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    So glad you made it... Welcome to the updated Dead.net! If you've been around for a while, you should find your familiar haunts much as you left them, though some of them may be in slightly different locations.
    If you're joining us for the first time, we're delighted to see you! We invite you to just poke around and make yourselves at home.
    A few possibilities:
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    - All About My Band (the one you're playing in)
    If you need a bit of navigational assistance, post here or send me (marye) a PM and we'll try to help!

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    Wake of the Flood counterfeit

    Jack Straw83:

    I have both an early (likely original) pressing and printing of the genuine Grateful Dead Records Wake of the Flood LP and a counterfeit that I bought at a used-records store in the 1970s.

    The most readily noticeable difference between the two (which was pointed out by the band at the time, if I remember correctly) is the price marking “0598” (meaning $5.98) printed toward the bottom of the spine of the cover; on the genuine (original, if not later) release, that’s orange-colored; on the counterfeit it is white.

    The cardboard album cover of the genuine album release has a matte, not slick, surface finish and feel (like the first American Rolling Stones album, or Jefferson Airplane’s Bless Its Pointed Little Head), and the cover stock is a bit thick and sturdy; doesn’t seem to me cheap but rather an alternative to the more common slick surface of the time.
    The counterfeit’s cover finish and feel is a bit slick (not very), not matte; its card stock is similar to the genuine, maybe a bit thinner and less sturdy.

    What does seem “cheap” is the counterfeit’s printing of the cover art, whose inferior quality could be missed if seen by itself, but which looks especially poorer when compared side-by-side with the genuine: it’s an evident lower-quality photo reproduction from the genuine original. The lower image quality’s especially apparent on the front cover, and in the small lettering at the bottom of the back cover (“GRATEFUL DEAD RECORDS SAN RAFAEL, CA. 94902 ℗ © 1973 GRATEFUL DEAD RECORDS PRINTED IN USA”). The front-cover art of the counterfeit is less sharp, less “present” and a bit washed-out, and the small lettering on the back cover is fuzzy, not clear and sharp as on the genuine (that’s as quick a giveaway of the album being counterfeit as the white “0598” price marking). And the painted color field encircling the sides and upper area of the front-cover illustration is, on the genuine album, a rich, dark maroon; that field on the counterfeit that I have is a dull brown (but does have the faint brushstroke figurations of the original).

    The LPs themselves are both not especially thick and are fairly flexible, but really not unlike most other LPs of the time; I wouldn’t say either is “a lot thinner and lighter than a normal LP,” but they are not like the heavy, rather inflexible 180-gram vinyl you find from most? LP releases nowadays. The counterfeit has perhaps a bit more flex to it than the genuine.

    The labels on the LP discs appear nearly identical, but the counterfeit’s printing quality is poorer, again like a photo reproduction of the original (less noticeably so than with the cover art, but the letters of Rick Griffin’s signature by the raven are rather illegibly run-together on the counterfeit); curiously, the “©” symbol of the counterfeit’s LP labels appears different from the genuine’s labels, with a rather hand-drawn “c” inside the circle.

    It may not be useful to compare the engravings on the runouts of the vinyl between the grooves and the disc labels, as those could change, I think, depending on where (and when?) an LP was pressed, even for a genuine release. For what it’s worth, though, my genuine LP’s sides are engraved “GD-01-A” and “GD•01•B” (small dots rather than hyphens for the B-side), with an “X” on the A-side about an inch away from the other engraving, and both sides also have a masterer’s? or presser’s? mark in the runout, that looks like an oval (or an LP as viewed from an angle) with a dot in its center and two legs as from an inverted “V” pointing outward from the bottom part of the oval; I don’t know who that might represent, but it may be a well-known mark. My counterfeit’s runouts are engraved this way: on A-side, “GD-01-A—MI8” (I think that’s an “8” rather than a “B”) and "A18342-(2)" (that “A” might instead be a delta symbol); on B-side, “GD-01-B—MI9” and "A18342-X" (again, that “A” might instead be a delta symbol).

    Those are the details I have to give! I haven’t played either of these LPs in years, and can’t remember readily what differences in aural quality there seemed to me back in the day between the genuine release and the counterfeit; though I tended to not ever play the counterfeit after a first listen or few. (And no listening-test report update from me likely forthcoming soon, either.)

