just right on this mid-summer eve. I had a great time seeing old friends drop in from out of the woodwork and hanging with "T-Shirt Tommy" who was hawking beer and soda and water and woman's t-shirts under a canopy. It is not the same as a Grateful Dead show. Nothing ever can be, but it definitely has all the elements of "Grateful Dead Liite" and you have to love the band for that.
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    great report!
    sounds like a lovely time.
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    Welnick/Kadlicek
    I feel now, more than ever, after reading about how Bralove, by Jerry's order, collared Welnick by not allowing him to have the instrument of his choice on tour that Bob & Phil have collared John Kadlicek. Not by not allowing him to have the guitar of his choice, but by making him play a subservient role to them in the band. They will not allow him to get in front of them in any meaningful way with creative soloing. JK is more than capable, as he showed in the first dozen or so shows after Furthur kicked off. I blame Bob more than anybody for this, as he seems to have control of things on stage. But, fairly, Jerry set the precedent with Welnick. It seems to be a highly personal thing. It's not necessarily that you have to preserve a memory. I think a commitment to excellence in the genre of music you are playing is more important than building memorial shrines. I certainly feel that way as a ticket holder. Whatever, they certainly have the right to do what they want and I have the right to choose if I will go to a show. I'll do one more this summer and then done. I think what Bill & Micky are doing with disposable line-ups is more honorable and transparent than the kind of aping Furthur is doing. It's just sad. They have all the machinery there to give us a fantastically good time.
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    the best comment ever!Are you on the Furthur forum? Furthur.net Thanks again. very nice
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I don't know about that. It would be like calling a certain british band The Rolling Stones if either Mick Jagger or Keith Richards were to leave it. When Jerry Garcia left, the Grateful Dead was over. What the remaining members of that band do in the future can't be called that and this is largely why they have not toured under that name since 1995. "When it comes to humility, I'm the greatest!" - Bullwinkle Moose
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... has been retired to honor Jerry Garcia and the entity that toured for 30 years with 5 core members. Stardom and fame were brought to those who took up the burden of the dead beings still wandering in the bardo (the space between death and rebirth). Those beings still have power to influence from that state. When Phil opened up the dictionary on that fateful day in 1965 and opened up to that entry and put his finger on "Grateful Dead" he sealed the deal. Whether the name is used exactly as it is or not, there will always be musicians who are more or less doing wandering expired beings a favor and having that favor returned more than 100 fold. No wonder the GD did so well on the days of Halloween and celestial events such as solstice. Whether or not any of the above is true, it is usual and customary to retire the name of any long-running entity when it ceases to exist in a fundamental way from what it was. It's a sign of respect. Carrying the burden of the dead, allowing them to experience vicarious thrills through the still living is a wonderful and awesome burden. The Grateful Dead pulled it off with style.
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Understood...Furthur it is...
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for what its worth, which may not be much, but here it is. I feel that the name Grateful Dead should be retired. Jerry Garcia is a musician of the importance of Mozart, Bach or Coltrane. This music would not exist without him. The Grateful Dead does not exist without him. However, the music he was such an integral part of is too important to be relegated to the past. It needs to continue. Like all great art it has too much to say to let it die. My 2 favorite names of the post Garcia era have been The Other Ones and Furthur (these were coincidentally my favorite post Jerry incarnations of the music). The Other Ones denoted that the remaining band members were still here and the music was still vital. Furthur denotes that the music is being carried on into the future. These names, both of which have historical significance to the scene, indicate that Jerry is no longer physically with us but his genius lives on. Long live Jerry and long live the music!
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As hard as it was Zepplin did the right thing when John Bohnam left us, they disbanded Zep. John Bohnam was the engine for that band with his hard bluesy drumming which could not be duplicated. Unlike The Who who have been on 2 or 3 farwell tours, it kinda leaves a bad taste in your mouth when they call it quits then show up next year. I fell blessed with the shows that I saw with Jerry and I think Billy, Mickey, Phil and Bobby have done the right thing with The Other Ones, Furthur and Billy and Mickeys drum projects. We can all be thankful they all just did'nt Fade Away.......
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If any of you going to Angels Camp & camping, there's RV hookups @ the Sonora County fairgrounds. It's a nice place & not too far from Angels Camp. Looks like from Furthur's website, you'd need a car to bring into Mt.Aire. If anyone knows how to post this on philzone, please do so.....have fun
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Weeeeeeeeee, now it's Furthur for sure. Gathering of the Vibes Headliner ~ Furthur Furthur Site Pretty much the whole family is gonna be there! Rythym Devils, Donna Jean, NRPS, David Gans, Steve Kimock, and many more! The aforementioned Primus as well. _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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you might find some discussion in the Favorite Summer Festival topic. I've gotta say, that's a pretty great lineup!
