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    Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye! Gentle mistresses and most distinguished gentlemen, we have come upon the release of the DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37, from the Fifteenth of April in the year Nineteen Seventy-Eight, at ye olde College Of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia. Cast your waistcoats and your bonnets aside, the Grateful Dead are on steady gallop from the opening high-kick of "Mississippi Half-Step" into a where are we going? where have we been? "Passenger," followed by full-on versions of "Friend Of The Devil," "El Paso," "Brown-Eyed Women," and a double-barreled "Let It Grow>Deal." Catch your breath and straighten out your tricorne because the 2nd set shows no bounds with delightful takes ("Bertha>Good Lovin'," "One More Saturday Night") and introspection ("Candyman," "Playing In The Band"). Then - great fifes and drums - it's 15 minutes of "Rhythm Devils," with band and crew gathered round to amplify the merriment before delivering a rare incantation of "Not Fade Away>Morning Dew" that sets the soul alight. Pure jollification!

    The town crier's addendum:

    Three bags full! Lest you feel 4/15/78 beginneth and endeth too quickly, we've selected highlights from Civic Arena, Pittsburgh, PA, 4/18/78 to satisfy your fancy.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37: WILLIAMSBURG, VIRGINIA 4/15/78 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. It is guaranteed to sell out - often within hours.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Gary Farseer
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    I still have your original write up as a file on an older computer. I also think One Man did some extensive work/documentation on E72 and other tours.

    But all of this is heady stuff to me, just hard to keep up with this old brain...and I think I remember DHB's beer documentary.

  • Oroborous
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    Didn’t Deadhead brewer do a deep dive a couple years ago?
    Or maybe I’m thinking of Sixtus?
    I know DHB did listening with specially pared beers...

  • daverock
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    Sixtus - good post. I seem to have missed your posts on this year in the past - so apologies for that. You clearly have a lot to offer yourself in terms of write ups for 1972.

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    Just got my shipping notice, hopefully everyone else who pre-ordered will get their tracking # before the end of today. Thank you also to Sixtus for that wonderful E72 Dark Star write up. I hope everyone here has a fantastic day :) much love ✌️

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    I know I am not up to the task.. it took me a couple months to get through my first listen all those years ago. I think I'd still be on it if I took notes, rewinding.. taking copious notes, editing down the notes, reslistening then tossing my notes and starting over..

    I do like this writeup from the Internet Archive on the topic. There is a write-up for each show that is pretty close to my impression. I believe it was done before the box came out, so some of the recordings used were not nearly so stellar. Some good light GD listening.

    https://archive.org/post/304297/europe-72-notebook

    Funny.. I took a brief pause from my 71 stream of consciousness yesterday and picked up Lille France. What a great little show.. A+ in my book. Phil's comment is just about perfect, "it felt like he was playing in the midst of a French impressionist painting"

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    I concur. if there is anyone 'round here who purports a vast knowledge of the Europe 72 jaunt, it's KeithFan. It's quite an endeavor, and I know a bit from experience, as I had done this for each of the Dark Stars several years back as I awaited Boxzilla. Likely many have seen this before, but in the spirit of being a team player, I offer an encore sharing of these efforts while we now await word from KF on his uptake for the balance of the tour:

    Here goes....

    4/8/1972 - Wembly Empire Pool, London - 32 mins; intense/fast paced first leg up til about 10 mins then returns to DS theme for 1st verse; spacey post-verse til ~17 min, then pace picks up for a few minutes, followed by a brief meltdown; additional spaciness around 24 mins followed by another full meltdown; interesting groove established around 28 min that has hints of Sugar Mag (into which it segues, flawlessly). No second verse.

    4/14/1972 - Tivoli Concert Hall, Copenhagen, DK - 29 mins; loose first 10 mins not overly spacey; gets spacey around 11 mins; interesting groove establishes around 16 min to head into first verse w/interesting beat; heads off into intense nearly 7-minute jam inclusive of a very tight and fast Feelin Groovy jam; final 3 minutes are a meltdown. No second verse.

    4/17/1972 - Tivoli Concert Hall, Copenhagen, DK - 31 mins; spacey opening to about 7:30 when first DS theme emerges leading to 1st verse at 9:45. Spacey post-2nd verse tries to take off but melts further around 19 min; returns to a partial groove around 24:30 and closes out with spaceyness in the last 2 mins. No second verse.

