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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • Oroborous
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    GOGD: as always thanks for the crack detective work. Quite a scene...I’ve heard Phil be Phil and heckle folks, but that was out right venom. “There is nothing like a GD concert” hee-hee. Can’t believe I’ve never heard about this one?

    JIM: yes agree, according to the charts were over due for both Dave’s and a box for 1972, and were overdue for a 78 Dave’s, but obviously that’s changed. Still wonder about a early 78 box cause ya know those ABCD Beatty’s are getting released someway sometime, and he has been rooting in there. Guessing too close on the heals of the summer 78 box, but after the knuckle balls he’s chucked this year anything is possible, which is great!
    Boy wouldn’t that be great if there was more quality stuff from fall 80, hell any 80 would be sweet, another black hole of underrepresentation! I’ve always felt like it doesn’t add up that ALL the tapes, especially quality multi-tracks could totally disappear? Sumthin don’t smell right? So hope your right! I know Deadvikes wouldn’t be the only one happy about that! Honestly, I think I’d rather have a cherry picked mid sized box than a comprehensive boxilla of all the shows. I know that’s sort of blasphemy, but practically speaking it might make sense...hopefully there’s somethin...

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    Crazy stuff at the Met Center. Maybe that is why they didn't come back to that venue until the late 1980s.

    1980 you say Jim?? I am in of course. Hard to know what they will do next year and of course when it will be released. If it is a fall release, it will be something like 18 months between box set releases. Too long for this guy. One thing is for sure, they keep us guessing.

    Like Oroborous said, we have those great years that are lost in space! So true. 80,81 and I will add 79 to that list as well. I think there is some great shows in that year.

    Yes and I would love the 74 Winterland Box Conekid, that would be a break the website release.

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    The piece of film that I have is the very beginning of OMSN. What I thought looked like a crew member doing a repair on stage is actually a camera man.

    It’s been a while since I’ve watched the movie. Makes me really want the entire run to be released in a Box with audio and video.

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    Thanks Oro.. this seems to indicate the series is more balanced than a lot of people seem to acknowledge.

    As for box, call me crazy, but I am speculating 72 or 80. My logic on 1980 is pure speculation. If they had some hidden reels (and there's a part of me that thinks they must), the certainly would not tell us. Perhaps when they were seeing what if anything was releasable.. while rummaging around the found a couple shows to be released as spin-offs giving us 10/8 and 10/9. Which gives them time to go through the good stuff and plan out a box set a couple years later. 1972, do we need a reason? Thinking the Fox Theatre St. Louis or the rest of the BCT's (if they have them). 69 will always be a wild card. Ark Ark.

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    10/23/73 - Fight -
    So there's some good comments on Archive.org in regards to this, but the following eyewitness review seems to shed the most light:

    Reviewer: duckpond74 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 30, 2010
    Subject: a little history here . . .
    What really sucked was that this show was advertised as "The Grateful Dead Performing 3 Sets". Casey Jones was the first song of Set 3. The fight was ugly - several security dudes beating on one guy who was dancing in the aisle right in front of the stage, even Bill K. jumped off the stage to help break things up and security started pounding on Bill, that's what Phil is so upset about. The melee ended soon after. By then, Jerry and Phil were both sitting on the stage floor - everyone seeming quite upset by this sudden change of weird energy and bad vibe. The band had several discussions - you could see that they were at serious odds about whether they should continue with the plan and do a third set. After all, the first two sets were well played, creative and joyful. When they finally tried to play Saturday Night, you could tell their hearts and minds were no longer into continuing this night. Too bad for all of us. Those security punks must have left their 'Minnesota Nice' at the door or when they donned their uniforms.

    So Billy K jumped down into the melee, following in the footsteps of Marty Balin circa 1969. It sounds like Billy faired a little better and it was Security Guards instead of Pool Cue wielding Hell's Angels.

    Fascinating. It makes you wonder what could have been during Set 3. I was under the assumption it was an encore, but shit.. that coulda been a Dark Star or something amazing.

    Wang Dang Soundcheck started circulating online in mid 2008 when Charlie Miller posted his Transfer of SBD > Master Reel > Dat. Outside of an Official Release, it doesn't get any better than that.

    Speaking of Official Releases (nice segue huh? I like transitions)... Man this 5/26/72 is sooooo goood.
    Set 1 is essentially a Full Show.
    And then... you get some of the greatest music they ever played.
    Pigpen's organ fills during Europe '72 are the cherry on top, he's got the tastiest licks imho.
    I've always liked his sense of when to lay back and when to add color.
    Really enjoying this Truckin' boy howdy, I see what those folks in Turlock were excited about.
    Good Stuff!

