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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • JimInMD
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    Love and Hate

    The latter is overrated, the former is precious. Life may be sweeter for this, I don't know...

    I do know one thing, we need less hate and more love. Be yourselves but don't get sucked towards the hate magnet. That's about as GD and I can write.

  • Mr. Ones
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    It’s A Thin Line…

    …Between Love And Hate, so sayeth the song of that title. I get burned out on bands repeatedly. That’s why I love having a super varied music collection. Burned out on A?? I think I’ll play B, G, or X. I’m seriously impressed at how much Dead some of you folks listen to, I just thrive on variety. So to each their own, that’s why they make chocolate AND vanilla!!

    I won’t disparage anyone’s tastes or bands they like/love. I don’t have time for that. And like DAVEROCK says, why do I have to put a label on it?? I play it, love it, and then play something else. The Dead happen to be one of my favorite bands, who I happen to own hundreds of releases by, But damn, I need so much more. Having said that, I am SUPER stoked for #43!!

    Music just happens to be the Best!!

  • Charlie3
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    It's ok to love things others don't, and it's ok to not like things others love. That's the benefit of being free to be you, you can dig what you want and disregard the rest.

    As far as dead burnout, if you listen long enough to anything it can get old and stale. Not to mention, there is a ton of great stuff out there that you will miss if you listen to nothing but dead. When I feel like listening to the dead, I dive in and groove, and when I don't, there are hundreds of other choices on the shelf. I do know from past experience, that just because a release doesn't really strike me as fantastic when it is announced, it doesn't mean I won't jones hard for it later if I pass on picking it up, so it's easier to just get nearly everything they release as I rarely have a case of buyers' remorse, but I have had to pay a premium to pick up stuff I passed on when it was first released.

  • Oroborous
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    it’s not hate vs love, it’s pure and simple burnout!
    I’ve been listening to too much Dead for over 45 years!
    Some things I used to love I now have to be in the mood for. It’s that simple.
    I won’t list the main culprits Randy cause I’m sure it will incite a shit wind we don’t want or need to blow!
    But, for instance, I’d probably be good if I never heard another me & my uncle again lol, but that doesn’t mean that on the right occasion it won’t get me grooving. So it’s not so much the song as it is I’ve just heard it too much (besides the Dead I used to play it in a band EVERY NIGHT, sometimes twice!, for many years).
    I’m with Daverock about Dark Star vs LL. Since DS is often more modal and or free form, thus not so repetitive etc, versus LL is basically a blues pattern that they improvise over, it’s just naturally more repetitive. And I love Pig, but his shtick too can be very repetitive and thus get old. Plus I’m not 16 anymore so it doesn’t resonate quite as much. Like it was mind blowing the first times on my teenage peanut brain, but now…
    Thus, to me, after all these years, it can sometimes get very tedious listening to something that long and repetitive.
    To be clear, this does not mean I don’t like it, I’m just burned out on it, big difference.
    And like any song, “Sometimes you get shown the light…”
    I only bring this up because I feel like there’s a good contingent out there that feels the same, or not?
    And I think sometimes here, like the rest of the world, things just get to damn binary.
    I mean we’re all supposed to be DHs on the same team loving the same band. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions etc, it’s just sometimes the tone used is a bummer.
    I liked how Doc gave his strong opinion, but without insulting anyone. It can be done.
    But, as stated, that’s just what moi thinks, so probably meaningless lol.
    Be Kind! Ain’t no time to hate.

  • daverock
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    Hate's too strong a word

    I certainly don't hate Pigpen, but I don't think everything he did was wonderful. Lovelight would have been great to me without the raps. Longer than 15 minutes and it over stayed it's welcome for me . Hard To Handle, on the other hand, was invariably great - all groove and no nonsense.

  • billy the kiddd
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    Anniversary show 7/14/84 / Doc. Fillmore West box

    38 years ago today I was at the Greek Theatre to see the Dead. I don't remember much about the show because 7/13/84 was what 1984 was all about. Doc, that Fillmore West box sounds fantastic, I believe your right, next year is the year it happens.

  • Forensicdoceleven
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    A mighty flame followeth a tiny spark......

    Hey rockers,

    I am a major deadhead. Saw shows in the 1981-1983 era. That was then, this is now. The new box does NOTHING for me. So what does that make me? LOL! If others like it, great!

    Me, I'm saving my $$$ for next years Banana Box Box Set: Fillmore West February 1970 complete.

    Do I have 1968-1972 blinders on? You bet. No apologies, no explanations........

