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Dicks Picks 12 Not even close. So fluid and unique. I can't think of any other version of a single song the band performed that surpasses all the other versions by such a wide margin.

It was a trick question.. I was just looking for a new, good one I had not listened to before. ..as for the best Eyes.. Louisville.

.... because you know it to be true. Holly Bowling is aces.

I really don't know what is going on in Utah that you are referring about. Utah isn't above federal law either. I don't think people should go to prison either (prison and jail are two different things) but at the same time I really don't feel too bad if someone does cuz laws are not that hard to follow they really aren't. I mean people say its not addictive or habit forming but theres a law saying its illegal and people still do. so if it isn't, then its kinda boiled down to this: I'm having a REALLY hard time following this particular law and I'm getting in trouble cuz of it so it needs to be taken out lol.

If you are not in favor of people going to jail, then you are arguing for decriminalization.. which basically means legalization. The alternatives involve jail time, one way or the other.

So true.. but my favorite Eyes just so happens to be the one she plays on this video. Brings back memories. Now back to the best China Rider. Certainly more fun than discussing going to jail.

No separation of church & state. The church is the state. one of us...one of us...one of us...

....my take on Utah is/was their beer laws. Used to be you couldn't serve beer in that state above 3.5 ABV or some nonsense like that. And you could only have one drink on your table at a time. Now they brew some pretty strong brews. Holly is always on my radar for a show here. Yet to happen. She does a really, really good Terrapin Suite too. Busted her Better Left Unsung CD just now. Yup. Still grate. She tickles some pretty sweet Phish ivory keys as well....ala Tahoe Tweezerhttps://youtu.be/zxBJBAFcmSY

....if anyone can show me a better one than '74 Providence, I'm all ears. Go on. Impress me. 420 smoking session will commence soon. I think I'll listen to some more King Crimson while I'm at it. Why knot?

- '76 is definitely awesome. Caught me by surprise when the Betty's came out. A much slower burn, but some great moments, especially if you don't look in the usual places....- weed - no shame in saying no. - edibles.... convenience and stealth factor is a plus, but the delayed onset and the slow arc of the buzz kinda drones on (especially compared to the usual initial head-rush and then slow taper). Edibles are a commitment. - YES the 6/26 DP12 China>Rider melts lead - insanely good. A personal fav of mine is 12/1/79. - GD Fillmore vinyl - great idea. These shows are among the most amazing recordings of the 20th century. 2/27 and 2/28 are two of the best shows ever recorded. And the other two are similarly brilliant and make for a solid4-how box.

....that 420 is the smallest number easily divisible by 1,2,3,4,5,6 and 7 but not easily divisible by 8th's? I know right? That's what I said....

no separation of church & state? that's bullshit. if they have no separation of church & State then their churches can start paying taxes. i'm sure it has everything to do with those polygamous cults.

Methinks VGuy's IQ went up several points since Vegas went legal. Not that he wasn't very smart before, just an observation.

....I've been through southern Utah. Pretty weird vibe I had while I was there. Just kept driving. Faster.

Utah outlawed porn too and fireworks

after watching some of that polygamy cult show on A & E, I would drive fast too vguy its creepy ass shit. I wouldn't feel safe there I would be pissing my pants if my car broke down in that area

....I'm better at math whilst high. I know right? That's what I said!....outlawing porn? Good luck with that Utes.

they did outlaw it. a store got raided for having "pornographic" materials

....good for them that Vegas is a relatively short jaunt if they need their "fix".

Avail as a 3CD set "Import" and it actually sounds pretty good.

I am very glad I live in Washington state. if I can buy all the guns and ammunition I want (with constitutional blessing) and I can buy all the alcohol I want and I can buy all the tobacco I want then I am glad I can buy all the cannabis I want and smoke all the cannabis I want.

5/10/80

I used quote marks for that cuz people say playboy is porn (it isn't....or at least not since I last checked)

Singapore definitely has porn illegalized

Hi All, I am diverting from the topic at hand just to mention that Deadbase 50 is on sale at Amazon. There is a promo code to enter after you set up purchase- 50DEAD420. The code is for half off, so it comes out to $45, plus shipping. I think this is a great deal. This sale is is running from 4/19 through 4/21. I just came across it today and I put my order in. I thought I would pass it off to all of you since it was being discussed a few pages ago. I have been wanting to get this for a while, and I wanted share with all of you in case anybody else was in the market for it as well.

