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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • May 20, 2022 - 9:54am
    Oroborous
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    Coming around, in a circle

    Yasss that whole 90 Nassau run is top shelf where mama hides the cookies!
    I concur, the 28th has a great set list and great flow! The Cutler mix is awesome, if I had more time I’d do a Box release comparison at home, hell maybe I will this WE? But after our awesome enjoyment of the 30th, I’m thinking that one’s the big dog of the run, big set lists and guests aside? But that may of been the moment? Really their all so good who cares lol.
    I was able to hit the first set of 5/15/81 again and that’s another great run: 5/15, 16, 17/81. Will hit the first half of the second set, then hopefully some of 4/3/82?

    I’ve recently hit the Greek run, so may have to pass or delay? But DV you MUST check out this run if you love 82 and haven’t yet done so!! To me all 3 were really good but seemed to progress each night Culminating on the last night which I think is the 23rd? Chever, go for it, you’ll be happy : )
    I would like to hit the Providence show sometime soon as I’ve only heard the second that I had a tape of. I didn’t have a huge tape collection so if I have a tape, it must of been a good show? That and the majority of the 5th that didn’t get on Road Trips are the only parts of this tour I’ve not heard, yet. Perhaps we slip em in next week?

    Someday I’ll get time to properly rehit 42 but my listening has been spotty lately.
    Still have a couple fall 73s, some more Nitecats, a couple 92 Dark Stars, and more on the to do list!
    Perhaps next week Doc will give us another primal history lesson? But this WE I’d like to enjoy some official releases stuff on real stereo, hopefully?
    Awright, snowing up here in the high country so time to get things warmed up with some hot Dead!

  • May 20, 2022 - 8:47am
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    3/28/90

    I wanted to fit this in.. but couldn't. Still, I had a recent listen to this. It's one of my favorite Spring 90 shows for no other reason that it scratches an itch, it appeals to me. The beginning of the second set sparkles and has a great flow to it from one song to the next:

    Foolish Heart
    Looks Like Rain
    Cumberland Blues
    The Weight
    Hey Pocky Way

    In addition to a thundering Other One, second set those songs that beginning sequence shines.

    - Foolish Heart has a great flow, one of the better versions they did
    - Looks Like Rain (used on Without A Net), love the special affects (Mickey??) tosses in.
    - Cumberland Blues (it's got a Cumberland, and a smoking one at that)
    - The Weight (A great version and the first performed. It's a clean board and you can still hear the NY crowd go nuts as they knew this was a special breakout. A goosebump moment and it comes through on these recordings)

    A great show. I still plan to fit this in and revisit it. I think it was OB commenting something to the fact that 3/29 gets all the hype and rightfully so, but it might not be the strongest show in the run. That might be true. Irregardless, if you take a step back and look at the whole three show run there's a wholeness to the sequence. It's a tentpole stop in the spring tour that does a great job of holding the whole thing and poking it up through the clouds. Truly a great moment in Grateful Dead history and powerful run of shows.

    Ok.. rant over. Back to your regularly scheduled Looks Like Rain > Cumberland and spare changing on the corner for gas and beer money. (don't even think about reaching for proudfoots catalytic converter.. we know who you are!)

  • May 20, 2022 - 8:07am
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    3/28/90, another great spring 90 show. Nice call OB.These three Nassau shows are so good, well okay, the whole tour is A+.
    We get a High Time in the first set, great Queen Jane, Loose Lucy.
    Second set Foolish Heart, LLR, Cumberland, The Weight, Hey Pocky Way. HPW is such a rocker. Love it.
    Nice transition out of space into TOO and a Revolution encore.

    Looking at going back to 82 with 5/23/82 Greek Theatre. Let me know if guys have any interest in this one.

  • May 19, 2022 - 10:39am
    Oroborous
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    Leftovers

    I haven’t had a good listening session in days as work has had no flow with too many distractions. So I’m going to finish 3/28/90, and re hit some of those 81 and 82 shows.
    Schlater!

  • May 19, 2022 - 6:14am
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    The Scope, I think this would have been a good place to see a show. 4/3/82 is another fine April 82 show. Can you imagine if Dave gave us an 82 Box?? Okay, not this year.
    The recording for 4/3 is outstanding, really enjoyed it. Great first set, the Peggy O, CC Rider and Birdsong are well done.
    Another solid second set, Scarlet Fire, Estimated Eyes. Interesting second set Never Trust a Woman. Great finish.
    So 3/28/90 sound good to me OB. I think I will go with the official release from the 1990 Too Box Set

  • May 18, 2022 - 10:11am
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    Forward, never straight!

