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    started by Lopezz Posted: November 19, 2008 - 4:40pm The PERRO Tapes PERRO is Planet Earth Rock & Roll Orchestra: David Crosby, Graham Nash, Jerry Garcia, Phil Lesh, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Grace Slick, Paul Kantner, Jorma Kaukonen, Jack Casady, David Freiberg and others... These are some tapes of everyone above in rehersal, working through songs, and just freely jamming together. Most of the songs arent finished and some barely get started and they are over. But these are still unbelievable, everyone should hear these! The other discs are just some jam sessions I have with the same crew. The last one is Crosby,Garcia,Lesh, and Hart aka David and the Dorks. This will be 6 audio disc and a data dvd with shn/flac files. The PERRO Tapes Disc 1 1. Is it really Monday 2. Under Anesthesia (false start) 3. Under Anesthesia 4. Crosby - I thought I would try something original... 5. Garcia's Tune (Loser)#1 6. Garcia's Tune (Loser)#2 7. Over Jordan (Wayfaring Stranger) 8. Mountian Song

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    I dont think anyone knows if the dates are right. I have some similar tapes of Garcia trying out new songs that eventually became Workingmans Dead. If I ever figure out where or when they were recorded I will post them.
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    The Grateful Dead took a break between Minneapolis (18th) and D.C. (23rd) so I guess it is possible? Jerry was a busy dude that's for sure.. "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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    last night I was listening to the "10-21-70" disc from this vine and thinking (dangerous thing to do after getting back from the bar, I know). First of all, the date is almost surely incorrect, since the Dead were on tour on the EAST COAST for pretty much all of October and November of 1970. And this is likely a tape from the Tuesday Night Jams at the Matrix that were common in those days, and 10-21-70 fell on a Wednesday. The player line-up doesn't sound right, either. There's a drummer here, and nobody listed played drums that I know of. Also, 2 bassists (Casady and Freiberg) seems unlikely, although maybe Freiberg was on keyboards this night, or they were trading off songs or something. I don't know that anybody here (or anywhere) can shed some light on this, just thought I'd pass along my thoughts. Regardless of what the actual date was or who was playing, this is one to put in the cd player and just let the music play.
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    17. Space Otter18. RaymondMBrown...OUT....8/22 19. Arkdeadhead 20. da roach-still
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    Got it today
    Thanks! I can have it out soon!!
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    To Arkdeadhead.... Thanks! Raymond 17. Space Otter 18. RaymondMBrown...OUT....8/22 19. Arkdeadhead
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    And working on it! Will get out to Arkdeadhead in a day or two! Thanks! Raymond
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    This came in the mail to me yesterday. I'll have it out to Raymond tomorrow or Thursday, depending on when I can get to a post office. Big kudos to stuman for bringing this one back to life.
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    I did`nt really want to post this .
    But folks please help our brothers and sisters out here , and keep the list up to date . there is a list of other people that are looking foward to this . ( not to mention this makes it a dificult choice to re-seed anything ) Longrifle To: stuman Subject: Re: PERRO vine Date: July 29, 2009 - 7:00pm " Got it, thx, It sure is special. Will have it out tomorrow. peace, " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16. Longrifle 17. Space Otter 18. RaymondMBrown 19. Arkdeadhead
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started by Lopezz Posted: November 19, 2008 - 4:40pm The PERRO Tapes PERRO is Planet Earth Rock & Roll Orchestra: David Crosby, Graham Nash, Jerry Garcia, Phil Lesh, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Grace Slick, Paul Kantner, Jorma Kaukonen, Jack Casady, David Freiberg and others... These are some tapes of everyone above in rehersal, working through songs, and just freely jamming together. Most of the songs arent finished and some barely get started and they are over. But these are still unbelievable, everyone should hear these! The other discs are just some jam sessions I have with the same crew. The last one is Crosby,Garcia,Lesh, and Hart aka David and the Dorks. This will be 6 audio disc and a data dvd with shn/flac files. The PERRO Tapes Disc 1 1. Is it really Monday 2. Under Anesthesia (false start) 3. Under Anesthesia 4. Crosby - I thought I would try something original... 5. Garcia's Tune (Loser)#1 6. Garcia's Tune (Loser)#2 7. Over Jordan (Wayfaring Stranger) 8. Mountian Song
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1. pkpotter 2. MarkintheDark 3. Gr8fulTed 4. Hal R 5.Oroboros 6. Ltapilot 7. That Nice Hippy Guy 8. Unclejon 9. stuman
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1. pkpotter 2. MarkintheDark 3. Gr8fulTed 4. Hal R 5.Oroboros 6. Ltapilot 7. That Nice Hippy Guy 8. Unclejon 9. stuman 10. Jimmy C. Gone are the days we stopped to decide........where we should go......we just ride.
