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    Wake of the Flood counterfeit

    Jack Straw83:

    I have both an early (likely original) pressing and printing of the genuine Grateful Dead Records Wake of the Flood LP and a counterfeit that I bought at a used-records store in the 1970s.

    The most readily noticeable difference between the two (which was pointed out by the band at the time, if I remember correctly) is the price marking “0598” (meaning $5.98) printed toward the bottom of the spine of the cover; on the genuine (original, if not later) release, that’s orange-colored; on the counterfeit it is white.

    The cardboard album cover of the genuine album release has a matte, not slick, surface finish and feel (like the first American Rolling Stones album, or Jefferson Airplane’s Bless Its Pointed Little Head), and the cover stock is a bit thick and sturdy; doesn’t seem to me cheap but rather an alternative to the more common slick surface of the time.
    The counterfeit’s cover finish and feel is a bit slick (not very), not matte; its card stock is similar to the genuine, maybe a bit thinner and less sturdy.

    What does seem “cheap” is the counterfeit’s printing of the cover art, whose inferior quality could be missed if seen by itself, but which looks especially poorer when compared side-by-side with the genuine: it’s an evident lower-quality photo reproduction from the genuine original. The lower image quality’s especially apparent on the front cover, and in the small lettering at the bottom of the back cover (“GRATEFUL DEAD RECORDS SAN RAFAEL, CA. 94902 ℗ © 1973 GRATEFUL DEAD RECORDS PRINTED IN USA”). The front-cover art of the counterfeit is less sharp, less “present” and a bit washed-out, and the small lettering on the back cover is fuzzy, not clear and sharp as on the genuine (that’s as quick a giveaway of the album being counterfeit as the white “0598” price marking). And the painted color field encircling the sides and upper area of the front-cover illustration is, on the genuine album, a rich, dark maroon; that field on the counterfeit that I have is a dull brown (but does have the faint brushstroke figurations of the original).

    The LPs themselves are both not especially thick and are fairly flexible, but really not unlike most other LPs of the time; I wouldn’t say either is “a lot thinner and lighter than a normal LP,” but they are not like the heavy, rather inflexible 180-gram vinyl you find from most? LP releases nowadays. The counterfeit has perhaps a bit more flex to it than the genuine.

    The labels on the LP discs appear nearly identical, but the counterfeit’s printing quality is poorer, again like a photo reproduction of the original (less noticeably so than with the cover art, but the letters of Rick Griffin’s signature by the raven are rather illegibly run-together on the counterfeit); curiously, the “©” symbol of the counterfeit’s LP labels appears different from the genuine’s labels, with a rather hand-drawn “c” inside the circle.

    It may not be useful to compare the engravings on the runouts of the vinyl between the grooves and the disc labels, as those could change, I think, depending on where (and when?) an LP was pressed, even for a genuine release. For what it’s worth, though, my genuine LP’s sides are engraved “GD-01-A” and “GD•01•B” (small dots rather than hyphens for the B-side), with an “X” on the A-side about an inch away from the other engraving, and both sides also have a masterer’s? or presser’s? mark in the runout, that looks like an oval (or an LP as viewed from an angle) with a dot in its center and two legs as from an inverted “V” pointing outward from the bottom part of the oval; I don’t know who that might represent, but it may be a well-known mark. My counterfeit’s runouts are engraved this way: on A-side, “GD-01-A—MI8” (I think that’s an “8” rather than a “B”) and "A18342-(2)" (that “A” might instead be a delta symbol); on B-side, “GD-01-B—MI9” and "A18342-X" (again, that “A” might instead be a delta symbol).

    Those are the details I have to give! I haven’t played either of these LPs in years, and can’t remember readily what differences in aural quality there seemed to me back in the day between the genuine release and the counterfeit; though I tended to not ever play the counterfeit after a first listen or few. (And no listening-test report update from me likely forthcoming soon, either.)

    Oh, that slot cut out on the corner of your album’s cover sleeve is probably indeed a so-called “cutout” mark meaning that the album was cut out from inventory meant for regular retail, I think by a wholesale distributor, when sales of product had diminished and excess inventory would be unloaded at a lower price and sold cut-price at retailers.

