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    What's Inside:
    7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
    Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
    Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
    Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes
     
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

    Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.
     
    LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973. 
     
    The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.
     
    The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.
     
    All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”  
     
    Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others. 
     
    Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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  • rasta5ziggy
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    Seriously, does anyone ever pay those crazy prices for DaP's or any other releases? I look and laugh when I see those. I've only bought one (DaP #10, with the Bonus disc for $50). It's still my favorite DP. To move on, I really loved the Road Trip series. I only have 2, but they are the killers. Valentine's Day show from the Carousel in "68 and Big Rock Pow Wow, which is on this week's Tapers Section. So nice to hear China not go into Rider, among other surprises.

  • JimInMD
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    Is that this thread is more or less dead.. yet the box set is not sold out and this has got to be one of the most far out excellent box sets to grace my front porch.

    I get the feeling there will be much remorse when you can't buy this here and prices begin to reset on EBay.

    I got an email from EBay this week asking if I was interested on 5/4/72 for somewhere around $450 used.. that was the original cost of the entire box set. Granted, this is not as good but the days of FW69 and E72 travelers box are behind us now.

    Seriously, folks on the fence, get this. It's the real deal.

    As you were

  • JimInMD
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    Holy Flashback is right

    .. I don't think Mr. Rogers approves of our ticket trading culture. He's flipping us the bird.

  • Vguy72
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    Holy flashback Wilfred!....

    ....lots of cool usernames I recognize there.
    October 13th, 2015 was a good day. The day I got my Boxilla.

  • wilfredtjones
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    As seen on 30 trips thread p. 227

