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    One of the shortest-lived iterations of the Grateful Dead was the band that existed December 1971 through March 1972. Jerry, Bob, Phil, Bill, Pigpen, and Keith formed a formidable version of the Dead that only played a few shows together before Donna Jean joined as vocalist, and before Pigpen would depart the stage for good in June 1972. What this sextet lacked in quantity of shows it made up for with creativeness, power, and inspiration. 

    When Pigpen rejoined the Dead on December 1, 1971, after a few months off during which Keith had joined as piano player, the band was now an unstoppably powerful live juggernaut it hadn’t been since the height of the Primal Dead era in late 1968-1969. Widely considered one of the best shows from the Pigpen-Keith era of the Grateful Dead, December 10, 1971 in St. Louis has it all: Pigpen singing lead on four songs including an 18-minute version of Good Lovin’ and a very rare performance of Run Rudolph Run; a deep dive into the Dead’s psychedelic recent past with a monster version of The Other One; plus plenty of the new material from earlier in 1971 like Bertha, Loser, Sugaree, and Playing In The Band. 

    They also hit upon much of the music that would appear the following year on Europe ‘72, such as Jack Straw, Tennessee Jed, Mr. Charlie, and One More Saturday Night. And no Dead show of this vintage would be complete without the “hits”: Truckin’, Sugar Magnolia, and Casey Jones all make appearances. This is truly one of the deepest, most dynamic, exciting, and accessible live shows in the entire Grateful Dead canon.

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  • January 5, 2022 - 12:23pm
    Happy Will
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    That was me, if you read it on Amazon

    Glad your records weren't domed!

  • November 24, 2021 - 7:34am
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    Buy elsewhere

    I recommend purchasing this vinyl box elsewhere. You can find it much cheaper from many online retailers. Even better, grab it from your local record shop. I pre-ordered this in August and it has not yet shipped from dead.net (local record shops have stacks of them) and I cannot get a response from customer service.

  • November 22, 2021 - 8:19am
    Dennis
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    Bob and the LP

    I got mine last week.

    I read somewhere, somebody pointing out the lp's have 'domed" centers and would not allow them to lay flat on a turntable unless you had a turntable weight. They seem fine to me, but the 5th lp on the second side has an etching on it. That center looked a little funky, almost like they squished to album out and then sent it to have the etching pressed in.

    Not sure if it will affect playing, but on that note, I'm NEVER sure how these different "color"/"designs" will affect play either. I know when picture disc first came out they didn't sound near as good as the regular vinyl. But I don't buy them for playing per se, they're just there and look pretty :-)

  • November 22, 2021 - 7:21am
    boblopes
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    Amazon ship date for the LP is pushed out to Dec/Jan

    Have the LPs from dead net started shipping yet? The Amazon ship date for the LP is pushed out to Dec/Jan range with no definitive date. I wonder if that's due to an issue with the pressing or if there's a global issue with vinyl production in general???

    I thought I saw a story or was it a joke about Adele's release as the issue to vinyl delays worldwide. If not, not sure if they're waiting of petroleum prices to come down to get the raw materials or if there's a snafu in supply chain.

    Now that Dave's 1 LP is sold out, wonder when that will ship...

    {edit} I see that DaP1 LP now has a release date of 4/29/22

  • November 17, 2021 - 8:42pm
    ptgreene43
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    Vinyl Long PLAY please.

    Love the Vinyl releases but wish you guys would make the records less qty and longer play per side.

  • October 20, 2021 - 8:10am
    Jaysspacedhead
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    Release date?

    November 19th on this site, but Amazon is available now. Strange!

  • October 8, 2021 - 11:01am
    zxtttxz
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    What is the release date for this record?

    This page indicates the record will be released on Nov 19. Amazon lists the release date as Nov 19. But I just now saw a guy showing this set on YouTube. He showed the entire box. He lives in Canada and bought it from a store owner up there who told him about it. How can the release date be November 19, but some people already have it?

  • October 2, 2021 - 5:12am
    daverock
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    Price drop

    I notice this has dropped in price by over £15.00 on Amazon U.K. over the last 24 hours.

  • September 28, 2021 - 11:47am
    zxtttxz
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    Release date for this record?

    It's interesting. The page here indicates an October 1 release date, but Amazon lists the release date as November 19. I'm thinking the release date has been moved back to November 19.

  • September 8, 2021 - 11:11am
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    Vinyl Fox 1971

    I have been buying more Dead vinyl over the last few years too , but I am not so sure about this one. I think if I don't get it, I won't miss it, but if I do get it I wouldn't be without it.

    I have bought the October 1972 offering on vinyl, though. The music on that one is out of this world.

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One of the shortest-lived iterations of the Grateful Dead was the band that existed December 1971 through March 1972. Jerry, Bob, Phil, Bill, Pigpen, and Keith formed a formidable version of the Dead that only played a few shows together before Donna Jean joined as vocalist, and before Pigpen would depart the stage for good in June 1972. What this sextet lacked in quantity of shows it made up for with creativeness, power, and inspiration. 

When Pigpen rejoined the Dead on December 1, 1971, after a few months off during which Keith had joined as piano player, the band was now an unstoppably powerful live juggernaut it hadn’t been since the height of the Primal Dead era in late 1968-1969. Widely considered one of the best shows from the Pigpen-Keith era of the Grateful Dead, December 10, 1971 in St. Louis has it all: Pigpen singing lead on four songs including an 18-minute version of Good Lovin’ and a very rare performance of Run Rudolph Run; a deep dive into the Dead’s psychedelic recent past with a monster version of The Other One; plus plenty of the new material from earlier in 1971 like Bertha, Loser, Sugaree, and Playing In The Band. 