What about Gainesville?

.... Gainesville this, Gainesville that. Where's the Baked Alaska box? Hmmmm? Where's that? ;)....the 5.10.80 China -> Rider is pretty strong. Good call stolzfus. In fact, that entire second set looks tasty. No offense King Crimson. Squirrel!!

I agree that the China > Rider for 6/26/74 (DP 12) is up there, especially because it starts off with a jam first then goes into the China Cat. I have also thought that the China > Rider from Veneta (8/27/72) was pretty incendiary (yay! Almost Famous reference!) and it served in many ways in my opinion as the launching point for that show. Another one I find to be pretty good is the version on The Grateful Dead Movie (10/17/74). It might be that the video aids to it for me, but that one comes off really well. Also the version from 5/6/80 which is Road Trips V.3 N.4. from my Alma Mater is another good one. First time I heard that was back in the tape trading days where I got an audience tape of that show. The audience tapes as well matrix mixes can add a different perspective on the show. I know many of you have commented on that before. On the tape I had, it was very easy to hear the interplay between the band and the crowd. I distinctly remember the crowd being very heightened and as Rider was peaking. After all the lyrics had been delivered, the band really rides the crowds excitement and pushed the crescendo both longer and louder. I don't own the Road Trips release of this show, which represents another one I should not have passed on, but given that I have not heard this in a long while. I will likely wait to until Real Gone reissues it as they are working their way backwards with the RTs, but I might need to visit the Archive to listen to the audience source soon.

5.10.80 Hartford Civic Centersecond set . China Cat Sunflower -> I Know You Rider Feel Like A Stranger -> Comes A Time -> Estimated Prophet -> He's Gone -> Uncle John's Band -> Drumz -> Not Fade Away -> Sugar Magnolia . Alabama Getaway -> One More Saturday Knight . Look at all those beautiful ->'s. stolzfus. You are da man! The Jim Wise recording I'm listening to features several firework explosions. A good one occurs in the middle of Comes A Time. Hard to beat a sweet aud. That Times -> Estimated segue was nice.

This is easily if not best china cat/I know you riders in existence. They picked the delicate intro to perfection and this version out of all others was used for the final selection of Europe 72. Jim

DP12 is also my no-brainer favorite but I also love DP10 (12/29/77) - it’s a powerful version, maybe because they hadn’t played it in a long time. Check out the “cool Colorado rain” part... makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck every time.

Catching up.5-10-80 China->Rider. I've only got the second set but boy-oh-boy is it a doozey. Got mine from the good ole CAFE'. It's there if you're inclined. Get some :o) ...Europe '72 China->Rider is still my favorite.

Got the box here in my local record store in germany for around 55€, quite a fair price Cheers and happy weekend

The ones I can remember off the top of my head as being particularly great are also 26th June 1974 and 27th August 1972. Especially the film of the 1972 one at Veneta, which is probably my favourite film clip of the band. That or the Johnny B. Goode encore at Winterland New Years 1978. Generally, I like the 1972-1974 versions. (I'm back on China-Rider). The show I am listening to at the moment, Frankfurt 26th April 1972 features a good version. In fact it features a good version of everything played. The show is renowned for great versions of The Other One and Lovelight-but the whole show sparkles. Every time I play a show from this tour, especially after a break of a week or two, it seems like the best show of the run.

It seems a bit pricey to me. There is only one store that has a copy near me, as far as I know, and that is about 40 odd miles away. I phoned up the shop this morning, and the girl I spoke to told me they only had the one. She said people had been queuing up outside since 4.00am this morning, and by the time I go there it would probably be gone. So I stayed home! I' be looking on ebay and Amazon now.