    has/wants update
    jcure : love to trade for 6/21/93 pass - my first and only show. Will update when mine arrives. djmac520 : 10-27-91 If anyone wants to trade that ticket PM me. has 6-21-93 pass (not for trade) and ticket 12-12-94 redemption searcher: I've got 10/30/91 Oakland ticket (only $22.50-boy those were the days) and 8/21/93 Eugene backstage pass. Went to all the '94 Eugene shows, and strangely enough don't even remember them playing there in '93 until I saw this. Saw someone has 5-15-93 Vegas, not only went to that but it was my birthday, so I would trade for that. Was also in 4th row in front of Vince on his b-day on 2-21-95 and would trade for that. TERRAPIN_ROB Has Ticket 10-27-1991 Oakland Coliseum Arena Pass 5-22-1993 Shoreline Amphitheatre tysonupina: Would love the '93 Eugene and 10/27/91 igrateful: has 10-30-91 and Deer Creek '93 pass Automaticslim: 2/21/95 Delta Center Salt Lake City pass ready for trade.12/12/94 Oakland Coliseum General Admission ticket not for trade TheDude77: has ticket: Oct. 27, 1991, Oakland and pass: May 15, 1993, Las Vegas hallstallion2005: has ticket stub: 5/27/93 Cal Expo Sacramento CA and backstage pass: 3/22/95 Coliseum Arena Charlotte NC hatch655: has Ticket from 5/27/93 and Pass from 8/22/93 g1u2i3: has Ticket: 1991-10-31 (Oakland Coliseum, Oakland, CA) and Pass: 1993-06-22 (Deer Creek Music Center, Noblesville, IN) BertDert: has Stub: 5/27/93 Sacramento, CA and Pass: 3/22/95 Charlotte, NC Serpent of Dreams: has Ticket: 10/30/91 Oakland Coliseum Arena, Oakland CA and Pass: 8/21/93 Autzen Stadium, Eugene OR EGroesbeck: has ticket Cal Expo Amphitheatre, May 27, 1993 and Pass 2/20/95 Salt Lake City, UT KYTrips: Ticket was from 10/27/1991 - Oakland Coliseum. Backstage Pass was from 6/21/1993 - Deer Creek Univax: has Ticket May 27 93 Cal Expo / Backstage pass June 13, 93 Freedom Hall Louisville KY. mbarilla: has Ticket 3/26/95 Atlanta and Pass 8/22/93 Eugene, OR Shakespeare: has a ticket for 5/27/93 Cal Expo and a pass for 3/22/95 Charlotte. Anttheknee: has ticket for Oct. 28, 1991 and backstage pass for June 16, 1993. MorningSun: has 10/30/91 ticket; 6/21/93 pass. Diggey: has pass from 5/23/93 shoreline amphitheater and ticket is 12/12/94 Oakland. kindagrae: has ticket 5/27/93 Cal Expo Ampitheatre, Sacramento, CA and Backstage pass: "In Attendance" 3/22/95 Charlotte LetitShine: has ticket for 10/27/1991, Oakland Coliseum. b/s pass for 6/9/1993 Palace of Auburn Hills anatexis22: has ticket 5/27/93 Cal Expo Ampitheatre, Sacramento, CA backstage pass is 3/26/95 The Omni, Atlanta, GA D_MCK : has ticket 10/30/91 Gen Admission Oakland Coliseum Arena Back Stage Pass 8/21/93 Autzen Stadium Eugene Oregon Mr. Jack Straw: has ticket: 10/28/91 and Backstage pass: 8/22/93 chitownrider: has Ticket 10/27/91 Oakland Backstage Pass 6/6/93 Giants Stadium Born Cross Eyed... : ticket: 10/30/91 Oakland Coliseum Arena and backstage pass: 6/19/93 Soldier Field, Chicago IL kevinbrandon: has MAY 27,1993 TICKET and THE BACKSTAGE PASS IS FROM JUNE 15, 1993 Atticstrophic : has Ticket: 10/30/91. and Pass: 2/25/95. brobb: has Ticket from May 27, 1993 Cal Expo and Backstage pass from March 26, 1995 The Omni johnmd750: has 12/12/94 Oakland for ticket, and 2/21/95 Salt Lake for backstage pass. wjonjd: has ticket 10-30-91 and pass for SLC 2/21/95 (NFT, yet) chastason: I'd love to trade for Autzen 93 (of the dates I've seen posted so far). Ticket: 10/30/91 Oakland Pass: 6/9/93 Auburn Hills King Harvest: Received the 8/15/86 Park City ticket (not fielding trade offers currently) and a 5/23/93 Shoreline pass. deadyogi51: has Ticket October 30, 1991 Oakland and Pass June 18, 1993 Soldier Field, Chicago seabird17: has Pass - 3/24/95 and Ticket - 12/12/94 Oakland Coliseum SPACEBROTHER: has Ticket - 12/12/94 Oakland and Pass - 2/21/95 Salt Lake City ccmuzik: has Cal Expo 5/27/93 ticket and a pass from Charlotte 95 (3/22/95). Moses Quasar : has ticket 5/27/93 Cal Expo and pass 8/22/93 Autzen deadheadbrewer: got a ticket for 12/08/94, and a pass for 3/23/95 KayakGuy: has Cal Expo 5/27/93 ticket and pass is for 3/22/95 Charlotte rdevil: has 10-27-91 ticket, 6-11-93 pass Born Cross Eyed: ISO: 10/27/91 show ticket. Will trade my 10/30/91 Oakland TICKET. Wants to keep 6/19/93 Soldier Field Pass. corvette1982: has Pass - 1995-02-21 - Salt Lake City, Utah Ticket - 1994-12-12 - Oakland Coliseum Arena - Oakland, California Dennis Wilmot: has Tix - 10/27/91 - Oakland