    Yes WTJ, I’m pretty sure this would have been the second show they switched sides? I don’t think they had at any of the early 82s, and I saw them that way on 4/8&9/82. I’m at work or I’d look it up.

    I’ll have to replay some of that Rutgers show to get a better take. Most of May 81 that I’ve heard is hot. I still say 5/17/81 was one of the best of the year, but I’m extremely biased on that one. Jerry was so loud and fired up at that one.

    I think they purposely didn’t play “obvious” stuff just to mess with us lol. Like outta 8 Buffalo shows we saw, I believe we only got Truckin’ at the 7/16/90 show.

    Yeah, ooopps, here I’m whining about similar set lists and burnout on some things and I suggest a very similar set list to 5/15/81 with a S>F>E>E>D/S>NFA etc, at least there was a Never Trust A Woman for variety lol.
    JG does have some scorching moments, and yasss, alas, Bob once again just had to torture a live cat on stage, harumph.

    Not sure it’s quite up to some of the later shows of the tour, but seemed like they were warmed up and ready to rock after the 4/2 “warm up” show. Often the first show was a gamble: often they’d approach the first tour show they way I often approach work Monday’s! or you might get a real burner if they were really itching to get at it?

    Hoping by now most everyone has gotten 42, and the weather is changing etc, so I know folks have stuff going on.
    So I’m going to hit the other bookend of that fine Nassau 90 show DV picked recently and check out 3/28/90.
    I figure for those busy, behind, or still in a 42 coma with drool on their chin won’t mind skipping this one.but if not, looks like a sweet Cutler pull down mixed from multitrack. There’s a Healy too, but I’m curious about the Cutler.
    I’ve been critical of his live mixing (too clean and quiet) but I always thought he mixed the Dead best in the studio.
    Whatever one feels about the music on In the Dark, to me, the mix/sound on that one is the Gold Standard!
    So for those who need working man’s dead, 3/28/90, for the rest of ya, onward, and we’ll see ya on the flip side!
    Forward, never straight!

  • May 18, 2022 - 8:13am
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    4/3/82

    Looks to be another gem hiding in the Spring of '82. I am going with the August 2018 Miller. Looks like it was Dave Schools 1st show, two weeks and a day before mine. Just checked out a few songs to pick the best source, man.. Jerry could shed some emotion when he wanted to.

    Nod to Oroborous for mixing it up.

    aack.. it's that nail on chalkboard demonic slide guitar again. I think the rooster won't crow for day because it's owner kept him up all night butchering the slide guitar.. again.... Other than that.. very pleasant so far.

    Edit: Love mid 80's Let It Grows. Checked out the venue, looks to be another space ship in the general Hampton, Norfolk, Newport News vicinity. The Pentagon should include this building and the Hampton Coliseum in their UFO investigations. Would have loved to see the dead at this venue.

  • May 18, 2022 - 6:26am
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    4/3/82. I admit I looked at the setlist. What no Promised Land in Norfolk? Imagine, no El Paso in El Paso. Guess it's too obvious.

    Isn't this the show after Jerry and Phil switched spots on stage?

    Another Scar>Fire, Estimated Eyes right after we called up 5-15-81. 'Twill be fun to compare. Back in the day for me, 4/3/82 was considered a unique and somewhat storied version of this particular pairing.

    :-) :-) :-) all and Have a Grateful Day! :-)

  • May 18, 2022 - 5:38am
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    4/3/82

    Missed your post yesterday OB, but yes, 4/3/82, Virginia, let's do it.

  • May 17, 2022 - 9:59am
    Oroborous
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    Now

    5/15/81: decent show, unfortunately set list was real similar to several shows I’ve recently listened to.
    Guess I’m just suffering from burnout?
    5/16/69: with Docs intro I was expecting something way worse. I didn’t think it was THAT bad?
    Loved the GMLSG, only Pig would open with that at a high school dance! I can just see the “adults” getting nervous in the corner lol. The comments on archive are great: several from folks who were there. Favorite is about the Principle not letting Garcia smoke in the gym, tossing his axe in its case and storming off to smoke, priceless! Or the guy who got to burn out back with Jer in his beater car. Fun stuff.

    Tried another round of 42, but the world conspired so only superficial. Glad Jim received his and has been digging on it!