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    Woah, don’t think I’ve ever heard anything like that at a dead show before. At first I though someone must of chucked a bottle or something. Can’t believe I’ve never read about this before?
    WANG DANG: weird, not listed in either a Deadbase 10 or 50? Neither is OMSM? Sounds like a job for inspector Good Old....I’m wondering since they obviously don’t really know it if it was an off the cuff reaction to the fighting, I mean it is the perfect song for it lol.
    Great show though, just your typical fall 73, yawn, NOT! Hadn’t heard this one before. Probably cause no DS? Do Love those Trucking/Nobody sequences though. Man what a great tour! Still haven’t gotten to 10/19, just haven’t had time for real sit down in the big boy chair, and that show requires nothing less!
    Been enjoying the picks this week although only on iPad at job site. Tis why I’ve had to delay my fall 89 excursion...did listen to the three Philly shows a bunch on the pad, but didn’t get time for them on the big system until last night. After 10/23/73, and most of 10/18/89 on the pad at work, did 10/18&19/89 last night under proper conditions and yeah, still think Philly was a great run. More on that later. Have to make the best of probably the last nice day this year as it’s supposed to snow and drop from high sixties today to lows near zero by Monday, Booooo!
    One thing I don’t like here, going from extremes with no acclimation time, it’s a horrible shock to the system!
    So out to the garage it is. Perfect for 5/26/72 and then perhaps 10/20/89, with proper replay upstairs tonight.
    More to come...
    Onward!

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    The waiting.....

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    Here’s a Breakdown of Dave’s Picks
    (First #) = Year:
    (2nd =)Total Releases from this year/
    (3rd = )How Many Releases since last pick from this year../
    (4th =)Release # of last pick from this year

    80: 1 / 29 / #8
    69: 2 / 27 / #10
    81: 1 / 17 / #20
    72: 3 / 13 / #24
    71: 3 / 11 / #26
    83: 1 / 10 / #27
    76: 3 / 9 / #28
    70: 2 / 7 / #30
    79: 1 / 6 / #31
    73: 4 / 5 / #32
    77: 5 / 4 / #33
    74: 5 / 3 / #34
    84: 1 / 2 / #35
    87: 1/ 1 / #36
    78: 4/ -/ #37

    I figured we were getting a 78 soon, that and or a 72...of course 69, 80, and 81 are like lost in space...
    My initial reaction was disappointment, but as always I’m sure I’m going to love it and be damn grateful to have it!

    EDIT: so what do y’all think for next box....I’d say 78 since there’s those ABCD Beatty’s and he’s obviously rooting around in that zone except for how poorly the 78 box sold? I’d say it’s fair odds...

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    Agree dvikes. Keithfan used the term Kill Zone (69 through 74) though I would use 70-74, 77.

    Interesting pick. Digesting it a bit, they have gotten a bit formulaic, the first two from the kill zone, the third the head scratcher and the fourth, pot luck. It's good to mix things up, I would never want to be called predictable.

    I guess this whole conversation belongs on the other thread, but oh bother.. it's already written here.

    Since I got in 5/26 already, I guess I have the rest of the day to catch up on what I missed.

    Good vibes, good people and most importantly good shows on this thread. Haven't seen Bolo for a while, we can only assume geopolitical chaos is on the rise. Be good all..

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    Yes, I had early April 78 from the returned reels for a 2021 release. Didn't pick a specific show, however. Also thought we would see the Kezar 73 show. Who knows, maybe #38??
    Someone pointed out that this show would not fit on 3 CDs, so not sure. I think 72 is also due this year, not sure when.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

I believe that was the decision, but I know GOGD is also jamming the 50th of 5/1/70 today.

This one seems to be missing the 2nd set, but it has 1 and 3, and sounds typical Charlie Miller awesome!
https://archive.org/details/gd1970-05-01.sbd.miller.95683.sbeok.flac16/…

I'm going with Dick's 5, as it was my suggestion, and one of my all-time favorites! Shakedown>UJB Reprise encore? Yes, please :)

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....starts off with Cold Rain & snow, C.C. Rider and Dire Wolf. No complaints so far!

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@VGuy - Dick's 5 12/26/79 is gonna rock!

@OTIS - Nice PICK bro!

Didn't mean to muddy the waters I just had to listen to some acoustic Dead to start my day, anniversary and all.. so I hopped that train.

But that next train be passing later today and I'll be hopping aboard it to join you all fo sure!