Col BSP - 6/9/93 - Auburn Hill, Michigan jbxpro: Ticket is 1993-05-27, Cal Expo, Sacramento CA; backstage pass is 1995-03-22, Coliseum Arena, Charlotte NC. mrogers: has Backstage pass for Autzen 8/22/93 and the ticket was Cal Expo 5/27/93. boblopes: has Cal Expo 5/27/93 ticket and pass is for 3/22/95 Charlotte kenco: has Ticket for 5/27/93 Cal Expo & BSP 8/22/93 Autzen akpon9: has Ticket: Oakland Coliseum Oct. 30, 1991 Backstage Pass: Eugene Aug. 21, 1993 skeebe: has Ticket - 1991-10-27 Oakland Coliseum Backstage - 1993-06-11 - Buckeye direwulf: has Backstage pass: 06-18-93 Soldier Field and Ticket: 10-30-91 Oakland Coliseum abrazen: has 3/23/95 Charlotte pass 12/8/94 Oakland ticket WarEagleRK: inserts were the pass for Philly 3/17/95 and the ticket for Oakland 12/8/94 Sixtus_: has Ticket: Cal Expo, 5/27/93 and Backstage Pass: Delta Center 2/19/95 anyone is interested in a swap, PM me... Mojave: has Ticket: October 30, 1991- Oakland Coliseum, Pass: August 22, 1993 Autzen Stadium, Eugene Oregon robshead: has Ticket 10/30/91 Oakland, CA; Backstage Pass 8/22/93 Eugene spascarella: has Ticket 10/27/91 Oakland CA. Backstage pass is 06/08/93 Auburn Hills, MI natas2210: has Ticket Stub: 10/27/91 Oakland Backstage Pass: 5/16/93 Las Vegas Zuckfun: has ticket 12/08/1994 Oakland Coliseum Arena,CA backstage pass 03/23/95 Coliseum Arena Charlotte, NC Open to Trades dedhed76: has Ticket stub 10-30-91 and Pass 8-22-93 jonothan lake: has ticket Oakland Coliseum 28th October, 1991,Backstage pass Eugene, Oregon,22nd August,1993. ottihead: has ticket 10-28-1991 and pass 02-19-1995 brian hahne: has ticket - 5/27/93 General Admission and Backstage pass - 3/22/95 lowspark75: has Ticket: Oct 30, 1991 Oakland and Pass: June 9, 1993 Auburn Hills Alain: has Ticket: October 28, 1991. and Pass: March 23, 1995. Dancin' Rick Chinacat: has Ticket for 10-27-91 Oakland, a show I was at and Pass 6-8-93 Auburn Hills. mjzeee: has Ticket: 10/30/91. Backstage pass: 6/8/93 drshakedown74: has Ticket stub 10/30/91 Pass- 8/22/93 Open to Trades on ticket only dead tanuki: has ticket 10/27/91 Oakland Coliseum, and pass 6/8/93 Palace of Auburn Hills. Roland Bruynesteyn: has ticket October 30, 1991, bsp February 25 shawndog: has Ticket: 10-27-1991 and Pass: 5-23-1993 JeffSmith: has Cal Expo 5/27/93 and Pass: Charlotte Coliseum 3/22/95 birdynumnumz: has TICKET: October 30, 1991 Oakland and PASS: June 8, 1993 Auburn Hills ivhs72: has Oct. 30, 1991 Oakland Coliseum, and the backstage pass is from the May 15, 1993 Silver Bowl. Would like to trade either my pass or ticket for the same to any show in Oregon muleskinner_blues: has Ticket 10/30/91 Oakland Coliseum and Pass 8/22/93 Eugene, OR Vguy72: has ticket Oakland Coliseum 10.27.91 and Backstage is Deer Creek 6.21.93 DeadJeffinPDX: has Ticket from 10/27/91 - Oakland Coliseum Arena and Backstage pass from Auburn Hills - 6/8/93 NWScarletFireGuy: has a Ticket from 10/27/91 Oakland, Pass 6/8/93 Auburn Hills Frampton: has ticket 10/27/91 Oakland Coliseum, and pass is 6/11/93 at the Buckeye Lake antonjo: has ticket Oakland Coliseum, Oct 30, '91 and Stage pass is Vegas Silver Bowl, May 15, '93. snafu: has ticket Oakland Coliseum, Oct 30, '91 and pass not disclosed (yet) Rambler: has 10/27/91 stub and 6-11-93 Buckeye Music Center pass. snowball: has Ticket: Oakland Coliseum October 30, 1991 and Pass: Deer Creek June 22, 1993 Willysin4wd: has 8/22/93 Eugene Pass, and Oakland Coliseum Space Head 10/30/91 ticket (i think i went to this show!) Europe61: has ticket 10-28-1991 Oakland and backstage pass 8-22-1993 Eugene ozdh: has 10/28/91 oakland - ticket, 6/16/93 freedom hall, louisville - backstage pass johnny361: has Ticket 12/8/94 Oakland and pass 3/24/95 Charlotte drsox: has 2 backstage passes for June 16, 1993 at Freedom Hall, Louisville AND 2 tickets for October 28, 1991 at Oakland Coliseum Arena jerboo22: has Ticket: 28 October 1991, Oakland Coliseum, Oakland and Pass: 16 June 1993, Freedom Hall, Louisville masonskids: has ticket 10/30/91, pass from 8/21/93. Southwest: has Ticket 28 Oct 91 Oakland 22.50 and Backstage Pass 19 Feb 95 Salt Lake Gary Farseer: has Ticket 10/27/91 Oakland and Pass 6/11/93 Buckeye Lake Arno: has Ticket: Oakland Coliseum October 30, 1991 and Backstage Pass: Coliseum Arena, Charlotte March 23, 1995 nitecat: has ticket 10/30/91 Oakland and Pass Freedom Hall 6-16-93 Big Brownie: has ticket: 10/27/91 Oakland and backstage pass: 6/16/93 Louisville

