. . . to find this one! And, I guess I got one because I found it lots quicker than expected.
Pretty easy to narrow down the time frame, and then it just happened to be a show in my stomping grounds!
Quite a monster setlist! May just have to listen to the whole show tomorrow. Thanks, Dave!
The clue and the sound make this an easy one--nice to not have to work too hard and can just listen. In fact, I think this is the first time I got it on the first date I tried.
it doesnt really take off at the end
This Scar-Fire search is bringing back deja vu moments. Happens quite a lot on here this time of year actually! Love these early Brent versions. He had that sweet, soulful voice and absolutely ripped the keys. Such a change from the late Keith versions.
... right away. A nice walk down Scarlet Fire lane through that year and found it by matching the keys build up flourish after the "... strangest of places..." lyrics.
the clue dosen't lead me anywhere and i think it is 1979-80 but cant find a scarlet fire this short.
Tip: Don't let timing of songs here on the dead.net site versus other sites lead you astray. Many recordings will have extra tuning or "dead air" at the beginning or end of songs which results in a misleading total time displayed on those sites
There are many dates, but looking ... I think it is at the end of the first month or the beginning of the second, in IL! In the same 78!
Correct me if I'm wrong!
Not quite sure i understood but it does not sound like you are on the right track. I don't want to give away more though. Have fun!
Some have mentioned in the past that they like it when the comments do not include years, locations, etc that hint too exactly. At least early in the day. Just a suggestion not a command. But it's fun to "dance around" the words when giving help. Have fun.
As dougbr1ne said, it’s fun to ‘dance around the words’ when giving help in the comments instead of giving direct answers, or dates, or venues. So that makes it hard to answer you directly.
BUT one tip I’d give is that if you ‘think’ you found it, synch it up with the download from dead.net, and you WILL have your answer…yay, or nay. Another way is to find something distinct about the song of the day and see if it's also present in the one you ‘think’ you found. And a above all else…HAVE FUN!
Have fun with it if possible. I have spent hours and hours today to the point of making things unfun
This was a little tougher that I thought but think I got it. Just listen to the music play!
Here is why. Because there are so many shows that are released officially there are fewer and fewer shows out there that we know and thus songs we know. The last 10 years of releases have gobbled up allot of what I have heard before making it much harder to determine what I am hearing. So hints and suggestions are welcome I say because this has become more difficult!
Exactly. Help others. Guide them a bit. Be creative in the help and a sense of humor helps all around to kindle the camp fire of conversation.
But avoid stating exact years, venues, cities etc. That's too much. And maybe exact band members too when it comes to keys and backing vocals, at least early in the day.
..which is cool! But it's funny because I was close to giving up. I completely blew the year guess and thought '73-'74, so that's where I started. Then I went back to '72. Then back to Keith's first show 10-19-71. I at least knew it was Keith on keys. Listened to a lot of Bertha's until I heard the announcer say, "Great big welcome for the Grateful Dead," with a slight southern drawl. Scarlet-Fire today! Let's go!
I heard Keith, one drum kit, no Donna So figured either late '71 or late '73
to the scorching hot guitar licks, to those two little words Jerry chose to omit during Scarlet Begonias, I just can't say enough about how grate these particular songs go together. They must truly love each other. Happy platinum anniversary Scarlet/ Fire!
Yeah, I was sweatin' it for a little while but I began to chill when I used the omission
Seriously Dave, if you read these comments, and the rights are not held outside of GDP, I'd buy it in a heart beat.
Yes this would be a fun release run
In the strangest of places if you look at it right
It takes all you got just to find the right beat
This one took a while. Lots of versions to sort through.
Now it's time I get up, get out of the door
Good luck all!
I reckon I got it right.
I had this one narrowed down to a two year time frame based on the backing vocals. It was cool to finally find the version where Jerry omits a key word here & there. Great version. Shoot... I gotta download this one too.