    Oh, that slot cut out on the corner of your album’s cover sleeve is probably indeed a so-called “cutout” mark meaning that the album was cut out from inventory meant for regular retail, I think by a wholesale distributor, when sales of product had diminished and excess inventory would be unloaded at a lower price and sold cut-price at retailers.

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    Wake of the flood bootleg or original copy?

    I am curious about whether my Wake of the Flood LP is authentic or not. I understand the phony copies resemble the original very well, so well it pissed the band off so bad they ended up working with the FBI to get the issue resolved. I own it on CD as well, but I'm just not sure about the LP. The texture of the cover feels kinda rough...well not rough, but not smooth either. It doesn't feel like a normal album cover sleeve. It feels kinda cheap. At first I figured it was the band cutting costs being it was the first album to be released by GD records which took a nose dive not long after. There is also a weird lookin slot cut out on the corner of the cover sleeve. I'm no LP expert but this is driving me nuts. The record looks normal but is a lot thinner and lighter than a normal LP as well. It feels like it's too easy to snap it in two if you were to bend it even slightly. It sounds okay I guess. Not sure because I would have to have copies of both the bootleg and the original in order to tell the difference. It's an older pressing of the album, assuming it's the real deal. Definitely not a reissue. If it was I wouldn't be having this problem that arose in late 1973 not long after it's release lol. Any help from you fellow Dead heads is much appreciated.

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    Aus Ameri nailed it. Keep…

    Aus Ameri nailed it. Keep the political bs out! These people have no idea what fascism looks like. I do, as well as my parents who thankfully escaped Castro's communist Cuba before they had me and my siblings.

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    One of my favorites. The…

    One of my favorites. The band wrote that song in memory of their friend Janis Joplin. The cover of Me and Bobby Mcgee was another, as she would never get to see the song become a hit or the album it appears on Pearl.

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    Change of address madness

    Is anyone else having trouble with "change of address" - maybe it's just my old-time internet-proof soul, but I can't find a phone number or any way to reach Dead.net for a simple address change. The "customer service" click gets me nowhere, any help? Repoman

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    Nice site.

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    @ Aus Ameri, You nailed it!

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  • Annie.
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    Hi There!

    Thinking of Jerry during this time in between and missing him.

    All I know is something like a bird within him sang
    All I know he sang a little while and then flew on.....

    Thanks for creating this site!

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    JERRY GARCIA TRIBUTE NIGHT @ Oracle Park :-) Aug. 2,. 2022

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So glad you made it... Welcome to the updated Dead.net! If you've been around for a while, you should find your familiar haunts much as you left them, though some of them may be in slightly different locations.
If you're joining us for the first time, we're delighted to see you! We invite you to just poke around and make yourselves at home.
A few possibilities:
-Tape trading (digital and otherwise)
- In Search Of (tickets! stuff! music! etc.!)
- The Ride Board (useful touring resource)
- All About My Band (the one you're playing in)
If you need a bit of navigational assistance, post here or send me (marye) a PM and we'll try to help!
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I like the new site. I actually just signed up for the site after years of coming here. Long time 'Head. Looking forward to enjoying the community.

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SHIRKADAY is a spammer. Click on the profile once.

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Welcome back !! Just in time for the holiday season to drop ! Glad to have this community to come visit .

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Old design the best!

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would those be David Dodd's Greatest Stories posts and the ensuing discussion? Still there under Archive, in Features. Still getting posts, too.
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I'm listening to Dick's Pick Vol. 13 (5/6/81) for the first time in a long time and Disc 2 has the wrong track listing in the liner notes. There's a Scarlet -> Fire on the Mountain on the disc, but is't not listed. DeadBase 50 also doesn't list a Scarlet -> Mountain for this concert, but it's on my Disc 2. Can anyone explain?

They were included as filler, undisclosed on the liner notes as a sort of "hidden track" -- pretty hot

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Old site used to show our comments on the products; sometimes we were stupid, mostly we were helpful to each other, but now that's gone? Boo.

EDIT: I mean, I see the forum threads on products that existed prior to the new site launch, but what about commenting on the new socks, or door mat, or that sweet wool blanket -- how do we do that?

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This is a GREAT site. Created a New account and missed the first 10 Days of 30. Is there a way to get these or are they gone until next time?

Thanks!

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thanks Marye...I'll check it out.

