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Sweet piece Crow! I had to look that up. 65 watts from 1979-80 and excellent specs. Your recapped one should go at least another 10-20 years as this was still in the top build quality era. Just as a comparison I looked on fleabay and found a recapped AU-417 for $415.99 w/ free shipping. But I don't know that seller and just looking at other Sansuis of that era good serviced ones can be had under $600. I always thought Cambridge was good stuff but this reinforces my opinion that you're better off finding a top quality restored (by a top tech seller) vintage piece as they were Built To Last (brought it back to the Dead) and rebuildable. It is getting really hard to find techs though. My local guy is a hobbyist with an 11 month waiting list but I did find a guy 60 miles away who can get them in and out in under a month. Enjoy!
Cheers
One of the guys I watch who does very thorough restos has a 40W Kenwood integrated for $325. Another has a gorgeous 40W Kenwood integrated with matching tuner restored for $550.

Duplicate post, sorry can’t delete !

I’m really excited about this box. Lots of excellent shows and a fair range of shows from outside the golden 70s era. I would have gone for the cheaper digital but I wanted the book, photos and all the rest. However, this is possibly the last big box I buy. I’m 71 and on a pension, so I can afford Dave’s Picks and smaller boxes but not another biggie.
We’re really lucky that there’s still music of this quality being released and with such care in assembling all the accompanying material.

Yea I saw on music direct new Walkman style portable cassette decks with stereo speakers and an appropriate out to an audio system for 60 bucks. Which tells me that rhino could probably die something similar for $40 r so cost. Hey we can all dream a little dream

Yea I saw on music direct new Walkman style portable cassette decks with stereo speakers and an appropriate out to an audio system for 60 bucks. Which tells me that rhino could probably die something similar for $40 r so cost. Hey we can all dream a little dream

I looked them up and Teac and Tascam are selling new ones for not cheap.

Too bad I got rid of my Onkyo decks years ago.

this is a private club, but has anyone even heard the 82' shows I mentioned? Any tape traders around?

Blah, blah, blah cassette.

Did anyone grow up with these Fillmore West shows? Been around for years.

Cassette, blah, blah, blah.

Anyone want to rate this rare 84' Dark Star?

Did you know as Dark Star began there was a very clear shooting star that everyone saw?

I have heard them, they're real, and they're spectacular

The US festival show...it's been a while

I haven't heard them shows but would be more than ready to jump up on 'em if released! I like that '82 Box idea though, and what a way to break open more from a rare year. Dick's #32 (August) and a Road Trips #4.4 (April) is it for official releases, other than the 2022 Garden Box & the 30 Trips Boxilla show for that year. I can tell you the September`82 shows from the MsG Box are spectacular!

****Edited for Accuracy****

5.23 & 10.10 being long time favorites - along with Starlight Theatre 08.03.82 and Iowa City 08.10.82.

US Festival (even with video) is 'meh' for me > But I'd certainly take it, if it meant being able to get those other 5 shows ... i.e. tweaked (Greeks), and aud/matrix (Frosts) 👍

I did a lil sneak peeking (listening) on the Archives site and I am loving what I hear from the 1981 selections. March in Hartford & May in Hampton respectively. Kinda confirmed what I had already believed from the other official releases of that era. Them being Dick's #13, a May`81show (the last one Dick himself worked on I think? If not that was #14 then.) and the other was the first two shows in the Garden Box from March 1981.
All were excellent selections from the year, a few with them first set closing Big "Deals" that got the extra cool coda jam.

I had the good fortune of being there

I didn't see the meteor

I think it's a folktale, myself. Seeing a meteor in a major Metropolitan area is challenging

But maybe it did happen

7/13/84 is one the two best shows I ever attended

This was a cool show before the encore. The Dark Star encore just put it way over top!

Greek 81 was my favorite year at the Greek, but 82 was fantastic too. A 6 show 81 and 82 box set would be very cool.

....so, there's that!

Here's hoping it will be stand alone release ! I was never 100% sure, but I always suspected that my old tape of this show was recorded too fast. It wasn't blindingly opposite - no chipmunk vocals - but it did seem very high energy.
I also used like 7/14/84, though I have no memory of why now.
I also thought I'd seen a photo of Jerry playing "Dark Star" from 7/13, with the meteor in the sky behind him. But whether that's true or not I am beginning to doubt now.

Nice! Always dug those late period JGB versions. Saw one in Seattle 8/7/93. Awesome show and needs to be released. Friend linqed some D&Co video of Terrapin from 3/20 show. Those Sphere graphics are something else to my old eyes and brain. She's gonna make it there sometime in Abril - still not sure if I can pull that off.

