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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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July 15, 2019 - 4:51pm

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wissinomingdeadhead

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11/25/79
July 15, 2019 - 1:20pm

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hendrixfreak

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The world is upside down!

"80sFan" calling for '79?? (Me too! Or maybe that phrase is too freighted with meaning to use casually?)

JimInMD outs himself as "The Whistler"? Why, he's at every freakin' show! (Obviously, an insidious new anti-superhero and newly emerged Batman nemesis named "The Whistler." )

And I'm sitting here with 21 hours to go to the DaP 31 announcement (of a '79 show, you go 80sFan) counting how many unreleased shows the band played in Sept-October 1972.

The answer is 21.

The fact that DLI/DL II put some of the 9-3-72 Boulder show on DiP 36 (9-21-72) probably means that some tapes and some performances from this period are unworthy of release for one reason or another. Call it 25%. That leaves a nice stash of ~15 releasable Sept-Oct shows. Putting out five of 'em leaves plenty in inventory, plus the seven unreleased shows in November and five shows in December.

So the upcoming box of fall '72 (oh DL, hear my plea!!) leaves DL with nearly two dozen late 1972 shows to release over the coming years.

Anyone know if 1-2-72 and 3-5-72 are in the vault?

Note: this is a nearly fact-free post, written to relieve pre-DaP 31 announcement anxiety... will the selection support or refute my weak theory that the 3rd release in the series is often not a significant show?

It's Stormy Monday, so back to work.
July 15, 2019 - 12:47pm

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wissinomingdeadhead

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I'm hoping & I mean HOPING for 12/1/79 but my FINAL guess is.........................
July 15, 2019 - 12:17pm

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JimInMD

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Re: Sitting in Limbo

Ok Dennis, I will quit whistling during shows.. :D

I had the same thing happen to me at a Phil show in NY in 2007.. I think this guy did serious damage to my ears that night and you can hear it prominently on the soundboard.

My favorite was going to a show with my main show buddy who had just torn his Achilles tendon, so he's on crutches.. and this young, quite drunk woman sitting next to him stands up on her chair during Friend of the Devil (apparently she knew that one) and proceeded to attempt to sing, in a blood curdling, off key banshee wail the twelve or thirteen words she knew in between falling several times on my buddy who had just been released from surgery using his crutches to help keep her in balance.

So I get what you are saying.

Not to self, no more whistling.
July 15, 2019 - 11:39am

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stoltzfus

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Guessing game

Daves...all apiine 89

Box greek
July 15, 2019 - 11:00am

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daverock

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Police Chief "Crazy" Ed Davis-Nappyrags

Whoever he was..he was right. Rock n' roll WAS a serious threat. Changed the world. For which I am eternally grateful.
July 15, 2019 - 10:00am

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JackstrawJay

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Guessing games continue. …

Guessing games continue.

April 1969 box: 4/6, 4/21, 4/22, 4/23

as for DaP 31? Hmmm....11.1.79 or 6/16/85 Greek.
July 15, 2019 - 9:56am

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Dennis

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Englishtown and assholes

I've typed this before, but my wife was at Englishtown. Very close to where we lived, in fact kids that lived right around the racetrack went to my high school. Only thing she remembers is parking "somewhere", walking a "distance". She was really fucked up as she tells it. After the show, got back to where car was and it was towed away! Had to call her father to come get them!

I think my wife has been to about 5 official release shows.

Sidenote, sidebitch(?)

So I sorting thru a load of JGB shows, I have multiple copies of the same shows, so this means listening to snippets of each show to determine which has the best sound and saving only that show. I hit upon a nice Sitting in Limbo and I'm listening to a quiet passage. And don't you just hate the assholes who have to whistle at the top of their lungs, like that's gonna drive Garcia to new unexplored higher heights of music ambrosia. Three different recordings from 3 different places and you can still hear this asshole whistling relentlessly thru the whole quiet part!!! Okay, not as bad as a talker,,,but……..
July 15, 2019 - 9:55am

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estimated-eyes

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Ladies and Gentlemen

The Ladies and Gentlemen release is the one that got me back. After Jerry died, I took a bit of a hiatus from the Good Old Grateful Dead. While they were still in the rotation and I still got the mailings with news and release information (remember when they did those), I was on a blues kick from 1996 to 2000-- lots of Buddy Guy, Luther Allison, John Lee Hooker, Albert King, Junior Wells, Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf.... In fact, the furthest I ever traveled to see a musician was from Michigan to the 1999 Chesapeake Bay Blues Festival to see John Lee Hooker, who rarely ventured east of California in his later years.

