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Joined:Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
- Oroborous
Joined:Berry interesting!I didn’t know about it being a King B, thought it was local FM etc?
So again, oh boy, come Dave WTF!
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Yeah captcha needs to get fired!
I’ve “failed” several times lately when I was correct and it was not!
Like minivans being considered busses, cars that are in frames but captcha misses, etc
“Captcha, yer fired” in best dumpster fire voice..lol - bluecrow
Joined:Yes - MulitisAs memory served, I've thought for a few years that I'd read reference to multitracks for 7/18. So just now did a little search and came across post on deadthinking blog from 1/24/16 on the July '76 Orpheum run. first comment is from a reliable contributor, Light In Ashes, that Dave L. himself has said that they have multitracks for the show. As you know the show was broadcast nationally on King Biscuit flower Hour and I think King Biscuit shows were recorded in multitrack as a matter of course?
Gonna have to dust off my copy of DaP 18 plus bonus disc from previous 2 nights and which contain some of my favorite released music from that era. Super way way out there and cool.
recapcha was a real pain in the a** this morning - very drawn out, and at times super lousy pictures - missed once and I'm like what am I not seeing. - Oroborous
Joined:Multi?Is there multis…ooohhhh, “that would be something, really would be something…”
Yeah, as I mentioned, I got the scalpel out this time and there is some hum at times (in left channel) and I think JGs guitar distorts at times, unless I’m thinking of a previous night?
The track changes are sometimes kinda abrupt too, maybe to edit out pesky radio announcers/station ids etc?
Oh, and the sound stage is flipped compared to every other previous show from the year?
I only went with “my” version, but you had me at multis lol
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Come on Dave, why oh why are you hoarding ANY good multitracks at this stage of the game, and don’t just dump it on PD, those deserve more, WE deserve more! Lol
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And, if your gonna make us do recaptcha, PLEASE maybe make the images big enough so blind old people can see it, especially on a tiny device, THanks - bluecrow
Joined:Neophyte High to a GrasshopperI like that! 7/18/76 it shall be! Had a fine tape of Set II bitd but its been ages. Gonna spin the Charlie Miller remaster of the KSAN pre-FM.
Edit - wow that Scarlet!!
Edit - did a cursory A/B with Ashley Bertha remaster and think I like that a touch better. Interestingly sound stage is mirrored for the two? Ultimately a buzz/hum/pre-FM or no are moot points when we get an official release from the multitracks, right??!! - Oroborous
Joined:7/18/1976Been a favorite since I was a neophyte high to a grasshopper!
One of my earliest tapes and this show just keeps getting better!
I thought back in 77 or whenever I got the tape, that this was how they were supposed to sound all the time!
Has the precision and well rehearsed, well played, majesty of the years previous shows, but after slowly working some jams back in, have cumulated in a veritable monster of quick, tight, precise segways and a desert island second set sequence not easily topped!
You get some nice freshy, not overly played numbers at the time like 1/2 Step, Minglewood, Loser, a sweet Candyman as well as excellent versions of the standard fare from June July 76. I let you discover for yourself…
Now I don’t recall a dud in the bunch from Boston all the way through the Orpheum, and the consistency is rock solid, but as could occasionally be the case with the dead, sometimes the first sets though very good, were maybe just a tad less enthusiastic for lack of better word. Some I like to call creepers. They start out ok, but slowly build up to a set closing peak, followed by an excellent, more exuberant second set.
Not the case here. This beast has a top notch first set and a second set to die for.
A prime example of the tight precision, and a always favorite moment, is when they slam back into LIG after one of those neat brief mini drum interludes with such force and precision it’s startling (at volume at least lol) even being familiar for decades. Oh, love JG calling the audible for St Stephen though you can hear Phil is totally heading for Stella Blue…so many moments, so much going on as their in one of those awesome super tight phases when they really listen to each other, tossing subtle cues around, to see what sticks etc…Only thing my greedy ass could add is imagine if there were one of the superb 76 Crazy Fingers and the H/S/F sequence somewhere lol hey, told ya I was greedy!
