- 1,193 repliesmarye
Joined:Since the existing threads along this line are more archival than current, here's a new one for discussing events in the outside world. In a civil and respectful manner please. There's a lot going on out there. Stay safe, look out for each other
- JimInMD
Joined:Re: 3rd TermWell said, valid points.
As for Obama running, what a relief it would be to have that much sanity returned to the white house. I bet Michelle might have something to say about it also. I can only imagine what that run up to the election would look like. Wow, what a juxtaposition.
I love the quote someone recently said, I forget who.. and am paraphrasing to best of my memory.
Why are we giving $20 to $40 Billion dollars to Argentina, because I have a funny feeling most of the current administration will be moving there after he leaves office.
- jonathan918@GD
Joined:3rd TermYes, that should apply to everyone!
However, this perpetrator only cars about himself. You know, humans have a hard time admitting when they are wrong. Lord knows the folks who voted him back in, are sure as hell unable to admit it!!EDIT: Also, all those other peretrators who are currently behind him in everyway (Spear Of The House, etc) are in for a rude awaking when he's gone. As no one else, IMHO, is going to be able to manipulate and get away with, what the orange turd has
Personaly, I think we will weather this storm. Even though the damage is already at a devastating amount, I'm choosing to keep the faith!!
- JimInMD
Joined:Great Googly MooglyIf he gets unpopular enough, this coup of our democracy and electoral process will not succeed. But his numbers still have to drop some.
Watch for a concerted counter offensive. A cornered rat is a dangerous rat.
Good news for now.
But this is a short-term win, this is a cancer that will either grow or be beaten.
Thought for a day, this $300M to $500M grotesque out of the blue ball room is not being built for the next president. It is being built for this president, but it's estimated completion date is not until the end of his term (same with the $1 billion retrofit of Air Force One) and apparently, he really likes his new gold and marble crapper room. He's not planning to leave.
The system, as they like to say, is being rigged, little by little, day by day. Watch this and make noise when the election process is not fair and not legal.
- 1stshow70878Joined:Power To The People!
Think globally, act locally. Locally we did a successful recall election of an idiot county commissioner who was as Trumpy as it gets. And this in a county where we have only a third of the the electorate on our side. Sweet success!
And my state voted to bring back free school lunches, Including working with local farmers to get fresh local products to the schools, pay our school cafeteria workers more, and give any monies leftover to SNAP. All from a new tax. Unfortunately all 4 local school board candidates on the Trumpy side won. But at least the board is not all bad (yet).
Democratic sweep on election night nationally. The 2 governors, NYC mayor, and CA prop. 50. Very encouraging in these trying times. We can do this thing!
Cheers - Dennis
Joined:4 Winds and Trickle DownThat's what you get when you stand under someone pissing.
These words have stuck with me for years.
There's a Vietnam vet with a cardboard sign
Sitting there by the left turn line
The flag on his wheelchair flapping in the breeze
One leg missing and both hands free
No one's paying much mind to him
The V.A. budget's just stretched so thin
And now there' s more coming back from the Mideast war
We can't make it here anymore
And that big ol' building was the textile mill
That fed our kids and it paid our bills
But they turned us out and they closed the doors
'Cause we can' t make it here anymore
You see those pallets piled up on the loading dock
They're just gonna sit there 'til they rot
'Cause there's nothing to ship, nothing to pack
Just busted concrete and rusted tracks
Empty storefronts around the square
There's a needle in the gutter and glass everywhere
You don't come down here unless you're looking to score
We can't make it here anymore
The bar's still open but man it' s slow
The tip jar's light and the register' s low
The bartender don't have much to say
The regular crowd gets thinner each day
Some have maxed out all their credit cards
Some are working two jobs and living in cars
Minimum wage won't pay for a roof, won't pay for a drink
If you gotta have proof just try it yourself, Mr. CEO
See how far $5.15 an hour will go
Take a part time job at one your stores
I bet you can't make it here anymore
There's a high school girl with a bourgeois dream
Just like the pictures in the magazine
She found on the floor of the laundromat
A woman with kids can forget all that
If she comes up pregnant what'll she do
Forget the career and forget about school
Can she live on faith? Live on hope?
