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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    I'm really enjoying this 8-4-89 Cal Expo show. Great choice. 89 was so consistently good. Built to last is one of my favorites. Long 1st set. Pre-Drums Eyes and a Crazy Fingers!?

    Definitely release worthy.

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    Thanks!

    Wasn't sure if I was shouting into the wind, so your positive feedback is much appreciated :)

    As for The List, yes, yes, yes!
    I'd love that and I'd even help do it ;)
    I saw you mention that earlier and think it's a great idea.

    I've been fascinated with the story of the tapes since I got my first one.
    As it was handed to me, I asked "For Free?" and the response was "Yeah man, never sell them that's against the rules."

    This strange occurrence in the middle of the decade of greed, blew my 15 year old brain wide open.

    I've been fascinated ever since:
    1. Where do these recordings come from?
    2. How many are there?
    3. How can I get the best copies of them all?

    Those three questions & my curiosity about the answers continues to inspire me to this very day.

    What A Long Strange Trip It's Been!

    EDIT: JimInMD, agreed! Funny you mentioned 5/1/70 that was another one of Bob Minkin's cleverly chosen photographs, the master reels of that show appeared on the same page. Collector Heads are really really pretty neat.

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    I wonder what the Alfred College stuff would sound like if they cleaned it up. That's a decent full show with an acoustic set. I always liked that one, but it's an East coast college with a terrific emphasis in art and ceramics of all kinds.. so to me it has good karma.

    https://archive.org/details/gd1970-05-01.sbd.miller.95683.sbeok.flac16

    There's other spring 1970 stuff as many have mentioned somewhat recently.

    Agree with Billy.. right on.

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    Thanks for the great information about the vault, your information always is well thought out and reliable. I would love a list of shows that are in the vault, it looks like you would too. I posted a couple of weeks ago that I wish Dead.net would print out such a list so that we could see it. They could print out one list a month for one year (list of the month). I think that people would really look forward to that list each month, I know I would. If people want to remain surprised about what's in the vault , then they don't have to look at the list. Again, thanks for all the great information you put out, your postings are always so interesting and positive.

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    BTK: Yeah, so I think based on Dave's comments that some of the multi-track stuff still exists, some of it got wiped. And then there's also Betty's 2 Track mixes that exist, I think those are mostly acoustic sets, at least based on what circulates.
    I'm tempted to go through both runs and gather my notes on what SBDs are in circulation and which aren't, but I'm thinking that's a pretty good representation of what exists and what doesn't in the vault.

    DeadVikes: Yeah, here's a link to Dave talking about this on January 17th 2012 @ 33:48ish - http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/19834305

    It's a good watch and pretty informative. I stumbled on it looking into the 1970 tapes in the Vault, and it did answer my question on that as well.

    Unfortunately, he states that there are virtually no shows in the Vault from July 16 through December 1970, largely because of Owsley getting busted. I guess the Dead themselves were not running tape at all during this time. Might be old news for some, but I wanted to confirm it with my own ears.

    Clever Deadhead and Photographer Bob Minkin also gave us a clue to this on Page 221 of his book Live Dead with a picture of the 1970 reels in the Vault, in the picture there's a huge gap of reels between 7/16/70 - 12/27/70 :(

    Dang it.

    The above totally coincides with the tapes that circulate, mostly what exists in circulation from that time frame are either Fillmore East Crew SBDs (partials), FM Broadcasts, or Audience recordings.

    So, mystery solved? I'd still like a nice list of what's there and not, but yeah that might be my OCD.

    Since we're all getting older here, I think some time should be put towards figuring out what else exists from the Festival Express and to try and get that stuff and get it out there. I know there's more of that than what circulates.

    Unfortunately, I don't see any 1970 acoustic set stuff happening for American Beauty 50th, because it doesn't sound like it exists. Happy to be wrong.

    Alright, well there you have it, and that's the way it is Tuesday August 4, Two Thousand and Twenty, I'll be away on assignment and Dan Rather will be sitting in here for the next few years.

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    To bad they erased those tapes, I'm happy to hear that some survived. I'm. happy they released the 10/9/80 and 10/10/80 acoustic sets, I was at both those shows , so that might mean they still have the electric sets for those shows. Both those shows were killer shows,electric and acoustic , so hopefully the electric sets will we the light of day and be.released.

