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Ain't no man can avoid being born average, but there ain't no man got to be common.....

OK, the 71 gauntlet has been thrown down, and shucks I don't feel like working right now..........

Part of the issue---if it can be called that---with April 24 1971 is that, in April the bar was set high. One sublime show, many excellent shows, many very good shows. So does that make an "average" show like 4/24 "bad"? No, of course not, it merely "suffers by comparison". If it was the only thing I had on my desert island, I could survive OK, but at home and in my car I have other choices and maybe don't listen as often as I should.

Maybe what's really amazing is that the very next day, the Dead sound well rested and played an unbelievably good show at the Fillmore East.

November 15 1971. Been a huge advocate of that one since back in the day. Musically very interesting and well played, has a definite psychedelic stoner Americana edge to it. Back in the days of B & Ps, my Florida tape mentor sent me an unbelievably good low generation FM copy. Back then, we sent 1 or 2 cassettes back and forth in unpadded letter envelopes, merely wrapped in a single sheet of paper, and never lost an envelope!! It's good old Grateful Dead gooey goodness!!! Uncommonly good.............

I am only an average man but, by George, I work harder at it than the average man!!!

Rock on,

Doc
It takes a real storm in the average person's life to make him realize how much worrying he has done over the squalls.....

Hearing it from start to finish in the car at full volume while driving north on I-5 from Salem OR to Seattle with rainbows and sunny skies and billowy clouds and rain squalls...priceless

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box set would be cool, 68,70,71,72,77,79 and on and on.

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The first Dead New Years Eve show I saw was in 1970, it was broadcast live on KQED channel. 9, I watched it live at my parents house. Hopefully the video will come out as an official release someday. HAPPY New Years Everybody.

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Happy New Year all.. soo.. what will this years Box-set be.. ?

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How much was filmed?

Great candidate for MUATM, if that is still a thing

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Hopefully we get 2 separate Boxes this year:
30 Trips part 2
Summer 85

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Don't know what it will be, but it will be something really big, per Dave.

I don't think it will be another 30 Trips themed box.

Edit. And the 2024 Box is still available. Kind of surprised as the box is outstanding and the run is 10k. Hopefully this box sells out soon and the remaining Dave's Picks as we need to keep this party going.

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Dave's Felt Forum 12 7 71

A nice performance of songs (including Cumberland Blues)

But no X factor

12/5/71 on the other hand is peak GD, as we all know. Probably not in the vault. "Das ist doch eine Schade."

12/6/71 selections that were included....gotta check that out a little later

Happy New Year to you all, my fellow Deadheads

Be strong, stay vigilant, practice kindness

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So sez Bono anyway. And is there anything Bono doesn't know?

Earthquakes. Strange lights in the sky. War and rumors of war. Governments falling and planes falling out of the sky. Seems like the world is ending. But then again, it always is.

Walt Whitman said it like this:

"I have heard what the talkers were talking, the talk of the beginning and the end
But I do not talk of the beginning or the end.

There was never any more inception than there is now,
Nor any more youth or age than there is now,
And will never be any more perfection than there is now,
Nor any more heaven or hell than there is now."

Which is one reason I don't do resolutions.

Instead I had me a fine morning. Went for a drive to the riverside with the wife, DaP 52 playing on the car CD. Ate sammiches and looked at birdies and waters rolling by. Back home now, cooking up my black eyed peas for luck, digging on the ABB's 5/1/73 show and life is purty good.

Happy New Year, all!

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The possibilities are endless.
HAPPY NEW YEAR DEADLAND

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Don't forget to breathe. Or rock. It don't matter if you're young or old...

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...about a
SUMMER '85 box yesterday...
Yo...y'all know who...

summer's here (well kinda soon)
and the time is right

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Not sure about that for the 60th (unless they do multiple ones 😁) but chever way, that would be something…yes it really would!

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and SO hard to say what good ol' DL and friends will eventually settle on for us.
I Love the Boxomoxoa idea as well (!) ... Meanwhile, 4-5 weeks back, the whole 'modules' concept - including summer '85 in some form - was discussed.