    Today thinking I’ll try 4/3/82 again. Started this yesterday but again, wasn’t able to get a good listen. Sounded like I need another shot so that’s where I’m heading. This is the last show from spring tour that I’ve never heard before.
    ONWARD

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....between Four Winds and myself. Middle of TN Jed. I'm staring straight at that Morning Dew like a headlight on a northbound train.

What a release Jim, thanks for this pick. I am with Daverock on this one, might be one of the best releases.

I shied away from this one forever, because it was not a complete show. What a huge mistake that was.

Sound quality is A++. If Dave's 34 sounds anything like this we are in for a huge treat.

The China Rider is awesome. Two unreal Eyes. Yes, That Loose Lucy is really good. How about that Morning Dew. WRS, Truckin! All top notch stuff.
To the great soul that turned me on to this release, this one is for you!

Tommorow, we hit up FourWinds pick, From Egypt with Love!

Be well folks!

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....features an If I Had The World To Give. A top five song that I wish they played more often. The others?
Gentlemen, Start Your Engines (saw one and it was pretty cool)
Brother Esau (never saw one)
Built To Last (tough lyrics. I get it. Saw two)
Clementine (nada)
France (saw three. In dreams).
Dead & Co brought back World To Give. And they were pretty nice.

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On the waterproof shuffle, WOS Road Trips. Both shows are excellent as is the sound. 6/16 highlights for me are China>Rider (powerful), Race is On (one of the better versions, sometimes in these electric versions the vocals are all over the place.. this one is a ok), a monster Eyes (more on this later) and nice Big River and a monster PITB.

Excellent

But 6/18 delivers the goods. One of the all-time Eyes>China Dolls. The performance and transition flawless, poweful and seamless. A jazz masterpiece. I think the version on the GD Movie (10/19?) is more popular and certainly sounds better.. but on the movie soundtrack, they cut and edited out one of the jams. I think the transition from 6/18 is better, and it's my favorite. Not a wasted note or chord, everything on purpose and just exactly right. but I am biased. A high water mark.

WRSuite, TOO, I Know It's a Sin, Stella Blue, and perhaps the best Morning Dew of the period rounds out the release. There is a bit of mayhem but it works.. just be patient. I have gotten used to the I know it's a Sin jam and when I listen to it.. I fill in the words. Powerful stuff. A potent part of the set.

Too bad it's a chop job, but it's a great release.. also, to my ears, this was the show where Jeffrey Norman went from Jeffrey the Grey to Jeffrey the White. This was about the period when he really stepped up his game to wizard status. This sounds (to me) head and antlers above the best copies on the archive. Working directly from the Master Reels and by this point in his career having acquired quite the bag of tricks makes a big difference.

That's all I have. Also.. I was remiss last night asking for more time for the new 74 release. There is a whole other place for that on the Dave's Picks thread. We should keep this the way it is. I like the idea of 5/2/70 on it's birthday and I hope someone brings up the 5/15/70 road trips as well.

Edit: Thank goodness they deemed whitewater kayaking as an acceptable social distance sport.. but the shuttles in the truck are a bit taboo.. but not if you bike the shuttle, which just gives you a little extra alone time to grove to the GD.

On it for Saturday. Good idea Strider, Jim and Vguy.

Vguy, interesting you bring up "If I had the world to give", I used to sing this song to my daughter when she was really young.

Okay, never thought I would post that but you brought it up.

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If I had the world to give, I'd give it to you
Long as you live, would you let it fall, or hold it all in your arms?
If I had a song to sing, I'd sing it to you
As long as you live, lullaby or maybe a plain serenade
Wouldn't you laugh, dance, and cry or be afraid at the change you made
I may not have the world to give to you
But maybe I have a tune or two
Only if you let me be your world
Could I ever give this world to you
But I will give what love I have to give,
I will give what love I have to give,
I will give what love I have to give, long as I live.
If I had a star to give, I'd give it to you
Long as you live, would you have the time
To watch it shine, watch it shine
Or ask for the moon and heaven too? I'd give it to you.
Well maybe I've got no star to spare, or anything fine or even rare,
Only if you let me be your world, could I ever give this world to you.
Could I ever give this world to you....
....why they only played this live four or five times is beyond me. The lyrics remind me of Attics Of My Life. Which, incidentally, is a song I sung for my son when he was really young.
They brought that one back, to much rejoicing.

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A good time to check the mail. Got a package from Bolo24, CIA.

Gonna let it sit for the required time.. just in case it self destructs or something.

What a hoot. Thanks Bolo.

For what it's worth.. to wide awake to sleep.. youtube is serenading me with the acoustic set of 10/31/80. Works for me.