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    Sounds like a winner to me. Cal Expo.

    I am in the camp of hope for 1980. Time will tell.
    Thanks for the information guys, this is better than the alternative.

    GOGD, did you have a link for Dave's comments?

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    Those were general comments.. I have no facts to back them up. I just can't believe this there is nothing left on the shelves from those tours.

    Lemieux.. if you listening, check in that unlabeled banana box in the back of the room with the Blues for Allah painting. We think you missed some reels.

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    I humbly submit this gem....
    https://archive.org/details/gd1989-08-04.sbd.miller.89884.sbeok.flac16/…
    Biased because i was there. Pre-Drumz is especially tasty. 'hint, hint'.

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    Hi-Ya, chiming in on the 1980 stuff, in 2012 DL said the following:

    “Recorded every show from Warfield & Radio City Music Hall to Multitrack. Unfortunately a lot of that was erased in the early 80s. Nonetheless there’s material there.”

    A number of the Acoustic sets were part of the Betty Boards that were returned, I'm assuming those were two-track mixes though and not multi-track.

    Not sure if there's any info about the wiping of the original tapes. If anybody has info on that story let me know.

    In other news, looks like new DaP V35 might be arriving soon... fingers x'd.

    And lastly 5/29 & 5/30/71 look kinda cool...

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Got through both today, good pick Conekid. Listened to 12/2 first. Super mellow vibe. Could have dozed off during that super WRS. Stellar finish with that Truckin, Stella Blue and Morning Dew.

For some reason I prefer the 11/30 show, might be the Dew opener, which is so unique. Yes, Vguy, I agree the Dire Wolf is super mellow. Solid sound quality on this show as well, great job for these two, yes not complete shows from late 73, over twenty years old.

Looking forward to another pick, send us one Otis. This is giving me something to look forward to each day during this terrible time.
Maybe we will hear from Bolo again soon?
Nice new avatar Vguy, it is sweet.

Got a notice from Real Gone Music today, more Dick's picks coming back in stock, 31 and 28. That adds to the recent return of 33 and 29. These four, along with 36 are some of the best, IMO, they put out in the last two to three years. Good work Dave!

Otis, yes, Phil would get very vocal in the early days, through maybe 77. Then, we didn't hear from Phil for a long time.

Be well folks!

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It may only be me on this journey, but I'm glad to have you here...

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Might As Well fire up 10-21-71 next.

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Dave's #3 is in process. Started this morning. Good choice!

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....back to everyday. Was supposed to be off today, but a last minute corporate decision yesterday changed that. Otherwise I'd be halfway through 10.22.71. Listening to 4.14.71 at work though. These Buds+ earpieces are pretty sweet.

Very crisp recording! Good pick Otis, have not listened to this one in a while. Always interesting to listen to some of the classics in the early development phase. Jerry was very talkative in this release. "Hey this place is full of people, too weird."

Great Sugaree, Loser, Black Peter, stellar Comes a Time. Cumberland Blues is hot and than an old school That's it for the Other one.
Disc 3 from the previous night is no slouch, solid Truckin, Dark Star, St. Stephen! Great stuff.
Hard to believe how different they sounded when they got to Europe less than six months later, but that is what makes this so fun.

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This is what I’m listening to today. Great Dead show I highly recommend it. I think 5-6 people might be participating.

I've got a lot of work to get through today, so I think I will start with 7/13/89 RFK and finish up with 4/15/70. I wasn't able to get Boxilla, so I will have to archive it, but no biggie :) Then, perhaps a night cap of the 7/12 RFK show...

I'm excited because these RFK shows do not get the love they deserve, and it has been quite some time since they went for a spin. The 4/15 Winterland show will be a first listen for me, so I'm pumped for that too...

I am surprised that more people haven't jumped on the bandwagon here, what with all of the time many of us have on our hands. Perhaps you are correct in many people are going through E72, and how that takes a lot of time. Personally, I LOVE E72, but I need some more variety in my listening - even if 95% of it is one band :)

Happy listening!