  • icecrmcnkd
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    I don’t recall ever getting tickets in the mail separately from a Box (not including mail order).
    But do recall that some Boxes came with tix.
    I’ll have to check page 227.

  • nitecat
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    Wilfred, I checked and did find ticket facsimiles in the Spring 1990 box, which I was referring to. After your post, I checked my 30 Trips box and didn't find anything. Then my girlfriend checked and found a ticket and a pass inside the book. I am reporting late, but I got a10/30/1991 ticket and a 6/16/1993 backstage pass. Probably just forgot about them. Thanks for shaking up the memory cells!

  • wilfredtjones
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    It was definitely with 30 Trips because I made a running tally of what everyone was getting in order to facilitate trades, of which there were several. I'll have to hop over to the show page to see if you reported any contemporaneously with the release itself back in 2015. I'll report back in a bit. Maybe you were snubbed? There were replica tickets with Spring 90 and also the Warlocks box, too if memory serves. But, the 30 Trips ones were authentic I believe, not replicas.

    -edit- I just checked it out and indeed nitecat you did not report receiving any tickets or passes at the time. Scroll ahead to page 227 (yes it's pretty deep into the thread) to see the list. Just type in '30 Trips' into the search bar.

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    Funny I don't have any tickets with my 30 Trips, just a book and a scroll, but I do recall getting a little packet of tickets and back stage passes with one of my Spring 90 boxes. Don't have time to check which one right now.

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    Good thing no one yelled, "Fetch!"

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes
 
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.
 
LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973. 
 
The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.
 
The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.
 
All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”  
 
Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others. 
 
Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

....as the Wichita show a month later, I think we will all be very satisfied.
One of my favorite Dave's.
And, if the '73 Kiel shows are anywhere close as mind blowing as the Pauley show a month later, I KNOW we will all be very, very satisfied.
Also one of my favorite Dave's.

As Isaac Hayes once opined, "You're damn right." I've been hoping for 10/18 as a Dave's Pick for a long time. I figured Texas, immediately after Wichita would be the box, but I like this, because you get an idea for a run of shows typical for the eras in my own personal sweet spot of eras rather than just Fall '72.

On the size of the box, if it's big like PacNW, I'll grumble and find a shelf for it. The organizing cubes make fantastic vinyl holders as well as display shelves for your Dead collection. Currently two cubes for The Who, one ABB, and eight Dead spread across an 8 cube and a 4 cube organizer. Really sturdy ones will hold a lot of albums. Ikea has good ones at a decent price called Kallax. Sorry for the ad, but just thinking with these big boxes, if you want them out and not in the closet, you gotta find a spot that one's spouse or partner can at least live with, maybe even tolerate if you keep it neat. Which reminds me, on a third unit I have the 30 Trips box and Giants Stadium, RFK '89, Crimson White and Indigo, and Wake Up to Find Out upon it. But, I don't have a problem...

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Have my order in and very excited about these shows! October is way too far away...

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....to say it can't come soon enough is an understatement.
I'm vaxxed and will still wear a mask. Don't get me wrong. I have a nice couch, but I really need to boogie.
It's in my rDNA.
I pray that the vaccine argument doesn't trickle down into the stands.
Vegas is a Hotspot currently. Masks mandates are back in vogue.

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"....but I don't have a problem."

I don't have a problem either. I completely ran out of space for any more box sets. Then I realized just how much space those urns were taking up on the mantel. Now I have room for a few more big box sets. See, no problem here.

Really psyched for this box.. It turned out to be much better than I had hoped.. we get the full 72 run, plus 71 and 73 for good measure. And to be honest, I paid less attention to those years which I sort of anticipate giving me much more than I anticipated. Value often hinges on expectations.. if something exceeds expectations then it's wonderful.. yet if something falls short of expectations, even if it is truly excellent.. there is a bit of a letdown. I ordered mine immediately. I don't really give a crap how long it takes to sell out so long as my order went through.

As you were..., back to your regularly scheduled Dark Star > Morning Dew.

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Can't Believe we will be getting these 7 shows. Three of my favorite years for Grateful Dead Music. I think Dave hit a Home Run with this Boxset. October 1st can't come soon enough.