High on Jesus or hooked on dope
When it's way too late to just say no
You can't make it here anymore
Now I'm stocking shirts in the Wal-Mart store
Just like the ones we made before
'Cept this one came from Singapore
I guess we can't make it here anymore
Should I hate a people for the shade of their skin
Or the shape of their eyes or the shape I'm in
Should I hate 'em for having our jobs today
No, I hate the men sent the jobs away
I can see them all now, they haunt my dreams
All lily white and squeaky clean
They've never known want, they'll never know need
Their shit don't stink and their kids won't bleed
Their kids won't bleed in their damn little war
And we can't make it here anymore
Will work for food, will die for oil
Will kill for power, and to us the spoils
The billionaires get to pay less tax
The working poor get to fall through the cracks
So let 'em eat jellybeans let 'em eat cake
Let 'em eat shit, whatever it takes
They can join the Air Force or join the Corps
If they can't make it here anymore
So that's how it is, that's what we got
If the president wants to admit it or not
You can read it in the paper, read it on the wall
Hear it on the wind if you're listening at all
Get out of that limo, look us in the eye
Call us on the cell phone, tell us all why
In Dayton, Ohio or Portland, Maine
Or a cotton gin out on the great high plains
That's done closed down, along with the school
And the hospital, and the swimming pool
Dust devils dance in the noonday heat
There's rats in the alley and trash in the street
Gang graffiti on a boxcar door
We can't make it here anymorewritten by James Mc Murtry,,, we can't make it here anymore (on youtube)
- fourwindsblow
Joined:Round and Round...I don't see why we have too keep fixing things after the conservatives screw things up...70's, 80's, early 90's, 2000's, late 2010's. Here we are again!!!
Blame everyone else, but themselves whom are the ones responsible for the way this country has gone in the last 55 years.
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Trickle Down Economics...Who would vote for that??

1950's mob boss...
would be so jealous.... having the Justice Department in your pocket, and not having too cut them in they are being paid by tax payers! Are they being paid? (With the shutdown)I bet they would do it for free!
We investigated ourselves...
....and found no wrongdoing.
courts
The Trump-appointed judge out west did the right thing and immediately stopped the federalization of the National Guard to send to Portland. What does the Biden-appointed judge who got the Illinois/Chicago case do? Doesn't issue an emergency order and says she has to read the materials first, meanwhile Texas NG are deployed. Good f'in luck getting them out of your state!
This is like Merrick Garland sitting on the Jan. 6 case against trump for two years. An emergency for the nation is happening, the people perpetrating the atrocities DO NOT CARE about following procedure and 'norms.' Extreme times call for extreme measures and that judge needed to immediately look at the basic facts and rule accordingly.
I was just in Chicago a couple weeks ago and visit several times a year-- it is a great city where you can generally get through 95% of it without incident. Give the big cities the resources to take care of the big crime areas and they will take care of it.
The Senate oversight hearings are a joke-- these appointees will not answer Democrats pointed questions, but just deflect, deflect and deflect by slinging shit like monkeys at the zoo. Awful people.
One good thing happening right now-- I am a long-suffering Milwaukee Brewers fan and we are up 2-0 on the Cubs in the NLDS. Hoping this is the year.
We Investigated Ourselves
We investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing.
There is a legal term for that.. it's called corruption. Especially when dubious answers are provided at a Senate hearing.
Ask where Bob Menendez is right now. He is in Federal prison in Schuylkill, Pennsylvania. He was investigated by a democratic administration and they sentenced him to 11 years in federal prison for bribery.
Homan allegidly recevied $50,000 in a brown paper bag allegedly for special consideration for future Government contracts in the next (current) administration. The transaction was taped. It smells like bribery, tastes like bribery and sounds like bribery yet they swept this under the carpet because he is an FOD (Friend of D*****)
Where is the $50,000 that was handed to Tom Homan in a paper bag and did he claim this income on his 2024 tax return. Also, is this a crime or not? Clearly this is not ok and a serious and real investigation should be performed, the taxpayer money returned and if a crime occurred, he should be charged and prosecuted. If convicted, he should face fair punishment and (hopefully, fingers crossed) not be pardoned. It's not that difficult.
