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    What's Inside:
    7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
    Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
    Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
    Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes
     
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

    Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.
     
    LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973. 
     
    The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.
     
    The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.
     
    All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”  
     
    Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others. 
     
    Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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  • jonathan918@GD
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    This box has really been proving it's self lately! The Fox 72 shows especially. That Playing In The Band from 10/17/72 and He's Gone from 10/19/72!! My god man! my most of the time favorite He's Gone is 9/17/72, but boy oh boy, does 10/19 give it one hell of a run!! Wonderful stuff indeed!

  • daverock
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    Stephen - I've just sent a pm.

  • tombstone
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    Hey Stephen! I don't have that particular set or I'd offer to burn you a copy. And this may be a silly question. But have you tried to rip the CD to your computer? It's possible, if the split doesn't interfere with the CD spinning up in your drive, that you may be able to extract the music and at least archive it and reburn to a CD-R. I've had success ripping CDs with heavy scratches that have compromised the playback. Perhaps this is an option? Good luck to you!

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    Hi good people. Sorry to be off topic, but trying to reach out any and every way I can. Short version, picked up a mint Spring 1990 TOO box from an Oxfam charity shop. It’s charity, so obviously I can’t and won’t return it. However, I have disc 3 of 3/28/90 with a split from the central hub, vertical, ending several mil’ short of the index and data area. I’m 99.999% positive that it’s an original manufacturing issue, the box is literally pristine otherwise, with no evidence whatsoever that it was ever even perused! I’ve just left a begging email with dead.net, but am also reaching out to see if anyone can point me to “other” channels in hopes of fixing the issue…? Please send me a message if you have any pointers… (even if it’s just a good and proven way to repair a disc) or can lead me to an individual who can possibly add that personal touch…

    Thanks for your time and forgive the intrusion. Appreciate any help in advance! Be well!

    Stephen.

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    What a surprise this show was to me, even though I had listened to it at least once before it was released. It's subtle, yet powerful. I don't credit the sound quality for this, I think I listened to the Kevin Tobin soundboard before the official release, which was not the Full Norman, but it's still excellent. Still, the fact that was an official release with all the pomp and (st. of) Circumstance required me to listen makes a big difference.

    KF, you are spot on, Jerry is on fire on this release, but not in a heavy metal way.. it's subtle and amazingly tasteful. His timing is impeccable.

    It's an amazing release. I am embarrassed to admit.. I like it more now that it was released than I did before which is not rational. But that's my honest take. It's a keeper.

    I guess sunlight on this one moved it up a notch or two on my original take. Which is fine with me.

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    Nassau 9/8/73, DaP 38. Someone put Jerry out, he's on fire. The solo that builds up to the crescendo at the end is one of the best.

  • DeadVikes
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    According to the credits in Dave's #11, 11/17/72, original recordings produced by Bear..So is it his recording or someone else's?
    I am assuming the two people he is referring to are Rex Jackson and Kidd Candelario.

    Since we had three shows from late 72 in last year's box, I would doubt they would do back to back 72 box sets. They like to mix it up.

    All this talk makes me want to listen to the Wichita show today.

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    HF, Come down off that ledge. Don't do it. Dave's putting the box together now.

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    11/18/72 sounds a bit unbalanced too. Useful for studying Phil's technique though. Hopefully the powers that be aren't put off releasing more Fall 72 if the mixes aren't perfect. Contrary to what was said, we do not always need things to be perfect. Focussing on sound quality can be a bit of a red herring.

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    Quite frankly I don't know what he's talking about

    The date of demarcation he cites is 10/21, but Vanderbilt sounds good, as does 11/15 Oklahoma, 11/17 Wichita, and 11/19 Houston, 12/12 Winterland, and NYE seem in fine enough shape for me. Hopefilly he was just bitter. Cancel no plans for a Fall '72 box set! But it was interesting to hear about how his role changed.

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes
 
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.
 
LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973. 
 
The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.
 
The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.
 
All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”  
 
Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others. 
 
Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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Just heard about the upcoming slow down at USPS; guessing we'll get it in the US by Halloween with any luck.
In the meantime, I think I'll pick up the 2 Download Series I'm missing.

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Heard an NPR story that this will be a global problem because a lot of ships with shipping containers are being held up. Prices are also expected to skyrocket for the holidays.

I don't think a global trade war was such a great idea. Add a global pandemic to the mix and it's a perfect storm disaster.

Crazy because of the time lapse from the last box from '76 that was released just as the pandemic hit came out earlier in the year than they usually do.

I suspect Dave's Picks 40 will also be delayed. Hopefully the quality of the product doesn't suffer from rearranging logistics for future releases and the production of them.

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Shipping is a generic term rather than specific to ships. Even though I live across the pond, I am not expecting my order to be sent by ship, indeed I don't think it will see the inside of a shipping container either. I am hoping it will be sent using one of those new-fangled flying machines. Even so, using such modern methods, recent orders from the US and Canada have taken between two and seven weeks to get to me. I hope I receive this highly anticipated box before Christmas.