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your comments, but haven’t been writing....so catch up time...
Loved 9/10/83, and think I liked 9/11 even more! Went for 10/17/82 for extra credit, but didn’t make it through....it was decent but didn’t seem to have the fire in the nuts that the 83s did and the sound wasn’t as good....still think there’s more hot stuff from that summer/fall 83 period. Remember thinking that I should do a real time comparison between the good matrix versions of those Sante Fe’s and the board cassette sourced DaP 27. or DP 6 for that matter. I’ve always felt many of these shows don’t resonate as well due to the flatness or compressed feel of those sources. They just don’t breathe, and 10/14/83 I was at so I’ve felt the recordings just don’t due the shows justice. Of course it’s been mentioned before, how would tptb get around this? Would it be such a big deal to throw a brother some cash for the use of their recordings? The more I hear good matrix’ the more I like better than SB only! Many of the Video discs and Spring 90 Terrapin Release 3/15/90 and perhaps Dozin at Knick? seem to use more ambient mics that to me make the instruments sound way more natural then SB only. I feel this is especially true during post Beatty years, which if they could solve this might make more of the later years available or useable...just a thought...

DP 14: what can I say, always been a favorite. Was one of the few must haves even back when I had the “whata i need more shows for” attitude. Not complete, but not so Frankensteined as some DPs, and from the great fall 73 tour, especially from the “the last ten”. These shows have always been top shelf for me; Amazing jams, true 5 piece during one of their most spectacular phases! Great pick, needed to get reacquainted!

DaP 3: this one is new to me so I’m not as intimate with it, but daddy like! Interestingly, understandably, not as tight as a week or 2 or 3 later, but surely made up for with enthusiasm, and neat look at many newish, work in progress material. Comes a time comes to mind, as well as One Mo Saturday....I must say, I think I like 10/21 better, but a Dark Star will do that to me....I’m realizing that my hangups with 70-71 is the outta tune guitars. Checked out that cool Calebration video someone posted, and same thing. Really dug it, cool transitional period, with great new songs, but Oy, those guitars sometimes are tough to take.....but so what, good pick!

Ok, today, we’ll try 4/15/70 first and follow up with 7/13/89. It’s the Mrs one allowed day a week to work from home (which is stupid because she has plenty more work but they’ll only allow 1 day, idiots)...so have to keep it down a bit, and have a new project to get on, so I’ll do the 4/15 first and wait to crank the 89 tonight.

4/16/72: I would love to do this one tomorrow! Can’t/haven’t taken the full E72 Pepsi challenge for various reasons, but have been trying to at least check out monster jams etc. So this way we get 2 birds stoned at the same time!

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Jerry’s Gibson SG really sings during the Other One . Big sound in a bigger space than ballrooms or theaters. Lovelight / NFA / Lovelight is spiritual . A favorite 30 trips.

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Average so far Pig Pen's blues picking it up. Candyman, how sweet!

Cryptical> Drums>Jam >The Other One>Cryptical>Dire Wolf and the rest of Disc 2 is great!

Multi Track bliss. Sounds so good. Great first set, really well played To Lay Me Down. I liked the LLR versions from this era, Bobby got after it on a lot of these. Love the Terrapin. Always makes me sad when I hear I will take you home, we lost Brent way too early. 79-90 was a very important era for the band. So many highs and lows. Good solid finish and I like this version of Good Lovin they did with some added vocals from Brent. Heard it a few times in 89.

Strider, I don't have 4/15/70, otherwise I would que it up.

I am down for 4/16/72 tomorrow, I have this one.

Be well!

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....4.15.70 is on the Archive. Doesn't sound as good, but decent enough. Couple cuts here and there.

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Proof that the band had solid performances later in their career .

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Rebirth of the Dead

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RFK - such good stuff! Sadly, I was not able to get in a listen to 7/12, but I am sure that will come along soon now that the set is back on my mind.

I really enjoyed the whole show, but especially that 2nd set!

Now, 4/15/70 - that was a whole different beast. I really enjoyed what I heard (only got through about 2/3) but I will be finishing it up today. Then, I suppose it is on to 4/16/72. Was that the pick for today?

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Didn't mean to abandon this thread - covid has hit a little too close to home.