Where is the $50,000. Why is the administration covering up this and the Epstein crimes.
Release the Epstein files. Find the $50,000 in taxpayer money and proceed according to applicable federal laws. This is an outrage.
Streets of Chicago
There's video floating already of troops on the streets of Chicago. Wearing tactical gear with faces covered by bandanas and masks, carrying military assault weapons, they seem to be walking around asking people quesitons, stopping cars and what seems to be demanding people not record them even when no crimes are being committed. They would not identify themselves, only reference the 4 digit number on their tactical uniforms.
Imagine how you would feel seeing a military presence in your neighborhood as you try to carry out your daily duties. I bet most people would stay indoors and avoid this at all costs.
Imagine what this is doing to tourism, to business, to restaurants, to anything.
This is different, this is not who we are. Get up, stand up. Stand up for your rights. Do this peacefully, obey the law, be accurate, be non-violent.
Re Jim: It's totally un-American ...
and I personally see it as 100% unlawful > Specifically, in that citizens' rights to speech and association come before - WAY BEFORE - any federal (or state) ability or desire to question or contradict their individual liberty or personhood. That is what warrants - remember those? - are for.
So all of this is just (edit: MALIGNANT) 'post-Constitutional' theatrics being carried out by people who are already in clear violation of their oaths of office/service ...
Tourism effects....
.....(gestures broadly around Las Vegas.)
Had to close a pretty popular open air flea market here a couple weeks ago due to fears.
Being here illegally is a misdemeanor and a civic offense btw.
Plenary authority. I admit I had to look that up. Miller let slip that trump has that during an interview then totally stopped talking. They had to cut to commercial.
Red Coats and Acitamef, Acemfa, um, Tylenol
As a father of a kid w/ autism I was going to comment on that, but what, that was like 6 months ago. Suffice it to say if you believe the guy with the brain worm about anything you're are a fool. And if you believe the Orange Buffoon who had to call it Tylenol because he couldn't pronounce acetaminophen your are not only a fool, you're the world's biggest chump.
MAGA cheers troops on our streets, and we always knew they were not nearly the patriots they claim. I'll go a step further and say if it were 1776 they would be the red coats among us, saying things like "but, but George's troops keep us safe!" and "George will give us representation eventually, just give him some time to make it work." Now we all know for certain who secretly hates America
Preach, Burnsy
Preach
"2nd amendment keeps us safe from a tyrannical government!"
Yo, government tyranny is rampant!
"Hooray for the tyrannical government!"
Ugh...
They are the redcoats....
....they just switched to redhats.
Can't spell hatred without it!
You're good, vguy
Rock on
I really try be kind. I really do.....
....that being said, because muzzle velocity moves fast.
When asked today in the "Gold-Paint Office", trump was asked about backpaying furloughed government employees after this MAGA government shutdown. And I quote.
"For the most part, we're going to take care of our people. There are some people that really don't deserve to be taken care of, and we'll take care of them in a different way,"
Ambiguous, yet its a tail pinned on a donkey.
Evil, evil person who should be in jail.
Biden was at the Phillies game the other day.
Tylenol
It was like two weeks ago, but it sure seems like two years.
People are suffering. This is NOT great.
No nobel peace price, no spot on mt. rushmore, no more tyranny, this is your legacy and it's not as you had hoped.
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A better reality
Yes to Science
Yes to Universities
Yes to Equality
Yes to Diversity
Yes to Kindness
Yes to Intelligence
Yes to Humor and Creativity
Yes to Individualism
No to Authoritarian Rule
A Farewell to Kings / No More Kings
All good values
Yes to the cultivation of agape too.
Rust never sleeps
'We will take care of some, and the others we can take care of in a different way' =(:-o)
My my hey hey...
Being A Good Person
The Orange Stain said yesterday - and anyone can look this up - there's no reason to be a good person...
The exact quote is: "You know, there’s no reason to be good. I wanna be good because you wanna prove to God you’re good so you go to that next step, right? So, that’s very important to me. I think it’s really, very important."