Here's hopin that there are several stand-alone releases from the upcoming boxzilla for those who can't swing the whole enchilada. Not having the track lists yet is sorta odd and not optimal but also not make or break for me.

Enjoy the first Saturday of Spring! Play Dead!

Like Proudfoot, BTK and many. others, I had the good fortune to be at this show and to this day, it remains a seminal time in my dead life. I saw no meteor ... but plenty else, no doubt the effect of The Pharaoh (a little square of paper ingested earlier). Regarding the Scarlet-Touch-Fire, I'd also had the good fortune of hearing it in person already in KC on July 3 ... was completely dumbfounded at that time and hearing it again at the Greek left me wondering if it was going to be the new standard! My only other (slight) claim to fame is that I am in the footage of tapers at the Greek in the Long Strange Trip motion picture, still waiting for those royalty checks to come in! .......tcc

It's real :(

I'm in...

This is one, honestly, where I'd rather have the digital if only it came with a digital book...

These performances were originally recorded by Owsley “Bear” Stanley, Betty Cantor-Jackson, Kidd Candelario, Dan Healy, and John Cutler.

Do we know whom taped what show's??

This mention sparked memories of JGB's monster versions of this song that rolled along until it didn't seem like it would ever stop. IMHO, vastly more powerful than Clapton's version, either studio or live. And we've some great JGB versions released, in the collection, from 91 and 92.

Regards, HF

Dave says that there are 2 Dark Stars in the FW 69 compilation.
Assuming that the songs from 4-25,27-71 don’t overlap with Ladies & Gentlmen, those portions can be combined for more of each show.

So here’s my guess for 17 complete shows:

Capitol Theatre, Port Chester, NY (2/24/71)
Boston Music Hall, Boston, MA (9/15/72)
Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum, Uniondale, NY (3/16/73)
Winterland, San Francisco, CA (3/20/77)
Philadelphia Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA (5/13/78)
Red Rocks Amphitheatre, Morrison, CO (8/12/79)
Alpine Valley Music Theatre, East Troy, WI (8/23/80)
Hartford Civic Center, Hartford, CT (3/14/81)
Frost Amphitheatre, Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA (8/20/83)
Greek Theatre, University of California, Berkeley, CA (7/13/84)
Henry J. Kaiser Convention Center, Oakland, CA (11/21/85)
Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY (9/16/87)
Deer Creek Music Center, Noblesville, IN (7/15/89)
Oakland Coliseum Arena, Oakland, CA (12/27/89)
Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View, CA (5/12/91)
Capital Centre, Landover MD (3/17/93)
Boston Garden, Boston, MA (10/3/94)

The remaining shows are then the filler.

The cassette is novelty schwag and I expect that the show will come out on CD and/or vinyl eventually.

The ‘72 shows are both partials, so my list only has 16 complete shows.
Maybe 11-2-85 is complete.

I think the Hampton, VA on May 1, 1981 is the other complete show.

...yeah! and...
if it's anything close to
may 2nd 1981 spectrum

WOOHOO!

Lay Down Sally, one of my favorite Clapton songs. Video evidence shows Mayer is playing Alligator guitar for that song (not sure if it is the whole show). OK version, nothing great.

Saw Clapton play it at Alpine on the Crossroads tour 1988 and the JGB at Bradley Center 1991. For a decade, I was a huge Clapton fan but he lost me in 1998 with a crummy album and tour. I was so jacked when Jerry pulled out Lay Down Sally at Bradley Center. Speaking of that Bradley Center show, how is that still the only JGB release with Reuben and Cherise?!! Just like I feel Shakedown Street is underrepresented in GD releases, R & C is criminally underrepresented in the JGB canon.

edit: the JGB version was a significant improvement on Clapton's playing of Lay Down Sally. It really fit that band nicely.

I've seen Clapton twice, once horizontal and once with the great Stevie Winwood. I saw Freddie King twice, once at the tiny Bottom Line, once with 20,000 friends.

Summer 1974, Roosevelt Stadium, Clapton comes out and is so drunk he lays down on the stage with his guitar strapped on. Freddie King comes out and plays almost the entire show. And, for extra cover, they send Ringo Starr out to bang on the drums.

Same summer, I think, that Leon Russell played Roosevelt Stadium and I recall him rousing 20,000 to their feet with his piano playing, then he straps on a Strat, jumps on top of his grand piano and starts wailing...

Blues and rock 'n roll = good to grow up on.