    4/24/1972 - Rheinhalle, Dusseldorf, Germany - Split by Me & My Uncle; 26 mins 1st half, 14:30 second half. Spacey opening until about 8:45 where it coalesces and falls into first DS theme around 10:15 followed shortly by 1st verse with slow, sparse notes. Spacey feedback following verse until 15:45 and then picks up into an intense, fast paced jam for just under 2 minutes before it becomes dissonant again leading to major meltdown which eventually heads into Me & My Uncle with ease. Second half: spacey reintroduction persists until about 7 mins, where Keith leads-in with some piano phrasing and then the band follows into a tight fast paced jam where Jerry plays some lines back and forth as if in conversation with himself and then maintains an intense level effortlessly segueing into Wharf Rat. No second verse.

    4/29/1972 - Musikhalle, Hamburg, Denmark - 30 mins; spacey opening for ~5 mins, then enters a groove and Phil hints at the Feeling Groovy jam until it finally is joined by Jerry a minute later until about 8:00, then the floor drops out into space. DS theme appears at 14 min which leads to first verse. Spacey post-verse noodling leads to major meltdown, settling in at 22 mins with a fat, fast-paced Keith-led groove. Final 4 mins are spacey & lead to major melt #2, dropping into Sugar Mag as DS finally melts away. No second verse.

    5/4/1972 - Olympia Theatre, Paris - Split by drums; 19 mins 1st half; 17:34 2nd half. Spacey opening til about 6 mins when fast paced jam kicks in until 11:20, slowing down then resurrecting the DS theme into the first verse. 4 mins of space leads into drums. Second half post-drums is very spacey until 7 mins, then kicks into overdrive with a very high energy jam leading to a phenominal Feelin Groovy Jam for several minutes before settling into the second verse. DS dissipates into the Sugar Mag from E'72.

    5/7/1972 - Bickershaw Festival, Wigan, UK - 19:49 mins; decent, coherent jamming for the first several minutes that congeals nicely around 8 minutes. Bottom falls out around 10 mins and leads to some light noodling, cymbal fills and space. DS theme emerges at 14:23 and heads into 1st verse. Space fills the air through the remainder of the song until it totally breaks down into drums. No second verse.

    5/11/1972 - Rotterdam Civic Hall, Netherlands - Split by drums; 13:45 mins 1st half; 30:34 mins 2nd half; Opens with a light, airy jam that persists to congeal into a decent groove as it treads in and out of spacey phrasing. This settles into a mysterious sounding jam that grows with intensity without a return to the DS theme before dissolving into drums. Emerging from drums, Phil and Billy duel for 2 minutes before Jerry joins back in with some complimentary thoughts; the DS theme appears around 5 min followed by 1st verse. A few moments of spacey feedback give way to spacey noodling that devolves into a full blow chaotic meltdown, only to emerge around 19:30 into a very nice, fast paced groove that hints at Caution and PITB jams. This eventually dissolves and a light, sparse outro ends the song as it heads off into Sugar Mag. No second verse.

    5/18/1972 - Kongressaal, Muenchen, Denmark - 28:20 mins; almost 2 mins of noodling before opening notes from Phil; a loose jam ensues around the DS theme for the next several minutes and then decays. At ~9 min an interesting jam emerges, which eventually settles back into the DS theme and 1st verse around 14:30. The remainder of this DS is borderline chaos as it treads in and out of varying degrees of a meltdown until it settles into Morning Dew. No second verse.

    5/23/1972 - The Strand Lyceum, London - 30 mins; Spacey opening minutes lead to tight fast paced jam commencing around 3:30 for two minutes and then it settles into another spacey jam digressing to almost…nothing. Billy and Phil then have a small duel until ~13:30 when the rest of the band fills back into a delicate groove which grows to into a jam reminiscent of the post-Truckin' foray from E'72 until about 17 mins, when they drop into the DS theme and 1st verse. Ensuing is additional delicate spaciness that transgresses into a frenzied meltdown madness, and eventually settles into Morning Dew. No second verse.

    5/25/1972 - The Strand Lyceum, London - 34 mins, out of Wharf Rat. Strong opening with a groove almost from the beginning, no noodling around here in the first 7 minutes. Then turns very spacey until 15 mins when DS theme appears, and heads off into 1st verse. Post-verse finds a Billy, Phil, and Keith duel for several minutes. At 21 mins, Phil institutes a mellow Feeling Groovy jam, soon joined by the rest of the band until ~25 mins. Final minutes are dominated by space and then a monumental meltdown before heading off into Sugar Mag. No second verse.
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    Be Well People!
    Sixtus

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    Keithfan seems like the man.

