

- 441 repliesmarye
Joined:Well, it's like this. Sunday morning, in the previous version of this thread, I was posting a response to an interesting post, and things went badly haywire and suddenly, the thread vanished. Whatever that was, I'll never do it again. But since the Dave's Picks threads tend to be the preferred hangout, I am so sorry to have deprived you of yours. Please pick up where you left off and accept my deepest apologies. --Marye
- Forensicdoceleven
Joined:By chance two separate glances meet.............Deep beneath the rolling waves in labyrinths of coral caves.........
Told the tale before, here we are again. Before we morphed into major Deadheads we were super into the Floyd. There were some things we didn't much care for----Piper, Atom Heart Mother---but we loved the live cuts on Ummagumma, Meddle, and DSOTM through Animals. Always thought Animals was very underrated, had some great playing by Gilmour. Not particularly into "political music", but we dug it.
Shows:
March 14 1973, Boston Music Hall. The Floyd weren't famous yet. Got to see Careful With That Axe, Echoes, DSOTM. One of the greatest, most intense musical experiences I ever had. Maybe the acid helped............
Careful With That Axe, Eugene-Obscured by Clouds-When You're In-Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun-Echoes-Speak to Me/Breathe/On the Run/Time/Breathe (Reprise)/The Great Gig in the Sky/Money/Us and Them/Any Colour You Like/Brain Damage/Eclipse-One of These Days
June 18 1975, Boston Garden. The Floyd were now massively famous. Lots of yahoos in attendance. Pricey tickets and hot as hell inside the old Garden. But we had a blast and the visuals were stupendous. Plus we got an Echoes!!! Maybe the acid helped.......
June 27 1977, Boston Garden. Another pricey steam bath in the old Garden. DSOTM was in the rear view mirrors but we got WYWH and Animals. Still great stuff. Maybe the acid helped...........
Strangely enough, starting with The Wall, totally lost interest. When what I called the "3/4 Floyd" came by the first time, I went mostly to pay my respects. Sadly, the spark, the energy, the intensity was gone...........
But yes, I still listen............
Doc
Sooner than wait for a break in the weather
I'll gather my far flung thoughts together
Speeding away on a wind to a new day
If your alone I'll come home - proudfoot
Joined:June 77 Winterland runI heard that a while back. I was amazed at their quality; I would classify them as legendary.
They were so good I haven't listened to them since because they need to be heard when conditions are just exactly perfect.
I remember the Brokedown Palace being...wow.
- daverock
Joined:Horses for coursesI'm the complete opposite with Pink Floyd. I really like the stuff from Pipers up to Meddle, but am not so keen on the following albums. I saw them twice, in 1975 and 1977. They weren't the most exciting band in the world to see live, though. Not at that time anyway. The first time, at Knebworth, they played three songs that hadn't been recorded yet, which ended up in a revised form on Wish You Were Here and Animals. Then they played all of DSOTM - note perfect, or as close as they could manage, it to the album. Then they played Echoes as an encore.
In 1977, they played both Wish You Were Here and Animals, again closely following the recorded versions, with Money as an encore. They didn't improvise at all. The albums after Meddle all seemed a bit down beat to me. Depressing, in a way. I felt, after 1969 and Ummagumma, that they were surpassed by bands that may have been influenced by them - principally Hawkwind and Gong - and then all the great German bands - Tangerine Dream, Can, Faust, Amon Duul 2 etc.
Strange to read of them as being thought of as belonging in the same category as The Dead. There wasn't much going on at live Floyd gigs at all. Not that I can remember anyway. I guess I liked bands more on the rock n' roll, or what became known as space rock, side of the spectrum. - estimated-eyes
Joined:stuffListened to 6/8/77 Winterland over a couple of days' commutes and yesterday morning the Brokedown Palace encore brought a tear to my eye. It is a truly beautiful version of a great song. I use 'I love you more than words can tell' with my wife and kids all the time and this time it just got to me.
Interesting to see that someone was broaching 11/17/72 then as that is what show was next in the rotation. Still one of my highest rated Dave's Picks.