But enough of my pontificating, get right and become one with one of perhaps the best GD shows of all time!
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Oh, about sources.
I’ve had a good copy from something my cousin picked up on that South American river several years ago called GD SF 1976 The Orpheum Theatre Broadcast on 3 CDs.
Now I’ve stated that this copy is good enough that selfishly/greedily, I’d rather not have it officially released to save the pick for something else. But after giving it more of the scalpel this go round, and knowing there’s Betty’s of at least the last three shows (we know DaP 18 is fo sho) and knowing how ridiculously good many of the gussied up, released Betty’s are…well, I bet I could learn to live with it ; )
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Ok, hoping some will give this one a deep spin or two or three and report back…in the spirit of POTD with DISCUSSION!
Onward!
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In the spirit of “SeventySixtus”, think of it as your patriotic duty ; ) - Forensicdoceleven
Joined:Not knowing anything is the sweetest life......Good morning rockers!!
Pick of the day? Go no further than Kirkwood, Missouri on May 14 1970. Why? Well.......you know.........May 1970.................
Been avoiding the 58 thread. Why? Well............you know....................
I was born not knowing and have had only a little time to change that here and there.......
Rock on,
Doc
Being at ease with not knowing is crucial for answers to come to you..... - Shimanto
Joined:I agree on picking something…I agree on picking something and listening together. I have a big collection of Lossless recordings a good many of which are HD. I have Apple Music, a Dave’s Picks subscription and all. Why would I need a subscription to Play Dead? I got one just to check it out. Good God! Even though I am familiar with HD, I have a good DAC, amp, speakers etc. so I know the benefits of HD. Play Dead has blown me away and I haven’t even put it through the DAC yet. I have just been listening via USB in the car and with wired Apple earbuds. I don’t know if it is only in my head or what. It all sounds so great, I can’t believe it. Today 4/24/78 and Workingman’s 50th. It is like the heavens opened up and gave me a new form of music. Is this happening to anyone else or am I having some kind of freak out? It is so amazing. Every note is so clear. Phil’s bass is so detailed. I need a reality check to be sure I am not losing it.

Front Row,
Phil Side, direct view of JG.
Phil came out with a beer before the show and tried to tweak his rig, which to a budding musician/geek was CAF, but the civilian JP types made such a fuss, it drove him off, with him going “Aawawawarrrgggghhhhh” or some such mock reply/yelling/teasing at them on his way out lol. Yeah, if you like 1980, and have never heard the whole show, you’ll dig it!
We need a Crotchfester box! So many great shows there!
Front Row
Dude, front row! That is sweet.
Must have been a blast.
Do I like 80, oh yes! Who doesn't??
Best we ever did was second row at the old Met Center in April of 89.
RIP "Uke"
Bob Uecker - "I must be in the front row!"
Cheers
Had a few opportunities at Red Rocks to get in the front but we knew from experience the sound was better farther back and the view is always unobstructed there anyway with the steep rise. Usually chose around 7th row.
11-30-80
Playing in the car yesterday and today.
Good stuff. I’ll take more ‘80.
Where’s that Baked Alaska Box, Dave?
You are the music while the music lasts......
Hey rockers!!!
Pick of the Day: Fillmore West, February 8 1970
If you're not familiar with this---or even if you are---check out the big soundboard chunk from the end of the show. Classic gooey Good Old Grateful Dead. Hopefully the complete reels are in those banana boxes!!
Thanks to all for the kind words!!!
Who hears music feels his solitude peopled at once...........
Rock on,
Doc
Music when healthy, is the teacher of perfect order, and when depraved, the teacher of perfect disorder......
3/25/1990
For all you spring 1990 lovers, 3/25/90 from the Knickerbocker Arena iseems like a good one to get rolling next.
Who is in?