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So, the box is announced, and I am in, first order from Dead net after a whole series of ordering fiascos last year. Lets hope they have their sh*t together this time.
Great to see some love for Kaleidoscope, the LA band not the twee( sorry Daverock) UK band.
They were Plant and Zeppelins perfect live band, according to a Plant interview where he referenced their live shows which included Flamenco and belly dancers, unfortunately they were less well serviced by their 4 original albums,( before their very own hiatus) the first in particular is very jugbandy, think Charlatans. But by Beacon they began to show their potential, I will put my neck out and say that with the decent recording, a Bear type regime of recording live shows, and a record company that were prepared to put out a Live Dead type package in 69, they could have gone on to rival the Dead, and I say that not lightly.
Never had to much about them in print, however the estimable ZigZag had a highly entertaining 3 part series/interviews which greatly enhanced their legend, how much of it was true, and if in fact, any of it was based on actual interviews, is moot!
TAXIM!

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I meant to check in here during the day after the 12/10/71 CD leaked on Amazon, but then was completely distracted by work. So I checked in after work and saw the dead.net home page: 20 CD Box Set '71, '72, '73. A wave of "ohhhhh fuuuuck" washed over me as I realized the thing had already been on sale all day.

So I began the process of frantically looking for my wallet. Nowhere to be found. Retrace your steps is what I was always taught to do. Left it in my car, right. Ran out to the driveway and there it was right on the passenger front seat. But my car was locked. You gotta be kidding me. At that point I had pictures in my head of returning and seeing a sold-out ribbon on the top left corner of the box set. Did I mention my wife had never seen Pulp Fiction until we queued it up over the weekend? Yeah, so I've been throwing quotes from that one all week, mostly Marsellus Wallace with his chill cool demeanor. So anyway, I began the process of frantically looking for my keys. Not so easy as retracing my steps because my wife drove my car last.

After checking all the usual places unsuccessfully, I had a better idea - wife's credit card. I started dumping the contents of her handbag overboard onto the couch. Found the credit card, started ordering, and of course she walks in with a mouth full of expletives when she saw her stuff all over the couch. I usually just blame the kids for stuff like this after the fact, but I was literally caught in the act. And worse was the reason she came in the room at all - kids were fighting and I'm supposed to "do something about it" while this panicked purchase frenzy is going on.

I took a deep breath and said Marsellus Wallace style (which she's been enduring since Sunday), "go in the other room and chill those mother ******* out. Come back in 20 seconds and then I need you to pretty please with sugar on top read your credit card number to me, because I don't have my glasses and this shit is small".

So she comes back I'm as I'm filling this thing out and sees the price tag in the shopping cart. "Why do you need another box set with all the same music?" she demanded.
Marsellus replied, "because there's 3 mother ****** Bird Songs".

She sighed and gave in, knowing quite well she has me out-spent 10 to 1. She finished reassembling the contents of her handbag, and as she left the room said, "your glasses are probably with your keys and wallet."

There has been speculation as to what we will be charged under the new UK Tax regulations.

As the box set is over the new £135 limit introduced in January 2021, 20% Import VAT will be levied by the UK Tax Authorities. At todays Exchange Rate the VAT will be £32.86. This will need to be paid to the courier company before delivery who will also charge a handling fee (£8 if it is a standard Royal Mail delivery, considerably more from most other couriers). There should be no Import Duty applied as commercial CD's attract a 0% Duty rate. The 2.5% Import Duty mentioned previously only applies to gifts.

If there was a UK shop set up to sell the box (someone like Amazon for example) then they would be charging us the same 20% Sales VAT.

For deliveries under the £135 value, the new rules are that the seller must charge the 20% VAT on ordering and pay that direct to the UK Government.

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Mr Jack Straw I also don't post much but read everything here daily. Lots of great Dead commentary. I was surprised by your high praise of the 5/19/74 jam. And not because there's anything wrong with it. Because in a world where there are 100s of Grateful Dead shows released, there are so many great second set jams that I am interested to know what makes 5/19/74 a 10/10 for you. I have mentally stored it as somewhere around 8 /10 which is awesome in my mind. May be an A minus. I would give a jam like the DaP 5 Playing > UJB > Dew > UJB > Playing a 10/10. Or E72 has that big DS > Uncle > DS > Wharf Rat > Sugar Mags 10/10. I will listen much more openly to 5/19/74. Happy for the heads up!