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    50 years ago today…………

    April 29, 1971
    Fillmore East, New York City, New York

    Set 1: Truckin'-Bertha-It Hurts Me Too-Cumberland Blues>Me And My Uncle-Bird Song-Playing In The Band-Loser-Dark Hollow-Hard To Handle-Ripple-Me And Bobby McGee-Casey Jones

    Set 2: Morning Dew-Minglewood Blues-Sugar Magnolia-Black Peter-Beat It On Down The Line-Second That Emotion-Alligator>drums>jam>Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad>Cold Rain And Snow-China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider-Greatest Story Ever Told-Johnny B. Goode

    Encore: Uncle John's Band-Midnight Hour-And We Bid You Goodnight

    Don’t get me wrong, this is a very fine show, with more than its fair share of oddities and rarities. I enjoy the quirky goodness of any show that has a Dark Hollow and a Ripple, the Black Peter is wonderful, the Dew is powerful, and who doesn’t love an Alligator? And I sure do savor the CR&S coming out of GDTRFB, and the three song encore was the only time that happened all year.

    All that being said, almost without fail, this show was rated the best show of 1971 in Deadbase polls, which I never understood. Solid show—absolutely. Great last Fillmore East show by the Dead---you bet. Even so, maybe a teeny tiny microscopic step down from the previous night……………

    Rock on!!!

    Doc
    But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning……

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    Who’s going to write up 72?

    My vote would be Keith Fan. But it could also be a team effort. Anyway how about the liner notes to E72. Haven't they already been written up? teehee. H.A.D. waiting for this release. TMI?

    P.S. I'm not a robot.

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    The first disk smokes, especially LIG. It's very structured like a studio album but in a good way. If that is the right word.

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Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye! Gentle mistresses and most distinguished gentlemen, we have come upon the release of the DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37, from the Fifteenth of April in the year Nineteen Seventy-Eight, at ye olde College Of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia. Cast your waistcoats and your bonnets aside, the Grateful Dead are on steady gallop from the opening high-kick of "Mississippi Half-Step" into a where are we going? where have we been? "Passenger," followed by full-on versions of "Friend Of The Devil," "El Paso," "Brown-Eyed Women," and a double-barreled "Let It Grow>Deal." Catch your breath and straighten out your tricorne because the 2nd set shows no bounds with delightful takes ("Bertha>Good Lovin'," "One More Saturday Night") and introspection ("Candyman," "Playing In The Band"). Then - great fifes and drums - it's 15 minutes of "Rhythm Devils," with band and crew gathered round to amplify the merriment before delivering a rare incantation of "Not Fade Away>Morning Dew" that sets the soul alight. Pure jollification!

The town crier's addendum:

Three bags full! Lest you feel 4/15/78 beginneth and endeth too quickly, we've selected highlights from Civic Arena, Pittsburgh, PA, 4/18/78 to satisfy your fancy.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 37: WILLIAMSBURG, VIRGINIA 4/15/78 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. It is guaranteed to sell out - often within hours.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Dick 36,,,,, real gone :-(

Left a notify me if it comes available,,,,, ha ha ha

ebay has one,,,, sold 290

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Ive been staying on top of this release! I bought myself one copy! I am blown away by how quick that sold out! Unfortunately to a lot of scalpers im sure. I saw all these websites doing preorders before the actual company that was selling them were actually selling them, and also real gone music had it " sold out" at first glance but it had never been available, idk it all seems like marketing scams, i got myself a copy at listing price, but i had to be on it like a hawk!

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Real Gone did email about Dick's 26 when they found another batch, and I like their 2 per customer limit, and that probably some people did abuse that and will see their order refunded. Just hope you're quick to that email. I missed that second batch of DP26 because I was checking out while riding in the back of a car in the backwoods of Florida, and just as I hit submit (after inputting my CC number one time already and submitting), I lost signal and didn't regain it for several hours at which time I lost it to someone else. I hope you get an email soon, and are able to snag one.

Really love this show, and especially glad they included the massive Folsom Field filler. (The inclusion of which raises the question of whether a potential vinyl version of DP 13 would include the hidden Scarlet Fire from 11/1/79, and whether it would be hidden, because it's 35 minutes, an entire LP!)

