Grateful Dead

I see this show has been suggested a few times. I'll be interested in y'all's comments if you ever get around to it. I've never quite understood the love for this show. I know I must be missing something. I know it was one of Latvala's very favorite shows. But there's just the one big jam, the 20 min NFA. That jam never seemed to me very psychedelic, by the Dead's standards. I've never even heard or read much praise for this jam, in particular. The rest of the show has great high energy performances, but nothing unusual for 1977. Is it just the ambiance of an outdoor 1977 show? (the only outdoor 77 show?) The ambiance of a huge crowd? I know I must just be missing something. I certainly have learned to always trust Latvala!!

What does it for me is the uniqueness of a few songs. The Mississippi Half Step and He's Gone is like no other for 77....... Also a very strong Estimated>Eyes sequence... bob t

I would add.. in general it's a very well played show at a mammoth outdoor concert in the greater NY area.. it took place over Labor Day weekend and in excess of 125,000 people attended. Look how fast the Giants Stadium box sold out.. NY fans are a rabid bunch.

I don't know Gollum, but all this talk about Englishtown... makes me curious to give it a re-listen.
What was the consensus on that, wait till later in the summer? Something like that, I believe.

4/21/84.. I agree JIMINMD, that Slipknot! cooks for sure. I dig that Set 2, some good stuff happening there, and that stoked up some excitement for DaP V35 for me. Personally, I've always been real fond of '84 and I dig the cover too.
Pre-order is 7/17, when do they usually ship, I can't remember? I guess I could look...

Alright, what should we listen to today?

BTW I'd be down to re-listen to 9/20/70 this week, but maybe over the weekend when everyone can give it some proper attention, just putting it out there again ;)

I think it's off the radar for the most part, but a very interesting and very well recorded for the era..

5/10/91, Shoreline??

https://archive.org/details/gd1991-05-10.149670.sbd.pearson-healy.mille…

I love a good Desolation Row (among others)

Jim in Midi ;)

Yeah man, I'll follow your foolish heart off the path to Shoreline 5/10/91 (puns all intended, 2nd cup of coffee over here).

Looks fun, and for the record we've only had 1 yes count it 1 pick from '91 in the close to 4 months we've been doing this and that was 9/10/91 on 4/23/20. However, the bro / sis of this show 5/11/91 was watched by many on Shakedown Stream about a month ago.

Alright, there's your fun facts for the day ladies & germs.

Let's do this, thanks Jim!

.....lemme check my shows attended. Yup. I was present and accounted for. Good show!! Good pick!!
If i recall correctly, which is a stretch, this run of shows was an example of the each show getting better and better. The show on the 12th was Mother's Day. Bunch of mom's and roses in attendance. The memory is a grate place to visit.

Yes, please try again on Englishtown. Many days I consider it my all-time favorite show . . . the energy and enthusiasm are sky-high!

Sorry fellow pickers, been hanging out in the front too much....(seems like all I do is piss people off?)....needed to take a step back and smoke some fatties and mellow back in the last row for a while. Unlike y’all I need to take a time out from all dead, all the time, every now again, from time to time. Yes, blasphemy I know....it’s just when it starts felling like work......and having to occasionally go to work doesn’t help.
Fortunately I’m only working in unoccupied mansions that nobodies been in. Still a worry as your never sure if/when maintenance/staff people have been in. But compared to most I cannot complain.

I did throw on 4/21/84 yesterday, though only background listening on the iPad...but it did seem like a good show. I have a tape of second set but don’t recall anything about it so guessing I didn’t listen to it much? Prolly didn’t sound good, I’ll have to dig it out just for shits and giggles? Of course having my “favorite” ending combo probably had something to do with that also? 😉 Sorry, that probably offends someone so I’ll apologize now.

So I’ll try and throw on 5/10/91 under similar circumstances today, but at least I’ll get an introduction to it....