Sorry to those oversea who pay more and wait longer. I guess you don't go for Ebay out of print shows and boxes either? Talk about expensive.

KeithFan that ordering ordeal you had made me laugh here in the wee hours of the morning. Great movie I remember when it came out and I saw it in the theater. I walked thinking John Travolta was a lot cooler than I remembered.

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didn't receive an order confirmation from deadnet, as usual.
The payment went straight through to Warner Elektra and was confirmed right away.
No reply from customer service yet.
I'm thinking of ordering another box, just to make sure I get a copy.
Is there anybody else with the same experience?
Gerd

I received my confirmation email. Have you checked your spam or junk mail folder??

That being said, I have heard of this situation before... but not for quite some time.

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You can check the status of your order on dead.net. To do that you need the order number that came with your confirmation mail. Just because you didn't get a confirmation mail doesn't mean you can't find your order number. If you paid using PayPal, the order number is shown as the invoice id in your PayPal account or in the payment confirmation mail. If you were really smart, you would have taken a screenshot of the order page after submitting your order. The order number was shown there.

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I had tears coming down my face I was laughing so hard. Sorry for your panic attack, but damn that was a funny story!

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Thanks,
well, I have an order number through my payment. But this number doesn't show anything in my deadnet account. Unfortunately I wasn't smart enough to take a screenshot. Expected everything goes the usual way.
My spam folder is clean.
Hmmmh
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“Usually, I just blame the kids for stuff like this...” 😂
Women Rule!

As has been said, log into the GD Store (store.dead.net) with your email address and order number. However, if you don't have a number for the box, you can actually use any previous order number. I just logged in with my Dave's Picks 2017 order number and can see everything I've ever ordered from them.

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Classic Keithfan!

My wife has the same comments on my Dead collection. We have a Sonos system on our main floor and if you pull up the music library by song, the first one you see is Around and Around. You have 45 Around and Arounds, she said?
I said yes, and they are all different, that is the beautiful part about the Grateful Dead. Que eye roll!

So the release date for #39 is next Friday, July 30, 2021. Subscribors are supposed to receive their copies before the release date so when is Rhino going to send out the Email announcement?

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If your order number doesn't show up in your orders list, then I would get in touch with customer service. Sending a PM to Marye at the same time is a good idea.

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Keithfan: Was hard to drink coffee while reading your ordering saga. Still laughing. Glad you got your order in after all was said and done. I'm sure just about everybody around here has watched it, but if you haven't seen the "I NeedMore Shows" cartoon on youtube, now might be a good time. Regardless of his Keith avatars, thanks to Keithfan's story and this cartoon, I now have an indelible image of what Keithfan looks like etched in my mind. Onward.

youtube.com/watch?v=yfy3uJrfVWo

Gerd: Hope you get your order confirmed without further nerve-racking silence from cuss-tomer "service". Sounds like a job for MaryE!

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Not selling out any time soon... some of you hoping for a bit more time to hit click can breathe easy, at least imo. Just look at the 2018 PNW 73-74 box, which only recently sold out. Of course PNW was limited to 15k, this one to 13k. How long did July 78 take to sell out... and RFK 89 (which I love, also 15k btw) is still available. That said, I ordered my copy right away (and yes, if anyone is wondering, received email confirmation). Good weekend, y'all!

i dont know as much about him as i should but he is an amazing instrumentalist (anything with strings from any part of the world) and one of the best slide guitar and lap steel players i know, in addition to work with jackson browne (including running on empty) and ry cooder he has had extensive other session dates and a solo career including my favorite... his band El Rayo-X

the "pup" in the pic is a 12 year old english bulldog named milton, he has heard a lot of dead

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the title song to kaleidoscope's second album (68) is worth commenting on, this 12.5 min track seems to be an homage to howlin wolf and smokestack, it has kick ass harp, shades of interstellar overdrive and some very imaginative and musical feedback by mr lindley that (well im just gonna say it) rivals anything ive heard from the dead the who or jimi, their 67 68 and 69 albums give the dead's records from those years a run for their money, but as the dead got better and better kaleidoscope waned probably from lack of large scale success and their 1970 album (while pretty good) is def no workingman's beauty, the word eclectic seems to have been coined for them

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This box set looks fantastic. It is right in my wheelhouse-- some Pigpen, fall 72 and any 73 is very welcome. Vguy, that Wichita show is still one of my favorite Dave's Picks and I expect these shows to rival that one.