I bought some of the Dick's Picks, but not all of them. And then they released Ladies and Gentlemen-- and the GD put their claws back into my skull. There are soooo many standout performances on that release and sound is perfect. Keithfan, you forgot to add Good Lovin' to your list of top 3 performances. That one is my absolute very favorite-- Pig's rap cracks me up and Jerry is just shreddin' behind him.

What I liked best about it was how accessible it was to non-Dead Heads. I was single for five years after it came out and had a group of friends I partied with-- none of them Dead Heads. Ladies and Gentlemen was the GD cd that I turned to and they all 'got it.' I couldn't play a deep Dark Star for them, but I could put that in and we would all be happy. Just great rock and roll music with jams that left my friends amazed that it was the Grateful Dead putting out such jams.

I rotate the music on my phone a couple times a year, Ladies and Gentlemen is always on it.
July 15, 2019 - 8:36am

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ty627

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It’s like Christmas but 4 times a year...

It seems I get more excited about a Dave’s release than just about anything else these days. Probably need to get out more.

Final Guess (and it’s a smoker!) 8-10-82 Univ of Iowa

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Next Box Set

The next box set will be announced next Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at approximately 1:00PM EST. The box set will contain the 6 shows played at The Capitol Theater in February 1971 or maybe every show played at The Capitol Theater.

Schwing indeed!!....

....if true. Three From The Vault is already an official release of one of that run, so I'm skeptical.

Liberace ??

How about a box that's got all the different piano & keys players representing all the band configurations through the years?
Pig, TC, Keith, Brent, Vinnie & Bruce.
That would be something...

Capitol box would be a capital idea!

Would love that! So many debuts, the ESP experiment and the Dark Star> Wharf Rat (debut)> Beautiful Jam> Dark Star would be on the 3 cd compilation for sure. Amazing that they only ever did Wharf Rat in the middle of Dark Star once. One of my bands does Wharf Rat quite a bit, and it's hard to avoid doing Dark Star teases in it. I've even labeled some of them Wharf Star jams as we'll go back and forth. We also like to throw The Other One jams into Wharf Rat at the bridge when it crashes into E, or other songs in E scales, like Phish's Carini, but I digress... I'm not expecting the Capitol Box this time around, but they have to at some point since the Bettys came back, and they were among the most sought after. If they indeed do announce it, I'll definitely be on board. It would be odd to release the already released show as part of it. If they did, I would hope it would sort of be a buy 6 get one free type deal to keep it the same price range as the PacNW box, which was $50 more than July '78's 5 shows.

Liberace is the key word....

....and I'm sticking to it. Dude was the showman of showmen. I have a couple of aunts that approve. And one uncle. Eating flaming hot Cheetos as I type this....phone getting orange. Gonna go there.... Liberace was gay. Flaming is a term for gay. 🤔 that one out.

So many Box Set possibilities

Really, where to start....

That’s why we need more than one per year.

Mini-Boxes: Pigpen/TC, Keith, Brent, Vince/Bruce.

That way people can choose their era, and for those whose era spans 65-95, they really score.

Piano men

Did Liberace ever play with Elton?

Elton and Billy Joel did a tour in the early 90’s.

Still in on the vinyl

Moved to the second hockey game (muted), now spinning 5-19-74 vinyl.

Vinyl sounds awesome with the volume turned up.
Starting to think that the return of vinyl in 180g form was a good idea by those people who keep coming up with ways to get me to send them money.

Liberace

Little known fact.. In his later years, he covered a mean version of Day Job.

This Cone Kid from Georgia gets IT....

....mute the hockey. Play Dead. Sometimes they get together. Go Aves!!

Name the Movie

"Are anyone of you Homosexuals......Like Flaming......No but we are willing to try"

Sorry VGUY I couldn't resist everytime I here that word I think of this very famous 1981 (big Hint) Movie

Any takers

Never Convicted

Stripes?

Ha Ha Never Convicted...

Ding Ding Ding you are correct sir.....Give that man a Cigar ( Quote from another classic 1982 movie) Did not mean that it just came out..

KeithFan after I wrote that I saw your Stripes quote....."A foot without a big toe" LOL....

I wanna party with you Cowboy.....

Stripes....