It's all good by me.

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It's quite simple really. For the 60th anniversary bring out a box of 60s shows, for the 70th anniversary give us a box of 70s shows, for the 80th anniversary in 2045 produce a box of 80s shows and in 2055 they could release a box of 90s shows for the 90th anniversary. Sad to say, I probably won't be around for the last two anniversaries.

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As regards boxes, please remember those of us who have to pay overseas' postage! I'd rather have a June '76 with cheaper postage and duty to pay than a drum!
Also let's not forget it's the 50th for Blues For Allah and I have always loved that one!
Happy New Year

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Black Sabbath - Hot Line
Deep purple - You fool no one
New riders or the purple sage - I don't need no doctor
Stevie Ray Vaughan - Willie the wimp
Megadeth - these boots

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If it's got the word Boxomoxoa in it, there must be some 1968 Banana box nuggets to go with it. Anything ending in moxoa = 1968 goodness. Right?

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...50th
for LP's
tiger rose
old & in the way
seastones
blues for ALL ah

should be a
surprising year
indeed

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The bigger the better, the more the merrier .

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the guy who does the 31 days of december, put up a place called Uncle John's Dyes.

Some incredible tie dye are if interested.

I want a big box!

As my old man used to say, "If your gonna be broke, be happy"

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no reason to start that with Vguy sorry but his comment is about as innocuous as it gets.

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Keith and Donna's album came out in 1975 too. An album I have never heard. Or seen, for that matter.
Having just looked it up online I see that Jerry plays guitar on all the tracks. And it has a picture of a baby on the cover.

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Had forgotten about Old &.. who owns the rights to their recordings these days ?

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I haven't played their 1975 album for a while, but my memory tells me it is nothing special. I recall being disappointed when I first heard it in 1975. It has never been reissued on CD, which is telling. I think every other Round Records release has been reissued on CD, but not this one. The baby on the cover is Zion, Keith and Donna's son.

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Found!

Happy 2025, People.
May You Fare Well

Sixtus

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I have just had a check up in my attic, where seldom played records are stacked, and there amongst my old Dead albums is a sampler of then recent Round Records releases, called " For Dead Heads" which was a bonus album included with "Steal Your Face" - released over here in summer 1976. There is a Keith and Donna track on it called " Every Song I Sing". I don't think I've played this for over 30 years
The other album that is represented on this record, that hasn't been mentioned on here recently, is the one by The Diga Rhythm Band. I did get that one, housed in an excellent silver cover, and I found it quite enjoyable back in the day. I had nothing else like it at the time - in fact I still don't. But again, I'll bet I haven't given that one a spin since the 1980's. Maybe I will this weekend.

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I still have the first PIL single in the faux newspaper wrapper and remember enjoying tracks from the ‘Metal Box’ album but couldn’t afford to buy it.

PROUDFOOT
A challenge is a challenge so I’ve just streamed ‘Flowers of Romance’ and found it listenable with several tracks that I liked.
Of course, I was coming to it after listening to ‘Further Selections from The Electric Harpsichord’ by Catherine Christer Hennix which I.enjoyed but found a little disturbing. Not something that I’ll listen to very frequently.
I’m now relistening to ‘Absolute Elsewhere’ by Blood Incantation.

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Not sure who owns the recordings now. I have a version that was released in 2013.
Old & In The Way
Live At The Boarding House
The Complete Shows
10-1-73 & 10-8-73
4 discs
Record label: Acoustic Oasis

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Back in the '70s, the guy who was my LSD connection lived across the street. Conveniently. He was one of those people that went to punk show (I think it was Black Flag) and then just decided to "go punk." Cut his hair really short and started wearing retro '50 bowling shirts.

He had money, as dealers often do, so when PIL's metal box album came out he bought it right away. Listened to it every day for weeks, including a couple times when I came over. Sounded really, really weird, like some demented take off of dub reggae. Then one day he realized: you were supposed to play those 12 inch records at 45 rpm. We'd been listening at 33. For weeks. Sounded a good deal more normal at the correct speed.