They also hit upon much of the music that would appear the following year on Europe ‘72, such as Jack Straw, Tennessee Jed, Mr. Charlie, and One More Saturday Night. And no Dead show of this vintage would be complete without the “hits”: Truckin’, Sugar Magnolia, and Casey Jones all make appearances. This is truly one of the deepest, most dynamic, exciting, and accessible live shows in the entire Grateful Dead canon.

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Though I can't find it here, Amazon says they are limited to 12,000.

Will they go fast? No word on what the 10th side etching will be.

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One of the first tapes I was ever given. This 6 piece version of the Dead has always been one of my favorite time periods- they combine the country folk of the A.B./Workingmans stuff with their turn towards the psychedelic jazz that ‘73-‘74 would bring. Keith is, ironically, in peak form given that he’d only been with the band for a short while by then.
So stoked they made this an official release on vinyl. Worth every penny knowing that I’ll have this show at my fingertips forever- December ‘71 was a criminally underrated time for the band.

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Do we know if these LP's are recorded from the original Analogue Tapes? I can't find that info. Thank you.

You can safely assume that these are mastered from digital copies. Very few LPs are mastered with a complete analog chain, and those that are state clearly "cut from the original analog masters" (e.g. Grateful Dead first album mono from record store day 2011; Captain Beefheart Sun Zoom Spark set) or "all analog mastering" (Hendrix first three albums on CBS Legacy/Experience Hendrix), Mobile Fidelity releases marked "original master recordings" etc.

Absent an explicit statement as above, digital sources are always used. For example, the Abbey Road Studios "half speed mastered" series, which are all cut from digital copies of the analog tapes, but which are deceptively marketed to appear as if from analog masters, and many other "audiophile" LPs which frequently are ambiguously identified as "from the original master tapes", which says nothing about the mastering process.

Another issue is the extent to which compression is applied, relevant to the digital versions as well as souvenir LPs sets, something which should also be disclosed.

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Met a DeadHead over the weekend at a friend's house I was staying at. Guy loves the Dead, so much so that his wife is constantly complaining that he needs to stop playing it around the house, because it's pretty much nonstop. He listens to a lot of Sirius Satellite Grateful Dead. He digs Dave Lemieux's commentary......but he doesn't like Pigpen or Dark Star. I had to clarify that it wasn't just the meltdown sections where they go into complete cacophony mode that he disliked about Dark Star, so I asked if he enjoys the melodic Dark Stars,, where Jerry is just noodling away on top of a nice melody, even the main Dark Star theme Melody. No, he doesn't even like that. Doesn't think the main song is that good. He loves the the focused jamming of a good '72 Playing in the Band or Eyes of the World after that. I guess one man's Dark Star is another person's Looks Like Rain (although he did get up out of his chair to turn off Looks Like Rain when it came on). I couldn't possibly say he's not a Deadhead; he had them on the whole weekend, subscribes to Dave's Picks and goes to Dead and Co shows. I don't know.....Weird scenes inside the goldmine.

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I have the boxset on order. Been enjoying the recent vinyl releases either in conjunction with RSD or a major release.

Is this statement "This is truly one of the deepest, most dynamic, exciting, and accessible live shows in the entire Grateful Dead canon." typical Dave excitement or Covid Lockdown hyperbole? Don't get me wrong, I will have it on CD via the boxset. I don't want to preview an archive version, want full onslaught when I spin the disc. Was just thinking of the multiplay factor compared to the vinyl recently released.

I have been buying more Dead vinyl over the last few years too , but I am not so sure about this one. I think if I don't get it, I won't miss it, but if I do get it I wouldn't be without it.

I have bought the October 1972 offering on vinyl, though. The music on that one is out of this world.

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It's interesting. The page here indicates an October 1 release date, but Amazon lists the release date as November 19. I'm thinking the release date has been moved back to November 19.

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This page indicates the record will be released on Nov 19. Amazon lists the release date as Nov 19. But I just now saw a guy showing this set on YouTube. He showed the entire box. He lives in Canada and bought it from a store owner up there who told him about it. How can the release date be November 19, but some people already have it?

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November 19th on this site, but Amazon is available now. Strange!

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Love the Vinyl releases but wish you guys would make the records less qty and longer play per side.

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Have the LPs from dead net started shipping yet? The Amazon ship date for the LP is pushed out to Dec/Jan range with no definitive date. I wonder if that's due to an issue with the pressing or if there's a global issue with vinyl production in general???

I thought I saw a story or was it a joke about Adele's release as the issue to vinyl delays worldwide. If not, not sure if they're waiting of petroleum prices to come down to get the raw materials or if there's a snafu in supply chain.

Now that Dave's 1 LP is sold out, wonder when that will ship...

{edit} I see that DaP1 LP now has a release date of 4/29/22

I got mine last week.

I read somewhere, somebody pointing out the lp's have 'domed" centers and would not allow them to lay flat on a turntable unless you had a turntable weight. They seem fine to me, but the 5th lp on the second side has an etching on it. That center looked a little funky, almost like they squished to album out and then sent it to have the etching pressed in.

Not sure if it will affect playing, but on that note, I'm NEVER sure how these different "color"/"designs" will affect play either. I know when picture disc first came out they didn't sound near as good as the regular vinyl. But I don't buy them for playing per se, they're just there and look pretty :-)

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I recommend purchasing this vinyl box elsewhere. You can find it much cheaper from many online retailers. Even better, grab it from your local record shop. I pre-ordered this in August and it has not yet shipped from dead.net (local record shops have stacks of them) and I cannot get a response from customer service.

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