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PERRO is: Planet Earth Rock and Roll Orchestra! 1. pkpotter 2. MarkintheDark 3. Gr8fulTed 4. Hal R 5.Oroboros 6. Ltapilot 7. That Nice Hippy Guy 8. Unclejon 9. stuman 10. Jimmy C. 11. Ursa Minor (funbebop@yahoo.com) Note: please check out David Crosby's first solo studio release : "If I could only remember my name..." features much of the 12-15-70 stuff , ironically David Geffen plays keyboards on this release...it has everybody in the SF scene on it - great recording and album - check it out - it's recently been remastered as well I wish that for just one time, You could stand inside my shoes, and for just that one moment, I could be you - Bob Dylan, Positively 4th St.
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Thank you lopezz for the relaese of this historical document. They are all here, jerry, phil, mickey, billy, crosby, nash, kantner, slick, freiberg, cassady, kaukonen, papa john, cippollina, hopkins. These are the minds that expanded ours. We all owe them for who we are now and how the planet has evolved.These recordings are them thinking, with their voices and instruments, pushing the status quo. And Stephen Barncard, who saw this and rose to the era. Umatched to this day. The best recording of acoustic..aka wooden...music the world has ever known, hands down. Look into Stephens work on the reissue, and read his story and his methods, the works of a master. The Classic Records 200 gram lp pressing of this is a masterwork, right down to the paper used for the artwork and the sound is breathtaking. If I Could Only Remember My Name....the classic recording of the San Francisco scene, as the Airplane, the Dead, Quicksilver, Crosby Nash, Joni Mitchell, Neil Young all sat together and played with and off one another, and expanded themselves and the universe. peace,pk
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Out to markinthedark monday. Enjoy, I sure did.
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some of my all time favorite music on there David and Dorks is wonderful - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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When burning the audio cd's I forgot to include the very first song. I had it seperate from the others with some Neil Young concerts. It's just a minute or two song with David talking. I didnt want to leave it out because it's an early version of the Mountian song that we hear him play later.(the start of Mountian #4) I have PM Pk and Mark and sent out replacement audio disc for the Perro Tapes. (and flac files) Sorry if this delays the vine. Lopezz
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...and the vine as well. Hi! I received the PERRO Tapes vine from PK today, and had received the "fix discs" from Lopezz a few days ago. I'll have the new, improved PERRO Tapes vine out to Gr8fulTed on Monday. Thanks for the vine and all the extra effort to make it perfect, Lopezz! ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************
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Hi! The PERRO vine is on its way to Gr8fulTed. Enjoy! MarkintheDark ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************
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Just in from Louisville: Perro with David & the Dorks. Interesting stuff. Will forward to Hal soon.
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Hey Hal: You're next: I trimmed down the paper to reduce the package size....
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Yesterday. Thank you once again Lopezz. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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and I will work on them this weekend. Thanks again Lopezz, for the grate tunes! The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
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this a.m. The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
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These extraordinary tunes arrived today. THANKS Lopezz!Off to ThatNiceHippyGuy as soon as I find an open Post Office. More than likely during lunch Friday 01/09/09 Peace Rick
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should be able to have it out to unclejon tommorow. Peace, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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to page # 3 ? there`s no list on page 2 , like I said , just moving the list ... 1. pkpotter 2. MarkintheDark 3. Gr8fulTed 4. Hal R 5.Oroboros 6. Ltapilot 7. That Nice Hippy Guy 8. Unclejon 9. stuman 10. Jimmy C. 11. Ursa Minor (funbebop@yahoo.com) 12, ejjd Thank you Lopezz ,, am really loking foward to this and all vines you seed !! Thank all involved here also !!
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...and stuman, you haven't received this yet? Been a couple of weeks since Unclejon posted it going out. (just checking in for a Vine Dick report ;^ ) Cheers, MarkintheDark ********************************************* **************This space for rent***************** *********************************************
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I hope the mail room people did`nt eat it ,, Unclejon I`ll pm you my address just in case ,,, hope it shows up someplace ...