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You could be forgiven for thinking they still use real ships given the time it takes !

Bit of a shock for me this week with the latest order from Bear Family in Germany - the duty has gone through the roof. They wouldnt deliver unless I paid up -first time this has happened. This, combined with the postage, adds up t what I paid for the box nearly - and that wasn't cheap.

What with Covid and Brexit, the simple act of rocking has become strewn with obstacles.

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not good to hear.
What does ''rockin' in the free world'' actually mean?
Seems like govts take advantage of other peoples freedom, in the 21st century.
''when will we ever learn?''
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My Neil Young @ Carnegie Hall which I ordered this week, will not arrive until 10/13 - 10/21 range. Granted I ordered it this week when WharfratWhitey mentioned it.

BOBLOPES - My Live at Carnegie Hall cd arrived this evening. Not played it yet, hopefully tomorrow.

Edit: I’ve now heard the album. I was, slightly, concerned before listening because ‘Mojo’ magazine had given it 4 stars because of the out of time clapping from the audience!
In reality, that only happened on ‘Sugar Mountain’ . For what is described as on official bootleg the recording is great and it’s a fantastic concert of solo acoustic Neil Young. The same magazine gave a 4 star rating to the soon to come 20cd box set as well so they must have had a copy of the digital files.

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Possibly a production delay, such as defective CD’s that they decided should get fixed before releasing the Box and then having to send out replacements.
If it’s a shipping issue then the pallets of Box Sets probably haven’t made it to the Gnarlywood warehouse.

We pay for shipping with Box Sets so they previously haven’t come through Mail Innovations like DaP’s do.
So, hopefully once the Boxes do ship they come either UPS or FedEx.

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Yeah for me the box sets always come through UPS, the Dave’s Picks through USPS. This is the most anticipated for a box release I’ve been since the Get Shown the Light., been really digging these ‘71 shows they are giving us. The extra wait is excruciating, but at least 12/10/71 is available for streaming, and it’s a monster.

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I bought the full series, but am only able to download the first two discs of music. Is anyone else having this issue?

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Dave's #40 is due October 29.
It is going to be a busy month.

I still think they should put out some music during November through December.
Last year subscriptions went on sale October 23.

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I wonder if this will ship when they say. They haven't even shown us a picture or an unboxing. I received the 3cd set 12/10/71 from Amazon on Friday.

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My email says it will ship at the top of the week. is that an Americanism?

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My email says it will ship at the top of the week. is that an Americanism?

Posted by: Colin Gould on Sat, 10/02/2021 - 08:42

Yes, Colin Gould, it is an Americanism.

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USPS just announced they are suspending ALL mail deliveries to New Zealand, Australia, Samoa, and 18 other countries citing "lack of available transportation" and insinuating that it is Covid-19 related. I suspect the infamous Mr. Dejoy may be playing part of his self enriching scheme here. At least "suspending" sounds like it could come back at some point. Or not! Like the sorting machines? Guess I'll be sending my sister a paperless X-mas card this year.
Cheers! ( I need a drink after that)

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So weird. Usually we would see the unboxing and contents of the box. Wonder what happened????

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I got around to listening to the new officially released Fox Theatre, St Louis, MO 12/10/71 I bought thru Amazon.
I already had an unofficial version which I used to enjoy until today, from the "Grateful Dead '71 Dead" big yellow box of 21 discs sourced from FM radio broadcasts.

There is no comparison!
The new official release blows the unofficial recording out of the water! Simple as that.
However, I do like that extra track between Good Lovin' & Brokedown Palace, "Talking / Tuning" Haha!

A grateful thanks to all at Rhino who made it happen!

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When I went in to the record store on High Street in Oxford OH, during October of 1973 to buy the new album, Wake of the Flood, little did I know that Row Jimmy, MS Half-Step, Stella Blue and Eyes of the World would become favorite songs of mine. Sure rekindles memories of seeing the band perform on 10/27/73 in Indy.

It's still good value, though, that yellow box. The three stand out shows- for me - are 10/19/71, 11/7/71 and 12/5/71. 11/7 being one of the best of any year. It would be great if that one got an official release on cd, vinyl and t shirt.

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I've heard of Stormy Monday, Ruby Tuesday, Hump Day, Thirsty Thursday, Thank God It's Friday, this weekend, next weekend, this coming Monday, all the days and the days between. I've heard of "top of the morning." But the "top of next week"? Never hear that 'un. And I'm pretty durned Americun if I do sez so myself.

Not to be, as Hamlet said, negative, but "heading your way at the top of next week" has a hint of "the check is in mail" (speaking of Americanisms). It sounds like what it probably means is 'hopefully pretty soon but don't count on it."