    And for all you Pigpen/Lovelight haters out there, remember this: No Pigpen, no Grateful Dead.

    Rock on,

    Doc
    Bee to the blossom, moth to the flame; Each to his passion; what's in a name?

  • daverock
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    Why bother?

    Why bother considering yourself a Deadhead in the first place? Labels are for jerks. As has been said-music is the best - not all the crap that goes with it.

  • proudfoot
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    If this new box doesn't do it for you,

    then why bother considering yourself a Deadhead

  • Mr. Ones
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    Virtually Complete

    Sounds like an oxymoron to me, but who cares!! It’s primal 1969, JUST before 1970, which we ALL(well, almost all) have been clamoring for!! I simply CANNOT WAIT to unwrap this and push play!!

    Thanks Dave, Music is the Best!!

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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DSO are playing the Shepherd's Bush Empire in London on September 13th. Tickets are an extraordinary £108 ($140 ish) for two standing. It's a 2000 capacity venue and at those prices they'll be lucky to get a couple of hundred attending. Completely daft. I saw them some years ago at a small venue in London for about £20 each and had a great night as i did at Phil Lesh at the Brooklyn Bowl in Greenwich. My wife who is definitely not a deadhead had a great time too. I'll give it a miss this time, it's a shame.

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I'd have thought twice if it cost that much! Shepherds Bush Empire, too - yuk. Live Dead 69 were on at the ultra chic Under The Bridge when I saw them. Part of the Stamford Bridge complex - home to Chelsea F.C.

Nick1234 - yes, Brooklyn Bowl - that was where I saw Phil Lesh and co too. Good night . They played Viola Lee Blues....I am certain of it. Fairly certain anyway.

Colin - I have never heard that 1st Ash Ra Tempel album - it's got a good reputation though. The only solo album I have by Klaus Schulze is one called Irrlicht. Pretty good - more like the mid 70's Tangerine Dream - waves of synthesizer. Sounds a bit like watching a lava lamp.

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It's a GOOD ONE though I'm still waiting for an official Reconstruction release.

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You say Alice Cooper is playing in a golf tournament with Ace Frehley?!?!
Sounds great. I'd LOVE to go!!

C'mon USPS!!

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Would say, one can listen to recordings almost anytime, there is nothing like good live music, up close, with kind friends. Among too many stories.... have been fortunate to see DSO a good number of times, including an acoustic performance years ago at an old train station venue in White River Junction, VT for about 100 people. There was a small get together at a friends house nearby before hand, it turned out that Dino (drums) and Rob B. (keyboards) were there among the twelve or so guests, I was charged with grilling the salmon outside during a massive thunderstorm as the power went out briefly. So electric and acoustic. Tickets used to be reasonable around $30-35, surprised they are so much across the pond, travel expenses? As some know, Rob Eaton, DSO rhythm guitar, is directly responsible in the retrieval process of a good deal of the music we have been enjoying on Dave's Picks and elsewhere. Fortunate me, just heard about the release of a few reserved tickets for this Friday night Hot Tuna show, scored a primo front row seat, will have a great view of their feet.

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Shucks, if anyone out there will be near central New Hampshire Friday night, there's still, as of 4:20 pm, two front row seats left for Hot Tuna about $60 each, search on Flying Monkey, Plymouth NH. This is a funky small old movie house that seats about 200 or so.

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Just snagged 4th row center for the Lobero Theater on August 11.

And my Dave's 42 plus bonus disc is on the way.

It's a good day.

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Yes. I think Colorado is the team to beat.

The President’s trophy winner rarely brings home the Cup. Say goodbye to the Panthers.

It’s extraordinarily difficult to win the Cup three times in a row. Say goodbye to the Lightning.

We all know how the teams from Canadaland have performed over the last 25 years or so. I’ll be backing the Oilers in the west and the Leafs in the east. I’m truly hoping this is the year the Cup heads across the border. It’s been way too long. Regardless, say goodbye to our brothers to the north. All of them.

That leaves Colorado. Good luck to your local boys.

Same old for the Sabres and Red Wings. Ugh.

Thank God Better Call Saul is back.

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...DaP 1 vinyl? I got a second shipping notice and thought it was the vinyl, but when I looked again, it was for the a la carte DaP 42 I got for a buddy. Of course, neither my sub, nor the extra copy's tracking numbers work, but that's par for the course, and since they took down the DaP 1 vinyl page, there's nowhere to commiserate with others about it.

Edited to add: Go Hurricanes!

4-8-72 vinyl
A European seller on EBay currently has ‘more than 10 available’ and has sold 5, $99 + $40 shipping.

