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    So glad you made it... Welcome to the updated Dead.net! If you've been around for a while, you should find your familiar haunts much as you left them, though some of them may be in slightly different locations.
    If you're joining us for the first time, we're delighted to see you! We invite you to just poke around and make yourselves at home.
    A few possibilities:
    -Tape trading (digital and otherwise)
    - In Search Of (tickets! stuff! music! etc.!)
    - The Ride Board (useful touring resource)
    - All About My Band (the one you're playing in)
    If you need a bit of navigational assistance, post here or send me (marye) a PM and we'll try to help!

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  • mark_mumper
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    Wake of the Flood counterfeit

    Jack Straw83:

    I have both an early (likely original) pressing and printing of the genuine Grateful Dead Records Wake of the Flood LP and a counterfeit that I bought at a used-records store in the 1970s.

    The most readily noticeable difference between the two (which was pointed out by the band at the time, if I remember correctly) is the price marking “0598” (meaning $5.98) printed toward the bottom of the spine of the cover; on the genuine (original, if not later) release, that’s orange-colored; on the counterfeit it is white.

    The cardboard album cover of the genuine album release has a matte, not slick, surface finish and feel (like the first American Rolling Stones album, or Jefferson Airplane’s Bless Its Pointed Little Head), and the cover stock is a bit thick and sturdy; doesn’t seem to me cheap but rather an alternative to the more common slick surface of the time.
    The counterfeit’s cover finish and feel is a bit slick (not very), not matte; its card stock is similar to the genuine, maybe a bit thinner and less sturdy.

    What does seem “cheap” is the counterfeit’s printing of the cover art, whose inferior quality could be missed if seen by itself, but which looks especially poorer when compared side-by-side with the genuine: it’s an evident lower-quality photo reproduction from the genuine original. The lower image quality’s especially apparent on the front cover, and in the small lettering at the bottom of the back cover (“GRATEFUL DEAD RECORDS SAN RAFAEL, CA. 94902 ℗ © 1973 GRATEFUL DEAD RECORDS PRINTED IN USA”). The front-cover art of the counterfeit is less sharp, less “present” and a bit washed-out, and the small lettering on the back cover is fuzzy, not clear and sharp as on the genuine (that’s as quick a giveaway of the album being counterfeit as the white “0598” price marking). And the painted color field encircling the sides and upper area of the front-cover illustration is, on the genuine album, a rich, dark maroon; that field on the counterfeit that I have is a dull brown (but does have the faint brushstroke figurations of the original).

    The LPs themselves are both not especially thick and are fairly flexible, but really not unlike most other LPs of the time; I wouldn’t say either is “a lot thinner and lighter than a normal LP,” but they are not like the heavy, rather inflexible 180-gram vinyl you find from most? LP releases nowadays. The counterfeit has perhaps a bit more flex to it than the genuine.

    The labels on the LP discs appear nearly identical, but the counterfeit’s printing quality is poorer, again like a photo reproduction of the original (less noticeably so than with the cover art, but the letters of Rick Griffin’s signature by the raven are rather illegibly run-together on the counterfeit); curiously, the “©” symbol of the counterfeit’s LP labels appears different from the genuine’s labels, with a rather hand-drawn “c” inside the circle.

    It may not be useful to compare the engravings on the runouts of the vinyl between the grooves and the disc labels, as those could change, I think, depending on where (and when?) an LP was pressed, even for a genuine release. For what it’s worth, though, my genuine LP’s sides are engraved “GD-01-A” and “GD•01•B” (small dots rather than hyphens for the B-side), with an “X” on the A-side about an inch away from the other engraving, and both sides also have a masterer’s? or presser’s? mark in the runout, that looks like an oval (or an LP as viewed from an angle) with a dot in its center and two legs as from an inverted “V” pointing outward from the bottom part of the oval; I don’t know who that might represent, but it may be a well-known mark. My counterfeit’s runouts are engraved this way: on A-side, “GD-01-A—MI8” (I think that’s an “8” rather than a “B”) and "A18342-(2)" (that “A” might instead be a delta symbol); on B-side, “GD-01-B—MI9” and "A18342-X" (again, that “A” might instead be a delta symbol).

    Those are the details I have to give! I haven’t played either of these LPs in years, and can’t remember readily what differences in aural quality there seemed to me back in the day between the genuine release and the counterfeit; though I tended to not ever play the counterfeit after a first listen or few. (And no listening-test report update from me likely forthcoming soon, either.)

    Oh, that slot cut out on the corner of your album’s cover sleeve is probably indeed a so-called “cutout” mark meaning that the album was cut out from inventory meant for regular retail, I think by a wholesale distributor, when sales of product had diminished and excess inventory would be unloaded at a lower price and sold cut-price at retailers.

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    Wake of the flood bootleg or original copy?

