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    Since the existing threads along this line are more archival than current, here's a new one for discussing events in the outside world. In a civil and respectful manner please. There's a lot going on out there. Stay safe, look out for each other

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  • fourwindsblow
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    Watts going on?

    Did (you know who) just start a war within his own Nut Shack?

    Nut Shack! NaNa Nut Shack!!

  • Vguy72
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    Stands with the FIFA team....

    .....like he played for them.
    Ego knows no bounds.
    "Get off the podium you old fuck!"

  • proudfoot
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    Idiot-In-Chief

    You speak English real good

    Said to a person whose country has an official language of English

    Sweet phookin cripes. How on Earth did he get back in? W.T.F.

    As I write this, GD perform Ship of Fools.

    Dear Lord who I have lost faith in, deliver us from this nightmare!

  • wave-that-flag
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    Remember Throwing Stones on the Green Peace

    anthology from 1989 or so. 115 degrees in Spain yesterday. Yeah, looks like we broke the climate at this point.

    Things continue to get ugly and brutal out there.

    Peace and Happy 4th y’all! Be safe and kind!

    And ICE and National Guard, with personal respect for individual officers, please get out of California and let our people be. We will not be intimidated….

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    Evil?

    Yes x100000

  • strat-wolf-bean
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    Throwing Stones

    It was somewhat harder to appreciate it "in stream" as it was played so frequently 40 years ago ... But it is a strong song/statement that really resonates here, down the line.

    (forgive if I misplace a word or two):
    Now watch as the ball revolves and the night time falls. And again the hunt begins,
    And again the blood-wind calls.
    By and by, again, the morning sun will rise.
    But, the darkness never goes from some mens' eyes
    It strolls the sidewalks and it roams the streets,
    Staking turf, dividing up meat ...

    What they have done to the people of this country with this bill is pure phucking EVIL.

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    Phuck it

    ”their pants are down their cover is blown” Words that have never been so prescient!

  • fourwindsblow
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    Yup!

    Debt doesn't really matter anyone can see,
    debt really doesn't matter too meeeee!!!

  • Vguy72
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    The big bullshit bill passed....

    ....at least I'll save a couple hundred bucks on fireworks tomorrow.
    Suddenly I'm not in the mood to celebrate.
    It was a nice run.

  • fourwindsblow
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    Testing a new line...

    Denaturalization! Next line Dehumanization ?

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Since the existing threads along this line are more archival than current, here's a new one for discussing events in the outside world. In a civil and respectful manner please. There's a lot going on out there. Stay safe, look out for each other

Tariffs are now in place - prices (up) and access (down) to follow suit accordingly + their D*mn Fingers are all over the 'Loot' now (!!)

See: Forced access to the entire Treasury disbursements system for unelected Elon + same for federal employees' personal records database/s ...
😬😒😡

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The Stupidest Trade War in US History

Rant over, play Dead

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It sounds as though it depends on whether Trump likes Keir Starmer or not, as to whether he inflicts tariffs on the UK. Weird way of conducting foreign policy, basing the decisions you make on whether you like a countries prime minister or not. I suppose Starmer had better find out which chocolates Trump likes before the next meeting - soften the old boy up a bit. Mustn't appear nasty, either - what a job.

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And hopefully he'll come back waving a piece of paper declaring "Peace in our time"!
This is an ideal opportunity for the UK to grow closer to Europe again

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Does anyone know if you have increased the output from the stupidity mines? The stockpiles must be running low.
Listening to A Love Supreme on my old vinyl album at the moment.

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Musk created a stupidity generator so that they never run out.

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You are one sick motherfucker

A pox upon you and all your co-conspirators

You are despicable

History will judge you and your disgusting enablers very harshly

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It's like me becoming the head of the Bar Association

Or making me the chair of the SEC

The Dystopian States of America

Hopefully, elections will still exist in 4 years, and enough people will realize the buffoonery of this..."administration"...and we can have our latter-day "return to normalcy."

We're fuct.

Seriously.
They All just opened the doors to massive erosion of our collative health and have allowed any protective guardrails to be blown away with the breeze.

To reiterate: we're ALL totally fucked.

Sixtus

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Id take PF over this insane POS.
Now I only know him from here,
but after many years, he doesn’t seem
insane, Stooopid, or a HEROIN junkie!
So infinitely more qualified…what’s next, some dangerous schizophrenic to “fix” metal health. Love it, guy who eats road kill, has brain worms, and is a self proclaimed Junkie, (“sober” or not your still a junkie just waiting to slip, no offense to any Wharf Rats etc, but I think they especially get my drift) is going to tell me how to be healthy, and worse, makes decisions that will negatively impact it.
Of course, more sick folks with no more Medicare or H.I, and after they tank the dollar, will equal more legalized stealing of well, everything!