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For some reason forgot about that thread._____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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Hey Mary, Can we have an all inclusive Furthur~Festivals Topic in that forum? I looked and found a few things on gathering but not much. Since they are playing a bunch of them, how about a topic that is all inclusive with Furthur Fest, All Good, Gathering of the Vibes, Nateva, and what ever other fests they happen to hop on this summer. I've always liked festivals because of the diversity factor, many good bands I love, and the family fun camping time. _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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lemme see what I can figure out.
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But it would be nice to not have to make a 3000 mile road trip and have to take a week or 2 off work to go. The music "festivals" here are lame to say the least and never include camping. "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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That's it!!! I need to become a music promoter!!! "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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Then we can take the whole family along for all the festivals...Good plan. The only other idea I had was to win the lottery and I promised everyone here that if I did, I would buy a Leer Jet and Tour Bus strictly for the Dead.net family. Then we could pick everyone up across the country/world, and tour. hahaha~I let you know how that works out when I'm 90. _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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Why not call them the Grateful Dead ??? My opinion is if you would do that....there's always the possibility of Too Many People showing up for the shows again... We do not need the Gatecrashers around again!! i think they are doing the right thing by staying under the radar of national attention!
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I am curious to know if the girls are still gonna be singing with Furthur this summer???? I thought they added so much to the music, the harmonies were right on. Sometimes, the band had a JGB element to it, when they would bust out an After Midnight or Dear Prudence, w/ John and the girls singing behind him.. Gonna be sad if they wont be tagging along for this one.. Its almost like the Grateful Dead when Mickey Hart left the band, they were a much more basic unit, at least until Keith arrived. But, i have no doubts that the band can pull its own.. They are so awesome on so many levels.... They really need to release a Double Live CD w/ the Gratest Moments of the Winter Tour. So much good stuff to choose from....
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I really enjoy the girlz Sunshine and Zoe....I think they add just enough to cover up the semi fainted voices we have from just the boyz just getting older. And they compliment the youngster quite nicely as well. I'm pretty darn sure they are helping with the summer tour, I do know I haven't heard differently. Anyone else heard anything? I mean besides a baby or a family disaster, I think they are gonna be there. _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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FURTHUR "Live Rehearsal Sessions"Monday May 24th and Tuesday May 25th at the The Palm Ballroom, 100 Yacht Club Drive, San Rafael, CA Doors: 6:30 PM / Showtime: 8:00 PM. All ages permitted for this show. Furthur~Go to Furthurmore Friday _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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should be great!
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The setlist was sweet and it answered some questions. Compliments of the Philzone and the poster was first posted by Canyon (not me) and the setlist is compliments of Rob Scalcione (Rscalcione) both cool zoners. Rehearsal Poster Furthur Rehearsal Sessions The Palm Ballroom San Rafael, CA Mon. May 24, 2010 8:30pm - 10:50pm Happy Birthday JC Juanis Shakedown Street > Good Lovin' Mississippi Half Step > Brown Eyed Women Cumberland Blues Althea Looks Like Rain The Wheel > Reuben & Cerise > Uncle John's Band Scarlet Begonias > Fire On The Mountain Back up singers: Sunshine Garcia Becker & also Jeff Pehrson who is from the duo Box Set. So to answer someones question from before....so far it looks like Jeff Pehrson is gonna replace Zoe Ellis for now (don't know for sure but I think she's having a baby). John K. sung a ton of the songs too, and from what I hear Joe Russo played really, really well solo! _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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going 2nite so I will post this evenings set list when I get back!
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Correction: Furthur Rehearsal Sessions The Palm Ballroom San Rafael, CA Tues. May 25, 2010 8:30pm - 10:50pm After Midnight Bertha Speedway Playin Eyes Stephen Eleven Unbroken Chain Fantasy Truckin Smokestack Lightning Truckin E:Ripple
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Looking forward to the boys playin' in my home town and I hope they record their own show for downloads cause the official word from the organizers of the fest say that NO audio taping is allowed.............sorry y'all
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I wouldn't think that the organizers of a ferstival would have any say on taping. Plus why would they care? To allow taping or not should be up to the band. "Lazy lightning you say you never strike the same place. I want a double dose in any case ... You got to hear my supplication. Got to hear me now. A little bolt of inspiration"
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They're tight-assed in the capital... wanna keep a leash on everything. Even things they have no say about...
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you say it K!
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Since it has 5 stages outside and 1 inside they are probably worried that other bands will be taped. Welcome to the goverment town...........also kown as suckin' central.............
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I've never had much love for that bureaucratic town, too conservative for my tastes. They don't understand what it means to give it away... gotta account for it in the budget! No, seriously, I've played a few good shows there and the cultural community is pretty alive in Ottawa, but the vibe of the town has always creeped me out. They get all that extra funding for being the capital and all...