    I am curious about whether my Wake of the Flood LP is authentic or not. I understand the phony copies resemble the original very well, so well it pissed the band off so bad they ended up working with the FBI to get the issue resolved. I own it on CD as well, but I'm just not sure about the LP. The texture of the cover feels kinda rough...well not rough, but not smooth either. It doesn't feel like a normal album cover sleeve. It feels kinda cheap. At first I figured it was the band cutting costs being it was the first album to be released by GD records which took a nose dive not long after. There is also a weird lookin slot cut out on the corner of the cover sleeve. I'm no LP expert but this is driving me nuts. The record looks normal but is a lot thinner and lighter than a normal LP as well. It feels like it's too easy to snap it in two if you were to bend it even slightly. It sounds okay I guess. Not sure because I would have to have copies of both the bootleg and the original in order to tell the difference. It's an older pressing of the album, assuming it's the real deal. Definitely not a reissue. If it was I wouldn't be having this problem that arose in late 1973 not long after it's release lol. Any help from you fellow Dead heads is much appreciated.

  • Jack Straw83
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    Aus Ameri nailed it. Keep…

    Aus Ameri nailed it. Keep the political bs out! These people have no idea what fascism looks like. I do, as well as my parents who thankfully escaped Castro's communist Cuba before they had me and my siblings.

  • Jack Straw83
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    One of my favorites. The…

    One of my favorites. The band wrote that song in memory of their friend Janis Joplin. The cover of Me and Bobby Mcgee was another, as she would never get to see the song become a hit or the album it appears on Pearl.

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    Change of address madness

    Is anyone else having trouble with "change of address" - maybe it's just my old-time internet-proof soul, but I can't find a phone number or any way to reach Dead.net for a simple address change. The "customer service" click gets me nowhere, any help? Repoman

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    Nice!

    Nice site.

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    @ Aus Ameri, You nailed it!

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  • Annie.
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    Hi There!

    Thinking of Jerry during this time in between and missing him.

    All I know is something like a bird within him sang
    All I know he sang a little while and then flew on.....

    Thanks for creating this site!

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    JERRY GARCIA TRIBUTE NIGHT @ Oracle Park :-) Aug. 2,. 2022

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So glad you made it... Welcome to the updated Dead.net! If you've been around for a while, you should find your familiar haunts much as you left them, though some of them may be in slightly different locations.
If you're joining us for the first time, we're delighted to see you! We invite you to just poke around and make yourselves at home.
A few possibilities:
-Tape trading (digital and otherwise)
- In Search Of (tickets! stuff! music! etc.!)
- The Ride Board (useful touring resource)
- All About My Band (the one you're playing in)
If you need a bit of navigational assistance, post here or send me (marye) a PM and we'll try to help!
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Welcome back. Glad you're here.
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Also we're still working on a few things that aren't quite right yet, so if you run into one of them feel free to PM me, or post, or whatever works!
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How do I log out? I’m on an iPhone btw. Am I just old and in the way?

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So grateful you're here. The new format feels good, clean, lots of bright. i like:)

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but if my iphone is any indication, that black bar at the top is obscuring your avatar and its nice menu with Log Out on it. I will report this to the tech folks. Anyway, glad you're here.
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But the new site is alright with me.

It seems like its easier to get to some of the "other" sections, but not as quick to get to the latest release thread. Which is okay, it might spread out the traffic a little. Those threads could get unwieldy very quickly.

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I just wanted to see how replys get formatted.
Thx for the welcome and support marye.

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Is this thing working?
Is this thing on?
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My browser still says “Website Not Secure”

Glad some things never change.......

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Since the issue I described seems to be unlikely to be affecting you: If you can see and tap/click/press/whatever your avatar up there on the upper right, it will reveal a menu that includes Logout. Also the ever-popular Recent Posts. Let me know if this works okay for you. Thanks!
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Did they remove the My Shows part of my account of the new redesign? If not, where would I find them now, & if so, whyyyyy???

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hit a bit of a snag in the transition. The intrepid tech team is working on it. It may be some days before this gets fixed, but we're on the case, honest. Yeah, the golden road is bumpy sometimes... Thanks for the heads up, and bear with us!
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Hello everyone, I'm new member.

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Thx for getting back to me and good luck sorting it out! It was just nice to see them all listed there :)

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My problems

1) Last night my password wouldn't work. to log in I had to request I new one (account info was remembered by the system).
To comment today I again had to request a new password after my new password wasn't recognized.

2) Wanted to post about this from IceCreamKid:
"After posting that last comment I was sent to page 6 of this message board.
Why wasn’t I sent to the most recent post of this page?
And another...
Those navigation numbers on the bottom of the page
First......1,2,3......Last
Put a copy of those on the top of the page too so that you don’t have to scroll to the bottom of the page just to move to another page."

That experience happened to me too (at first, thought my comment had not posted, then saw the page number) and his request is one I firmly second. If you have comments appearing newest first, scrolling to the bottom the page to change pages is annoying and there should be the same page list/links available above the comments as there is below.