Man. We were pretty stoned, in those days.

PIL was OK. I remember liking their album that was called Album.

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Everybody having a good 2025, loaded with a lot of GOGD.

Just finished listening to the complete 1999 'So Many Roads' Box.
This is another beauty. What a pleasure!!!

One track to mention (Disc 1): Dark Star/China Cat >1968-03-16 - outstanding!!!
A lot of good spirit and fun to start off the new year

Cheers G.

Finally got back to this show this week. It has probably been over a year since the last time I listened. Still my favorite New Year's Eve show and one of my top five shows of all time.
My 15 daughter was singing along to the first Good Lovin since Pig Pen in 72 tonight in the car.
So interesting to me that they went back on the road in the second half of 76 and played through mid October and then disappeared until New Year's Eve. What were they up to from Mid October through the end of the year in 76? Does anyone know?

Oh and Hey we get a new Dave's Picks at the end of the month. Still love the Dead and have fun hanging out on this site.

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Ah For Deadheads. I remember it well!
Steal Your Face was my first introduction and with my true British understatement said "That's ok!" 49 years later and here I am!
Although SYF is not really representative and is much maligned, I do think that quite a few of the stand-alone versions are worth revisiting; Mississippi Half Step has a gorgeous solo, Stella Blue, Casey Jones all good stuff and then of course there's the cover...!

P.S. Diga is really worth having

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I think the problem is the sound of it…
Plenty of good playing, just sounds less than stellar.
That’s pretty much the theme that Phil and Bear have stated too…

But like Ian, big part of my indoctrination, that and Skull&Roses!
Fortunately tapes were soon to follow!
Used to love the photos inside, did all kinds of things to my adolescent imagination…like how do you smoke a bong like that lol
Perhaps those cool WOS pics imprinted my pea brain somehow causing my never ending searching for the sound and spending countless denaros on expensive audio gear when I had no car, no place of my own, and barely ate sometimes…yep, those pics could be considered a gateway drug for audio lol

And of course, like many, those two albums were the “cleaning” albums!
About ten years ago I finally got my vinyl etc from my parents house.
Wouldn’t ya know there was still some dirt weed stuck in SYF!

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Ok, PIL talk made me go see what I had in stock.

I have Metal Box and Public Image.

Listening to first cut off Metal Box, Albatross. I like it. From the talk that just went by I was expecting a more metal sound, but I like this cut and may listen to more.

Sidebar - just for laughs, I enjoy V's humor. I further find it funny when comments about a post are 4 times longer than the comment. When I read the original story, I thought, in my best Python voice, "I smiled quietly to myself".

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first Dead show.

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.....TOOL - Lateralus
Linda Ronstant - Mas Canciones
GOGD - Duke '78 second set
The Moody Blues - Long Distance Voyager
PiL - Second Edition. Yeah. I did the thing. Kinda creepy. I like it.

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    I can't remember the where the clip I saw that was at or on, but Bob and The Band are in a taxi cab somewhere in the U.K. after a show and Dylan is hollering out the window in response to someone's inaudible yet supposed positive comments.
    I wonder how much influence all that specific negativity had upon his songwriting then? Top that off with being a bit spegeetered on them "diet pills" I sort of understand why he could become a cynical assholio!
    Personally I dig the Rolling Thunder Review era and the "Street Legal" album. Though the final tour with The Band in 1974 was a pinnacle of music. Dylan is the one musician with the most 'eras' and longevity through metamorphosis it would seem, Even more than The Dead.
    Neil Young also had similar life tribulations and musical themes to his long professional career journey. Though I think Neil was honestly a true 'hippie dream' believer {till he wasn't} unlike Dylan who may have really never been.

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    Two other good dvd's - I haven't got the blu ray discs of these or Don't Look Back, are "The Other Side of the Mirror", which features great performances from the Newport Folk Festivals of 1963,1964 and 1965 and Martin Scorsese's " No Direction Home" which takes us up to May 1966.