2 family members (relatively mild to moderate symptoms and recovering, thankfully), and the wife of my walking/hiking buddy (not doing so well). He's awaiting test results for himself, and if he's positive I'll need to get tested as well. We are careful to keep our distance from each other, but you never know with this insidious virus. I feel great, by the way.

I'll check back in a few days. Glad to see y'all are still going back and re-visiting those gems that have been neglected for far too long!

Cheers and good health to all.

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Listen to GOGD to keep the spirits up.

Just finished 4-16-72, played it while working so sometimes I was listening to it and sometimes it was just background music. That Cumberland seemed like it was one Vguy would like.

Now what to listen to?
Think I will go with 7-12-89 to complement yesterday’s listen of 7-13.

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Bolo, very sorry to hear that and we hope you and your family will come through this okay on the other side. Just a terrible time and we hope to hear from you again soon.

Your idea for these picks have kept my spirits up here in MN.

Be well Bolo!

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....bolo apologizing for being away from these boards. You have zero reason to apologize. Take care of you and yours and we will survive. Wishing you well.
And yes, that Cumberland is very nice. The Cumberland from Europe '72 was the song that got me interested in the GOGD. Is 4.16 the version?

6-7-77
9-12-89
4-16-72

I get a lot more listening done when home in quarantine. I don’t listen to music when at work, so it’s just in the car and when at home.

The June 77 Box got a lot of listening years ago when it still had that new car smell, but then other stuff got released and that stuff got played a lot. It’s great to go back to stuff that hasn’t been played in a long time, it seems new but also familiar. The Morning Dew on 6-7-77 totally did for me today, had forgotten about that one.

Been a busy day. E72 shows speak for themselves, so good. Really good China- Rider, Dire Wolf, Cumberland, Truckin. Solid show with something like 750 people. Good choice!

Also got in the first set of 7/12/89 as well. Always liked Phil on Tom Thumbs Blues, stellar FOTD.

Looking forward to a new pick for tomorrow.

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I’ll probably have enough time for a least two, so 4-17-72 will be included.
I have another pick to suggest , but it can wait for any day, as it seems we’ll be here for a while.
I’ll throw it out tomorrow morning while drinking morning coffee if another suggestion hasn’t been made by then. Keep it to official releases because that’s what’s loaded on my music player.

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....better late than never!! A GSET opener is always welcome. Going frozen food tonight for din-din. Egg rolls and beer.
I totally missed the Daves 3 listen. Oops.
I have a pick for tomorrow! Winterland 10.22.67. The live bonus from the Anthem Of The Sun 50th. One disc. Surely we can find the time for that.
Edit....lets listen to the whole release!!!
I'm conekids wingman.

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Ah Youth. The band plays with youthful abandon and exuberance during Truckin . Haven't listened to Arhuus in a long time. Picked up this morning from almost where I left off last night. Restart Truckin. Will try and squeeze in 4/17/72 later.
I’ve never been across the big pond.
GD in Europe like Kesey said; “heads across the water.”

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Ok, I'll bite.. this is fun.

I'm usually just a lurker but you guys have inspired me, so Thank you!

1972-04-16 was killer diller yesterday, That was soo good! It just shows the quality of that tour that not a song from that show made the album.. wow.
1970-04-15 - It took a few songs for the boys to get going, but God Damn, that TIFTOO Jam is HUGELY epic. That was great to hear again.

I still gotta listen to the '89 show... but I went off on a different trip yesterday after 4/16/72 and revisited Dick's first pick, 1973-12-19, but wanted to hear the "full show" so listened to the Miller SBD, Dick was right on all his picks, those are indeed the best tracks..

LATVALA!

Another reason I wanted to go back to 12/19 was to listen to Phil's Bass solo that got edited out, I was listening to an interview & Gans mentioned that and I'd forgotten it was missing (nice editing!). After doing some diggin' I came across it... it's cool and worth a listen.. but it sounds like it was missing from the Master Reel anyway as the solo only circulates as an audience patch from what I could find. Anyhow.. definitely worth a revisit whether you're listening to DP V1 or the Miller SBD or the Partial patch.. or all 3 will take you places too:)

Alright now you know why I'm a lurker.. I start babbling and stuff.

So it's 1972-04-17 today you say? Followed by the Grateful Dead Movie on Shakedown Stream... Happy Friday!