INGRISHTOWN: I believe WTJ, Deadvikes? someone wanted to wait on that until end of summer?
I’m with Gollum, it’s a great show but not a top 77 show personally, and of course 77 isn’t a go to year for moi...ooops, sorry, probably offended someone else now too...ok, need another fatty...dammit Pedro. shut up and get back to the last row where you belong, lol

I always will give a show a shot, because you never know. Thanks GOGD. 84 is not a go to year for me. It will be interesting how Dave's 35 will compare to this show.
Jim, I listen to the unofficial releases through Relisten (thanks to Oroborous!). It doesn't tell me the exact source, but it was the first SBD FLAC option listed, so it probably was the Miller.

Englishtown is another epic show, their first show back since Mickey's accident in June. Just think if they kept playing that summer? They were hot.

First Truckin since their return in 1976. Terrapin encore, come on! Gollum, time for another listen.

I might listen to this one again soon, just talking about it makes me want to.

I am in for a 91 show. Thanks gents.

Nice, sounds like one of Docs philosophical headings!

I think Sixtus turned me on to the app., so we should thank him!
Which I believe if you choose a version, and then go to the bottom of the song list page, it shows the archive number...I know it’s in there someplace it’s just harder to find?

EDIT: yep, just checked, on bottom of song page it says “view at archive.org” and lists there which version.

Not a 77 fan?? We take all fans over here. 30 years and always changing.
Hang loose.

....has me swaying back and forth like a buoy on the ocean.

I’ve never said I’m not a fan, it’s just not a top year for me is all, personally I love all the years combined, and I’ll give any show a try, especially the weird ones! Lol I will concur that 77 is perhaps the best overall consistently good, night after night, year in the catalog, it’s just personally not a favorite...just not weird enough..and only clarifying because I don’t want to offend anyone.

....1996. That year sucked.
Oh. And 2020. That year sucks too.

Hi Ya!

Good to see ya all over here today..

Digging the comments, keep 'em comin'... that's some funny shit.

This show has some spark in it's step so far.

Bruce gets Jerry inspired.

'77 is not really a go to year for me either... not knockin' it, just saying.

I'll come clean, I've always puzzled over Cornell. I mean back in the day, we played that tape non-stop because it's good.
But most of all, it sounded great (all be it fast / my tape needed some serious pitch correction) and we didn't have a whole lot of Great sounding tapes.

But now with all the other stuff.. is it the greatest thing ever? A subject for endless debate.

No Dark Star, PITB, Bird Song, I'd pick 9/21/72 over it, just as a quick example.
(Man really love that show especially after the recent relisten.)

Again, not knockin' but since OB is feeling feisty I figured I'd stir the pot, or is it smoke the pot?

Be Well, fun to hear you all!

Thanks for the tips and encouragment. I will definitely keep working on this one. It's been a tough nut to crack, but sometimes those have the sweetest meat. Queueing up 5/10/91.

I'm with Oroborous on '77. Early on I settled into 77 and 74 and my comfort food go to years, but I listened to so much '77, mainly because there is/was so much of it, that I guess I built up a tolerance or something, it takes more '77 to get me off (which by the way is exactly was the Swing did.. that one was extra potency, Grade A ).

I do really, really like 1977 and respect it for what it is. Like dating a supermodel.. after a couple years the 68 and 74 flawed but fun hippie chicks get you in their gravitational pull.

....saw four winds blow post on another board a few days ago. Was starting to get concerned. Current times and all.

Thanks for the pick Jim. Sound quality is really good so far. Just started and we get a Maggie's Farm!

Okay, remind me later not to pick any 77 for you guys.

I'm actually scrubbing a floor right now. haha lol

Like the other day when I was painting and 'Masterpiece' came on.

By the way, 7-1-79 is better than I remembered. I do also want to check out 7-1-80 San Diego. I used to have a really good tape of that, straight from DAT.

....5.10.91's first set ends with a Don't Sleaze Me In. Skip? or play?

What Jim said, especially about the Shwwwwiiiiinnnnnnggggggg!!!

What Vguy said, dudes on fire today!

Did someone say Four Winds Blow? Where art thou Four Winds?

GOGD, yes!

5/10/91: so far so good, first set is solid! More I get to know 91 better, the more I dig! Good call!

