Grateful Dead

What is this release I saw on fleabay? The 4-8-72 Wembley Pool show on 5-LP made in Germany but with the Rhino symbol on the back and copyrights 2022 and 2011. Made in Germany? Guy wants $150, says it is new but obviously opened. Seller is out of Oregon and only wants $5.38 shipping. Not buying it but just curious. All yours if you want it, lol.
Cheers

Hey 1stShow, This LP box was Originally released as part of RSD 2022 (April).

recordstoreday "dot" com/SpecialRelease/14602

If anybody's interested, just poke around. Here's one for 140.54 incl. shipping:
rsdmrkt "dot" com/upc/603497842735

Quick answer!
I'm going to pass.
Made in Germany made me wonder.
Cheers

I have a cynical response to that...I better post that response on the TATB board

happy anniversary!

Farewell to the last surviving member of The Band, one of the best US-Canadian partnerships ever. Lucky enough to see the original lineup twice, may they all RIP.
Forever neighbours
Never neighbors

So 54 is 3-26-73 Baltimore Civic Center
Bonus disc is 3-31-73 Buffalo
Or did we already know this?
My Anheuser's disease is kicking in this AM
Cheers
Still free shipping on the subscription for a couple more days.

Listening to Garths' rendition of Dark Star as I write this. An underrated musician and more important to the sound and songs of the Band than most people realize.

The latest GD bulletin just arrived in my email inbox and there's no seaside chat. Nor any announcements about upcoming boxes. No news at all, really, unless maybe the bit about a yellow vinyl edition of Skull & Roses counts as something "new."

I knew about Baltimore but not the bonus disc. But I have barely been paying attention lately

....I'm going back to the Hollywood Bowl hopefully! Tix requested. Need good news people!!

You were truly a kind individual, funny as hell in your way, and one of the most original and underrated performers ever! A musical genius.
My cousin would tell me how he’d often prefer to ride in the crew van instead of the bus and would transpose very unique kinds of music by ear like you might do a wordle! He love all kinds of music and that added to the incomparable musical stew he created
May the four winds blow you safely home…better git along now, Maud’ll be waitin…

Tanks NC, Jeff, Conekid et el for the anny salutations. Hard to believe it’s been 46 years!

There’s Mikey! Go Leafs! So far so good 🤞

Hey Oro! I hope all is well Amigo! You got to know the boys in the Band pretty well, that would have been amazing. These guys were doing “Americana” long before it became a hip marketing ploy. Still one of THE best shows I saw was their 1976 finale, two months before the Last Waltz. I’m pulling out The Academy of Music (Rock of Ages) box set today, just to hear Garth’s magic and Levon’s tenor.
Stay well - I think things are about to get weird down there again. If it ever gets to be too much, the welcome mat is always out here.

I'm not a big The Band fan, but I like em enough to say "y'all be cool, Garth."

Interestingly, Cripple Creek came into my mind earlier today.

Ski hill chat just posted plugging the subscriptions from Dave.

Proudfoot / TN John - sent you PMs

....crazy.

All is good, my man

:)))

It's the eleventh sign of the apocalypse. Get the children and run (or skate)

....announced a huge tour with Gov't Mule, Steve Winwood, Buddy Guy, Little Feat and others. Check it out.
Vegas denied!

Sweet Vguy, I need to check that out and see if Minneapolis is on the list. Had such a blast last summer.

Every time I look at the news these days it's like a sci fi movie. Los Angeles a smoking ruin. New Orleans buried under snow. Let's invade Greenland and rename the Gulf of America. Wtf?

So I've kind of quit looking at the news.

Except for this: TTB has announced 2025 summer tour, which will cover pretty much the whole danged country. Of most interest to me are Aug 1-2 at Red Rocks, Aug 7-8 in Bend, Aug 12 in Berkeley, and Aug 15 in Stateline, NV. I'm-a probably be there for the RR and the Bends.