9-2-80
My favorite show out of 300+ attended. Very powerful. Many highlights not the least of which was as epic Morning Dew.
Aww Man
Catching up here, I last checked in just before Doc's reveal. I'm so sorry to hear this, Doc and I'm sorry for being so late to wish you well.
I'm just getting back from my family's celebration of life for my father, we were finally able to get everyone together to spread his ashes and send him off. We finished the night at getting a big private room at a brewpub, had some food, drink and told stories of his life, many of them I had never heard before. I'm with you in spirit and grieving doc, be well and carry the best of her with you wherever you go.
Man, it's been a tough week.. but move forward we must. We are nothing without what we have absorbed from those we love.
A raise of the glass to your Dad, JiminMD
a very tough goodbye
My condolences,
To you both.
And as my mother would say "be gentle with yourselves."
Such a long, long time to be gone, and a short time to be there. - Hunter
“The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.”
Jim
Jim,
Sending you good vibes from the frozen tundra!
So hard to lose a loved one.
Thanks all
...and dvikes, thanks for sending your Tundra our way. It's too cold to think about going outside.
Picks
Just finishing up the 30 Trips show from 1972, from Waterbury CT. This show is so good. Love that Dark Star into China Rider.
Thinking of 5/12/74 today. Only listened to this once when it came out. Time for another spin.
9/18/87
Looking at 9/18/87 from MSG and the 30 Trips box.
I did listen to 5/12/74 again last week. Yes, the sound quality on this one is not great, which is a bummer.
We need some good dead news out there. It has been too quiet.
DEADVIKES
Great recomendations on those shows!
I've been away from here for a bit but you have mention some great ones. The Waterbury show from 30 trips is killer indeed!
I'll bust out 9/18/87, it's been awhile
Also
I see you mention 3/25/90 from Kickerbocker. I just finished that run not long ago, after doing Omni 1990 run.
So much great music on Spring 1990
Rock on, gang!
Road Tripping
Did little travelling this last week, which was nice. Hit the latest Dave's and a whole bunch of Jerry Band in the car.
9/18/87 was always one of my favorite 80's shows.
So many roads…
…to ease my soul!
Spring 90
Yes Jonathan, love that Spring Tour and both boxes.
We were so happy to see them back in 87 after Jerry's coma and then In the Dark hit and it skyrocketed from there.
The MSG show is fun Jim. Definitely makes me want to polk around in the post comma era a little more.
Who has a pick out there?
12/16/92
This pick is some fine Vinnie era GD. The Shakedown to open set 2 is a monster! Phil dropping some serious bombs on the intro. I believe this show was ranked best of 1992. Also includes some nice philler from 12/17/92
Rock on, gang
12/16/92
Sounds good Jonathan. I will check this out.
Thanks!
12/16/92
I like that one a lot its just a fun show, great energy :)
It shows things can be pretty good with Vince
Agree
Nice show!
I’d dial it up if I wasn’t preoccupied otherwise…
A desert is a place without expectation……
Hey, rockers!!!
Pick of the day: Star Theater March 8 1970
What to do with uninvited, unexpected guests? It can get problematic, whether it’s your house or your concert…………..
Interesting little show and a nice example of the early 1970 electric/acoustic/electric format. Bob Weir’s attempted humor. Interesting China/Rider/High Time trifecta. Bouncy Dire Wolf. Greasy Hard To Handle. Hunky dory so far…………..
As with many early 1970 acoustic sets, this one has a casual, warm feeling. Tasty Monkey & The Engineer, Been All Around This World, Me & My Uncle and Black Peter. Things start to go a little sideways at the end of Katie Mae, as a local high school student---part rock and roll cheerleader, part blues screamer---joins in the festivities as they evolve/devolve into a spontaneous and quirky blues jam. Sounds odd now but sounds like at the time the audience was digging it………
Cap it all off with a hot NFA/Lovelight with more screaming and an unknown harmonica player sittin’ in…………
The available recordings, while a bit rough, are actually pretty listenable. However, given how sonically spoiled we’ve become, I’m not sure it can be brought up to official release standards. Not even sure it should be an official release, admittedly it would be way down on my wish list.