Hope that my password problem goes away. Hope the vast fields of white do get filled in with something interesting but not distracting or obfuscatory.

The site did seem to need an overhaul. Hopefully, this overhaul will be beneficial. Thanks for trying, GDM crew.
(And when I posted this to the DaP page, I was bounced to page 6 again...)

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Thanks Mary for all of your patience, help and therapy!!! I know websites must stay current with trends and technology. I like the general direction the new site seems to be heading in, but will wait for pats-on-the-back at this point. Here are some things I've noticed.

[Viewing Via Chrome (Version 69.0.3497.100) on MacBook Pro/High Sierra v. 10.13.6]

GENERAL
1. Dim the background or add cool, subtle background so the new site does not continue causing headaches and/or blindness.
2. Seems like every time you do anything, you have to re-take the reCaptcha exam. Is this necessary?

MESSAGES
1. The personal message board takes a very long time to download compared to other locations on the new site..
2. There is no “PM member” button with poster’s avatar/comment, or on their member info page, or anywhere else I can see.
3. Doesn't look like you can "Preview" messages created on .../private_messages/ before sending. I'm only seeing a "Save" button.
4. PM’s seem to get posted to the wrong “Subject” thread, even if you re-enter the intended subject in the subject field. (Maybe they go to the first thread between the participants… or maybe by alphabet?)

COMMENTS PAGES
1. Indicate newly posted comments with “NEW”. This was a very helpful feature in the website’s previous incarnation.
2. Allow more comments per page - previously you could select how many comments were displayed per page.

Thanks again for the therapy!

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The drop down menu next to the avatar does not appear when using an iPad.

Thanks for spending your Sunday doing IT work.

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For the third day my password needed resetting to get me in.
The request email to reset password system works GREAT. Sends message instantly and the process is painless, but annoying. All in all, this is NOT a terrible problem for me and quite manageable.
Am logging in via a macBook, OS10.6.8 using FireFox 48.02. Did not have this problem before the site upgrade.

My avatar pic and account info all survived the upgrade fine and the password reset system leads me straight to my account. It is just the log in password recognition that has gone hinky.
My password choices are registered as "weak" by the evaluation system, but the "changes (are) recorded".

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Looks like my account is intact. Are discussions about new product on the product order pages now gone permanantly?

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I've been poking around...in the show archive section, if you key in a year, the screen returns with shows from that year. but if you try to page forward in the event the show you're looking for is not on the first page, the screen reverts back to 1965 shows. It didn't happen each time, but something like 4 out of 5 times this happened.
Searching by venue didn't seem to work at all.

EDIT: seems to be corrected now...thanks

also...your GOTCHA is incredibly aggressive

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They are all here: https://www.dead.net/forum/72336 There's actually a lot of good thought behind this, because it was often the case that something would sell out or otherwise become unavailable, but wait, there's this huge conversation attached, we can't just remove it... This way, we avoid causing further distress to people trying to order something that's been out of stock since 2011, and the conversations are in a nice safe place where folks can go right on conversing. So please do!
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I'm with those that say the new site sucks! I definitely don't like the white background, and in my opinion the text is too small. Or are you throwing us older Heads in the trash?

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This is definitely not a one-size-fits-all issue, but I (being old) find it helpful to use the Zoom In or equivalent in the browser's View menu, which makes things bigger. And also reduces whitespace. fwiw.
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The old site was tired. :)

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Every time I try and login it doesn't work. I have to reset my password every time. I have to go into the link in my email. Why won't it remember my password? I've tried on my phone and computer. It does the same thing on both.

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Can you listen to archived Grateful Dead Hours?

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Hi Marye...

Where do you find a Dave's pick where you can go to that particular pick and see Dave's chat, Music samples, and peoples comments. Then you click on it in the store and it just says sold out.

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Great to see you back online. Looking forward to exploring the new features and links. Much love and peace to all of you at Dead.net. Keep the fires burning. - PK

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Will have to work on figuring out how to navigate! Nice to be here though and know the community is still alive and well.

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What's the deal? I would like to change mine from the one I've been "assigned". Help!

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The discussion threads from the product pages moved here: http://www.dead.net/forum/72336 The reasoning behind this was finding a way to keep the discussions available and live even after the product was sold out. I'll see what I can find out about the Dave clips etc.
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The search function does not work and you have to go page by page through all the years beginning with the first show to get to the one you're looking for. Is this still being worked on?

Please bring 'Shows by Year' back! And on another note, please up the number of comments viewable per page. 9-12 comments at a time just does not cut it when some threads are populated with hundreds of comments.

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Thanks, this is quite useful. While we are working on this, you may find it useful to search by venue alone, because I've had good success with that.
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4 days and counting....

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Hoping we will see 30 Days of Dead 2018? Any chance we can get to the 2017 archive too?? I appear to have lost most of 2017 in a computer mishap...thanks!