THIS IS OUR PRESIDENT
He can't even say the quiet part quietly anyone.
He doesn't have even a shred of decency, humanity, or empathy in his soulless body.
And THIS is what his MAGAT followers aspire to.
To be as absolutely shitty to anyone and everyone as humanly possible.
And OF COURSE, kindness can ONLY be transactional so he can go see some made-up Sky Daddy at the end of his miserable existence. (hint - he ain't goin to no sky, he's going to the depths of hades if there is anything of the sort)
Clearly the Golden Rule means nothing nor does kindness, decency, respect or any of the things that would ever bring us together.
He must go.
More Big Macs, STAT!
Congestive Heart Failure is a Thing
Its just.
So.
Exhausting.
Sigh,
Sixtus
I certainly didn't vote for him
He is supported by "Christians"
How can he talk about "God" when he is the polar opposite of what "God" is supposed to be about?
In the best book of all time, "1984", there is a term "doublethink".
That is exactly what we have here.
OPPRESSION IS LIBERTY
LYING IS TRUTH
AUTOCRACY IS DEMOCRACY
God damn you, DT.
You are evil, through and through.
Meanwhile, on Earth 2
Where healthcare premiums for many are more than doubling so we can funnel tax breaks to billionaires like Mark Zuckerberg so he can finally get that gold plated, ivory back scratcher he always wanted.
Anyway, while we strap it to the middle and lower class we are sending a $20 Billion dollar rescue package to Javier Gerardo Milei and the people of Argentina. The money is supposed to stabilize the Argentinian peso, because, well.. another dictator needs help, and you know these dictators, they like to remove the independence of their central banks, in our case the Federal Reserve, and turn them into cash machines for their dictators. An unfortunate side-effect can be a massive devaluation of your currency and run-away inflation, but no bother, he needs our help, and they need your hard-earned money. Sounds familiar right, because our dear leader is doing the same thing with our Federal Reserve, stacking it with loyalists. Back to dictators needing help. first Bolsonaro from Brazil for getting indicted for their January 6th, now Milei. But they are loyal friends, what are you going to do?
So we are sending a $20 billion bailout to Argentina while at the same time slashing money from our healthcare system so we can give tax breaks to the uber wealthy. Because, well, President Milei needs another chainsaw, he left his last one with Elon musk when he helped kick off DOGE at CPAC in February.
I guess when you break it down this way it makes perfect sense. Nothing wrong with having three jobs and going without healthcare, it builds character.
Thoughts of mortality
That's at least the 3rd time in as many months that The Turd has spoken of his mortality. Gives me hope, lol. And then there's the theory that he is incognito and not doing his constant tweeting once every 28 days. The theorists contend he is getting tested monthly for some malady. Loved the story about how he left his room in the Palace on his recent visit. What a slob!
Big Mac Attack please!
Taxation without representation ...
is exactly what - per the Turd - the "tariff money I can spread around" constitutes. The fact that he claims (merely for effect?) he will give money to fund WIC does not make it Constitutional in any way.
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As an American whose forbearers minted the first coin of the colonies, and captained the USS Constitution during the war of 1812, >> All of this is completely and totally UNACCEPTABLE.
10.18.2025, etc. - Be There!
Tariffs
There is seemingly little or no transparency on it's accounting and the administration is proposing how it should be spent.
Seems rife for corruption.
Simply Put:
With all of these things (tariffs, occupation, etc.) being inflicted at once, We are already well 'over the line' - the Constitution is already shredded ... Gone.
I know good folks and fine minds are already working on how to re-institute it (out of the ashes), in some updated version, in the future.
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Pray that We get there.
Shiny objects, the look, it's a squirrel over there thing
Now he wants the FBI to look into "the Amelia Earhart files" to find their next conspiracy theory to deflect from Epstein and illegal troops in blue cities. Sure, they aren't busy so why not. Sheesh! Stable genius? Um, no.
When are love comes tumbling down
In The Midnight Hour... The sky was yellow and the sun was blue, strangers stopping strangers just too beat them down!
