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    “We’re just now starting to loosen up to the point where we were, say, back in 1970, ’72, where we can start drifting from key to key, from rhythm to rhythm, and in the jams, some interesting stuff has come up. Once again, we’re tending to go new places every night.” - Bob Weir, Rolling Stone, 1980

    3/9/91 at Madison Square Garden delivers all that. It's got color and texture and freshness, keyboardist Brent Mydland's Hammond organ painting a new layer for the Dead to dabble on. And dabble they did, from the "shot out of a cannon" opener of "Feels Like A Stranger" to the "fleeting romance of 'Althea,'" to the high-gloss 80s blues of the first set to the second set, both intense ("China>Rider", "Samson And Delilah," "Estimated Prophet") and dramatic ("Ship Of Fools," "Stella Blue) in its ability wrap you up its spirals and accents. It's all undergone Plangent Processes tape restoration and speed correction, with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. Hot, hot, hot!

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  • Dennis
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    Bob & LP

    I ordered from experience for 125.

    I don't think it's an "Official" release. Experience site say "label - grateful dead/wea"? Maybe it's a record store thing?

    We'll see how fast it ships! How long did we wait for the Vault stuff :-)

    Sidebar - should have gotten the Axe!!

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    @Elbow49 - did you pre-order for ~$125?

    Was wondering if the going rate is $125. Little cautious after seeing the DP1 re-release initially released @ $99, then others had it $199, then I thought I saw others had it at $149.

    Funny no initial announcement from this site...

    Thanks!

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    MSG 3/9/81 LP

    I pre ordered mine from the In Groove in Arizona.

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    This show getting the vinyl treatment in Rocktober 2023

    Saw an email from Experience Vinyl listing this show as a vinyl release for Rocktober, coming out on 10/6. They have it listed as $124.98 for what appears to be a five album release. Nothing on dead.net or rhino.com. So if there's a Rocktober vinyl day, will that be 3 days of limited edition vinyl releases?

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    Jerry And The Chipmunks

    I'm hearing it again on third listen.
    This cassette master had speed issues.
    And Plangent didn't completely fix it.
    Jerry and Bob sound a bit like pre-teens whose voices haven't changed yet.
    Especially noticeable on Ship of Fools, but consistent throughout.
    I played it on both of my CD players and it's the same. It's not off by much, maybe 1%- 2% judging by the correction factor my cassette deck has on it's 5% total adjustability of the pitch control knob. (Some of my old tapes which were copied on a faulty speed deck need as much as the whole 5% range that the pitch control offers.) So that's what I'm judging it by.
    Not that I really care as the show is great and I would want it anyway. And like I said on another post (DaP44) it is just barely noticeable and no one else has commented on this * so it could be I'm trippin'. No biggie, just sayin'.
    Cheers
    * Now Big Brownie has noticed it on a different show in the box too.

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    After a better second listen, I agree with the overall comments about the mix. Phil’s bass and Bob’s guitar are buried beneath Jerry and Brent. But, I hear Phil at least some of the time. Bob is faint, at best, although that might, in part, have to do with Brent’s sound choice on the keys. That said, I’ll listen to these discs again. There are some good moments, including Bird Song. I wish the sound was more balanced, which has been a challenge with DaP from the same era. I’d like to get sound that’s far better than my tape collection—not worse.

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    Surprising dynamic sound. Crow is right, not much Bob.
    But there is a '78 energy to that sound, if that's a thing.
    Brent really did change the coloration and his skill is prodigious.
    Kind of a '78 setlist too. Very impressed on first listen.
    Cheers

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    Did the comment option…

    Did the comment option disappear for new CD releases?

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    wrong date

    3/9/91 at Madison Square Garden delivers all that.

    I think this is 3/9/81. Carry on

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    This conveyance, aka the Louis Dejoy enrichment scheme, puzzles me. UPS sent my 3CD from CA to GJ, CO which is 60 miles away from me, transferred it to the USPS who took it 200 miles away to Denver where it can now come back my way adding a couple of days. How does this make any sense it terms of efficiency or carbon footprint? If they would have put it on a UPS truck in GJ, CO I would have had it yesterday. Don't let it bring you down. It's only castles burning. -Neil Young
    Cheers

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“We’re just now starting to loosen up to the point where we were, say, back in 1970, ’72, where we can start drifting from key to key, from rhythm to rhythm, and in the jams, some interesting stuff has come up. Once again, we’re tending to go new places every night.” - Bob Weir, Rolling Stone, 1980

3/9/91 at Madison Square Garden delivers all that. It's got color and texture and freshness, keyboardist Brent Mydland's Hammond organ painting a new layer for the Dead to dabble on. And dabble they did, from the "shot out of a cannon" opener of "Feels Like A Stranger" to the "fleeting romance of 'Althea,'" to the high-gloss 80s blues of the first set to the second set, both intense ("China>Rider", "Samson And Delilah," "Estimated Prophet") and dramatic ("Ship Of Fools," "Stella Blue) in its ability wrap you up its spirals and accents. It's all undergone Plangent Processes tape restoration and speed correction, with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. Hot, hot, hot!

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Here it is. An early 80's Box Set. Alright!
I know the 81 shows very well. Great 81 shows. Not familiar with 82 and 83 but looking forward to them.

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In text. Says '91 not '81.
I can afford a single show.
China>Rider>Sampson? I'm in!
Have to look that up. The only one of that trio?
Might as well.
Cheers

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...and I remember a NYC punk-Sex Pistol looking-dude spacing to Estimated in the aisle.

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Please clarify, 1981 or 1991? Thanks.