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Nice pick and, the best thing is it's Betty Board.

Starts off with CR&S you know it's gonna be Hot!! haha

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Now maybe I can catch up with all theses great picks!

Wait...every day is like a weekend.

Never mind.

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Hot DAMN!

"Alabama>Promised Land" should have ended more sets. Scorching!!!

What a wonderful set - incredibly strong playing throughout. Aside from the closing duo, I particularly liked the opening combo of "CR&S" and "CC Rider," the "Brown-Eyed Women," and Bobby's reading of "LLR."

Got some meetings to pretend to care about, so Set 2 will have to wait for a bit.

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the little brother in the Christmas story...trying to keep up with the bigger kids in his giant snow suite!
But I’m trying, lol

- 5/23&24/69 ✔️ Smoking! Got this a year or so ago. Gets lots of rotation...
RT 2.3 6/16&18/74: do not have yet. I’ve been catching up on the RTs I was missing as they were re-releasesing them regularly almost on schedule with Dave’s. Started at 4.5 and were moving forward until last year then it stopped for some mysterious reason? Started again this winter so I’m up, down, whatever to 3.2, but no news as to when they’ll do next one? This is a bummer because I’ve been drooling for all the volume 2s, which would of been out by now if they’d kept to their schedule. Doooaaaahhh! I have most of vol 1, and at least copies of everything except vol 2...did pick up Dicks 29 and 31 though. Have a copy of 31. Not a big 77 fan but most of 2 shows for $69, WTH....

RT 1.4 10/21&22/78 ✔️ Just went with the chop release, but easy enough with my trusty Album Player SW to put in correct sequence (including bonus disc material). This release is all over the place, but I mostly enjoyed it, and some parts, like most of 10/21 were fuggin ripping! Estimated, Mojo, TOO, and holy shit Batman, forgot how hot that Stella is, patches and all! The rest was ok, though I was preoccupied so maybe missed something. But 10/21 was a pleasant surprise as I don’t normally listen to 78 much. Nice pick, hadn’t heard in too long.
Oh, yeah, that Workd to Give >> A&A was awesome. That song has always been one of my favorite Jer tunes. Yes, it boggles the mind why they didn’t keep playing it? This and Believe it or not, though I like WTG better...I need to check out that 10/17 show as it gives me the “hot” vibe...

Also been sneaking in some E72 shows or at least the good parts. Looking forward to DP 5 12/26/79 today as I continue to sort through great piles of accumulated crap in the lower level. Hopefully get 4/29/72 in tonight on the big boy system. Definetly DP 8 5/2/70 tomorrow. Haven’t heard either of these Dicks in quite a while. Love them both so stoked. So enough rambling, let the tunes begin!
Rock on folks!

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I just got done with set 1 now I have to take a
break to put the fire out, that was blazing.

Takes a whole pail of water just to cool him down.

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I just got the Sting openers from Sam Boyd '93

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DiP 5 was one of the first of the series that I got, and I have been in love with it ever since. The heat of the first set is only enhanced over the course of the next two discs - every tune is a highlight for me. The track after Drums, labeled "Jam 2" is a trip! Sweet "Brokedown", rocking "Around>JGB" (another pairing they should have done more often) and then the awesome "Shakedown>UJB Reprise" encore - just an all around killer show.

This pick is a big reason why I consider the Fall/Winter of 79 to be a pinnacle in the band's illustrious career. Thanks for jamming to this one with me today, and...

Happy Friday, DeadLand!

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You talkin' to me? :)

All 3 nights? I'd like to hear those.

How was Sting at RFK.. you got to see Jerry jam with.

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I only got the last two nights at Sam Boyd and the second night at RFK so far they are from sbd and sbd-aud. The RFK is the one Jerry jammed on so I get to hear it now.

When I was at RFK '93 I unfortunately didn't go in for the openers. I only saw a few Dead show openers, CSN Buffalo '90, Little Feet Giants '91 and Steve Miller Giants '92.

ps. They sound good. Intermission music.
pss. I wish I could get them to you I can only go snail mail.

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Good to see you Oroborous! What burn out?

Bolo, what did you send Jim?

When is the next mind bending contest?

79 has a lot to offer, good pick. Would love to see this one remastered.

Peace folks!

FWB: Nice! I had to look for a minute, but I do have that 5/16/93 opening set after all.

RFK '93: Were peeps raving about it when you got there that Jerry jammed with Sting? Curious

That was trip seeing Donna Jean! She's funny. Bobby Weir and 7/2/89 next week Bro!