I don't pick up the box set every year. In fact, other than the Winterland 73 and 77 boxes, I have only bought the July 78 and June 76 boxes. I pulled the trigger immediately for this one. For packaging, I really like the 78 and 76 boxes-- compact and beautiful. I still look at the artwork of the 76 box and it perfectly captures the elegance of the theaters they played.

Keithfan-- great story. I would not have gotten away with the Marcellus Wallace lines to my wife, I can guarantee that!

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Another creatively hilarious and true-to-form gem my friend.

I could totally hear Marsellus Wallace; deep and menacing in your frenzied recounting.
Keepin it real, we all thank you for the ongoing guffaws.

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Bacon /pigmeat from outerspace,
Is taken from the infamous Zigzag history/ interviews about the band.Supposedly written by Mac Garry, an early Zigzag writer if I remember correctly, but his name resurrected for this series of articles by I think Pete Frame, follows a US trip where Zigzag tracked down their musical heros, but I suspect any interviews, if indeed they ever took place, were lacking in verifiable detail, but were padded out by scurrilous and tongue in cheek anecdotes. Or perhaps the band did just not take themselves too seriously. An alternative history?or perhaps one as seen from the other end of the kaleidoscope?
What ever, it was the most entertaining rock writing I ever read, and I have ever since, used the allternative title, Bacon.

Just listen to Banjo from the record Incredible, it is fantastic! And then Cuckoo, before the magnificent Seven ate sweet.
Kaleidoscope prepared the ground for a serious love of Turkish instrumental music.
Their name accurately sums up what they were about, a kaleidoscope of musical influences.

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with cheese

Gonna call up some Deadheads and go psychedelic on his synapses with some blotter and a bong

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....Three tomatoes are walking down the street, papa tomato, mama tomato, and baby tomato. Baby tomato starts lagging behind. The papa tomato gets really angry, goes back and squishes him, says: “Ketchup!”

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Or something like that - I'll explain in a minute. First - thanks for posting that video. It's been a couple years and I always have to watch it twice. I remember the first time Jim posted it several years ago, and thought, nobody but we here on dead.net truly get the brilliance of it.

So, what really got me this time, is the wife in the video complains the outstanding "fraudulent" charge is $439. Hmmmm. That number sounded awfully familiar. I bought two copies of the box set (just in case). Checked my order email and with taxes and shipping it came to... yeah - $439 and change.

My vote for DaP 39 is 7/25/74. We need that last Dark Star from '74.

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No, Bernice is no Workingmans, unlike the Dead I suspect the various musical influences pulled the band apart, the Deads greatness is in part due to their ability to synthesis the various musical traditions that the individual members brought to the mix. I suspect lack of success and an incomprehending music biz prevented the band Kaleidoscope from developing, and synthesising the various musical traditions so that often, I feel the musics full potential is not realised.
I think that Lindley has been a bit sniffy about the band during subsequent interviews, but they occupy a very special place in my heart.
Of course a similar trajectory can be devined if you observe the wonderful Mad River, Lawrence Hammond tells of listening by himself at a party to stacks of Country albums, and enjoying them much more than Mad Rivers music, (think Quicksilver, but with 3 (!)lead guitars). The Dead sublated Dark Star,/ Other One, and seamlessly moved onto Workingmans, the various strands woven into a new whole fabric!
Other bands simply disintegrated, citing artistic differences.

Gerd - I didn't initially get email confirmation when I ordered Dave's 38 earlier this year, which I bought a la carte. I emailed Marye, who told me she would contact Dr Rhino (?) to see what had gone wrong. She then got back to me and said my order had gone through alright, there were just delays sometimes sending confirmation out at the moment due to all the upheavals. And sure enough, I did get the email about a week or so after making the order-and got Dave's 38, too, more to the point.

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You guys really have to stop. I got the Maria Schneider cd DeadHeadBrewer recommended(It's nice!!). Now I've just splurged for a Kaleidoscope 3-disc set. I'm honestly trying to cut back, but you guys are having no mercy!!
And Dave, If my wife so much as finds this site, I'm a Dead man(literally!!). She won't recognize the name, but my avatar is a Dead(there's that word again) giveaway!!
I need a place to Hideaway!!

Music is the best, but it might be the death of me!!