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Anyone else not receive their order? I'm a yearly subscriber and never received the cd's. Tried contacting and haven't had any luck.

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I got the email around 1pm but didn’t actually see it until around 6pm.
That’s OK because I had decided that it wasn’t a must have but that I might buy it if it didn’t sell out immediately.

It should have been limit 1.
Clearly resellers cornered the market on this one.
2-28-69 vinyl is still available (I don’t know what the production number was), so we’ll see where the resale price for DP36 vinyl is in several months.
Demand may not be as great as the resellers think.

Also, if you do want vinyl, 6-17-91 is under $75 now.

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....I better pick some winning lottery numbers.
I still have all my vinyl from my 13-24 years old of being alive. There's a lot. I know me too well to dip my body in that again.
I want to visit Europe one day

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I was lucky enough to see Bunny and the Solomonic Reggaestra open for String Cheese Incident's first Red Rocks show in '99 I think. I love old Cheese and was overjoyed at being there for their backyard throwdown, but Bunny crushed it...

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And now, rockers, back to our regularly scheduled programming................

50 years ago today………………

March 3, 1971
Fillmore West, San Francisco, California

Set 1: Casey Jones-Hard To Handle-Playing In The Band-Loser-Me And Bobby McGee-Next Time You See Me-Beat It On Down The Line-Bertha

Set 2: Me And My Uncle-Truckin'>drums>The Other One>Wharf Rat-Sugar Magnolia-King Bee-Greatest Story Ever Told>Johnny B. Goode

Encore: Good Lovin'

The Dead opened and closed March with home town shows, one of which bordered on genius, while the other often fails to inspire. Let the listener decide which is which…….

Even a lesser light shines brightly on occasion, and this is no exception. There could be more grease, the Other One has its moments, and getting a Good Lovin’ encore is always nice. The original commonly circulating soundboard was sonically lacking, but the remasters released late last year are actually fairly listenable. And worth a listen they are, especially if you like the pared down, raw power of the quintet………….

Not a classic, and maybe not even “second tier”, but still…………….

Rock on!

Doc
Where we love is home - home that our feet may leave, but not our hearts……

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I'm hovering on this one-only due to the price. But when I think of all the money I've saved in the last year not going to gigs , and going out with friends - even buying newspapers, I think maybe I should treat myself. Again.

As to whether The Dead are best heard on vinyl or cd-that's down to all sorts of factors-not least of which is imagination. And there is nothing wrong with that. I seem play the vinyl I have bought in the last two years or so much, much more than the cds I have bought in the same time frame. Maybe because I have less of it - maybe its a throw back to the 70s. I actually like the fact that the music is separated into 15-20 minute sections per side.

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"But when I think of all the money I've saved in the last year not going to gigs , and going out with friends - even buying newspapers, I think maybe I should treat myself. Again."

There, in a nutshell, lies the rationalization by which I've gained the 2021 subscription, presumably the 2021 box (note: without knowing what it'll be), and selections from Dylan, Hendrix, the ABB, The Band.

Send me to the poor house, baby, but at least we rocked!

With nothing but time on my hands, I also have been looking for deals on music. I wish Real Gone Music would reproduce bonus discs too. Not since I lived at home, way back when, have I owned a turntable. I would not even know how to make a wise stereo/Hi Fi turntable system, despite reading an occasional article; but, would love to have one and start buying vinyl. Over the years these vinyl limited releases have come and gone and now reside on eBay for Highway Robbery prices. The phrase "Missed the Boat" comes to mind!

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/68 yahoo

/71 is, like Doc says, not the hottest show ever. But sometimes a piece of chewing gum is ok, even though you want an entire pizza.

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This suggests otherwise to me:

Side H
1. Mexicali Blues
2. Dark Star

Side I
1. Dark Star (cont.)

Side J
1. Morning Dew
2. Beat It On Down the Line

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Winterland October 1974: The Complete Recordings

Multi-track recordings from 74 - the need is real, the time is right!

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I think this show rocks...

I wold really love a piece of cake!