12-10-71 vinyl
Currently $82 on Amazon. I paid $104 a few months ago.

5-19-74 vinyl
Currently $185 on Amazon (seller in UK). I paid $105 3 years ago.

4-26,27-69 vinyl, Real Gone Music release.
Played it this weekend and it sounded grate.
But, it didn’t sound as good as Rhino vinyl. It had a lot of snap, crackle, and pop, and I wasn’t eating Rice Krispies. I’m going to run it through my Spin Clean system and see if that helps. Of note, I’ve received dirty and damaged Rhino vinyl before too.

Let’s go Red Wings.
The rebuild seems to be further along than expected. Yes, a little rough lately, but Larkin is out.
Haven’t picked a team yet for the Cup, but it certainly won’t be the Avs. I still hold a grudge from the 90’s.

New Garcia/Saunders release.
Excellent (visualize Mr. Burns tapping fingers).

PT, GFar, and anyone else trying to get healthy, glad you’re doing better.

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Oh yeah, they sucked, as expansion teams are wont to do.

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....laughs in Vegas.
But seriously, guess I'll root for my old team Calgary. Flame On!!
Playoff hockey is the best playoffs.
NFL draft this weekend here. Staying as far away as I can from the Strip.
Shipping noticed received. Dead tracking #. Par meet course.

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yesterday listening to 9/8/73
really enjoying it
wife comes into room grumpy
turns OFF CD in the middle of Let it Grow jam
can ya believe it

SERENITY NOW!!!

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No word on DaP1 vinyl here. (It's coming, I'm sure,,,, just not when)

Burnsy wrote New Jerry Release. But because of my reading style (I only seem to read the start of words), I thought New Jersey was releasing a new "something",,,, read the damn thing 3 times before I realized it was New Jerry. (which I had already ordered!)

Hadn't thought of Tangerine Dream in LONG time, thanks for the reminder. Listening to Tangram (set 1). Nice

FYI - just checked,,,,, DaP 1 vinyl still on schedule for 4/29 release,,,,, still no notice!

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What a show! The Other One, appears on Skull & Roses, killer Dark Star/ St. Stephen with T. C. sitting in. This run of shows is on the list of alltime runs of Grateful Dead runs and needs to be released in its entirety. A box set of this run of shows, sells out in minutes.

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I still wait for a ship notice for DP 42! let alone vol 1 vinyl I expect that next year some time at this point. Fulfillment and communication are let's say LACKING!

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Great Seinfeld reference!
I woulda broke her fingers if she touched my rig (just teasing) sorta lol

Well Jack I hope your right and we don’t experience cupus interuptus like the last couple years.
Full disclosure, you can count on one hand how many hockey games I’ve seen this year.
(Poor Mike probably just spewed his Horts after such sacrilege!)
The older I get the less time I have for sports, and since the Sabres have sucked so bad, for so long that hasn’t helped.
I have gotten back into football a bit since the Bills have been watchable and it’s only part of one day a week.

But I ALWAYS check out the NHL playoffs! And the AVs have been red hot, but how many times have we seen that happen: where the hot team blows their wad too soon and crashes and burns? It always seems like it’s about timing, that and if someone’s goalie starts spinning around on their heads and turns into Satin!
How many times have we seen a decent team become invincible because of a suddenly super hot goalie!
But I like your theory and hope your right!

And yass, Canadaland is way overdue, so if not the AVs, how bout dem Leafs! Go Leafs, lol, I just like saying go Leafs, don’t even need a reason lol. But how cool would that be, whole country would go nuts!

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Extremely tasty

A long time ago I had a little sumpin' and was overlooking a valley with the Dark Star etc. playing

A whole lotta fun

Oh yes...

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DaP 42 be shipped. If the winds be fair, if there be not pirates along the straits of Bakersfield, a small package of some value will come to ye shortly.

Nary a word there be on the DaP 1 vinyl. Bodes ill, that does.

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Oro - I believe you just made my Christmas card list with this joyful Leaf talk. With you, Angry Jack, and I pulling for the Leafs, why they outta…

Good on the Bills. I used to venture down to Rich/Wilson for games, always a great time, even when the temperature was tundra-like. God love those giant Genesse beers…

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Ooppphhh, sounds like a stomach ache lol.
Those were the days, getting down at the Ralph!

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latest email says, "label created",,,, so a week?

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"packaging sealed"

another week
"postage affixed"

then another week
"package picked up"

three weeks later:
delivery!

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5/8/almost wrote 77

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my first opinion of 9/8/73 release was "meh"
I am warming up to it

I still don't think it's ONE OF THE BEST but it's OK.