.....Spent a little time on the mountain, spent a little time on the hill. Now THIS memory isn't fuzzy at all. Recall it like yesterday,

from the Europe 81 tour, I always thought the Barcelona show on 10-19 was the best of the tour but this 10-6-show is quite good also, check them out.
For something completely different try 6-24-70, just an awesome Dark Star in the last electric set. Enjoy

I'm really loving all the keyboard work on this show. Bobby really goes to town on Stagger Lee. I don't know that I've heard a better "Saint". This is a hot show.

All good listens that I'm looking forward to hearing again very soon. There are many highlights from each of these 'End of Summer' shows. Good for a spin any time though, really...

Made it up to Bird Song on the Shoreline (so far). I kind of got sidetracked by 7-1-79 (man, that is an underrated show) Pretty sure we've covered it here already, though...

My first Dew and a beauty eh!

You guys can pick 1977 any time you want.. it is a truly monumental year. My advise to you is don't listen to a word I say.. :D

If we do go down the 77 path.. Baltimore is the abandoned stepchild. Sort of the Cinderella story of Spring '77.

As for 9/2/80, killer Oroborous. Were at Richmond 85 too? I think yes.. which makes that release (DiP 21) a twofer for you. Outstanding. We should do or both of those shows at some point. Being at Richmond myself.. I like the other show just as much... outstanding news.

Speaking of twofers, well.. this one is a threefer. I was doing my morning bike ride relistening to Jai Alai and just as Weather Report Suite drifted into Let It Grow, I caught this mother and two cubs sitting under a shade tree on a farm in the middle of the ride. ..about 20 yards away. Very cool.. bears are here but they sleep a lot during the day and you really don't see them all that much. It was very cool, but about scairt me right off my bicycle. Perhaps I should have shared this on the Dave's Picks thread.

The mid-set 1st China>Rider is over the top, too!

1977, you could say the same of April and a lot of October, too. 5-18-77 anyone? :-)

5-3 and 5-4 Palladium :-)

Springfield.... Scarlet>Fire and Help>Slipknot>Franklins..... Not in same show again until the 90's....... also a really good audience exists as well as boards... Keith is very predominant on the audience...... Have a good night everyone... bob t

Don't forget The Palladium show from 4/30/77, which is also from the Download Series #1. Melt your face Half Step, Peggy O, etc. etc. Yes, high quality from start to finish.

I think Half Step peaked in 77. Oh crap, did I say that out loud?

Loving the 91 show from today's pick. Thanks Jim. Sound quality and performance are both great. Need to finish it up tomorrow morning. I think I have said it before but for me 1991 has surprised me on how good some of these shows were. Seems like they were better than fall 1990 after they returned after Brent.

Be well folks.

Agree on the Palladium shows, you'd have to think they will come out as a box set at some point. Also the Capitol Theatre shows were recorded on black and white video.. considering what they are, it'd be great if they made those available when the remaining shows are released.

What's in store for today? Was there a suggestion nested a few comments back in this thread?

I think we should conspire together and up the ante to three shows a day and see the reaction on DeadheadBrewer. Will it drive him over the edge and put him in the white room?

Loved5/10/91, what’s on tap today? No net yet where I’m working so need to download something now before I leave....???

PS, unfortunately wasn’t at Richmond ☹️

or Spring '89. Many shows in April or May to choose from. I like the idea of 10-6 0r 10-19-81 and seeing what pops out at me from those, too.

Got Any '77 you wanna listen too OB? ;)

All that '77 talk yesterday.. might have to look at one of them there and see.

We have already listened to the following:
5/08/77
5/11/77
5/13/77
5/19/77
5/28/77
6/04/77
6/09/77

So other than the legendary April - May time frame there's still lots to choose from, you got Feb, June, Oct, Nov, Dec.
All kinds of stuff!

Who's got a pick, I'm eyeballing a number of Dave's & Dick's in '77 I haven't listened to in a while.

Great Pick yesterday Jim!

In the meantime I'ma gonna go check out these Bear Drops :)

EDIT: Or like WTJ says Spring Summer '89.. so much to choose from!