Pink Floyd-- I don't like the pre-Meddle Floyd, but Meddle through Animals is a real sweet spot. I have the Oakland 1977 show on tape somewhere in the basement with the live Animals and Wish You Were Here-- that show should be cleaned up and released. I understand that it isn't perfect sonically, but it would be better than the nothing we have. Zeppelin released an imperfect show from an early tour when they put out remastered albums a few years back (part of LZ I). That Oakland show deserves the same.
- uncle_tripel
Joined:animals......and the idealistic youth
of the '70's
(or any decade for that matter)june 28 1977 LIVE
I remember well
in quadraphonic sound
cash registers / pigs / dogs / sheep / and of course
welcome to the machine
panning around the
SPECTRUMwhat fun
and good times
as a teen
with low
density commitments
and responsibilitiesremember when you were young
you shone like the sun
SHINE ON
you crazy diamond - JimInMD
Joined:Santa FeIt's a keeper. The Help/Slip/Franklins and Let it Grow is super high energy, fun and playful.
I like the Floyd vs. Dead comparison too. Both bands so different yet they somehow occupy the same place in my mind. Both bands did more to push the sound of live music than any of their peers. For that I am grateful.
ARGH!
Mary Eyes&Heart
Thanks Mary! You're our hero.
Cheers
Thanks Mary. And origin story...
Thanks, Mary!
1stshow- saw your comment in the other thread. I know that once feral, a cat often never loses that wanderlust. So I hope it all works out. Checkers really is magnificent to look upon. Our best-ever cat was a black-n-white cat. We got him from a shelter but he'd been brought there as a kitten and he was still only 5 months old, so he was soon a proper indoor housecat. He had a white spot on one side of his black nose, and a black spot on top of his paw on that same side, as if the black fur had dripped down before it was dry, and had landed there.
He used to sleep in the crook of my arm every night... even (or especially) on the coldest winter nights, he wouldn't let me fall asleep until I had pulled my left arm out from under the covers, whereupon he'd turn around 2-3 times before settling down against it. He was a big boy, so then he'd kick against me to push my arm out to make more room for himself. He's been gone now for over 11 years but I still think about him...
...and my username here was his name. <3
Miss you, Obeah the Cat! So go on home, Checkers, your humans miss you, too
Obeah
Always wondered about that name. Love his story. I too had one that would curl up at my chest at naptime and arrange me to fit.
Mr. Ones has a great pair of cats for his icon, one tuxedo, one orange. He's been seldom seen lately but I'm sure he's lurking.
We lost Otto, the "brother" we adopted with Checkers, very early on due to FIV so we don't want to lose another. Thanks for letting me get this out.
Good news! My buddy is loaning us his trail camera tomorrow. At least we'll be able to verify if he's still around.
Cheers
DaP 52 rocks! It's all about the energy, no matter what the era. I have been a fan of this show since I got a great tape of it around 1998. Nice to have an even better copy!
Thanks Marye
Now, back to business.
So, DaP 54 announcement……..
Happy Heavenly Birthday Paul Butterfield 12/17/42
One of my all-time favorite blues harmonica players, he was also an incredible singer.. I saw him play live one time.
Losing a pet sucks
Here's to all the pets that have moved on
Speaking of pets
or at least animals that are pets...
If you have the opportunity to see the animated movie "Flow"....see it. It's a perfect Christmas movie.
If there's one thing Deadheads know how to do ...
... it's carry on.
It's Spring '73!!
Baltimore 3/26, with Buffalo 3/31 bonus!!
more Baltimore
Very pleased, my first in person show after being on the bus from early... the Wolfman Jack show.
54 - Yeah
Just checked my stock on these two shows. Both of mine are top shelf sound, so I can't wait for the "official" release. No matter what they're always better than "public", sometimes not much, but with nice packaging :-).
Great setlist. Jerry sounds great on Morning Dew.
Yep 54 Announced
Glad I subscribed w/early bird pricing.
May skip the RGM restock of DiP 1 vinyl which just came back into stock.
Cheers
Baltimore..
Best bonus-disc ever.. ? One of the truly great shows - thank you, Dave.. Merry X-mas to all from Copenhagen..
Thanks 1st Show
Just scored a copy of DP1 vinyl.
#54
Alright! More spring 73. Love it.
Wait, didn't we hear Europe 81?
Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good
Very extremely super stoked about this pick. I'll take all the spring '73 I can get. A tremendous show and super cool bonus disc. Yippee!