By no means a classic, but I’m glad I have it………………
Doc
This is the sense of the desert hills, that there is room enough and time enough……
Duke-4/12/78
Got this rolling again this morning. Bummer the first few songs are missing Jerry. But it picks back up at Peggy O and what a great Peggy O it is.
Sound quality on this one is stellar.
Kind of surprised this box hasn't sold out yet.
Doc & 1970-3-8 Star Theater
My copy sound just fine. I wish I got tapes of this quality back in the day.
Listened to the Katie Mae -> Blues -> NFA. My copy calls the blues "Inpromptu Blues".
I will come back to this.
Since it's Been 5 Days
... I'll throw it out there: 9.9.72 - Hollywood Palladium
I know this one got mixed reviews when it first came out (don't they all to some degree, heh heh). And admittedly I listened to it just twice before shelving it for a while ...
My recollection is that it gets better and better as the evening wears on. So I'm gonna dig in and see if that's still the take.
Oh yeah, and I would not mind at all if we could get the Dark Star w/ Crosby from the next night released.
Dave's #46
Sounds good to me Strat
Will que it up after I finish 6/8/77. Just think if Mickey didn't get injured after these June shows. I think the June Winterland run is the best run of the year at Winterland.
Not sure if the 6/4/77 at the Forum will ever be released.
Dave's 46 - 09.09.72 - Discussion
Well, it's interesting ... This is apparently a Bear recording - and in a "not true to form" way that was noticeable on disc 1, the vocals are quite 'hot' while the broader feel of the sound/spacing in the room is more or less missing; it sounds cramped (for lack of a better musical term) ... Perhaps it was the small stage or something - as a few errors along the way are right in your face.
Warts and All, as they say !
My sense was that they moved the mics or changed something in the set-up after Deal, because Playing & Loser are really good / sound 'right' to my ears. Playing has some fluidity that presages fall and early '73 versions. Funny: They close Loser, and Bob picks ... JB Goode - You can clearly hear Jerry say WTF!! He wants to play at least another song ... Then he promptly rips it up.
Set 2 starts solidly, and the Friend of the Devil here is stellar. All of disc 3 is excellent - a caveat though for those who are feedback averse, as the middle of TOO has a major 'melt' section. The sequence coming out of that is entrancing. Lastly, the Stella Blue is faster than later versions ... I like it. Also, Jerry sings the "Can't keep from crying" line in the bridge instead of "Gonna make 'em shine". (Edit: I skipped El Paso in favor of the) Rock and Roll to close it out from there.
DVikes
* 6/7, 6/8 (as mentioned before) and 6/9/77 are Way up there for me ... 6.9's Half Step, Deal, Music, the Epic HSF and Estimated > Stephen - All Great 👍
9/9/72 DaP 46
Had already decided to head this way after the bonus disc and then saw it was POTDWD. Haven't done the full dive cause still on work duty but that ends later today a few days early (project will be finished.) I spun this a fair bit back at release time - but didn't find it an " RJ" (to quote Oro). Haven't listened to it yet on the new Senns with the Ifi DAC so that'll be a good revisit. Listening to Set I and I'm reminded that the screamer that's sort of close to the stage Set I was slightly annoying lol. The reocrding seems a little "flat" and Jerry's guitar tone (so far) doesn't seem like its miked just right? But despite those quibbles, it is, after all, September freaking '72. Will continue with this later this Spring weekend. Have fun out there friends.
Dave's #46
Huge 72 fan, so I was excited when this one was announced.
Agree with Strat and BC regarding the recording, it is not bad but yes, something is a little off. Still an enjoyable show. Second set picks it up.
Haven't listened to 9/10/72, but I always heard this show was the better of the two.