Which is fine, really. I was glad to at least get some acknowledgment that they know there are thousands of us out there who have been checking our email every few hours hoping for a shipping notice, and at least they're aware that we're all wondering why nothing seems to be happening. A little more specific would've been cool, but they probably still don't know exactly when the sets will ship and they didn't want to leave us hanging, but didn't want to promise something they couldn't deliver, either.

So, whatever, now we have time to ponder the mysteries of Time. Tick tock.

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It's Eddie Cochran's birthday today - left us way too early, at 21.

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Plus I just got a UPS notice that a shipping label has been created. 5.6 lbs

A little disappointed that they are using UPS Surepost and not straight UPS

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I wasn't aware of that, so thanks for bringing it up. I agree 100%-his records sound as fresh and life affirming now as they did the day they were cut. I might dust off that dvd of his performance at the Town Hall Party later on.

Nice pick of the tele as your avatar, incidentally. A couple of weeks ago I had the capacitors changed on my Japanese pink paisley tele. It's gone from sounding like a tinny and harsh copy to being a full bodied rocker - more like the 60's model it is based on. I couldn't believe how much the sound has improved - like a new instrument. So, a highly recommended upgrade if you have any Japanese fenders in your house.

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Streamed it on Apple Music and gotta say it's exceptional! I had it previously on the Euro FM box and another SBD copy and those never really stood out to me. But this official release has amazing sound and the show just rocks and flows perfectly. My fave '71 shows generally occur late in the year after Keith arrived (Albuquerque, Ann Arbor, Felt Forum, Boston, Austin, etc.) Maybe I was just in the proper mood or so badly wanting to dip into the new box, but it really hit the spot.

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That Tele's a partscaster, very light body and great(All Parts) neck. However, I'm having same issue you had, the pickups are extremely harsh, especially the bridge pu which is barely usable. I should replace the caps like you did. In the meantime I'm switching to my H530 Heritage, 2 P90s...warm and crisp.
Btw, I don't recall ever seeing pictures of Jerry with a Tele; or a Jazzmaster.

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Cousins - I seem to remember Jerry playing a telecaster in the Festival Express film of the 1970 train ride . He is playing it while guesting with another band - I forget who now-not one of the famous ones, and not one that is listed on the back of the dvd box I have here. He doesnt really stretch out on it, as I recall. I don't remember ever seeing him with photographed with a jazzmaster, though.

It's a pity he didn't play a tele The Dead occasionally, especially during the early 70s. Bob seems to have played one on rare occassions - I think he is photographed with one at the Melkweg show in 1981.

I'm not familiar with the Heritage guitar you mention- but ones with P90 pickups always attract me. There's an Epiphone copy of a Les Paul Junior widely available at the moment that is supposed to be as good, if not better, than the Gibson one. But at a fraction of the price. The one in TV yellow with 2 pickups looks to be the one !

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Do an internet images search for Jerry with Elvis Costello. Isn't that a Jazzmaster he's playing?

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I almost spit out my cereal! :-P

-edit- Or, should I say...'Settle back easy, Jim....' :-)

-edit 2- Jerry on a StairMaster?

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But my UPS account says that I have a Sure Post package coming from Gnarlywood.
UPS is not yet in possession of said package.

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First I got the UPS notification, then 6 hrs later, I got the shipping notification from dead.net. I haven’t checked tracking because that will just drive me crazy. I’m sure it hasn’t moved anywhere yet

I couldn't resist. I purchased and just wrapped it up and shipped it.. I am gifting it to you, DaveRock as I am sure you will use it for good instead of evil.

All you have to do is pay the import duties/tariffs. :D

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Coming soon

:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Congrats to those getting this or about to. My update is "Not shipped." But hey, if it gets here in a few weeks in one piece, and the discs work, and the box set isn't a steamer trunk or a giant replica of the St. Louis Arch, I'll be good.

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Sez it shipped last night at 7,,,, it's telling me Saturday!!!

We'll see,,,, I think more like Tuesday. Unless UPS gets it to the PO by Thursday, maybe Friday, I will not see until next week,,,,, UPS doesn't work on the weekends.

I have a space already cleared on the shelf for the "Loaf".

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Mine says it was delivered when all I got was the shirt (nice BTW). Fingers firmly crossed. All good things in all good time?

-edit- Based on the estimated weight of the package, it was only supposed to be the shirt anyway for now. I'm assuming I'll get separate tracking info. once the box ships out. So, I'm not fretting (yet).

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Shipping Notice came this morning, UPS shows shipped, delivery estimate Wednesday 13th. I ain't superstitious...
(Jeff Becks version from Truth playing in my head right now)
Last three:
Dave McMurray Grateful Deadication
Keith Jarrett Munich
Charles Lloyd Hyperion with Higgins
Signed up to work two events indoors, where's my boostah. Roseanne Cash, then Mike Gordon with Leo Kottke. Holding a second row seat for Pat Metheny next month.
Fall colors are popping here in Vermont.

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