Awesomeness
Filling out that Spring '73 mini-box sequence nicely!
DiP 1 Vinyl At RGM
To quote Brent,
"Oh what the hell."
Ordered it.
I'll just do the Dennis and tell the wife these are collectables that will appreciate in value. Yeah, that's it.
Cheers
Dave says the filler on 54 is 3-31-73 Buffalo which is, in his words, the "penultimate" show of that tour. Penultimate should be one of those drinking games words like "veneer" for Antiques Roadshow.
YEAAA, I thought we were…
YEAAA, I thought we were getting a cool Europe 1981 show for #54 along w/bonus disc! I guess the same noise that told us the 2024 Box Set was Alaska/Hawaii 1980, and that DaP #51 was 9/26/91 called Europe 1981 for #54....sux
I mean the 2023 box Here comes Sunshine has 5-shows from a month or so later, again seems that the 1971-1978 era has been covered exhaustingly....I like 1973-74 for Jerry's playing, but there so many good songs that came after 1973 startiing with From the Mars Hotel - not really disappointed, cause knew there was 0% chance this release would be 1981
aaalllrighty then
3/26/73
if I have heard this one, I have forgotten
I have heard 3/31/73 and I know it's hot
Hooray for Dave and pals!!!
3/26/73
I don't know if I've heard it either. I've heard so many from this timespan it's hard to know for sure. If somebody had asked me yesterday if it had already come out, I wouldn't have been able to answer with any confidence.
DP1 vinyl
Not sold out yet.
Maybe people don’t realize it’s available again.
Being a 73 whore…
I’ll take er!
Now the picky DH might start on about other 73s, blah, blah, blah,
but as far as that tour goes these are arguably the best of the rest. Maybe what, 3/16 or 22? (Didn’t look up?) but I’ve heard em all and felt Baltimore was definitely worthy and that second set from Bu faf has to be heard! JAMS…that’s it in a word!
Good Sheet Mon, Top Shelf Where Mama Hides the Cookies! (aka RJ)
I can understand if 73 ain’t your cup of meat, as it does get a lot of love.
But it’s been since 38? I think was the last 73 Dave’s, though, yes it has been out otherwise.
I get the varying POVs about “the picks” and most are valid, but I think he’s trying…I mean DH can be a surly bunch and we all love what we love and just can’t get enough…personally, as long as they sound good I’m usually happier than a pig in slop, just sometimes ya wanna roll around longer ; )
What SWB said
Spring ‘73 Mini-Box.
3-24 DaP32
3-26 DaP54
3-28 DaP16
3-31% 54bonus
4-2 DaP21
OroThing2,
So you’re saying that Dave actually got the neighborhood, street, and house correct?
Currently listening to 6-10-73 Set3 vinyl.
Spring '73, yippee!
I'm pleased with this pick. My intro to the Dave's series was Vol 21 - 4/2/73 Boston. At some point I went and picked up a copy of Vol 16 - 3/28/73 Springfield to backfill my collection, but I realized recently that I never really gave it more than a cursory first listen, so that show has been my commute music for much of this month. I think Phil's playing on that show's Dark Star may have put potholes into the road beneath my car. SO GOOD.
I've never heard a lick of either the Baltimore or Buffalo '73 shows, though, so this is exciting news! I know '73 shows are typically lengthy but WOW 3/26 looks like a marathon.
This will mean that the first 3 of 6 Baltimore shows will be officially released. The final such show is the "Raven Space" show. Does anyone know why they never went back to Baltimore after that April '82 show? I have to assume the cops and city hall probably decided to give them the heave-ho...
Corrupted original thread....
....I'm blaming the drones.
The Dead not returning to Baltimore after the Raven Space show? JiminMD was there, so I'm blaming him.
Right street rights house(s)!!
All in for more March '73 especially in the #2 DaP slot for the year so it gets a bonus disc. Super psyched for this one. I know that when I listened to Baltimore earlier this year I was totally in the "must release this!!" camp. Oro - wondered for a long while what "RJ" stood for - I knew it was high praise - but where did it come from? Finally was able to put 2 + 2 together - a "Rick Jeanneret".