Finished up this gem this morning. What a great show. Upper eschelon Dead in my book. Highlights for me are Maggie's Farm, SOC, Truckin, New Speedway Boogie combo, so good. Black Peter, Sugar Mag with a sweet It's All Over Now encore.
Good call Jim!
Sound we do the next night 5/11/91??
Or wait a 77 pick? What?

Quick question on these recordings from the Archive. When the source states recorded by Healy and Pearson. Does that mean these are their actual tapes of the shows? Since they were both employed by the Dead, does that mean these are the official versions?

Let's do a different show instead of 5/11/91 since that was the Shakedown Stream about a month ago.. just saying.

As far as the Healy / Pearson Tapes on Archive. Based on the source info these are Transfers from Pearson's Cassette Master of the show. And real sweet transfers with good equipment. What circulates all appear to be UltraMatrix'd with ambience, cause that's what they were doing then. So.. these Pearson tapes are pretty much as good as you can get, without you know "plangent process" it or "Normanizing" it ala whatever far out processes they do, which costs a bunch of cash. You gotta pay Jefferey for all those hours put in, etc... That's a big process and expensive. Bottom line, these "tapes" you mention are amazing.

Now the question is.. are there multi-track of these same shows in the Vault?
Answer appears to be in some cases yes. I was surprised the other day reading an article Blair Jackson did with Phil in 1990 when he was working on Without A Net and he said in that interview that they had Multi-Track as far back through 1987. If that's correct, which is not confirmed in anyway I can tell, then it's possible there's Multi-Track of some of the earlier shows that year, ie Spring Tour, which would be GREAT!

The UltraMatrix from that tour have too much ambience mixed in and are more like good audience tapes. But I know that there's a clean SBD of Hartford '87, DL's first show, cause he played it on the Taper's Section and it's a different source than the UltraMatrix sources that are floating around.

Alright, just had to geek out a bit as this fascinates me and always has.

BTW Let It Grow from 10/11/77 is shredding!

Thanks for the info on these shows GOGD. Fascinating to me anyway and the shows on the archive are definitely hit or miss and I really keep an eye out for Healy and Pearson.

Make the call for today. Thanks Man.

Yeah, Miller is amazing.

As for a show today, I was hoping one of those ‘77 gurus would make a suggestion.

Maybe the hacked up RT V1 N2 10/14/77?
PITB > Brokedown > PITB is calling me.

Whole show or the whole Compilation release. Either way.

But if there’s a better pick, I’m hip.

Let's do the RT1.2.

It’s on man!

October 1977 here we come, show us whatcha got :)

[sounds of person's head exploding]

He’s tripping.. don’t worry he’ll be alright.
It only last a number of hours depending on what was ingested.

Ssstttooooooopppid interweb...

raise ya a Moose!
Was hauling ass down the mountain from Bachelor Gultch ala Henry, and luckily put my brakes on for that corner if you please right before the Ritz, when out jumped a huge Bull Moose! I’m not sure who was more freaked out? So seeing as I’m driving one of those dinky company transit vans (ours have polka dots, don’t ask....) so they look like a clown car or ice cream truck. (Children have run out with a dollar mistakenly) So of course the larger vehicle rule applied (hey, it was a big Moose) and so I hit the brakes and gave em some space, and luckily once he gathered his thoughts, he bolted, which was nice, because if he thought I was a threat he could have stomped and crushed my little van like a beer can!
Funny part was I had on its all over now baby blue from 5/10/91 again since I left before we picked today and I have no net where I’m working. Funny because a few seconds earlier and it might of been all over! Lol
But what a great show, we should definitely do 5/12 one of these days since I believe GOGD or ? said the shows got better every night of that run, which considering how good the first 2 are is enticing...
But hopefully tomorrow we can get a pick before I have to leave at 8:30 MST so I can download from Relisten and hang with the cool kids? I’m down for whatever: 91, 77, 81, some more 84.....it’s all good!
Let me know...till next time,
Buenos nachos mi amigos!

is this thing turned on?