You can check out the tour schedule at tedeschitrucksband dot com if ya want.

Signs, high times
Might ain't right
Signs, high times
Everything ain't black and white

Damnit! Not coming to MN this year.

Would be pretty cool to see them at the Beacon Theatre and of course Red Rocks....

Mike, check PMs
DV…if you ever come out here, let me know because if the stars can align, would love to meet up. Almost had the pleasure with Good ole Angry Jack, but it unfortunately logistically didn’t work.
Speaking of…Jack? You still out there?
Hopefully you’ll at least be around for our end of year Dnet hockey club lol

Ok, where’s Dave? Living the dream I’m sure lol
Just, something feels different…

See PMs

Absolutely OB, if I make out that way you can count on it. Haven't been to CO since 2009. It has been a while.

Couldnt sleep - rare for me - so I found the "Master of the wee hours" - ol Frank himself; "Standing Room Only" - 3 cd set from 2018 with one of the shows from 1966 that became one of the GOAT live records.. "At the Sands with Count Basie".. nice, if uneven.. BW and goodnight from Copenhagen..

They aren't related. Just what I've been listening to tonight. 10/3/76 to get ready for the upcoming Dave's Vol 53 release. It's been ages since I listened to 1976 and I felt like it was overdue. This was actually the first show I listened to from 30 Trips (strange choice, I know) and I was a bit underwhelmed. But now, years later, and not comparing it to any of my favorites from June, or 7/13/76 (another personal fave) I thought this release has plenty of great music. It's left me excited to hear the show from the night before. Glad Dave's going back to this year.

And then ofc any time January 22nd rolls around I think of the Close Encounters Space show, released as Dave's Vol 23. I didn't listen to it last year so it was time to rectify that. This time, listening to Row Jimmy, I found myself noticing how honey-sweet Garcia's voice is only two weeks after the SoCal laryngitis shows. Compared to another of my very favorite 1978 gigs, 12/19 - which fell nearly a month after the first of the infamous bronchitis cancellations, and where his voice is rather ragged - in January he'd made a full recovery. But of course, as someone who has had bronchitis far more times than can be accurately remembered, I should in fairness point out that bronchitis is far more onerous than mere laryngitis.

Hope all of you are staying as healthy as possible - whether that's mental health, physical, spiritual: or all of those.

You would think it has to come out tomorrow.

And are we due for some 89 shows again?

I think the last shows released from 89 are from the Giants Stadium Box in 2019? Wow, that was six years ago.

Seaside chat tomorrow?

We already know the pick, so just start shipping.

Mornin', rockers!!

Short LOA from work while I care for my wife. Now is the true test of vows made years ago..............

For anybody so inclined, a large number of Furthur soundboards have been recently posted at Lossless Legs. Saw a couple of those shows back in the day, as I recall was enjoyable at the time.............

Here I am trying to live, or rather, I am trying to teach the death within me how to live......

Rock on,

Doc
True love makes the thought of death frequent, easy, without terrors; it merely becomes the standard of comparison, the price one would pay for many things.....

I just want to second the commencement of shipping :)

I know you'll make good on your vows, my man.

:)))

12/26/70 on the way in today

12/15/71 Dark Star etc. yesterday on the way home. YES.

Earlier this week I grabbed a torrent containing a 2008 Carolyn Garcia presentation. There’s an hour presentation and then a 25 min Q&A. She goes through the Pranksters, Acid Tests and then the Dead. The Pranksters/Acid Tests discussion was pretty much in line with the Tom Wolfe book. The Dead portion and the Q&A were interesting. Well worth the listen.

Today.. ?

Alright! Where's the chat at?
Thought it would've been last week but that was the monthly bulletin.

Canadian citizens can't post on US-based websites.

That's why we have nothing from DaL.

....is that an EO like that is believable.
Bizarro world.

to post musical thoughts on the political page and not see the music page (with politics).