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That is cool Vguy! This band sure brings us all the emotions.

What we all wouldn't give right now to hear, "We will be back in just a little bit, so everybody hang loose." Man, I am trying real hard to hang loose.

Spill the beans Jim, what did Bolo send you for winning the contest?

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Great idea. Count me in. Extra credit for the NRPS set.

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I've got the New Riders set.. I will do my best to send it as Alac or Flac to anyone interested. Just PM me.

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If I had the world to give, I'd give it to you
Long as you live, would you let it fall, or hold it all in your arms?

I guess we all know the answer. Sorry had to say it!

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You ever listen to the 10/17/78 version that is not on the bonus disc. If you haven't during space right before If I had the World to Give, you can hear a woman say to Jerry "I want to take banjo lessons" He responds that he doesn't do that anymore... bob t

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What a great show! Love the acoustic set . Garcia says something about demon rum right before Dire Wolf.

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Mark me down for it.

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You saw a lot of great shows!!! P.S. You will never believe it is raining in Rhode Island again!! Be good everyone bob t

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Winterland October 1978

Can any one or TPTB tell me why we can't get all 5 shows released like June '76 box??

Thanks.

PS, Wouldn't be funny if this was the fall box set to be released Oct 6 according to LMG.

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Bob T, I didn't make it to this show, I went to the shows on Oct 20 and 21. My brotther told me about this incident with the girl and the banjo lessons. Garcia used to give banjo lessons when he worked at Swain's House of Music down in Palo Alto, my brother knows a couple of guys who took banjo lessons from Garcia back in the early 60s.

I don't teach anymore..

How cool is that? Nice call Bob T and cool story BTK!

WOS Rocked me yesterday, both 6/16 & 6/18 were so great to hear again.
I am fully pumped now for the Jai-Alai Fronton Release.
Can't Wait and well executed stoke you good pickers you.

Waited until later in the day, to get the full effect, and it was wonderful.

The Eyes > China Doll & WRS > TOO > It's A Sin > Stella is such an incredible trip to take.

And having read your posts I knew what was coming all day, and the magic part, even with that and having heard the show many times in the past, I couldn't wait and was excited when they broke into Morning Dew and it is EPIC, better than I'd remembered.

And that's what this trip is all about!!

6/18/74 - Eyes, WRS & Morning Dew up there with best evers.

Alright set the time machine for Winterland October 1978 you say?!?!

Right away!

Had to start with If I Had The World To Give after that sweet serenade last night courtesy of you all.

JIMINMD - What's in the box?

It's gonna be a good day!

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Jim, If you're saying you have that day for NRPS, I'd take a copy. I don't have?

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Got em.. will send later today.

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I too opted for the full 10/21/78 show - on "Roses" now, and I have enjoyed this show so far, save for Bobby's slide playing during "Sugaree" and "Stagger Lee." My copy of this show (the Miller one that Vguy posted,) sounds pretty darn good.

I know that 5/2/70 DiP 8 is on tap for it's 50th anniversary Saturday, but what about tomorrow? May I suggest DiP 5 - 12/26/79, one of my personal favorite picks, for Friday's listen?

Of course, I think a number of folks should be receiving DaP34 tomorrow... but if not...

Peace

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Thanks, my man!

Ouch - this patch in the climax of "Stella" hurts. Still - this has been a good listen!

Peace

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I have the complete shows on a HD but they aren’t loaded on the microSDXC card that is currently in my music player.
So, chop job it was.
Yes, definitely time for the whole run to be Plangentized, Normanized, and packed up in a nice little Box that fits on a shelf.

I didn’t initially go for RT because I wanted complete shows, not chop jobs. Probably the wrong choice because I missed out on the bonus disc which I believe allows you to reassemble a complete 10-21 set2.
But, all that can be remedied with the release of a Winterland Oct. 78 Box. Bring it on Dave.

Now I’ve ventured into torrent territory and am listening to 3-25-83 148801.Clugston.
Sound quality is not terrible, but the cymbals are a bit too loud.

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Definitely a different feel than our listen yesterday with the wonderful RT2.3.

Sound quality is mediocre at best and I agree the patches are rough.

Does anyone have a tracking arrival date for tomorrow for Dave's #34.

Mine still is saying label created.

Conekid, check your PM.

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Agreed! Not the same high as yesterdays '74 trip.. But The Other One is ripping and has a moment of IT for sure.

Actually having listened again, I'm surprised that this got released with the number of patches that were required. I'm not holding my breath on a rerelease.. there's so much other stuff in that there Vault.