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DAVEROCK, I had to smile when you mentioned only getting 15-20 minutes per side of a vinyl L.P. I bought vinyl from 1965-2001 or so. But I started buying cds in the mid-'80's. When I finally made the (permanent) switch to cds only, I had about 4,000 L.P.'s and 2,000 45's. I can't believe that I used to get up EVERY 15-20 minutes to flip/change discs. Of course in the 70's I had a stackable turntable(so cool!!). And more than that, as a child, I had mostly 45's, so you're talking about flipping/changing discs every 3-4 minutes. It's hard to believe I did that. And of course, it was normal and therefore, did not seem like an inconvenience at all. I think maybe my one habit that would drive most of my music listening friends crazy is that for the last 10-15 years, I will play a cd ALL THE WAY through front to back. I'm not sure why, other than my OCD, but if the artist presents it like that, I assume they intended for me to hear it like that. My listening habits would drive most people crazy. But, that's the glory of, that's the story of, love(of music)!!

In case you haven't heard, Music is the Best!! Also, Bird is the Word.

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Not saying I'm gullible or anything..
Hendrixfreak - Dead right. My order is in, and my pockets are empty ( not quite). Much happier that way than if I'd looked and it had sold out.

Mr Ones...maybe that's why we were all so thin in the 70s, all that getting up and down changing records ! I like vinyl during the day, and cds at night/early morning, when I am more likely to drift off into the land of nod. Cd's for background, too. 3/14/90 has been playing while I made my meal, had it, and checked this site. Pretty good this second set sounds, too.

Maybe DaveRock is on to something- a mix of CDs and vinyl in your collection. The two biggest problems I have with vinyl is the cost - no chance you are going to lay out vinyl money to take a flyer on a band you may or may not like, just restrict purchases to Kind of Blue and American Beauty, etc, real desert island picks. The second one is sound, but that’s just me - I don’t have the George Martin/Brian Wilson ear for the nuance of sound, likely due to a life of concerts and music listening, but I always found the sound of CDs (on a decent system) to be great.

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Didn't set out to do this per se but got in a 74 mood and started with the February Winterland run where Jerry debuted the lick. He pulled it out on the first and second nights. That led to other selections from the year featuring the signature lick. The band ended the year as they started it with one on 10-20. All of the 74 Slipknot moments came in the midst of some serious jam material - you dig?

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Man, when I was married, briefly, 20 years ago, my wife wouldn't even go to a Red Rocks show. She referred to the music lovers as "those people."

Fast forward to the past 20 years and, for a while there, I was averaging about 8-10 major shows a year and a few bar and club bands each month. I also noticed that I had to get serious about CD storage...

And, gentlemen, here we are, making light of each other emptying our wallets to search for the sound. Kinda funny.

Vguy -- I'm probably "retired" from the big live shows because someday I'd like to "retire" for real! That said, I'll catch Tedeschi-Trucks at Red Rocks next time they play. In 2024, I'll have been going to Red Rocks for 50 years! So I gotta at least keep up that little habit. And, of course, banging the drum for further releases on this cult-like forum.

Just finished 6-19-76 while working out -- a great way to catch a full disc or so on an every-other-day basis. That early '76 jamming is almost slow-motion in a way, but supremely calculated at the same time.

It's a sunny day in Colorado and as of this Friday, I'm eligible for the vax.

"It's gotta get better in a little while..."

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Yes!

Was just listening to Winterland 2-22-74, the first show of the year. Love Jerry’s many Slipknot teases near the end of that tasty PITB.

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From a reliable source: "May 1977 - The Days Between" Includes: 5/2, 5/6, 5/10, 5/14 & 5/16

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Good call on 5-6. God the fat biking was nice here in WI today. Woo! Springfield '77 box it up with the Capitol! Oh yeah. :-)

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...if you believe it. Long live May '77 The Days Between! Toss up between 5-6 and 5-23-24 for me. That May '77 Dancin'>Frankin's>Comes a Time. Has to be heard to be believed...

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I am easily entertained.

First, that Mystery Science Theater 3000 clip is a gem. Hilarious. As for May 77, The Other, Other One I am stoked that we are getting a pristine box set from a wonderful year that somehow seems to not circulate. Way to go Dave, how did you manage to keep all this so secret. Can't wait for the seaside chat on this one.

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....and they hid them for so long because they were so good?
I'm slow sometimes.
Taking my tie-dyed foil hat off in 3,2....

The pistachio "story," I mean...

But not to worry! The inmates are rattling the cage for an announcement and even Bolo -- or someone with access to Bolo's account (!) -- has arisen from the covid fog to murmur sweet (totally) nothings.

I pray DL throws us a bone before we move on to the garbanzo bean jokes....

Does anyone ever wonder just how good Garcia would have been if he didn't have to push up his glasses just before they slipped off his face twice a minute.