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Vinyl this one please!!! Would love to have this on the wax! Cheers! Can’t wait for the box set! Love it y’all did early 80s, these shows are spectacular, woohoo!

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Back to New York already? I thought surely we’d have more Winterlands, or somewhere else in California, before skipping the entire country and heading back to New York again.

David, your selections remind me of the famous New Yorker magazine cover - New York to California with nothing in between.

Atlanta, all through the 70’s. Wall of Sound at the Omni with Maria Muldaur opening was my second show.

Not one show released from that venue to date.

You should have been there. Those years with Keith and Donna were pretty special.

There were even a few times in the 70’s that “the ‘Hound broke down and left ‘em all stranded in downtown Birmingham.” You should’ve been there too.

Byrd

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…RSD 2022 release is the follow up to ‘Jerry Garcia’ acoustic band’ -‘Almost acoustic’ Album release . Oh yeah ! way down!!

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I was in attendance, a Monday work night. Not much to remember except China>Rider to open up the second set. Still have my ticket stub.

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For 3CD received 9-21.
Not tracking yet 9-22.
Still no tracking 9-23.
Ditto 9-24 and 9-25.
Car 54 where are you?
Still no tracking 9-26 so this one will likely be here before it ever tracks.
Not the first time, but they didn't used to be this way. Supply chain... yeah, that's it.
9-27 finally tracking, due Fri. 9-30. Nine days from shipping notice.

Cheers

The RSD website has the November Black Friday listing with the 2nd night of Wembley Empire Pool in 1972 for the GD release and for JGB, it's the Pure Jerry release from Hampton 91 with Bruce Hornsby sitting in with the band.

edit: Would love them to rerelease or Real Gone the Pure Jerry series so I can fill in the shows I'm missing...

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Truly a great show. Off work and ready to check out this latest Normanized and Plangentized version from the boys. Nice surprise!

Rock on and Happy Friday!!

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I believe the RSD is the first night at wembley. I Have the 2nd night here.

Guess I'll be up early.

Hope I can score a past one,,, the ragged by right album.

Certain hope for the Pure Jerry.

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So, just out of curiosity, was Bob Weir even at this gig? I guess he musta been, cause he sings some of the songs. But maybe his guitar wasn't plugged in?

This is a good show, but the mix is disappointing. Phil and the drummers are much too low, and Weir's guitar is completely inaudible.

It's a great recording if you want to listen to Jerry and Brent. And that's pretty interesting, especially given how new Brent was at this point, and there's a nice chemistry between the two of them. And Garcia plays with a lot of energy. But for those of us who want to hear the whole band, and who feel that listening to the interplay between Garcia-Lesh-Weir is at the heart of the Dead's live music, well, this mix is less than ideal.

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Was able to stream show. The Stella Blue is one of the best I have heard.
What a great 80's show to add to the mix

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This conveyance, aka the Louis Dejoy enrichment scheme, puzzles me. UPS sent my 3CD from CA to GJ, CO which is 60 miles away from me, transferred it to the USPS who took it 200 miles away to Denver where it can now come back my way adding a couple of days. How does this make any sense it terms of efficiency or carbon footprint? If they would have put it on a UPS truck in GJ, CO I would have had it yesterday. Don't let it bring you down. It's only castles burning. -Neil Young
Cheers

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3/9/91 at Madison Square Garden delivers all that.

I think this is 3/9/81. Carry on

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Surprising dynamic sound. Crow is right, not much Bob.
But there is a '78 energy to that sound, if that's a thing.
Brent really did change the coloration and his skill is prodigious.
Kind of a '78 setlist too. Very impressed on first listen.
Cheers

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After a better second listen, I agree with the overall comments about the mix. Phil’s bass and Bob’s guitar are buried beneath Jerry and Brent. But, I hear Phil at least some of the time. Bob is faint, at best, although that might, in part, have to do with Brent’s sound choice on the keys. That said, I’ll listen to these discs again. There are some good moments, including Bird Song. I wish the sound was more balanced, which has been a challenge with DaP from the same era. I’d like to get sound that’s far better than my tape collection—not worse.

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I'm hearing it again on third listen.
This cassette master had speed issues.
And Plangent didn't completely fix it.
Jerry and Bob sound a bit like pre-teens whose voices haven't changed yet.
Especially noticeable on Ship of Fools, but consistent throughout.
I played it on both of my CD players and it's the same. It's not off by much, maybe 1%- 2% judging by the correction factor my cassette deck has on it's 5% total adjustability of the pitch control knob. (Some of my old tapes which were copied on a faulty speed deck need as much as the whole 5% range that the pitch control offers.) So that's what I'm judging it by.
Not that I really care as the show is great and I would want it anyway. And like I said on another post (DaP44) it is just barely noticeable and no one else has commented on this * so it could be I'm trippin'. No biggie, just sayin'.
Cheers
* Now Big Brownie has noticed it on a different show in the box too.

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Saw an email from Experience Vinyl listing this show as a vinyl release for Rocktober, coming out on 10/6. They have it listed as $124.98 for what appears to be a five album release. Nothing on dead.net or rhino.com. So if there's a Rocktober vinyl day, will that be 3 days of limited edition vinyl releases?

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I pre ordered mine from the In Groove in Arizona.

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Was wondering if the going rate is $125. Little cautious after seeing the DP1 re-release initially released @ $99, then others had it $199, then I thought I saw others had it at $149.

Funny no initial announcement from this site...

Thanks!

I ordered from experience for 125.

I don't think it's an "Official" release. Experience site say "label - grateful dead/wea"? Maybe it's a record store thing?

We'll see how fast it ships! How long did we wait for the Vault stuff :-)

Sidebar - should have gotten the Axe!!

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