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    Wake of the flood bootleg or original copy?

    I am curious about whether my Wake of the Flood LP is authentic or not. I understand the phony copies resemble the original very well, so well it pissed the band off so bad they ended up working with the FBI to get the issue resolved. I own it on CD as well, but I'm just not sure about the LP. The texture of the cover feels kinda rough...well not rough, but not smooth either. It doesn't feel like a normal album cover sleeve. It feels kinda cheap. At first I figured it was the band cutting costs being it was the first album to be released by GD records which took a nose dive not long after. There is also a weird lookin slot cut out on the corner of the cover sleeve. I'm no LP expert but this is driving me nuts. The record looks normal but is a lot thinner and lighter than a normal LP as well. It feels like it's too easy to snap it in two if you were to bend it even slightly. It sounds okay I guess. Not sure because I would have to have copies of both the bootleg and the original in order to tell the difference. It's an older pressing of the album, assuming it's the real deal. Definitely not a reissue. If it was I wouldn't be having this problem that arose in late 1973 not long after it's release lol. Any help from you fellow Dead heads is much appreciated.

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    Aus Ameri nailed it. Keep the political bs out! These people have no idea what fascism looks like. I do, as well as my parents who thankfully escaped Castro's communist Cuba before they had me and my siblings.

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    One of my favorites. The band wrote that song in memory of their friend Janis Joplin. The cover of Me and Bobby Mcgee was another, as she would never get to see the song become a hit or the album it appears on Pearl.

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    Change of address madness

    Is anyone else having trouble with "change of address" - maybe it's just my old-time internet-proof soul, but I can't find a phone number or any way to reach Dead.net for a simple address change. The "customer service" click gets me nowhere, any help? Repoman

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    Nice site.

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    @ Aus Ameri, You nailed it!

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    Thinking of Jerry during this time in between and missing him.

    All I know is something like a bird within him sang
    All I know he sang a little while and then flew on.....

    Thanks for creating this site!

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    JERRY GARCIA TRIBUTE NIGHT @ Oracle Park :-) Aug. 2,. 2022

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So glad you made it... Welcome to the updated Dead.net! If you've been around for a while, you should find your familiar haunts much as you left them, though some of them may be in slightly different locations.
If you're joining us for the first time, we're delighted to see you! We invite you to just poke around and make yourselves at home.
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-Tape trading (digital and otherwise)
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Hi all. Does anyone know where to get covers, poly or other, for the cardboard covered CD? I'm especially looking for ones for the multi-disc sets, Daves Picks, and the 50 year anniversary sets.

Can't wait for the American Beauty set.

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welcome to our merry band...

Can't find my archived list of shows attended, wanted look it over. My account says no shows are listed. Ridiculous, I listed my shows with this website over a decade ago and listed 124 shows attended before 1995. Please
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So, as nice as this forum is, I've got over 20 years on DeadNetCentral. And wouldn't you know, I just now decided to change my password using one of those password generators, and I am...shut out.

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HI Mary - I'm so sorry - I've tried since Dave's Picks 33 was released to fix this with customer service. I've been subscribing to the DP series since the beginning, always shipped to my work address at 1350 West St., Pittsfield MA, 01201. For some reason Dave's 33 was sent to "350 West Street" and never made it to me. I contacted customer service at the time (Feb 2020), they said it would be dealt with. Nothing for months. I contacted them again recently, they said sorry it would be sent. Today I got a shipping notice for it, but it says it's sent to my home address, which they also have wrong (even though it's my billing address - which also now appears wrong on the shipping notice). They have me in Cummington NJ but I live in Cummington MA. I sent them a note back today, but it's clear to me that I need more help. (To boot, Oct 29 '77 is one of my top five shows of '77 :) Any help is so appreciated thank you! -- Claney

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Hi again Mary, I did just find what I think might be the contact for Dr. Rhino and will send the same note to that email. Not sure if that's what to do, but again thank you for any help you can provide. Just trying to describe the chain of events makes me sound like a crazy person...