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Don't want to say, as I'm not sure he's opened it yet.

Another contest (perhaps) after the warm glow of receiving DaP 34 has subsided a bit.

Does anyone have Dave's #34 yet?

Mine still just says label created, which is not a good sign.

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'RFK '93: Where peeps raving about it when you got there that Jerry jammed with Sting? Curious'

I don't remember people saying much about it I don't think many peep's went in for Sting. I personally was a little worried that last night of the tour I hadn't planned on the RFK shows so I didn't have a plan on how I was going to get home after the show as I was hitch hiking that summer but, I new that I had friends there I tried for two days to find them to get a ride home. So I skipped out during Liberty on a last chance to find them in the lot it was like looking for a needle in a haystack so I started to go up and down the rows in the lot and I hear someone ask me If I would like a cold soda and here it was my buddy I was looking for I was so re-leaved I found them and was not stuck in D C.

Things always seemed to work out at the shows.

12/2679 remaster, I have the vinyl record of this show and that was supposed to be a remaster J. Norman

Have a goodnight everybody see ya tomorrow.

....we saw him the first night in Vegas '93. He was pretty good....Partied a little longer in the lot the second and third shows because we assumed they would be pretty much the same sets (which they were). Sting never sat in either.

FWB: that summer ‘93 story is great! Good times :)

DeadVikes - my tracking stayed shipping notified until today, looks like it might come tomorrow.. hang in there, it’s coming! :)

Reissue 5/2/70 now has CR&S said DL. (Remastered?)
I did not know that..

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There's a lil variety in those set lists, especially the 3rd night

Prob caught wind that he needed to try a little bit harder ;)

Race ya! Portland or Nevada... who gets there first?!?!

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....had focused listening to the first set @ work. Solid. Then phones and clients. Home now. Second set starting. Very familiar with this release, but never got tired of it.

....it was right there! Then they decided to make a left hand turn into a Caution Jam. That then faded into a Mojo jam? (echoes of 10.21.78 sans Lee Oscar's harmonica)....for a few seconds there, is it Stella or a rat in a drain ditch? Ditch it is.

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....good pick dude. Nothing Shaking on Shakedown Street. Ain't that the truth.
12.26.79 gets 8.8 out of 10 goonies.
Harpur College on tap. The cream.
Be safe people. Wash hands. Play Dead.

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Well, I'm ready when you are. In fact I've already listened to half of it.

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Poor Jim was probably sworn to secrecy by agent Bolo to never reveal what the prize was with threat of being put in front of firing squad.

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Thanks man!

The transition from U.J. into Estimated was perfect.

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Perhaps because the Dead are about to blow some college minds wide apart.

Dick's Picks 8, 50 years ago today. Acoustic set for breakfast - very nice indeed :)

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.. sorry for the delay and for getting behind here. It all started a few days ago, when I got a parcel on my front porch addressed from:

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I didn't think much of it.. I set it aside in the part of the front porch where I let mail age for a couple to three days before opening. Then at some point yesterday I got to that stack of mail that had cleared the quarantine period, I opened the package. Now.. I live in a quiet neighborhood for the most part, but immediately upon opening I heard the sound of three large vehicles pull down the street and stop in front of my house. Turned out to be three Lincoln Navigators with dark shaded windows. I did glance briefly at the contents of the package, which was sparse. A change in skivvies, an n95 mask, some minimal food, water a gps device, a high def portable music player with a small graphic of the 5/2/70 Dicks Picks cover, a Visine bottle marked for emergency use only and a new passport with my picture and the name Henry Spencer on it.

After getting in one of the Navigators, we proceeded several miles away to a clearing. When I went to get out of the vehicle, someone placed an ether soaked rag over my face. I am just waking up now from a tranquil dream state, my bed, a thin layer of straw covering the dirt floor. The structure, privative with a thatched roof. There is a stump next to my sleeping space with some items on it including a small laptop with access to the internet somehow.. The bottle of Visine is now empty and I have this strange taste in my mouth. The portable 5/2/70 music player is there, I can hear running water in the background.. rapids of some sort and a small booklet that appears to be instructions. I can hear monkeys howling in the background, something must be going on and it's quite hot and humid here.

Reading the instructions now.. "....barely time to wait.., grab your stuff, put the headphones on, hit play don't forget your passport. Walk out the door ..now. Watch out for the monkey's they are not friendly....." The monkey's all stopped howling in unison, not a good sign. more to co

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Your the tops! Your the tower of Pisa, your the smile on the Mona Lisa...

I don't how you do it but, keep it up brother.