....John Candy. "is there a good movie on this flight?" Yessir. Early 80's is my wheelhouse.

Lighten Up Francis

Don't call me Francis. And don't none of you homos touch my stuff. Or I will kill ya.

Early 80’s movies

The only pre-1998 movie I have on DVD ( I have Big Lebowski, 1998) is Strange Brew.
Pure Genius!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strange_Brew

poker

I'm Cruz when it comes to playing 5 card Bolo...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWLoJczwNrE

...but I'm gettin' the hang of it.
:O)

Strange Brew....

....hoser. The present time is most acceptable.

Nice Segway into this....

.... savoring the '67 Boxilla gig. I love Alligator. This take pulls Jerry and Phil into the ether. Don't look at me! It's not my fault....

Clues?

The title to Bolo's post is reminiscent of some of the opening lines of the song In the Beginning by the Moody Blues from their 1969 album Threshold of a Dream. Another clue for a 1969 show, or was he just paraphrasing Descartes?

Fugazi always meant fake when I heard it used and that seems consistent with the context in which Bolo used the word.

Bolo's reference to the captcha thingy showing stages of his life - does this mean shows spread over different years or decades, or is it just a fugazi clue?

Chrono-synclastic infundibulum? Gotta say never heard of this before and had to look it up to see what it meant. As I understand it now a person who has entered a chrono-synclastic infundibulum exists at multiple points and lines in space time. I like ShaggyFraggle's thoughts on this and his pointing out that it is from a Kurt Vonnegut's book Sirens of Titan. So are we getting shows from different points in space and time throughout the dead's career? Or did Bolo just want use the phrase chrono-synclastic infundibulum in a post?

So many questions...

Joking Aside

We will be getting a box announcement soon.. It's not going to be 73/74, thinking earlier. Ark or the Capitol?

Kesey's Thunder Machine

McArthur Court, August 16, 1981, Eugene Oregon, Grateful Dead with Ken Kesey, Zane Kesey, Ken Babbs and the Thunder Machine.
Hmmm...
Looks like Kesey and his Thunder Machine also made an appearance at some other shows as well, including maybe 6/25/78 Eugene, Oregon, 5/8/84 Silva Hall, Eugene, Oregon and 6/23/90 Eugene, Oregon. I think I see a pattern here.
Making me think maybe it will be a series of shows from Eugene, Oregon with appearances by the Thunder Machine.

High Time for a box....

....'cause, you know, that's how it works.
8.16.81 is fine. Gotta give kudos to a Stranger 2nd set opener. Right?
edit.... Scarlet is fast. Fasten your seatbelts.

Thunder Machine Shows

After checking to see at which shows Kesey's Thunder Machine made an appearance, and all of the ones that I was able to find looked pretty hot based on the comments that I found with the shows. Looks like the Thunder Machine also made an appearance at the closing of Winterland show on 12/31/78, but that has already been released. If that is what the box will be, a series of shows with the Thunder Machine, I'll be a happy camper, and if not I am guessing whatever it is will make me smile.

*Re/ Listen’n

...a grateful morning to all my brothers and sisters in Dead Land...drinking my coffee with the Grateful Dead Road Trips Vol. 4 Number 1
“Big Rock Pow Wow” May 23rd-24th 1969!!! Playing in the background while I prepare myself for another day of love, laughter and joy! Everyone enjoy your parcels today of Daves Picks #30 / Plus this years Bonus Disc!
Sit back and get transported to a time long long ago in a galaxy far far away thru the space continueum transporter... peace be with all. Smile Smile Smile my friends, guaranteed to make you feel better than good; great! Lol ha ha . Take care and Rock On! 🙏❤️😎

Shipping notice received

weekend plans confirmed. Although I will have to mix it up with some of the New Orleans Jazz Festival broadcasts on WWOZ.

I gotta say the Bolo clue sleuthing seems really on point. If the box doesn't turn out to be a collection of shows from different eras; then he has to admit he's just f*ing with us :)

Bolo's Clues/It's all Greek to me

"My trip back here to this site has been long and strange. Hmmm...that sounds oddly familiar. I was trapped in a chrono-synclastic infundibulum a couple parsecs from Earth for what seemed like a decade, and only made it back here by the grace of God and my life-sustaining supply of flamin' hot Cheetos®".

I'm going with a box of Greek shows. One from each run of shows for the entire 1980's decade.