Okay, I'm ready for the BfA 50th preorder... just confirm that it's coupled with 6-17-75.

....is heading to theaters at the end of April.

I'm shocked that this box set is still available. Almost 2 weeks since announcement and you can still order. Is the shine coming off of these special releases?

Hey now Part two of two of my DTV interview with Candace Brightman, the Lighting Director for the Dead 1972-1995 is up and streaming free at dreamswedreamed dot com.

Greetings All.

I mostly log in for insight and to better appreciate ALL GD music from all periods and this release sounds like a pretty happy thing.

My question, again, I mean no disrespect to anyone with my question, just learning: I understand the cost is prohibitive to many, definitely understand that. I enjoy listening to the recordings in their entirety, not just highlights or certain tracks. So, I get the differences between the Dave's Picks and Road Trips series.

...on to my question....some people do not want to purchase this, (even if they can possibly afford it), due to the lack of tracklisting. I understand 'transparency', but what I am trying to understand, for example, if a certain concert is missing which track(s), would it deter you from purchasing the set? Example to try and illustrate, it sounds like the Greek show is extremely vital. If there is only a partial show of this, what would stop you from purchasing this set?

...to further try and help clarify, what if the Greek show was missing one track, and the missing track was not Dark Star. Which track(s) would be the deal breaker(s)?

Something that might cause me to pause and not purchase something is the belief that the concert would be made available in its complete form at a later time. (Hendrix.----Band of Gypsys). I don't think that is the case with the dates from this 60th anniversary set.

I guess in the end I am just trying to figure out which dates are vital and essential that, unless they are complete, would cause someone to pass on the set, and for what reason? Or which tracks missing from which shows would cause someone to not purchase this set, and again for what reason?

Apologies to you all if this question is really a 'no brainer' and I just am too "new" to sort this out. Well, hope I was able to make some sense. Sigh.

Finally, if you would rather share stuff personally for my enlightenment, a PM conversation would be cool too.

Thank you all for your time, patience and consideration with my weird, novice questions.

Have a beautiful day.

Felt inside my wallet

No can do

600$ + is a phuqload of money

So I'm not surprised it's still available

If it were all 60s shows, I would get it regardless of the steep price

If 7/13/84 were missing Dark Star, I'd certainly be out.

But again, my circumstances say no to dropping 600+ regardless

Luckily I have plenty already to enjoy

Y'all be cool, Pancho

Here's an example of why a full track list could make or break this box:

Suppose you're someone who loves '69. (Huh. Huh huh huh. Etc.) Suppose the most interesting things in the whole box, as far as you're concerned, are the three '69 shows from the Fillmore West. We know that those shows are not complete. So for all we know the box set might include as little as one song from each date. OR it might include as much as full disc from each night. Or more. Or something in between.

And we can say the same for the Fillmore East shows from '71, and the Boston Music Hall shows from '72. They are also incomplete. So are we getting one song from each? A little filler at the end of a disc of some other show? Near complete sets on full discs? Who knows?

True, we know all the other shows are complete, and we can look up the full tracks lists if we want. But for me, the lack of info on the '69, '71, and '72 shows makes a big difference. I'm not that interested in "filling in the gaps" of years that aren't already well represented in my collection. Like everybody else, I like what I like, and I happen to like those years a lot more than '85 or the '90s. There are some shows in this box I'd really like to have: the Berkeley Greek, the Red Rocks and Winterland shows, that 3.16.73. But if I'm shelling out $600 for 60 discs (and a cassette I have no way of playing) I'd like to know that there are a few more shows that are going to get played more than once.

I'm not angry about this. I just find it puzzling. Why would you NOT list the tracks? I can't think of another box set by anybody that didn't list full contents. Anyway, I'm not planning to buy this one unless we get some more info. That's just me. You do you.

....kickstarter Greyfolded update. Test pressings successful. Shipping in 2-4 weeks.
Edit. Santa Fe Downs is being torn down. Brokedown Palace.

There are no stupid or novice questions. I just wish I had answers.

I think from time to time dave n company do get things wrong, but it's not for lack of trying. There's thousands of people that follow the series, box sets and these threads and thousands of different perspectives, likes and dislikes.

How's the saying go, you can't please all of the people all the time. Sometimes I get pissy but most of the time I see what they are trying to do and it makes perfect sense. This box is a bit pricey, but I got it anyway.. I mean, does the kid really need to go to college (or get food or clothes that fit).