For you dead serious primal heads - saw on SH Grateful Thread / Jesse Jarnow's bsky) that tapes from 2 previously uncirculated shows are up at LL: 11/18/66 Fillmore and 8/5/67 O'Keefe Center. Seem to be the real deal. The O'Keefe show a That's It For The Other One that will be the earliest version in circulation from what I read. jerrybase has uploaded both shows to utoob already.
Baltimore, Nevermore
Yes, JMD was there…..
And his relationship to why the band never came back was never supposed to be discussed again…..
Last 5
Playing some old vinyl.
‘Ovary Lodge’ - Ovary Lodge
An album on the Ogun label by a group including Keith Tippet and Julie Tippets. My wife, who was upstairs at the time, did wonder why she could hear a woman screaming downstairs.
‘Greasy Truckers Live at Dingwalls Dance Hall’ - Various Artists
Only played Side 4 featuring Gong. Despite the album title neither track was from Dingwalls.
‘Sounds of Sudan Volume 1: Songs from Kordofan’ - Abdul Gadir Salim
This album shows I was buying vinyl later than I thought since it was released in 1987.
‘Rhizosphere’. - Richard Pinhas
‘Heldon IV’ - Heldon
If you haven’t heard Heldon or Richard Pinhas who is in the group then I wholeheartedly recommend them.
Next I’ll get back to the CDs that are piling up waiting to be played.
DaP 52
Already mentioned maybe but I'm late to the party. Just finished the 1st set yesterday. Is this a cassette SB? Were they using digital cassette by then? Sound was not what I expected. Even after they clear up the issues a couple songs in it seemed a bit muddy. Frankly my 1998 tape sounds better. I know, caveat emptor and all that and I'm glad to have it but just curious.
Cheers
Edit: Liner notes say it was cassette. And DAT wasn't invented until 1987 I discovered.
It was a dark and stormy night
I was just testing my new 8' drone in the shape of a steelie. Candace Brightman helped with the LED lighting system, I can see why people thought it was a UFO.
Note: This drone has never been in NJ. I have my hands full weaving it in between NASA Godard Space Flight Center, the NSA, Fort Meade and DC.
These flights were all peaceful flyovers with US Blues coming out of the tiny drone speakers.
Baltimore 73 on the other hand is a worth pick. I think it was Wissoming that called for it a couple weeks ago. I wanted a mini box of Philly and Baltimore 73, but dammit, Dave never listens to me.
Edit: I have sad news to report. I replaced US Blues with Keep Your Day Job on the Steelie Drone playlist today. Eleven minutes after takeoff, my beloved Steelie drone was shot down. My flag is flying at half mast, I am not sure I can repair it.
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Subedit: If you are not familiar with the Baltimore / Edgar Allan Poe / The Raven / Baltimore Civic Center reference, the above drone story will seem a bit about of place. On a related note, if you ever decide to trip in a graveyard, bring a copy of The Raven and give it a read preferably by candlelight, or just listen to the Space from 4/19/82 and it will become crystal clear. Either way don't expect to get a good restful nights sleep. Baltimore 1973 you say, I say hell yes.. what took you so long, Dave.
that's all I got, as you were
Grumpy Grumpkins/Jerry Seinfeld lovechild sez
why is cash becoming more and more useless as time goes on?
Every time you turn around to pay for something "no cash accepted"
Classist bullsh!+
The world gets lamer every day, I tell ya
Thank goodness for the GD
and I really mean that
It truly keeps me on this Earth
GBtGD
Ovary lodge?
What's next? Testicle Hut?
Ovary Lodge
The album I was listening to was released in 1976 so there’s been plenty of time for Testicle Hut to get their shit together. Like fetch, it’s never going to happen.
love the fetch reference
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Grumpy Grumkins
Hey, I hate that no cash crap and don't understand it. Costs them more to process credit cards than the cost of cash, which is zero.
Out on the road today I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac. Was at the liquor store last night and picked up a gnarly head grateful Dead limited edition cab. The cashier looked at the bottle and said cool! I need to get one of these because I am a Deadhead. I said you are, so am I. I then had a sudden desire to chat him up about the new release announcement, but I thought no, I better move along. We are everywhere!
it says right on the bills
"all debts public and private"
grumblybumbly...
DP1 vinyl still not sold out
Copies of the 2012 vinyl release from Brookvale Records are high priced.