There is no pain so great as the memory of joy in present grief

Yo!! Rockers!!!!

It has been a year since I had my stroke. To all those who sent thoughts & prayers, good kharma, and general encouragement, I am eternally grateful. I am feeling fine, doing well, life is good!!!

In honor of this auspicious occasion, anybody who needs/wants any 71s, you know where to find me...………

Rock on!!!!!

Doc

*Re/ Doc :)

...hello Doc, grateful to hear your doing well! Your always in my prayers...god bless and peace be with you my friend. 🙏❤️😎
Really happy to see you drop in today!

Greek...

if there are Greek shows on the way...

:)))

to buy, or not to buy? that is the question.

got a "few" discs here at home, plus a change of abode coming up, plus other expenses.

just gotta wait and see. "now let's go wait and see, wait and see, wait and see....."

here's a raise of the proverbial glass to Peter Mayhew

claim to fame: Chewbacca actor.

RRRRRRRRR!!!!

it was funny at the time: my kids (as teens) and I used to joke that Wookies sound like they do because they are wasted drunk.

Chewie forever; thank you PM.

Welcome back Doc!

What did you think of DaP 26? I'm sure you had 12/14/71, but nobody had the SBD of 11/17/71 and just curious, in your 71 expertise, where did that improved sound land that one in your books? Glad to hear you're well!

May everybody get their 1970 fix today!

*Re/ 2019 Bonus Disc

*Bonus Disc: January 3rd 1970
Cold Rain and Snow, Alligator >, Drums >, Alligator >, Feedback, Casey Jones, Mason's Children, That's It For The Other One >, Cosmic Charlie, Uncle John's Band.

...I might of wrote it down wrong, I’ll check when I get back home. Driving home from the doctors. 🙏

Bonus disc

Well, my guess was off, surprised the UJB> Black Peter segue is cut (Dave seems to love Black Peter) and at the cut of Cumberland and especially Dire Wolf given the cover art, but no complaints. Didn't realize CR&S was public domain, but I love any disc that opens with that.

2 weeks ago I predicted:
Only clue given was Alligator, and they very wisely used the key covers as filler on disc 2, and the rule about originals or public domain leads me to think the bonus disc will look thus:
Cumberland Blues, Alligator> Drums> Alligator> (Caution Jam tracked?) Feedback, Mason's Children, That's It For The Other One> Cosmic Charlie, Uncle John's Band> Black Peter, Dire Wolf

What can Brown do for you?

#952 has landed in N.Y.C. via UPS just one minute ago! Wow! Usually we are late in receiving a Dave's compared to the rest of the country but not this time. What a complete surprise. Having said, and to our European friends, my heart goes out to you for those long waits and #$%^& damned tax/postal fee collectors who 'Shake You Down' for extra money to get a cd in the mail. I got lucky this time.

It looks beautiful on an unseasonably cold May 3rd. Smiling on a Cloudy Day!?!

I don't usually complain, but...

Two things here:
1 - The confirmed ship date for DaP30 was April 26th. Now we hear that Dead.net / Rhino is moving to a different warehouse and shipments will be delayed!! Why was this move not done on Feb. 2, right after DaP29 went out? C'mon Doc! We are dying out here! 3 months was bad enough. This is just insult to injury!
2 - Most of us call for "complete" shows. While DaP30 may include the complete show from Jan. 2, looking at my Deadbase it appears that this release has completely reconfigured the set list of the show and they have changed the flow. Not cool. It may be complete, but it is not the way the boys offered it up that night.

Rock on

So glad you made it....

It’s friday, the snows gone for now, it’s a bright sunny Friday in the high country, new Dead showing up everywhere, Bolos got this place jumpin’ , new box on the horizon, and if that ain’t Enough,, WELCOME BACK DOC!

Edit: oh yea, and the AVs came to play last night too!

DaP 30

Doesn't look like I'm getting it until next week which is fine since I do a lot of quality listening driving to/from work...

Doc - very happy to see you here. Every time I think of April 71, I think of all the great shows you have sent my way over the years. Glad you are well!

and of course, keeping with tradition, now that the release is starting to hit everyone's mailbox it's time to guess the next one. I say Dec 79!

Song Order Changed

They have done this before.. I think someone, perhaps KeithFan?? has a handle on re-ordering them using some software package.

Agree it's not ideal, but first world problems. I am more interested in getting the music. Got my shipping order last night, the arrival date is not yet in the system. 1970, what a pivotal year.. Bring it! I think one day we will get 9/19 and 9/20.