I think he would have been Hendrix good, just sayin'

Rock on folks, be nice to one another.

Edit: Actually, I always thought he was Hendrix good.

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On the other hand, he might have channelled his energy into learning how to throw his guitar in the air, and sometimes catching it ! Maybe he was better as he was..

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Hendrix did what any savvy chitlin' circuit showman would do when he had the chance: show those white Brits a little under-the-radar soul spastics to get the room going. Then ... they expected it. And Jimi regretted that expectation when he had finally seized the spotlight and just wanted to stand there and play great guitar like ... Jerry or Roy Buchanan or Carlos Santana or ... etc.

That's what attracted me, or one of the things that attracted me, to the GD, Roy, et al. No showiness, just the music.

Gawd, all this posting and I feel like a snack. Let's see. Oh, maybe I'll have a few chili-encrusted pistachio nuts... NOT!

Just come out and blow our minds with music, not pyrotechnics.

Circles back to the discussion a few days ago about other acts having to grab the audience’s attention at the beginning.

I never paid attention to John Mayer before he joined D&C, but I wonder if it was an adjustment for him to come out on stage and just play. He did say before that he wasn’t used to not talking to the audience.

I have a bag of Sam’s Club pistachios, they’re pistachio flavor, not chili.
How about wasabi covered pistachios?

And where’s that Box Set announcement, Dave?

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I saw a funny home video of a racoon sneak up to a bowl near a front doors and eat a wasabi pea. Next the racoon was upright on its back legs while furiously brushing his jaw and mouth with both front paws as if to say ew, ew, no, no ,no!

Racoons, oh the irony, have a very Ninja like appearance too.

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Advice requested from seasoned CD orderers. I ordered this CD in late January and a few days later got an email saying congratulations, that my order had shipped, with an order number and a tracking number for UPS. But the tracking number they gave me never corresponded to anything in the UPS system. I emailed CS and they said sorry about that we will re-ship it and send a new tracking number. Then nothing. I tried following up, but nothing. I tried the priority email, and got a canned email saying they were too busy to give me a personalized response.

I'm just worried that if on their end their computer is saying that the order shipped and there is a tracking number to prove it, and there is nothing they can do about it. Covid, baby. And I'm looking at the tracking number that doesn't correspond to anything in the UPS system that this is a Mexican stand-off (can I say that?) that may never get resolved.

Is there any way to get a human that cares about this? any other ideas. If someone were to tell me I wouldn't get it for several months, but I would get it, that would be fine. Thank you for reading.

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This is an entertaining documentary:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=seattle+choir+movie&docid=60800865…
It's about a Central District choir from Seattle, in one interview the manager says "Really, of all the musical talent in the Seattle Central District, this guy (referring to Jimi) is the one who made it. THIS GUY, he was a bum."

This has been a subject flogged to death, but my take.

I think you get a notice saying "shipped", when dead.net processes your order. But, the items still needs to be sent to "ups mail innovations", once the item is there UPS makes a shipping label, then UPS will ship item via some secret routing method that is know only to those who understand logistics. Eventually it will be given to the USPS, who will get it to you the next day. I also think ALL movement thru UPS stops completely on weekends.

So your stuff will get there someday, just not when one thinks a reasonable time has past.

My latest 45 was "shipped" on 2/23,,,,, tracking number is useless. USPS is still waiting for package from UPS.

Finding the same problem with "Merch Mountain". "Shipped" doesn't mean it's been "Shipped",,,,,, just the process has started!

Thank you. I know this is oft discussed, I just never experienced it before. I will refrain from suggesting how things ought to work. Managing expectations would seem to be the minimum requirement for good customer service. Best, Mark

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It just means that your name and address were entered into the computer program that prints shipping labels. It doesn’t mean that a label was actually printed, or that a printed label as actually attached to a package for shipping. It certainly doesn’t mean that your package actually shipped.

Get the UPS and USPS apps on your phone and enter the tracking number. It will probably say ‘waiting for package’, but at least when UPS gets a hold of the package you will know.
Then a few weeks later USPS might get a hold of the package, and eventually the package might arrive at your house.

Not a well-oiled machine by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, more like a broke down rusted out piece of junk.
But does Rhino/GD care?
Not at all, because they already have your money and have no motivation to send you what you have already paid for.
It’s pretty much a huge scam.
Look at how many people never received a DaP36.

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