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If the only thing you can take with you beyond the grave are your memories, music will be essential to the journey. The music that drives your soul past the known universe will have to be powerful and deep. Any good memories of life will have the background sound of YOUR music,,,,,, ok even the bad memories. (two out of three ain't bad, right)

If your spiritual essence is important to you, then the investment in your future journey is very important. If you went to a church they would expect 10%. Are you investing 10% of your income to YOUR future?

Wives,,,, what can you say, that they don't say about husbands?

Don't tell Denise about the box,,,, she's working 18 hours a day for OUR future and here I am investing in vinyl that will melt at the first good house fire. But I'm sure Allstate will give me true value for E72 and those purple Zappa albums are probably still available. :-)

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I have a feeling 39 will be either a Pigpen or Brent show. The past few years have had a least one 80s issue, and we haven’t seen a Pigpen show since volume 30 I think. As far as what I’d want shows I’d want to see, 2/14/86(trust me) would be fun. February ‘86 may as well have been ‘85. Those shows are very good. Shows like 10/11/83 or 4/8/89 would be nice to have officially. I’m not so well versed in Pigpen era Dead, but it’d would be nice to have a release from then too.

I own and love every Box Set the Dead have released, and this is definitely one of the best ones yet. Capturing this transformational period in the Dead’s journey represents some of the most elegant and tasteful music they ever created, not to mention the extraordinary performances during this run. I can’t wait to hear each of these shows in all their Plangent Process glory.

Reading some of the responses here, I must be in the minority here. When I texted my wife the day of this announcement, she ordered it before texting me back. Not only that but she included the 5LP set and the 2LP set as well. She even threw in the slip mat for good measure.

On the product details tab in this box set offering, the dimensions should be added, let's just put 11 inches high x 11 inches wide x 4 inches deep for an example. Also, add the weight - let's say 4 pounds for example.

20 CD custom box set and the 13,000 unit limit with the release date are all good and fine, but it would be good to know more details of what you're getting.

Dennis knows what he’s talking about.

Kayak guy told me a few years ago that he viewed all his work collecting music as building his Audio 401k for retirement.

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I ordered the same day River was announced but find it interesting that aside from the 20 discs we have no idea what it looks like.

Dave L did reference that the package was wonderful to put on our shelf, talked about the booklet's liner notes, writers, photos, etc.

But I realized how big of a step we DHs will take to get the music. I think it means my/our confidence level is high enough to buy the music without even knowing what the package will look like.

For me, this was an after-the-purchase surprise. I usually wouldn't buy something this substantial w/o having a better idea of what else I'm getting. Guess I trust that they (Dave and team) will deliver the goods.

Thanks Dave and team!

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Every so often gotta give it a listen

Moonlight on Vermont......

I wish someone would create a cannabis variety called Trout Mask Indica

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If not a greasy Pig Pickin', I can do '91, but would request Greensboro 3/31-4/1/91 on a 4cd set like DaP 36. That way we get two great Hornsby entries that are short enough to preclude box set treatment and one of them has a fantastic Dark Star. Would also mark the first DAT sourced DaP. But if it's two keyboardists on the next Pick, kinda hoping for TC and Pig. And a great Dark Star would be most welcome. After all, October is a long way off, thus that Fox masterpiece sequence is a long way off...

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:)))

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great to hear fellow Kaleidoscope travelers here...I was lucky to see them quite a few times back in So Cal...A fave was seeing them open for Grateful Dead & The Butterfield Blues Band in '69 at the infamous Rose Palace in Pasadena...Cuckoo, Bald Headed End Of A Broom & of course Taxim were always incredible...someone commented on the two disc set that covers pretty much all their best, just don't ask Lindley to sign it as a friend of mine did...He was polite in his refusal and was willing to sign anything else...do believe somehow the band was screwed out of any royalties on that...if that sound grabs you check out Turkish Psychedelic Guitar Whiz Erkin Koray who turned the Istanbul music scene on it's head back in the late 60's...good stuff...I'd put a lin* here but, well, you know...

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Oh and another thing for you Beacon From Mars lovers...awhile back on another topic I posted the info for a UK based T Shirt Maufacturer who specializes in quality LP cover T shirts...they do have Beacon From Mars and thanks for the reminder, I need to order that...

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A unique band. A friend's cousin brought them to my attention in 1970. Their musicianship was exceptional. David Lindley gets all the plaudits for his skill on any instrument with strings, and rightly so, but the late Chris Darrow was well up there. His post-Kaleidoscope output is well worth checking out. It's a shame that Kaleidoscope fell apart so quickly. Who knows what might have been.

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