So, repeating my plea: no humongous box this year, please. We all need to watch the $$ because our national economy may go roller-coaster due to the Project 2025 fascists.

I'm sayin', give us all the '66, '67, '68 tapes left. Throw in a few '69 and '70 shows. Keep the box under $250.

This is the 60th for chrissakes. I started on the bus in '71 and I'm interested in the band's early years but there ain't gonna be anyone around in a few years to give a damn about the early years. And you know they're not making Picks outta anything before 1971.

Okay, let's go back to crushing sick little fascists....

That people tend to like the eras most when they actually got into the band ?Maybe it's different for me not living in America, and getting into The Dead via records rather than going to live shows. I started buying their records with a vengeance in 1976 - and Anthem was the one that did the trick.
It was great seeing them in 1981 and 1990 - but neither of those two years interest me much now in terms of listening to live recordings. I wasn't "there" at the time, but I prefer the 60's to the 80's.

Not having listened to The Dead much this year I decided to give it a go. Rather than pick an unknown show from an underrated year, I decided to go the top of the tree - thereabouts. Wembley 4/7/72. Good all the way through - I really like the "Playing" from this tour, and the "The Other One ", both featured here. And all the short songs.
To paraphrase Morrissey " There's more to the The Dead than Europe 72. But not much more."

Kind of bummed we haven't got a seaside chat yet.

And yes, I still like and listen to the years that I went. Bruce is great in the band, listening to 4-27-91 now. I wasn’t there but Vguy was.
Was listening to 3-29-90 in the car today.
Listened to 7-21,22,23-90 in sequence earlier this week.

The first CD I ever bought was Anthem in ‘89. Then had to make a cassette copy of it because I didn’t have a CD player. Wore out that tape and eventually got a CD player.

I collect show torrents and listen to the primal years. There’s a lot of stuff there but it’s not all release worthy. Presumably what’s in the Vault sounds better, but we won’t know until Dave/Rhino release it all.
So yes, release it all now while the older heads are still around to enjoy it. I’ll buy it, and keep buying the releases that follow.

I'd second what HF says. A number of us have been saying the same thing for awhile: release whatever is release-able from the vault from the late 1960s. Those who were there aren't going to be around that much longer; it's the right thing to do. "... 'twere well it were done quickly" ?

I certainly hope they don't try to release a monster 60-show box! At this point I have too much to listen to, anyway. I'd probably feel obligated to buy it (fomo) but I'd rather not lay out that much cashish.

4/27/91 was an excellent show - so was the next day. Might as Well was reliable canary in the coal mine that Garcia was enjoying himself. A Sugar Mag 'sandwich' across two dates or across a stand of shows always makes me link two shows together in my mind. Glad I was there for both.

One final musing. Take it with a grain of salt bc I am notoriously incorrect about all of my guesses about Dave's Picks and boxes. However - I felt like last year's box (Devils) wasn't the original plan, OR, if it was the plan all along, it was used specifically to fill the gap while they were working on something more complicated. We know from other comments Dave has made that April '78 has been 'on the bench' in almost ready-to-ship condition for many years now. Too bad we can't ask Silberman when he got asked to write up the notes. Anyway, the late announcement on that box last year made me wonder if they were indeed doing their level best to master some early tapes to the best of their ability. Perhaps it took longer than planned; perhaps also they've been having to sort through a lot of partial shows to try to shape a box set featuring that material, and they didn't want to rush things. I've got no intel to back this up, though.

....so much fun. Back then, there was a group of Vegas heads that formed The Jamband Society. Used to meet up at a bar called Legends with cassette decks and patch cords.
The Society is indeed alive and well.

My run of live GD shows was '72 to '92 and I attended lots of shows in the '80s. Mostly enjoyed them all, though I never really loved daytime shows -- I like the anonymity of darkness -- and by the mid-80s they seemed to be running out of gas and I got tired of "the scene." But those feelings apply to events long in the past.