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Yay! We are up and dancing again! I hope the tech problems last night weren’t too serious! 😉😆

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Hi, just completed my login (I think...). I'm new on the bus, so just feeling my way around.

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I was wondering when or how I can get the subscription and any info you have on it thanks Jamie

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Has anyone heard about whether or not this series will continue? 10 years is a great run, and one of the highlights to the Holidaze for me.

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I'm trying to place an order, but the screen keeps telling me to update my billing address. I did update my billing address, bit it still keeps telling me to do it. How can I get this to work?

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High-Ho! Still looking for other compulsive vinyl completists to share notes and "myths" of existing rarities. Discography section, ("Coming Soon"...), has been barren for ever. Anyone have any info to share on:
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- Diga Rhythm Band - "Happiness is Drumming"/ "Razooli" - 7" single?
- "Anthem of the Sun" WB 7" Radio Spots?
A 40-Year collection, and a few "ugly rumors" of unknowns still exist. Info & photos welcome! - Way Out West

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HI, Is there a way to search for and reach out to registered users? Im trying to contact someone who recently won 30 days of dead, because they live in the same small town as me.

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I still miss Jerry... The Dead sang at several Giants games over the years.
I first saw the Dead (at the Fillmore) in 1966...and continued to enjoy them till 1995.
They never disappointed their fans.
We still go to Dead & Co when they are in the Bay Area ...and they never disappoint.

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Interesting survey. Love to read your thesis when you're done :)

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I filled in the survey Leenlipham good luck with your thesis.

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As a foreigner from Europe I've noticed that Grateful Dead has a very large fanbase of Trumpers especially from the red states of America. This is confusing, I'm sure the late Jerry would not approve such fascism or would he?

Thanks for any replies.

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It's not unusual in America to see a pickup-truck with a Maga and GD bumper sticker. I have never liked the Dead and their redneck/hillbilly followers.

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HI there,
I am new here. Nice to e-meet you ya'll.
Not sure if this is the right place to post this but I have this book called: THE COMPLETE ANNOTATED GRATEFUL DEAD LYRICS - 2007(PAPERBACK). If anyone in Oz is interested please make contact.
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Hey Now Flea,

Yeah, I had box of rain with the C.D. on top of it! I decided to act upon the wordz in the song, so I left it where it was at and passed it on to the next person. Someone out there is listening to Hunter(live 1990) with a bonus C.D. to go with the lyrics written in the book. As it's been said the songs are about people...Though I'm wondering who said "I'm a loving man" to give Pig Pen a moment towards your book with lyrics. You won't find everything written within the cover...or will you? You decide...not everything is written..and everything sung has yet to be discovered. Well welcome, welcome. It .... "seldom turns out the way it does in a song," yet "once in a while you get shown the light>>>>In the strangest of places if you look at it right." It would be really cool if someone in the vault woke up and found some early vintage stuff while the bussss was rolling along La Honda :) Well, Flea I hope you find some magic written in your book. I know I have enjoyed this roller coaster ride all these years, as there's some alligator outside my door someplace waiting for a snappy biting tune to wake him up. "And we bid you goodnight" Peace, JiMi

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This is what jerry wants. Rest in peace brother!

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Are they pesky flying monkeys still around here, cheers ripple.

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Hey everyone, I'm G. Originally from MA, I currently live in MD; retiring from the military this coming September and moving back to New England. Great site and community here! I've been listening to GD 30 years of my 39 on Earth and love it! Cheers and happy Sunday funday!

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Greetings all, I sent in my postcard in 1971 after buying a copy of Skullfuck, and now here I am! We need to keep the weird alive, while we’re alive, happy to see there’s still lotsa freaks out there!

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It is absolutely outrageous that Dead and Company would push the covid vaccine on its fans. The vaccine has killed 10s of 1000s of people, is experimental and untested, is not a real vaccine and u have a much greater chance of dying from the vaccine than from covid. It is outrageous and reckless and will kill deadheads. U r not doctors or scientists. Watch this video and wake up and immediately remove any vaccine policy to see ur shows and save lives:
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