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if it doesn't show up I'll reseed it. It may take a few days because I received 7 vines in the last two days! I've got a busy weekend ahead of me... "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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1. pkpotter2. MarkintheDark 3. Gr8fulTed 4. Hal R I love coming in late in the vine when there isn't too much traffic. I'm fine with a reseed if necessary. Thanks! 5.Oroboros 6. Ltapilot 7. That Nice Hippy Guy 8. Unclejon 9. stuman 10. Jimmy C. 11. Ursa Minor (funbebop@yahoo.com) 12, ejjd 13. gadeadhead
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still no sign of this ,, let`s see what the mailman brings me today ..
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this one still has`nt showed up ,, postal workers must be enjoying it ..
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but it might take a little bit. I dont keep my vines together. The Dorks are on a different drive than the perro tapes. And I will have to look for the other stuff. It's buried in folders within folders. I'm not very organized. 1500 gigs, two computers in seperate rooms. I'm a mess.
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I found everything. I think I can have this back out tomorrow.
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Thanks for the quick action on this.
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Thank you thank you !! I pm`d you mt address ... Your the man Lopezz !!
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I just don't get it...darn that USPS! Stu, check back with me next time - I am always willing to reseed anything that gets lost when it leaves my doorstep. In fact, I was waitin' to see if it was gonna show up but I never heard from you so I thought it had made it! Lopezz, thanks for the reseed...you guys all rock. "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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hey unclejon i did`nt want to nag you about it , Thank you LTApilot for the re-seed .. will have this out monday ... Thanks again !!
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ok well i`m wide awake ain`t I ,, Thank you Lopezz !!!
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This is ready to go , but I need an address for Jimmy C. I just sent him a PM.. 1. pkpotter 2. MarkintheDark 3. Gr8fulTed 4. Hal R 5.Oroboros 6. Ltapilot 7. That Nice Hippy Guy 8. Unclejon 9. stuman 10. Jimmy C. 11. Ursa Minor (funbebop@yahoo.com) 12, ejjd 13. gadeadhead Thank you Lopezz !!
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Hey now, are the "improvements" worth signing up for it again? Cheers, MarkintheDark ********************************************* **************This space for rent***************** *********************************************
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I have an address so this will be out tomorrow ,, off to the left coast .. Thanx again Lopezz !!
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Many thanks Lopezz! 8. Unclejon 9. stuman 10. Jimmy C. 11. Ursa Minor (funbebop@yahoo.com) 12, ejjd 13. gadeadhead 14. JackstrawfromColorado 15. "All we need is music, sweet music. There'll be music everywhere. There'll be laughing, singing, music swinging. Dancin in the street"
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I've located Polaris. But due to the light pollution here in the Los Angeles area........I'm unable to locate Ursa Minor........So, therefore, I'll need the address :o) November and more as I wait for the score. They're tellin' me forgivness is the key to every door.
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On the way to Ursa minor........er.......ah..........Louisville, KY. November and more as I wait for the score. They're tellin' me forgivness is the key to every door.
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Louisville tis the place to be, ready to return for the derby days!
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One question I have ............... Typically, I convert my flacs to wav and then burn disks so I can play them in any player. This vine includes individual cd's in .cda format as well as a data DVD with all the flacs. My plan is to convert flacs like usual. My question is this. What is the .cda format? Is that comparable to MP3? Is it lossless? Is it compatable in most players? Ok, Ok, I realize that is more than one question but I would really appreciate any answers you can provide. Peace - David
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As far as I know the audio cds I sent were in wav format. I wonder if they are the originals?
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*.cda was the original CD file suffix from back in the day. *.wav are equivalent. MP3 is way more lossy, but smaller files. There may be a little file header difference between .cda and .wav but the encoding is the same - I think the difference comes up in the disc format structure, whether its a data disc or an audio disc. Perro had both the DVD with the flac files and CDs with already decoded wav files of the DVD files. Maybe the player is looking at those .wav files as .cda files since the discs were created as audio CDs and not just data CDs with wav files on them. To summarize: *.wav files on an audio CD = *.cda files Perhaps one of the real gurus can school us, though. Bring it up in the tech discussions forum. ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************