    We can't really know about another's drug use unless they tell us about it themselves. But if pushed, I would say his work in the 60's seems more driven by amphetamines than any other drug.

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    But maybe the earlier comments that he was taking speed is what influenced his song writing.
    If he was taking acid instead, his writing may have been more like the hippies at that time.

    I had previously considered getting the Dylan Box but then decided against it due to the lack of variety in the set lists.
    I do have the Don’t Look Back Blu-ray, which is pretty good.

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    I saw this film earlier today. Really enjoyed it, too. When I got back home I dipped into the 1966 box set of live recordings, with Copenhagen and then Dublin from 1st and 5th respectively. Great stuff - although you do basically get the same set repeated over and over again. The first 3 songs of the electric set have always seemed a bit of an odd choice to me, considering all the other great songs he had at his disposal. But it's a great box to own - one to take all year to get through, though.

    RYXS - it's not just his music that seems at odds with the psychedelic dream - from 1965 his attitude to his audience and peers seems quite hostile too. In some ways, his behaviour seems a bit more in line with the punks of the following decade than with hippies of the 60's.

    Curiously, in some ways Pete Seeger comes across as a more sympathetic character than Dylan, with his life long commitment to civil rights and support of left wing causes and community based projects.

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    Daverock seems to be right on about that lyrical subject matter. I may be a youngster and all this was before my time but analytically speaking I can hear exactly that point that was made! The early folksy stuff of Dylan was way more peaceful fun time 'hippie' than Hwy61 and it's gritty element of hard time living. What a trip!
    The songs "Ballad of a Thin Man" and "Tom Thumb Blues" really set the true tone of the motif from the book-ended "Rollin' Stone" to "Desolation Row" and all of the last gasps of any good time hippie dream desperation along the way. Weirdly that album was in 1965~'66. The Dead and the happy San Francisco scene was just swinging into full bloom. I guess Dylan had foreshadowed something that wouldn't be realized out west till a few years later at the festival in Altamont. What happened Bob? Was it the New York City living?

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    The most psychedelic album Bob Dylan cut, to my ears, is Bringing It All Back Home. Lyrically, not musically. Mr Tambourine sounds like a celebration of tripping to me. There is also a sense of fun and wonder on that album that seemed to disappear on the albums that followed. Not that I don't think Highawy 61 and Blonde On Blonde aren't great - amazing records - but they had a hardness about them that didn't exist before. And Positively 4th Street must be one of the harshest songs ever written. Welcome to the summer of love!

    With Rainy Day Women, I'm sure he was aware of both connotations of the word stoned. The fact that he never stooped to explanation encourages different interpretations. Which is surely for the best.

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    I used to go and see Garcia play there all the time, he played there a lot. I saw Garcia and Hunter play there one night and Hunter said ,I remember when this place was a grocery store, we used to shop lift here. I saw Muddy Waters play there, Big Mama Thorton and Charlie Musslewhite one night. I saw Garcia play a fantastic acoustic show there one night I believe it was Jan. of 86 , hopefully it will be released one day.

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    Man do I wish I was a fly on the wall on some of those nights. Well, at least we have some of the tapes and hopefully more to follow.

    Thanks Cousins

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    Man, just put the Live at Keystone 2 LP(purple swirl vinyl) on the turntable. Had not heard it in years, the playing is great, Jerry's tone is so good, and his voice so clear! Forgot David Grisman was on it too. Listening to it brings so many memories.
    Spent many hours at both Keystones, small clubs where you could get really close to the band, and I don't recall these shows selling out(tickets at the door only) At the Berkeley location, Jerry and the band had to make their way through the crowd to get to the stage; cool room upstairs with a foosball game, and couches. These days are long gone; I always get nostalgic listening to Like a Road!
    Pretty sure BTK went to a few of these :-)

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    As Joan said about Bob in Diamonds & Rust

    Now you're telling me, you're not nostalgic
    Then give me another word for it,
    you were so good with words and at keeping things vague