This Real Gone issue isn’t the same, read the description:
“ remastered for vinyl by Jeffrey Norman from the original analog tapes for the first time ever (the previous LP release was taken from digital files).”
“ Our release actually includes some material (featuring the long-lost Phil Lesh bass solo) that was left off previous iterations of this show, and, with lacquer cutting by Clint Holley and Dave Polster at Well Made Music and pressing on 180-gram black vinyl by Gotta Groove Records, the sound on this 4-LP boxed set—which, again, comes straight from the original analog tapes for the first time—is simply sublime. ”
This Real Gone issue came out in 2023, then sold out.
So, they must have “found some” in the back of the warehouse.
No cash accepted
Slot machines don’t spit out coins anymore.
And Bitcoin, when I first heard of it the price was under $10. I considered buying 100 of them but didn’t……
Kicking myself now. But back then it was just used on the dark web and I wasn’t sure how to get it from a legitimate source.
Proudfoot & Cash
I think the real reason about places not taking cash is simply they don't trust their employees with the Green.
And can you believe banks will charge you for depositing cash into a business account? Credit cards just happen without an owner having to go to the bank everyday. When I had my gas station we had a river of cash that flowed everyday. But I'm sure most use plastic today. When I was a kid in the gas business, you would only see maybe 2 credit cards a night!
Dennis
Yes, employee theft could definitely be part of the equation. But, no banks do not charge businesses or people that deposit cash. They do charge businesses on every transaction used with a credit card and swipe fee. Can be up to 4,% of the transaction.
Cash deposits
No, it's real. $0.15 per every $100 deposited after the $7500/month limit. Cash handling fee. Jeez! You're a bank! Handling cash is what you do. Find a better bank is the answer to that. Everybody makes you pay for every minute of their time nowadays.
Cheers
The liquor store I frequent just initiated a card fee of 3.5% so now I pay cash.
I remember credit cards being a new thing when I was in Jr. High. How's that for making you feel old, lol.
And bar codes and scanners at the grocery store didn't show up in my small town until 1979-80.
Banks
Better switch banks Firstshow. My bank, a very large one, does not have a cash handling fee.
Not Mine
That was a google search as I didn't believe it either. Not sure what bank, but it was referring to commercial accounts. I certainly never have any cash to deposit, lol. The money goes out but not in to my accounts.
Cheers
Banks
The bank I went to wanted to charge for EVERY deposit and EVERY check. It was tidy sum. Since I worked at ATT for years I was a member of the credit union (once a member, always a member, still am!), but they had "business" accounts and everything was free! So we ended up there.
On employees and cash, even if not stolen, people are terrible money handlers. How often you get wrong change (both ways) from cashiers? We won't even talk about handing them an odd collection of money so you get even money back. Like the bill is 16.57, so you give them 21.57 and they hand you back the 1.57 because the 20 will cover the bill!
Do I sound old or what? :-) These kids today......
The era of the dumb!
The TOOs employer had to hold meetings for managers to learn how to balance the drawer and do a deposit…
The drawer is only $25, so you count out 25, put that back in drawer, then deposit the rest…for this they needed training…
Yeah, tell me again how I’m a stupid boomer!
cnkid
Any shipping notice yet on DiP 1?
Only 3 days now so not worried.
Cheers
Edit: Got the shipping notice just now. Woohoo!
60th Anniversary Box
Billboard magazine ran a story about the Dead's giving back with benefits and the Rex Foundation in the wake of the band being honored recently my MusicCares. In the article, there is also mention of a proper box for their 60th Anniversary:
"Rhino Entertainment — which celebrated the band’s 50th anniversary in 2015 with an 80-disc 30 Trips Around the Sun box set that collected 30 unreleased Dead shows, one from each year it was active — has a surprise in store for GD60. “We’ve been working on something that we feel is special and commensurate with an anniversary as big as this,” says David Lemieux, the Grateful Dead’s legacy manager and archivist. “Mark [Pinkus, Rhino president] and I got on the call about a year ago [to begin working on it], and when we started talking about it, we both couldn’t contain our joy.”
Speculate amongst yourselves...
60th anniversary box set
1968, 1969 & 1970 shows all out of the banana boxes.