Fun to revisit.

12/26/79 tomorrow you say? So Be It!

I might have to dig in to some 5/1/70 for it's 50th as well.

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But I wasn’t into chop jobs.
I did start ordering when full shows started coming and I got those bonus discs.

I also didn’t order Rockin’ The Rhein, and missed out on that bonus disc. Still don’t know why I didn’t order it.

....just wrapped up. 6.8 goonie birds out of 10. Mojo working goes on a little too long, but everything after that was fire. Very nice Must have Been The Roses. Moving onto an anniversary of a show i attended. Irvine Meadows 4.30.89. Box Of Rain, Iko to open the second set.

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Thanks!

Luckily we have a new C. M. audience release so there is a better patch for the Stella Blue and some other small patches but, on a bad note the taper only got a partial set 1 so no new patch for Sugaree which sucks.

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If ya don't mind me calling you that. Is this the NRPS 5/2 you have?

nrps1970-05-02.sbd.reel master.cass.dat.flac16

Thanks!

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Ollin> Promised, Sugaree, Ramble On, Passenger, LLR, all good! Stagger- Miracle brings it down.

Bertha, Good Love it's back, MHBTR sweet, Estimated blowing the roof off! He's Gone okay, this show kinda goes up and down. Mojo starts out nice, TOO - Stella - Sugar Mag all good. I got them U.S. Blues.

I think I blew or singed a voice coil in the mid-range speaker yesterday. I got a Emotive xpa-2 amp 70lb monster (all most gave the Fedex guy a hernia). Hard to find speakers that this thing can't blow out. Thinking of going with Airmotiv T2+ loudspeaker anyone familiar with these speakers?

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Yes, there are two versions actually.. I haven't had time to see which one sounds better yet. I think the one that comes as a whole show is slightly better.. I need to figure that out a couple people hit me up.

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The one I have listed is the SIRMick seed.

NeW Riders Of The Purple Sage
Harpur College
Binghampton, NY
Saturday, May 2, 1970

Source: Soundboard > Reel Master > Cassette > DAT (48k)

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You might just have a better version than the two I have. It seems to be one or two steps closer to the master reel and my best, although it's a soundboard, has just a touch of hiss.

Shot you a message..

If you could compare All I Ever Wanted from yours to this..

https://archive.org/details/gd1970-05-02.sbd-fm-aud.unknown.108955.flac…

That should give us the answer. Yours seems to be a generation or two better.

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If there is any interest in the more complete version I am seeding it at the etree.

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?torrentId=588035

NeW Riders Of The Purple Sage
Harpur College
Binghampton, NY
Saturday, May 2, 1970

Source: Soundboard > Reel Master > Cassette > DAT (48k)

01 //Workingman's Blues
02 Brown Eyed Handsome Man
03 Truck Drivin' Man
04 If You Hear Me When I'm Leavin'
05 tuning
06 Whatcha Gonna Do//
07 All I Ever Wanted
08 Henry
09 Lodi
10 Weir intro and tuning
11 Saw Mill *
12 The Race Is On *
13 Mama Tried *
14 Me And My Uncle *
15 The Weight

John 'Marmaduke' Dawson - rhythm guitar, vocals
David Nelson - lead guitar, vocals
David Torbert - bass, vocals
Jerry Garcia - pedal steel guitar
Mickey Hart - drums

guest:

Bob Weir - guitar, vocals *

Notes:

- This has been provided by an anonymous source.
- There were several nasty high-pitched squeals caused by feedback, which have been removed and some level adjustments have been made.
- Although the start of "Workingman's Blues" is cut this is the first time that any of it has circulated. It's completely missing from the FM source.

edited and mastered
SIRMick
March 2013

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Along with 8/13/75 this made me a dead head... I love this version so much.... I use to listen to it every day in college before I started getting tapes... bob t.... P.S. i am excited to hear Donna tonight!!! bob t

Cool to hear your story re: Wharf Rat & 8/13/75

Definitely have some tunes like that, first Dead album I got was WALSTIB from the ole Columbia Records and Tapes club, 11 Albums for a Penny!

Anything from that album takes me back but in particular Born Cross-Eyed and that Europe '72 Jack Straw.

Despite heavy rotation in bootleg circles, never heard 8/13/75 until the Dead released One From The Vault.
But I was stoked when I did get it.

And I totally forgot about Donna tonight! She's a kick, thanks for the flash:)

How's 12/26/79 going everyone? I had to get some 50 year old 5/1/70 in my ear hole.