The tapes, obviously, are so different an experience from the shows themselves. If they release the June '91 show at Soldier Field I went to, I'd buy it. Or the pair of my last shows from June '92 at Knickerbocker. So I understand if everyone wants their 80s or 90s shows released. And there's a format for that: Dave's Picks.

I'm just sayin' that after all the '68 discoveries and the lack of a format for releasing them that releasing shows from the early years would be a great way to honor the band's founding and get those tapes out there now. Unfortunately, if TPTB decide to pad the early years with later years, then you've got a massive, unaffordable box. Why not just go for the first five years this time? Haven't we got enough '77 and '78?

Throw us greybeards a bone! I promise to at least try not to tell Dave to "get off my lawn."

And thanks to Obeah for using the classic term, "cashish."

Cheers, HF

....it links to other people's live streams. Very cool.

Worth seeing

A lot of layers

Bottom line is that Bob Dylan is one remarkable songwriter

I saw A Complete Unknown today, too. Good performances. Solid film. Worth seeing.

I'm glad this movie exists, because there are whole generations of people who love music who don't know about the enormous impact Dylan had. Personally, I think you can say that there was songwriting prior to Bob Dylan, and then there was songwriting after. Two different things entirely. And the film does capture some of the amazement and wonder people had hearing those songs for the first time.

I don't think the film adds much to what we know about Dylan. I am by no means a Dylanologist, but I was well familiar with all the stories and anecdotes that went into this film. Chances are you will be, too. But it's all presented in a way that's fun and entertaining, and yeah, there's whole generations of music lovers who don't know about any of this. So check it out if you've a notion. And bring the kids!

I suppose "my time" of going to Dead shows was like 1979-84, which is nobody's favorite era. And not mine, either, when it comes to the archival program. But if Dave's Picks has taught me anything, it's that there are really good shows in every era. So I kind of trust Dave to make good picks and work in some of those less popular years in that series.

But the box set for the 60th? I really hope it's not some 80 disc monstrosity. I agree with everybody who has said they'd like to see TPTB take this anniversary to issue whatever '60s stuff is left in the vault. I mean, those Ark shows have to come out someday, don't they?

Hey Crow,

I would have loved to see the Dead 79-84. I mean come on, who doesn't like 79, 80 and well 81 and 82? I love it.

Not sure the fantasy of late 60's will ever come true for you true believers.

I know my fantasy of the 1980 Warfield Radio City run ended when Dave revealed they recorded over the reels for Brent's solo stint.

Hang in there Hendrixfreak!

Oh and Dylan, yes, love the Hibbing Native and everything he did for music. Saw him twice, once with the Dead and Petty in 86.

The Dead of course were much better live, but they had a great time together and the they did an unbelievable job on the Dylan tunes throughout their career.

First off, I sincerely wish Dave well, his absence is concerning now. I pray it's not anything dire or detrimental.
Anyways,.... I just watched SNL. So there was Tim Chalamet hosting and doing some Dylan songs, apparently different ones from the movie during the show's musical segments. Deep cuts, a nice chunky '90s "grunge" style version of Outlaw Blues is on full display amongst other more obscure tunes.
Well, I haven't seen the movie yet and I realize the setting is during a small slice of Dylan's early career too, but knowing that, and it's time frame of 1964~'65 I must know if members of "The Band" are properly represented? Especially in leiu of Garth Hudson's recent passing. {R.I.P.} He was the last surviving member.
I certainly hope the movie producers did them fellas some justice, and not just making them 'composite' characters. I'm sure this film was well into production around the time of Robbie Robertson's passing so I am wondering if they name drop & credit individual members of The Band? Either in dialogue or in the end credits!

P.S.
Yeah! A box of 1960s songs for the 60th sounds about right, on all fronts, genres, and entundres. High Time to get them Banana Boxes outta the "walk in" {vault} and start baking some goodies! Chat us up Dave!