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if you go to the main 30 Days page and scroll WAY down, the past days' clips are there.
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Hey Now!
Been quite a while since I stumbled and fell in here, but it's nice to be back! I seem to recall there used to be a section where members could list the shows they attended, but now I can't seem to locate it. Was that ever a thing, or just a dream I dreamed one afternoon long ago?
Thanks!

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Welcome back, hope you're good. Yeah, I think there was a 'My Shows' tab at one time. It seems like it and a few other things have gone by the wayside with the website re-vamp. One thing I'm puzzled by is why they removed the 'track' feature to follow other users when you're online, and why are all the shows are off by a day when viewing them in list view?

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how about this new web design ,i have to say its given me a little trouble buying stuff ,getting e mail about my stuff and checkin on my stuff. am i the only one ??????

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I was also wondering what happened to the "My Shows" tab.

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Hello all... Checking back in on the new site. I see the "DISCOGRAPHY" section is still under construction... I am anxious to see the initial offering there, and to network with a few other obsessed collectors about some "Mythical Vinyl" questions, such as:
- Was there ever a US Stock Copy of the "One More Saturday Night" & "Cassidy" 45 record?
- Has anyone ever seen the alleged release of "Razooli" & "Happiness is Drumming" 45 from the Diga Rhtyhm Band?
- Radio Spots 7" for Anthem of the Sun?
As more of a general comment, the new site is very Flashy & Professional looking, I just hope it does not lose the greater community connection in favor of a merchandising outlet.
And speaking of merchandising.... Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Seasons Greetings, etc. etc. etc. - from your old pal Way out West.

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Hey Folks, anybody have the list or know where the answers are to the 30 days of 2018?

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Really like the new dead.net website looks, more user-friendly and in a new look. Really like it.

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I'm feeling happy to be a part of dead.net community.

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Please bring back the "My Shows" feature. My memory is failing and it took a long time to piece together the past.
It is not a data intensive/storage issue? So what gives?

I also worked hard to put that together the My Shows list. I guess it's gone.... I am still in the camp of not liking the changes. Especially with the comments no longer being listed under the for sale page of the specific product release. You now have to take a much longer route and effort to find the comments. I won't even bother trying to find it from my cell phone. And in turn people are most definitely posting way less. And over the years I bought so many of the products because of all the postings. This has to hurt sales a bit. I believe the intentions were good in redesigning the site but it has thinned the community.

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The tech folks are working on the restoration. So sorry for the temporary derailment.
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I'm feeling happy to be a part of dead.net community.

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same here

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is there any way to search by year? paging through 234 pages is not efficient. it seems like it existed in the old format, and also in the new format originally.

Same question with shows by venue,

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So cool!!!

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I'm a British Deadhead. First show was Wembley April 1972. Next was Bickershaw 7th May 72. I turned 18 at midnight and the Dead were playing Lovelight! I'm still 18 as a result.
Question: That night the Dead played Dark Star, PITB, Trucking and The Other One. Did that ever happen before or since?

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How many shows did someone have to perform in in order to be considered a band member? Seems to me that Bruce Hornsby should be included in your band member profiles.

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Really like the website and the design you guys chose. UI looks super with big buttons and a clean theme. Well done!

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I finally figured how to get back on dead.net
I've been a-missin' since the new rebuild mid-October 2018.
Many thanks to marye for her hard work around here.

Marye definitely deserves credit for the job that's been done. I'd imagine quite a few hours of work went into setting it up. As a web designer hobbyist myself, I also bet they spent a lot of time migrating the info from the old site over to this one.

One thing I really like about the new theme is how clean it feels. There's no spam, pop up banners or other nonsense cluttering up the page. Will be fun to see if we can revitalize this forum and bring it back to its former glory :)

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How about a release of "Turn On Your Love Life" from The Fillmore East 2/11/70 show with the Allman Brothers & Fleetwood Mac joining The Dead???????????????????????

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It is nice to have those links as guides to navigate this site.

Dead Heads are more than just "fans"

Hello from Thailand :)

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welcome to our merry band...
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So it looks like I'm able to post here while logged in to my account, but on the ticket exchange forum, there's no window for posting. Every time I hit the log in button there, it just sends me back to the top of the screen to another log in link. Help?

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Send me a PM so we can troubleshoot this. Obviously something's not right here...