I got to get out today so stay safe and everyone have a great show.

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I Know You Rider, very spiritual ,
Kinda like that feeling I get when I listen to Iggy Pop. Just kidding.
Three set Grateful Dead was a rare bird . 1970 throw in NRPS and one had an awesome , exciting night of music.

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I got a head start on this in the wee small hours this morning, starting with the Dead acoustic set. I realize now this must be my favorite Dead acoustic set. Every rendition here is an all-time favorite. There may be more carefully played "Rider" 's but none more heartfelt and urgent. Well, the whole show is heartfelt and urgent. A half acoustic/electric "Cumberland" - perfect! The crowd is electrified by the "Friend of the Devil". Note the band's half-hearted reprimands when it ends.

Next, the spectacular NRPS set. I didn't realize before that Mickey was still their drummer at this show. It's a treat to hear Mickey as the sole drummer, and I think he's perfect for this music. Marmaduke's vocals are always good for the head. David Nelson's picking is right on point. (dang, I was supposed to see Nelson for the first time last month before the Covid Kabosh) Garcia is tearing it up on pedal steel, you can tell he's having a blast. Here again, the crowd is electrified. McDuke seems pleasantly taken aback by it - witness his exclamation of "far out" after Lodi.

Both sets have a good amount of Dead Freak screams from the audience - like the Aoxomoxoa St. Stephen screams. These are always a welcome addition to the proceedings. For me this cosmic cowboy music is just as deep and profound as the psychedelic electric stuff - next up.

p.s. Jim have you been watching Ozark, or something? :)

Hey y’all! Last night’s show on shakedown stream was a blast! What’s today’s pick? I need to clean my apartment and need some tunes!

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"We're going through some transitions. Our music is not what it was: it's continually changing. What we've been doing in the States lately is having like 'an evening with the Grateful Dead.' We start off with acoustic music with Bobby and I playing guitars, light Drums and very quiet electric bass. Pigpen plays the organ. Then we have a band we've been traveling with, The New Riders of the Purple Sage, where I play pedal steel, not guitar, Mickey plays Drums, and three of our friends from the coast, musicians that we've known for a long time, are fronting the band. So we start off with acoustic music and then The New Riders of the Purple Sage - it's like very snappy electric country-rock, it's kinda hard to describe - and then we come on with the electric Dead, so it keeps us all really interesting, and it's six hours of this whole development thing. By the end of the night it's very high." - Jerry Garcia speaking to Dick Lawson 5/24/70 - England

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For those of you looking for some extra credit on this fine Saturday, here is a link to the Charlie Miller transfer of this immortal show, which contains the full NRPS set and sounds WAY better than the only other version of that set that I can seem to find. It also has the full Dead show, in case some of you don't have the actual release.

https://archive.org/details/gd1970-05-02.138227.sbd.miller.flac1648

JimBo - Letting your mail age for a couple - three days... priceless! I hear the news contained therein gets a little smoother that way. Stay safe out there, and watch out for those monkeys!

Peace

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Tell ya all a Story -
At some point shortly after High School, I got a hold of the Mama Tried, Me & My Uncle & The Weight with Bobby Ace from Harpur College, I think it was from the Grateful Dead Hour in around ’88 (can’t confirm that) or maybe it was just filler on a tape. Anyhow, it wasn't properly labeled and didn't have a date, so it was kind of a mystery. When I heard the harmonies & pedal steel on Mama Tried, MAMU I was mesmerized, what is THIS!?! Then The Weight came on, a song I’d grown up hearing on the radio, so familiar and yet never like this. Is that Bobby & Jerry singing? Is this the Grateful Dead playing The Weight (not sure I even knew the song title). I listened to that tape over and over and over. It was unlabeled, there was no internet, I was just a high school kid in Ohio, didn’t have a good trading connection, got most of my “quality” stuff off GD Hour at that point, would sit in front of my tape deck and anxiously wait & look forward to it every week. I loved listening & thinking about that tape. The tape would remain a cherished mystery for years. At some point I lost the tape, and would think about it from time to time, I wonder where that was from? what the hell was that?…

Flash to today. Well all these years later, on it’s 50th anniversary, I can hear that “tape” in it’s proper context along with the most Amazing evening with the Grateful Dead.

What A Long Strange Trip it’s Been!

Grateful Dead coming on in about 10 - 15 minutes.. Thank you!

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If I had to pick just one Dead show to attend out of all the Dead shows ever played, this would be the one. Only gripe, I wish they would have played the full version of Candyman, like the killer version on 5/15/70. Love the Dire Wolf.