Thanks everyone, I'm digging the synchronicity of listening to picks from knowledgable heads and going to far out places.

During times like these it's like Jerry says on 12/19/73 “Remember Your Hippie Training Folks! Be Cool!!”

Thank you for being Cool!

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I don’t know the first thing about it.
I used calculator and entered the date from my first GD concert plus date from last. 9181 days or twenty five years ,one month and twenty one days. Then I calculated 9181 days since my last Dead show 2/21/95 and came up with last Saturday .
Still trying to wrap my mind around that ole man time.

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4-17-72 playing now
10-22-67 and Anthem-50th completed.

Welcome The GOGD, glad you came out of hiding.

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Thanks icecrmcnkd!

Dig it here.

Got sidetracked with some fresh 1991 Preston.Miller upgrades on Archive.org.

As soon as I finish grooving to 1991-09-26, which is sounding pretty darn good, Ima gonna load up 1972-04-17 and enjoy the ride.

If we could lose the Virus I could get used to this... Be well everyone!

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Nice to see you here GOGD.

Send us a pick for tomorrow.

I am going to check out the Shakedown Stream at 7:00 CST for the Q&A.

Be well people!

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Thanks DeadVikes!

What about 1973-02-26 - Dick's Picks V28? (missing Set 1 songs on Archive.org)

I haven't listened to it in awhile and could use a fresh pair of ears on it, not much early '73 happening here yet from what I can tell. I listened to 1973-02-09 last week for the first time in forever and was taken away..

If that's not working I can always throw the hat in for 1972-09-16 or that can be a bonus pick.

Between this and watching old Bill Walton, David Lemieux & Gary Lambert I'm feeling some DeadHead pride. Good music can make sad times better. Hats off to you all for doing some good work here.

Here's a list of what's come before (I think):
1967-10-22 - Anthem 50th Bonus Material (2020-04-06)
1968-02-23 & 24 DP V22 (2020-04-09)
1969-01-24, 25 & 26 - Aoxomoxoa 50th Bonus Material (2020-04-12)
1970-04-15 - 30 Trips (2020-04-15)
1971-10-21 & 22 - Dap 3 (2020-04-14)
1972-04-16 - Europe 72 Box (2020-04-16)
1972-04-17 - Europe 72 Box (2020-04-17)
1972-11-15 & 17 - DaP V11 (2020-04-07)
1973-11-30 & 12-02 - DP 14 (2020-04-13)
1978-02-03, 04 & 05 - DP V18 (2020-04-06)
1979-12-26 & 28 - DP V5 & RT 3.1 (2020-04-07)
1983-09-10 & 11 - SBDs (2020-04-08)
1989-07-12 - RFK Box (2020-04-15)

The following shows were also Mentioned
1972-04-17
1973-09-08
1973-12-01
1977-06-07
1979-09-01
1980-09-02
1980-10-10
1985-11-01
1989-07-13
1989-09-12

PS - That trip through 4/17/72 Dark Star > Sugar Mag > Caution > JBG was soooo sick today! I had to do that twice. Makes you think what could have been… Nobody stuck around to film Set 3.. forehead smack!!!

....you call it babbling. Here we call it crunching Dead numbers. I'm in. Lincoln has the slight advantage due to a GSET with a Dark Star chaser. Salt Lake has a Cold Rain opener (always an indication) and an Eyes->Dew. Tough call.

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I am in on this for tomorrow. Good choice GOGD. Dick's 28. Another super solid Dave release.

And this one is for sale again at Real Gone if anybody doesn't have an official copy. Wow!

Cool!

Since it’s the weekend and all here’s my pick:
1973-02-26 - Dick’s Picks V28
1973-02-28 - Dick’s Picks V28
Take your pick, do ‘em both… choice is yours

Extra Credit jam the missing tracks on archive.org or in your stash.

Filler:
1972-09-16 - Circulating SBD partial

Just getting to the 1967-10-22, had to save it for the right time, and the right time is now…
Morning Dew, NPC, Hurts Me Too, great young band version CR&S, Lovelight, sick BIODTL (Jerry fanning.. this S#*% is good!

Dig the Avatar and oh yeah provided this is all copacetic with the moderator... alligator!

Stay well and remember your hippie training.