They left Cumberland off the bonus disc?....

....that's just great. i don't want it anymore.

No Cumberland

Travesty. :-D

Hey Now Doc

Grate to hear from you Doc and glad to hear you are doing well. I will have to scan the 71 catalogue for gaps...are there any recent upgrades from 71 that you are aware of?

Bolo...glad to see you are back from your interstellar galactic travels and as cryptic as ever. Maybe you could at least tell us where to find one of those chrono synclastic infundibulum things you’ve been riding around in/on. I spent the whole morning searching Amazon, eBay and Craigslist...cant even find a used one...WTF?!?!

Anyways, finally got my shipping notice today and was saddened to learn that without the infundibulum thing, I will probably have to wait until tomorrow for my subscription copy of Daves 30...I have stalled out on Europe 72 for now. Stuck back on 04/26...but I did give a listen last night to 04/27/85 that Sixtus called out the other day...fun show with lots of 80s energy, and a cool setlist. Also busted out 05/05/77 New Haven...love the Sugaree in this one, but the highlight for me is Peggy-O...Phil’s base seems to be especially Grate in this one as well.

Peace all...please play it loud today...maybe I’ll catch a tune!

KCJ

Edit: Bonus Disc problems. I was hoping for the Morning Dew, but not surprised. Am surprised about possible reordering?....seems odd
Double edit: never mind on the Dew...found it...track listing on my phone has it in the same line as The Monkey and the Engineer so I missed it...:

Daves 31 guess: would love some 79...think it’s been a while? would also like to see some 82 or 85. Also think we are due for something from the 90s.

The Doctor is in the house

&-Elvis Presley has left the Auditorium

Anniversary of one of the first tapes I ever got....

https://archive.org/details/gd1987-05-03.sbd.walker-scotton.miller.8373…
....Little Bunny Foo Foo all day long!! That little dittie brings back some memories.

On this day in dead history

As we wait for these Fillmore shows...

The 30 trips 1986 show is from this date at the Cal Expo center. I love the eclectic set-list on this one.

And check out 5-3-87 at the Frost: https://archive.org/details/gd87-05-03.sbd.hinko.18848.sbeok.shnf/gd198…

The soundboard is really clear and there are a couple cool moments in the first set. Brent preforms a rousing version of Little Bunny Foo Foo as Bob is plagued by technical issues. looking forward to jamming the second set at work and hoping Dave's 30 hits the mailbox this weekend.

DaP 30

Blimely that was quick!

I have received mine in the UK today. It usually takes at least a couple of weeks to arrive here.

chrono synclastic infundibulum shipping services

Thats how a DaP30 got to the UK so fast.

My shipping notice didn’t have a tracking number, but UPS sent me an email saying that I have a package coming tomorrow.

Song reordering?
Same thing a year ago. Took me quite a while to undo the damage. It’s not as simple as reordering the songs on the computer because, at least on last year’s release, tuning for the next song was appended to the end of the previous track, and so has to be edited. Very annoying.
Hope they didn’t screw that up again this year.

What’s up Doc?
Glad you’re doing well.

@European DHeads

Great news for you that you got the latest installment in the Dave's series so quickly. I would have to agree with the "leave the setlist flow as originally played alone" criticism. That is as they say: A No Brainer.

re: Chewie

Stoltzy - I'm here with you my man. Pouring one out for Ole' Chewbacca - RIP Peter Mayhew.

Heya Doc. Glad to see you are good.

I am happy with the Bonus disc, but I am feeling VGuy's displeasure for No Cumberland....pouring one out for you too, homey.

Sixtus

Reordering songs

I hear you icecreamkid on the DaP 26 bonus reordering, I normally would have edited out all the tuning and teases, but just stuck ordering it correctly and trying to ignore when that Tennessee Jed tease goes somewhere else (I think that was the most prominent one) but I honestly don't listen to the 12/14 part of that Pick as much. Not because of that, but because the 11/17 portion is sooooooo much better to me, and the setlists are so very similar, so I can't get myself to listen to those back to back again like I did when it first arrived, and I usually listen to 11/17 then move on to another era. Since I mainly listen on a USB drive in the car, I'll reorder 1/2 and 1/3 accordingly, but I may take the time to do those edits this time around, because I think this one will get more consistent play of both shows. Or all 4 shows, however you wanna look at it.

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