Peace Frogs
Lots of conflict in Chicago; while the people are behaving peacefully, the same cannot be said of ICE. They are looking for conflict where none exists. They are manhandling law-abiding people, tossing them on the pavement like rag dolls, threatening to arrest others. These things are in violation of the law. They are ignoring our constitutional right to assemble peacefully.
Reporting shows there are serious discussions in the orange stain administration of invoking the Insurrection Act of 1807. To be clear, there is no insurrection, no legitimate justification that supports this measure. This, folks, is radical. If this happens, he will have dragged us all over a cliff. A cliff of turmoil, trouble and pain and the kind of cliff that is not so easy to get back to where you once were.
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The four-point plan
1 Deploy ICE to Blue Cities
2 Exaggerate the scale and severity
3 Deploy National Guard Troops
4 Invoke the Insurrection Act
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They are provoking reactions and something sinister is afoot. This creates a pretext that could be used to consolidate power in a way that makes our constitution meaningless. Let Chicago be Chicago, federal troops do not belong there right now. Dangerous stuff.
Douchebag thought habeas corpus....
....was a person during a sit down today when asked about it.
Deferred to Bondi. Who also didn't answer the question.
I'm spider-sensing a theme here, and it's not transparency.
Deferred to
I think he deferred to Kristi Noem, who immediately shot the dog across the street. In her defense, she thought the dog's name was habeas.
Futurology
“I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
No thing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
Ozymandias - Shelley
Might this be the fate of the golden statue to be built in Gazaland?
Don’t get me wrong, I hope the current peace process enables the return of all the hostages and brings an end to the current genocide.
The four-point plan?
If I could add a fifth after Insurrection Act...
(5) Confiscate the voting machines !
ps. The Sharpie Pen is mightier than the Sword !
A Five-Point Dumpster Fire
The president of Colombia is a little pissed off. He is claiming we bombed a boat carrying Colombian Citizens. I think I'd be pissed off too.
If true, this is in violation of US and International law.
The orange stain is a train wreck. Everyday a new nightmare. Everyday something huge that is reprehensible and unacceptable. There is no oversight and transparency. This will only get worse. Get up, stand up. Let your voice be heard. Do so within the law and non-violently. Take a video if you see someone breaking the law and send it to local media - get it out. People need to see what's going on.
We don't need a King. There is something very, very wrong here. Every day, something very, very wrong occurs. We know the cause, one bad egg.
Imagine
The 85th anniversary of John Lennon's birth.
As HF sez,
Paz
A Farewell to Kings
"A Farewell to Kings" is a song about the corruption of leadership and the decline of society, where people have abandoned wisdom and great visions for easier, less ethical paths, leading to oppression and rule by self-serving tyrants. The "farewell" signifies a necessary awakening for the people to realize their own inherent power and reject the need for such rulers, becoming the solution to their own problems rather than waiting for leadership.
And an under-rated album.
I don't want it all...
...no no, I just want a little bit...
one bad egg
with A LOT of enablers
violation of law? who cares? certainly not the "law and order" convicted felon president who instigated an attack on the US capitol because he loves America so much.
Welcome to the Vomitorium
First ...
Got too end this shutdown , swear in the Congress Women and vote to bring the Epstein files to the floor for a vote?
Epstein's cell...
"The FBI literally has all of the best tools. I mean, spared no expense. They have every tool you can imagine. And they used none of it as far as we can tell," forensic analyst Nick Barreiro said after reviewing the photos, many of which have never been published. "How are there not way more people pointing out the absurdity of this?"
Weird story!
2018 midterms I went to a rally before anyone spoke they played "Sympathy for the Devil" Later they played it again! Everyone just ignored it... twice!!! Hahaha
October 18 No Kings rallies
We expect a big turnout in Denver and the police do not want outside agitators (as in, any federal presence) because, of course, that produces violence.
We will be there en masse.
As ever, Paz, HF
P.S. Er, where do I go on this site to find out what y'all are expecting for DP 56?
I mean, at the rally, we'll be chanting 86-47, but here I'd rather chant 68-now!
DaP 56 speculation
HF Most peoples suggestions for #56 are appearing in the DaP #55 comments.