Thanks for the pick Strat. Oh and this one has not sold out yet. Going back to 2023.
Put on RT1.4 from October 78 at Winterland.
I love this release. Recording and energy are A+. Got my MoJo Working. If that doesn't make you want to get up and move I don't what will. And we Get If I had The World to Give.
Dap 46 + Bonus
How is this not sold out?
It's 1972 for Pete's.
Will admit I've heard the bonus disc twice and the 9/9 only once.
Will have to remedy that.
Synchronicity with the RT 1.4 pick. Had the bonus disc on when I read that. I saw the 1st World To Give at Red Rocks. Always thought it would stay in the rotation, but not to be. Difficult vocal range like the Star Spangled Banner, lol.
Cheers and happy Spring
Firstshow
That is great Firstshow!
Pretty sweet you saw the first one live in August at Redrocks. What a great summer for you in 78.
Do you remember how much you spent on tickets for these fantastic shows?
Love this release but also have mixed feelings about it as because they releasesd it, I don't think they will ever release the full Winterland October 78 run. My two cents, release the whole run, so good and so different from the Spring and yes, it incorporates the Shakedown Street songs so I am a bit biased.
9/9/72
I'll spin this show today. Last I did, I thought it was top notch!!
I was just praising 8/25/72 on the what are you listening to page.
The jams from 1972 are absolutely epic!!
Rock on, gang
DV
August '78 ticket ticket says $8.25 + $0.75 some sort of fee. And as I recall I was earning the princely sum of $5.00/hour + tips as a pizza delivery manager/driver at the time while still pretending to be taking classes at C.S.U. and thinking, "Why do I need college? I have a good job (free dinner!), a bag of fine Columbian, a good stereo, some decent skis, and a VW bug to get me there. All a guy needs, right?". Ah, those were the days.
Cheers
Firstshow
Wow, $9. That is great..
And making $5 an hour plus tips back in 78, that was good money. I don't think I hit $5 an hour until my college days in the early 90s.
How much does it cost to see Dead and Co now? Quite a bit.
Dave's 46
Going back for that today.
Love the Boulder, CO cuts on the bonus disc.
I think my older sister went to that one.
Yeah DV, I was rolling in it then, lol. Made sure I had no classes Tuesday & Thursdays that spring semester and skied every week, worked at night, partied daily. By fall I had quit school, changed to a daytime job for $5.25/hr. and ended up hating it and my roommates were getting stale so I picked up and moved to the mountains where wages were more like $4.25 but got back in school at Western State (bumper sticker was "Ski Western State and get a degree in your spare time"), night job in a restaurant, cheap rent in a mansion, and made new friends who got me into the backcountry ski scene. Never looked back on the city. Had ups & downs on wages but didn't break out of that range until the '90s either. So stay in school kids, or train for a trade!
Looking back, I would have to say getting on the bus in '78 changed my perspective for the better back then.
Cheers
DaP 46 - 9/9/72
Been spinning parts of this over (and over) the last few days midst other activities and varying moods. Not a just exactly perfect recording by Bear (we're spoiled nowadays cause in the old days we would have killed for this) but yeah its a real solid '72 show which right there is all you really need to know if you love licorice. Of course would really like to have an official release visit the house next door (9/10) but it has the David Crosby guest appearance which complicates things (though surely that can be worked out, right PTB?) Every once in awhile I'll be listening to a release and some unusual passage will stand out and I can picture Dave dialed in and blown away and thinking "we got to release this!!" Whether that's really the case I don't know of course but for me here its that theme that Garcia introduces at the 24 minute mark of the Other One. Very cool! Does anybody recognize it, is he quoting some song, or is it just pure Jerry? And yeah Disc 3 has a He's Gone > Trucking > Other One and that Other One is almost 35 minutes long with 2!! Phil thunder "intros" and the whole sequence is typically raucous and excellent for that great era. Good to come back to this one and give it some time on the Senns.