Favorites: 5/3/72 2/28/73 3/23/74 6/26/74 12/1/79 7/17/89 4/1/90

12/29/77

Infant10/31/69 San Jose 12/31/69 Boston Tea Party 2/14/70 FE, NY 5/14/70 Merrimack, MO Adolescence 5/24/72 London 5/3/72 Paris 8/27/72 Veneta Teenager - really any from 73 through 74 6/26/74 Providence 6/22/73 PNE 2/9/73 Palo Alto 5/17/74 PNE 11/11/73 Winterland 10/20/74 Winterland Prom 12/29/77 Workingmans, paying the bills. 8/7/82 Alpine 10/10/82 Frost 6/15/85 Greek 10/18/89 Spectrum 6/17/89 Alpine (checking out 5/10/80 now, thanks all) Touch of Grey, Senior Years 6/16/90 Mountain View 9/20/90 MSG 4/1/90 Omni I think I left off a few 'musts'. Oh well.. it's nice out, I'm heading outside.. music in hand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Uu57h7H18 Got it streaming on the big screen and rattling the hard woods... Edit: 46 years, dang SimonRob, your starting to get old my man. BICKERSHAW

ah... oft overlooked. VGuy reminded me last year to put this in rotation, and I did. It's on my favorite waterproof shuffle, which means it gets steady rotation during watersport activities. The whole show is simply classic.. a bright, quality China Rider, one of the best Lovelights of the tour (Lovelight > GDTRFB is stupendous), the only DS>TOO of the tour. What a show.. a 99.9 of 100 and a desert island must have. In fact.. I am grabbing the device that has this show on it, so it's getting hit in about an hour. A tip of the hat to SimonRob.

Love the May 1980's, they are loose and slinky, and on fire! The growth of Stranger is intense. Weird, as I get older, and where I live, I do truly Feel Like a Stranger. Sojourn on my friends!

But glue is still legal. Weed should be legal just as alcohol, nicotine, and caffeine are. Some people are more prone to addictive personalities (and some choose gambling, skydiving, extreme sports, sex, etc to get their rush rather than substances) which is why it is necessary to have programs in place to help them overcome their addiction. But there are also many people who can use weed without moving on to crack, heroin, meth, etc. Those people shouldn’t be penalized because there are other people who couldn’t control themselves. (Just getting caught up on the posts, been a little busy lately) Got to run, found a record store that is holding a FW vinyl for me......

As north-west Europe currently basks in record-breaking temperatures (up to 29 C / 84 F) it is hard to believe just how cold it was at Bickershaw 46 years ago. Global warming? Jus' kiddin'. At least by the last day the weather had relented, even if it remained horribly cold. A fine selection performed that day: Brinsley Schwartz, Country Joe McDonald, The New Riders and our heroes. Check out Brinsley Schwartz if you have never heard their music. Mr. Schwartz himself and Bob Andrews subsequently became members of Graham Parker's excellent Rumour while Nick Lowe went on to solo success. As always at large gatherings, Country Joe's Fish Cheer got the crowd going. The sunny California sounds of the New Riders would have been better in Californian temperatures, but nothing could stop the Dead producing a top-notch performance for many hours, but it seemed to be over far too soon. A memorable day indeed.

Took me a while and I did not check all numbers...but divisible by 8ths, too funny! We be connected, so the days of crazy 8ths is long gone. Speaking of which I got to try shatter a few weeks back. One toke over the line indeed. I told my buddy a few days later, I thought I was going to have to call the ambOlence. He had something called a nectar collector. First time I had seen that contraption, just wow. Smoking Crater indeed. https://www.ebay.com/i/273127230622?chn=ps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj96Tau44OA

does it exist in the vault? if it does, release it after 6/10/73 and 11/19/72.

check your pm...

I don't own a turntable, but I went down and picked up a copy anyway. The guy recommended Jeff Buckley. Anybody ever heard his stuff?

Jeff was Tim Buckley’s son. I’d recommend Tim over Jeff, as he had a much broader, more diverse and interesting catalogue:Studio albums Tim Buckley (1966) Goodbye and Hello (1967) Happy Sad (1969) Blue Afternoon (1969) Lorca (1970) Starsailor (1970) Greetings from L.A. (1972) Sefronia (1973) Look at the Fool (1974) Live albums Dream Letter: Live in London 1968 (1990) Peel Sessions (1991) Live at the Troubadour 1969 (1994) Honeyman: Live 1973 (1995) Once I Was (1999) Copenhagen Tapes (2000) Live at the Folklore Center 1967 (Tompkins Square, 2009)

All the E72 DarkStars are unique of course. Bickershaw just SOUNDS outdoors and muddy and extra loosey goosey. Maybe that Star-Other One has the most free "space" of any E72 show?! Sweet stuff.