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Runs/controls/manages music festivals? That is creepy! "Lazy lightning you say you never strike the same place. I want a double dose in any case ... You got to hear my supplication. Got to hear me now. A little bolt of inspiration"
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The goverment or "The Man" as we say does not run, manage or control this festival. It is run by a seperate private group that started the festival in 1994. Altough this festival gets funding from the goverment cause it is a huge tourisim draw and some acts cost a lot of money to play. Dylan played a couple of years ago and I heard that his cost was $500,000. The last couple of years they have also put on free shows in our downtown market with some big names, one good free show this year will be Taj Mahal.
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to go a little Furthur,than I've gone. See ya'll real soon! --------------------(---@ Peace, SherBear
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I'm taking the family (my wife and I, and 2 boys: 9 and 12) to the Lowell, MA show later this month and am wondering what to expect in the parking lot. I went to 70 or 80 shows between '79 and the passing of Jerry, and to me the parking lot was always almost as enjoyable as the concert. But I've since been on "hiatus", and I don't know what the current scene is like. I remember that, as it got into the 90's, things were degenerating, with lots of yahoos and nitrous and whatnot. The plan is to show up 2 or 3 hours early,do some tailgating, and enjoy the people. This is an early, 6 o'clock show, outdoors, general admission at a minor league ball park and I'm guessing that it will be relatively family friendly, but am looking for comments and reassurance. Also. my 12 year old would like to set up a little table and try to hawk some really cool wallets that he has been making out of duct tape. Will he be hassled by the powers that be? What do you all think?
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Check out the new tour!!!! on the furthur site. Jackstrawfromcolorado can you say Red Rocks 2 nights??? Love it man!!! This band is on fire. There's a dragon loose on the town Takes a whole pail of water just to cool him down Fire! Fire on the mountain!!
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And yes I can say .... 2 nights on the rocks!!!!!!!!!! Maybe now I can stop kicking myself for missing mnt aire!! "Lazy lightning you say you never strike the same place. I want a double dose in any case ... You got to hear my supplication. Got to hear me now. A little bolt of inspiration"
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jackstraw and deadturtle - they heard you! They're coming to your beautiful backyard. Wish I could join!
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You should get your passport ready, take care of what you need to take care of, and make some travel plans to Colorado! :-) "Lazy lightning you say you never strike the same place. I want a double dose in any case ... You got to hear my supplication. Got to hear me now. A little bolt of inspiration"
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Finally, only 20 days left till summer tour kickoff right here in our beautiful little Highland Bowl! Welcome Deadheads from near and far to Rochester! 26 years on the bus and still enjoyin' the ride!!
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Ok, I am going to try and avoid the superlatives, of which there are so many that I have trouble coming up with enough good things to say. Without a doubt, the band is just getting more and more in "the groove". Three days of insanely great music - if you haven't heard about that late night set after the so-called day one "sound check" (more like sound wreck my head, build it back, and then topple it again just for the fun of it) then allow me to elaborate. Start with Viola Lee, then segue into a couple of tunes, then back to Viola, but wait... switch out the bass and lead guitars for a different duo to come back into Viola, going from Phil and Jackie Green to Jackie taking up the bass with Bobby playing guitar, then back to Viola after a couple more songs until Jorma and Jack come out to play with Bob and close it after a few more great Hot Tuna standards with the final Viola verse. Just insane. If anyone knows where I can find the tape of that set then please hit me up... timlake at homegrownvideo dot com. Looks like just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back IN!!! Summer tour, here I come. Just counting my blessings that I am fortunate enough to be able to take my laptop out and keep my day job... Farrell Timlake president, Homegrown Video timlake@homegrownvideo.com
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I've been perusing the archives for some time now and listening to Bojangles this past winter blew me away. Phil is singing his heart out here folks. The Box of Rain almost gave me a nervous breakdown about my recently passed away mother. Phil you warlock! It's not nice or fair to unleash the power of this song on unsuspecting people! Even people who suspect! But thank you for the current ride. Nuthin' left to do but :), :0, :)
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Hoping to join you in Rochester. Coming from Toronto by boat - perfect way to escape the G20! I'll have to see about Red Rocks, Jack. Never been and always wanted to go. Set aside most of my vacation $ already into 2012... but I'll see what I can do to take care of it =)
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I have an extra ticket for the 6/26 show at MPU Park looking to trade for either show at Nokia Theatre in July. It is a field GA.
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Far L...couldn't agree more about the All Star Jam...fucking blew my mind (and my ear drums). If you find a recording of that or Sunday night's albums please post. I got arrested entering the the venue with my stash around 6pm Sunday night. Shit was well hidden but the lame ass security searched me like I was Bin Laden. Fucking diks then called over the sheriff to really fuck me. Got out at like 1am so I totally missed the show! Oh and to make it even worse it was my birthday!
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Damn man I hate hearing stories like that, they make me cringe. "Lazy lightning you say you never strike the same place. I want a double dose in any case ... You got to hear my supplication. Got to hear me now. A little bolt of inspiration"
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me too. So sorry to hear this.
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searched ya @ the gate? geez-what's this world coming to??? sorry to hear about your troubles