And taking a step back I love 8/25/72 - DaP24 - wherein our hero Bobby Weir has eaten roses for lunch. At the time of release some folks were expecting the night before - a known classic - I seem to remember that Bolo dropped a clue right before the release of this one that it was a Dewzy but he got unintentionally head faked by DL who had relayed that it was 2 before Veneta which Bolo interpreted as 2 shows before but DL meant 2 calendar days before. I'm hoping we'll see a whole lot more from that BCT run (like all of it!) - "mini" box that up along with the August 1971 shows too!!
1973
Super excited for #54 and another fine 73 show added to the collection. Since 73 is on my brain, might as well que up 5/26/73. Another upper echelon show from 73.
Love Kezar
... I will spin that this weekend 👍
Kezar
Never gets old.
And the HCS Box is number 1 at my house.
The new box looks sweet.
Kezar is the pick of (yester) Today?
Day late and a dollar short, but I will get to it when I road trip this weekend.
Music is well said to be the speech of angels..........
Morning, rockers!
Let's all celebrate National Fillmore East April 28 1971 Day!!!
Without a doubt my all time favorite Grateful Dead recording! El Paso, Cumberland for Jim, The Rub, killer Dew to open Set 2, great Other One, best ever Hard To Handle, short sweet Star. So cue it up, hunker down in a comfy chair, imbibe your preferred libation, turn it WAY up, and listen to just how amazing the Good Old Grateful Dead could still play in 1971.......
You'll thank me for it. I think........
Music is nothing else but wild sounds civilized into time and tune.....
Rock on!!
Doc
Music comes from an icicle as it melts, to live again as spring water......
Filmore East 71
Thanks Doc,
Will get this great show going today.
Best ever H2H?
hmmm... tough to choose between 4/28 and 4/29 there at FE... would debate 8/6, Jerry's jamming peaks.
Music is love in search of a word.....
Hello rockers, flockers, and shockers............
Sorry, all due respect but 4/28 as a show and the 4/28 H2H crushes 4/29. Do I dare even opine that 4/29 is actually a bit overrated?
Music is the silence between the notes.....
Rock on!
Doc
Music is the medicine of the mind.....
4/28
Agreed on 4/28 over 4/29, the GOAT debate is with 8/6... which on most days for me, is the pure Jerry jam
FE
Yes, indeed, Doc! Happy National Fillmore East 4/28/71 Day. I remember listening to abridged cassettes of the two shows in the car near the confluence of the Ms. & Mo. rivers on a choice early Summer day. Ain't that somethin'?
I'm All In
I was away from dawn to too tired to start a show yesterday, but I'm rocking today.
Thanks Doc, thanks all.
Pick of the Day, with Discussion - Grateful Dead
Absolutely love this idea, Bolo24, count me in! A communal listening thread sounds like the perfect way to stay connected and keep the vibes alive while we’ve all got a little extra time on our hands. Dick’s Picks 18 is a stellar first choice too, those February ‘78 shows have some real electricity. The Scarlet > Fire and Eyes from 2/3 are peak ‘78 Dead for me. There’s something about that era, raw, soulful, and unpredictable in the best way.
I’m also really intrigued by the thought of rotating picks, almost like a “Deadhead DJ of the day” concept. Could make for some fun variety and deeper dives into underappreciated shows or eras. I know a lot of us have our go-to favorites, but this could be a great opportunity to explore hidden gems or even some of the newer releases like the Dave’s Picks series that might not have had as much time to soak in yet.
And while we’re on the subject of community and gear, for those looking to rep their Deadhead spirit in everyday life, I recently came across some really creative fan-made merch at merch.subie-eyes It’s got a nice blend of classic Dead imagery and subtle, thoughtful designs, not your typical mass-produced stuff. Worth a look if you're into low-key ways to show your love for the band.
Looking forward to seeing what everyone thinks of the first pick, and the stories, insights, and maybe even a few cosmic revelations that follow. Let the Deadnet Picks roll!