Apologies to all if the Jerry omission hint was too obvious. I was thinking helpful at first, but it does kinda ferret it out a little too easily. Sorta like Karl the greenskeeper @ Bushwood Country Club in Caddyshack using water or dynamite to flush that furry rodent out of it's hole. If you want to catch a rodent, you've got to be subtle and think like a rodent.
I too think this would be a great part of a box set of that run. However, I believe I heard from a reputable source that the multi tracks of this run are missing permanently, due to being reused and recorded over.
Man, I’ve never struggled this hard, except for the studio outtakes and soundchecks. This is nuts. Good job to all of you who found it.
Easy to pick up on era, a little tougher for the Show! Glad to see you all!
Looking at the comments, everyone seems to be able to pick out the show based on almost no information at all. I poured over Dead Base X and can find nothing to point me in the right direction. Oh yeah...the "hints" still suck.
Scarlet > Fire is the shit! I mean we all knew that already but man o man….
Honed in on this one pretty quick, but got sidetracked by some insane versions! Had to give some serious listens to some bonkers combos, time sure does go by quick by when Jerry is floating along riding that butterfly!
when the songs sync up smoothly and you just enjoy the ride!
Looking Dead Ahead...
Sometimes I think I’m pretty clever, and can come up with a good hint, yet the fine line at times of being too captain obvious and too sargeant obtuse often leads to keep it to myself. You all are the truth, the professors, from whom I’ve learned so much, and I appreciate your continued desire to admonish and lend a stranger’s hand to help a stranger. Peace.
Time is winding down & I just can't find the answer :(
The hint provided on site is helpful, if you think about it. Not necessarily for the particular show, but for narrowing it down. That is, if I have the show correct (and I am pretty sure I do). After all, once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
... a whole lot of bubbly! ;~}
Don’t despair! The answers are there.
To flounderfe & other weary travelers, I offer a few hopefully helpful tips.
Yep, usually the official “hints” aren't really hints at all, so don't depend on them. Years ago, they often gave actual helpful hints, but now they're more like factual statements. BUT, here in the Comments you may find some hints from fellow travelers—veiled, suggestive, hidden, but kindly crafted to hopefully help.
You “poured over Dead Base X and can find nothing to point me in the right direction.” That’s right—DeadBase is one resource, but using only DeadBase may not point you anywhere. That’s when you need your bag of tricks.
You said, “…everyone seems to be able to pick out the show based on almost no information at all.” But really there’s TONS of info available(!) that comes from listening CLOSELY to the performance for band members & sounds that lead to the year/era/timeframe, and looking at song length, etc.
Then look for something that stands out to you. There are NUMEROUS hints in any performance…like wrong lyrics, word omissions, a bad chord, feedback, drums or other instruments, a guitar or piano filigree, or even crowd noise/screams/nuances before or after the song, or a fade out into the ‘next’ song. Choose a couple things that stand out to you, THEN go look for them on your favorite setlist site (listed by others previously). Once you find them—Eureka! You got it! You can also sync it with the performance from Dave if need be.
Hope this helps a bit!
greetings fellow dead scholars...
it's been a year & whatta year it's been...
an honour & a pleasure to be back with y'all...
a no-stress 3 fo 3 sofar, definitely appreciate the relatively easy start, but now that i said it...
it appears we've all been accounted for cept brother D-Rae, have u heard from him lately, Hornsby?
hope our breddren is well...
as for this S>Fire, that missing word in the 1st verse helped narrow it down quick, got it 3rd listen...
drowned in your laughter...
& dead to the core... ♤
...ever grateful said previously. The opening is pretty distinct if you listen closely. I felt I was able to eliminate several versions based on Bobby's licks alone. Earlier comment about the piano sound helped, too. The transition is pretty recognizable as well if you need to verify. It took some digging as usual but it can be done. I feel like I only used up part of my morning at work rather than the whole thing like with Bertha. Great stuff.
Oh yeah, and the hint is again useless.