Dave the Hype Man (it's his gig) talks about Dick Latvala getting all gooey over the show.

Hmm

Addendum: He's Gone > Truckin' > NFAGDTRFBNFA...there's just something not quite MINDBLOWING about it.

6/10/73 Dave...6/10/73...
2/9/73 Dave...2/9/73...
3/21/73 Dave...3/21/73...

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A label has been created. So, there be hope left. Still no working tracking on DaP 42. Would love to be surprised with delivery tomorrow. Not holding my breath for a weekend listen...

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I haven't received any email notifications yet. Is it still being released today?
Dave's Picks Vol. 42 w/ Bonus Disc
(Pre-order - released on: 4/29/2022)

Today is release day
When it arrives is anybodyz guess
Shipping notice? "Maybe so, maybe not"
You cant tell with this bunch

BLUEBOY714.. Same BS different day. I plan to scrap the subscription next year buy 1 3 4 a la carte and 2 off ebay to get the bonus disk. This is not suppose to be so frustrating nothing but Kill joys.

to manufacture their CD for DP the quality has gone down (skips in CD, shipping late, no email communication, etc.). I understand supply chain and all of that but these are CDs and they s/b able to make without a problem unlike vinyl records where their is a shortage of lacquer due to the largest supplier burning down.

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My favorite version of Minglewood Blues, a real rocker! Me & My Uncle appears on Skull & Roses. Alligator, and the jam the Dead play after it, is fantastic, something I can listen to over and over again and it's just best, the exclamation point on a legendary run.

I have FTV 1 & 3 on order and looks like the date keeps moving. How's the weight and quality?

Anyone know why the DP19 Real Gone vinyl went from $129 via Real Gone website to $199 via record stores and other merchants? Seems steep considering the cover appears to be a low res blowup of the original cd pamphlet...

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One for the money, two For the show! - that's what I think.

I thought it was a cover song and didn't realize it was Keith singing at first. I had it on while I was working and lost track of what was going on. I think Keith's voice was clear and strong and had some range. He sounded a little bit untrained vocally. I thought the backup vocals would have been better without Donna. The kid had some potential for a song a night. I read the lyrics are from Hunter, which kind of surprised me because they don't really sound like him.

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Checked tracking, and despite getting a shipping notice on Monday, UPS has no idea where my Cds are. This is borderline ridiculous. Scratch that, it’s not borderline, it is completely ridiculous. Plus I ordered a la carte, so I paid for this “shipping” , if you want to call it that…….no wonder people order off of ebay. Just sayin’

It's been this way for long while. Buy it ala carte and ebay - sure, go for it if that's what suits you. For me the subscription is without question the best deal in my whole purchasing world.

I think Keith was a little out of his comfort zone on Let Me Sing live. Several shows after 9/8 I think Jerry et al start stretching out on the jam and Keith's vocal reentry shows some stress.

As for Hunter's lyrics - for awhile its struck me as strange when folks are surprised that a lyric is Hunter's if its not a jerry tune. All the grief that Samba in the Rain got and to me its lyric is pure straight up Hunter and all good, who cares if it was Vince and not Jerry.

"all good things in all good time"

Your Daves will arrive

side note
listened to some Jerry band for the first time in a loooong time (on cassette no less)
3/18/78
Gomorrah, Simple Twist, Midnight Moonlight
rich sounding funtimes

We miss you Jerry!!!!!

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To all of our shipping woes. Works for me, might not work for everyone.
So, for most of my life, I had to have EVERYTHING now!! Especially music!! So, I can't advise specifically HOW to accomplish this, but I FINALLY realized 2 things:
1-It WILL arrive eventually
2-I have SO MUCH great stuff to listen to!! I am forever wondering when I'll have time to listen to this disc or that disc so....now is the time. And by the time I'm done listening, my Dave's 42 will be here!!

Anyway as I said, it works for me. It's difficult to be patient, but, I am an old dog trying to learn a new trick.

Music is the Best!!

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I am at this moment listening to 12/3/81 on SiriusXM and enjoying it thoroughly, so yes, I appreciate your solution. In this moment, the music is pretty darn good!!

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The original drummer for Tangerine Dream and the guy on the kit for Stomu Yamashta's awesome band from 76-77 GO with Steve Winwood, Mike Shrieve and Al Di Meola, has passed away. Always loved those GO lp's back in the day. A true pioneer of the ambient space rock. Via con Dios Think I'll break out that first GO lp now, always a fun listen.

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ConeKid - still have the Go vinyl.

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