As for the cassette.. I looked briefly at decks and then thought to myself.. no way Jose. I am hoping one of the good souls out there pulls it down, digitizes it and it makes it's happy way to my digital world. But I do wonder what they were thinking on this one and why I tossed my old Nakamichi just because all the bands had rotted. I honestly didn't think I would ever need it again and I also didn't think there were people out there that could fix it. But I still think this one was a silly gimmick and without a digital copy made available directly from Jeffrey Norman's remaster, this gimmick will not age well, about as well as cassettes did. Why go through all the trouble to remaster the show if you are going to put it on a cassette? Not that I am going to let that ruin the box for me, but I am scratching my chin a bit with a puzzled look on my face, they might as well have released it on an 8 track. Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

They could have released it as a standalone 1 CD release or even a 2 LP set. We don't get enough of those.

By the way, what is a custom keepsake box?

Who knows what they are up to. Could be a wooden box possibly with the edition number etched on it for good measure.

The Hampton '89 two show box set came in small wooden cigar type box (Virginia used to be a big tobacco producer up through the 80's 90's, probably still is). That was a pretty cool box, had some swag that meant something if you went to these shows. The tickets were the same as the ones they gave you to get in with some cool artwork and the band, of course, billed as "Formerly the Warlocks." I was happy to see that because the jackass that tore my tickets butchered them by ripping them in half instead of at the perforation, so like 25 years later I was reunited with the complete ticket + the stub instead the Frankenstub I had in the tickets box. Anyway, sorry for the side trip...

Hoping for six hundo it's a decent box. Hoping it's small enough to get through the door without taking it off the hinges.. perhaps it will even fit on one of my music shelves...

Has some Road Trips back in stock.
If you need to fill in.
Cheers

Is right now a bit cost prohibitive I'm hoping that TPTB release an all music edition. More than likely you'll find a complete box or two with all the swag sans music on eBay a few days after release. To me it's all about the music. As far as the cassette is concerned we've all seen LATVALA's J-card from 4/5/69, haven't we?

Crow Told Me, aside from the Avalon cassette, each venue has 3 CDs. Those 3 CDs may cover one complete show, one complete show with filler or 2 or 3 hybrid shows. So it's a fair assumption that each of the three hybrid show venues set is going to be around 3 hours or more, otherwise, why bother with 3 CDs?

Agree about the Formerly The Warlocks box. I know many people aren't interested in this stuff and would rather just have the music at a lower price, but I love all the presentation stuff. FTW had a great box, probably my favourite and great swag. Sadly, for me, the music wasn't quite so outstanding, but I certainly wouldn't get rid of it. The two Winterland boxes were also great, a good box, good swag and well packaged, I do like that format. I also love the Pacific Northwest box but would have liked to have a bit more swag in that one.

As for releasing the Avalon Show separately, sounds like a perfect RSD release to me, either on vinyl or CD or both. The other release that immediately jumps out to me off the back of this box, is a DaP of the final show and a half of the Port Chester run, as it sounds as though we're going to get a show and a half this time.

The genetic testing of the Son of Boxilla proves to be half Brent's lineage, so to say. No issue for me, I like all the band line-ups & eras for their own reasons individually, as well for the eras within the specific eras. I am just glad to see a decent but not too colossal or unaffordable Big Box. I wasn't able to even consider the 30 Trips back in the day & I'm fairly new to the official release collecting.

That does however make me wonder how much longer the Garden Box from 2022 will still be available? It must be getting close to selling out and also happens to be a Brent era release. I must say it is a fantastic early Brent Box to which is also 'venue' focused, as it is all shows from MsG in NYc.

8 Track! Now you are talking Jim!

I'm struggling guys. I want to score it, then i don't. Thoughts preoccupied throughout the day. Cold sweats. Troubling sleeping.

I know I shouldn't, the Man is using me at this point. But my Precious would be so good with me. I know this.

I have already so many fixes to choose from and I know there will be great ones later. The sweats almost too much.

you have the rest of your life to listen to it...go for it, bro!

....I hear ya man. Long distance online hug inbound. 🫂.
There's a separate thread Mary made for these discussions.

I think Dave said one cd per show; however, you know your are getting at least part of the first set and second set on 6/5 (2 Darks Stars)
If you cut out the Lovelight with Janis on 6/7 and the songs with Elvis Bishop on 6/8, you pretty much have 3 complete shows. They are short, as they were opening for Janis; couple the length of shows with playing songs with non Dead performers, and you get a mega box appearance. Would be nice to see a 68' or 69' box with what's left; however, guess you got to hold something back for boxs like 30 trips and ETR.

Sam

Will the 1991 show be from multi-tracks.. ?

No big surprises

Can't find it on the deadnet site
Cheers, G.