I just wanna jump in and say....
....you guys are the REAL patriots.
Those loyalist "christian" fellow fascist countrymen are not.
And I still can't find the Dave's 55 comment page.
Edit.
Back to autism. Did you know that circumcisions are linked to it?
Thats what our "SeCrEtaRy oF hEaLth" spewed today.
People are going to believe this, you know.
Finding #55 (or any other) Comments
VGUY Click the icon at the top right of the home screen, Choose Recent Posts from the drop down menu, then look through the list for the required comments thread.
As has been quoted before..
Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel. I'd be insulted if anyone thought I was one.
Better luck next time.
So the orange turd has failed to get the Nobel Peace Prize. Maybe he shouldn't have said he would invade Greenland or that he would take back the Panama Canal by force. However, to his credit, he did end more fictitious conflicts than anyone else since the beginning of civilisation. Presumably he will now take revenge on Norway, as if they had anything to do with the award. Anyway, there wasn't room for the award on the mantelpiece of the tacky, gold-painted Oval Orifice due to all the other gold crap he has put there.
Maybe now he can get back to emulating the dictators of Central Asian Republics that he so admires, the ones that used to part of the Soviet Union. Like them, the orange turd loves things like giant flags, gold statues, bizarre building projects etc. He already has the flags outside the Shite House, he planned to put a giant gold statue of himself in the middle of the Gaza Riviera. Now he's building a ridiculous ballroom at the Shite House. I can understand that he wants a room to keep his balls in, but are they really that big? I guess Ms. Daniels knows, but she hasn't said.
Ask yourself
Am I the Victim or the Crime?
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I'm the Crime!
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PS. Speaker Johnson has no soul...
Voting machines
Dominion voting machines sold to a republican election official.
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It was a three hour meeting, a 3 hr meeting? When he was coched on the five point plan too destroy Western Democracy.
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Everyday is....Just Another Orange Brick in the Wall
Vguy & Autism
No one has mentioned it yet, but autism is caused by swallowing spit.
....But only in small amounts over a long period of time.
KATU has a livestream up 24 hrs a day
It is F’ing HILARIOUS! Enjoy Humor is the medicine.
Fraud??
He didn't win!
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Dr Freud on line 1....
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Turbines on the windmill go round, and round all day long!!!
Today's Outrage
RIF. They have begun the process of firing thousands in response to Dems not signing off on the CR (Continuing Resolution on budgetary differences to open the Government).
So thousands of people will ripped out of their jobs/careers damaging their lives and our economy, because, well, when you don't get your way, you need to be cruel to your advisory and leverage any drop of blood and pain you can. Sort of like a petulant child with poopy pants in the sandbox. Sad.
This is not who we are, we used to be a pragmatic, problem solving government from the people for the people.
We the people, in order to form a more perfect union.
Now we are
Me the Ruler, in order to form a more perfect balance sheet, corrupt the justice, insure domestic hostility, pervert the common defense (against our own), destroy the general welfare and, obscure the meaning of liberty to ourselves and my prosperity, do ordain and destabilize this constitution for the United States of America.
Tomorrow's Outrage
The current administration is at war with itself trying to cut up to $30 Billion from the Department of Energy. Specifically, they want to gut any green, alternative energy project the department currently supports. This, despite 72% ot 73% of the country believing in climate change and supporting these initiatives.
Why?
Because, well, the orange stain begged and pleaded for $1 Billion in cash from the fossil fuel energy giants for his election campaign and promised in return to support these industries and gut alternative energy initiatives.
Sounds like corruption, doesn't it.. but this was completely legal thanks to Citizens United and other perversions to campaign finance laws.
Is it we the people or me the ruler?
Either way, this is bad news for jobs, bad news for the climate and bad news humanity.
Winners and losers.
In every autocracy there are winners and losers. In this case the radical right, Republikans, are the winners and the loony left, Democrats, are the losers. It isn't nice, it isn't fair, but that's the reality of life in an autocracy. In this case the autocrat in question is a mean, nasty, ugly, vindictive piece of shit who will try to ruin your life if you disagree with him in any way whatsoever.