But hey, “my groceries and gas for my gigantic gas cow that I only need to carry a tool belt is too expensive” yeah, just wait..

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Because of all the other awful things happening, one item that is getting ignored is Rubio is down in El Salvador and the dictator there offered use of his prisons for not just criminal migrants (by that I mean migrants who commit murder or something when in the USA), but for American citizens. And Rubio said what an amazing offer that was and we haven't ever had such a kind offer.... They are actually talking about sending American prisoners to El Salvador's supermax prison!!

I will never, ever forgive the voters who voted for that monster and the media who propped him up for the past 10 years. And the Republican senators... don't get me started. Have some pride, for God's sake. You keep letting these terrible, unqualified people into positions of power. Just so you don't get primaried. Can the Maine Democrats finally nominate someone who can beat pearl-clutching Susan Collins. I am 100% certain that a good percentage of these Republican politicians hate Trump privately and what he is doing, but go along so they can get elected.

The shit is going to hit the fan soon, when Musk starts to stop payments, unemployment skyrockets from laying off federal workers, prices go up from the tariffs, and crime goes up due to many conditions, including the firing of thousands of FBI agents (whoever thought Deadheads would be pulling for FBI agents).

Any protests that occur, people better look out for agitators planted by MAGA so martial law can be declared. This country is going to Hell in a Bucket and fast....

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There is a clear sense on here that Trump is a dangerous and ignorant man. Is that view reflected in mainstream America though? Maybe it's too soon.

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..on that Dave is that we are entrenched 50-50 and nothing so far has moved their side to come to their senses yet. No one seems to be polling on that as yet either. Maybe when the groceries go up?
Cheers

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when in convo with pro trump folk online or in person never let them know where you stand and start telling them that musk is going to sink trump's presidency. The windfall of enjoyment you will receive is worth the price of admission. That is where the weakness is. They know it.

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...now appears to be the top of the bill.
What the Flying F??
Seriously all of this talk about invading/taking over other countries (I'm now counting 3: Panama, Greenland, and GAZA?!?!?!) is absolutely terrifying.

We have ZERO business in any of these places beyond whatever we've always been doing;
the cheering for the USA to start steamrolling over other sovereign entities is unequivocally sickening.
As a USA citizen, I want NO PART in these aggressions or stances, let alone the USA actually acting on any of this bullshit.

This posturing makes our country no better than Russia or Nazi Germany who just go and take whatever they want because they think they can.

Full Stop.
This needs to be addressed in a deadly serious way or we're gonna be pulled into catastrophes beyond prediction.

I say Be Well People,
But I know it's hard.

Sixtus

P.S. Forgot about Canada....make that 4

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While I could foresee all the other awful policy garbage before the election, though allowing Musk and his young entourage full access to the government's computer systems and private information was not on my radar, the imperialistic fantasies I could not predict.

All are absolutely delusional and will make the USA a pariah nation across the globe. Ok, the Gaza comments from yesterday were predictable as he has mentioned how it is prime real estate in the past. But the stark terms in which he put it is insane.

One thing to think about in all of this is that he is setting these imperialistic goals while at the same time pulling all international funding. Again, the nation will be a pariah and we will be isolated, with poorer nations looking to China. Our economy is going to take a hit pretty soon as I can see Canada, Mexico and Europe boycotting American products.

I believe there are protests planned across the country tomorrow, but mainstream media is failing again. I have yet to see one article about it, just articles about how nobody is doing anything about the tyranny, while it is really just the limp weakling Republican politicians doing nothing while Democrats try to save the nation.

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If the turd does indeed take over Gaza and turn it into a riviera-style resort, or he invades Panama or Greenland, what will the rest of the world do? They will tell him he is breaking international law, that he must stop immediately and probably lots of other platitudes but I very much doubt that any meaningful action would be taken. Saying he's a naughty boy is hardly likely to cause him to back off. Pathetic.

... connective human feelings of any sort - see the definition of Narcissistic Sociopath - you think you can impose this stuff on people with impunity. So all of the various malignant acts you see are flowing outward from there.

I second Sixtus' vibe: NOT in my NAME !

Whether it's here at home, or abroad, all this stuff abrogates every decent value and (and in many cases, already) law that this country has ever had, or has professed to have had.

People put him back in
They WANT this country to become a dystopian enclave. (Actually, we are already there.)

Those who voted for DT: Fuck you and damn you.
Those who didn't bother to vote: Fuck you, damn you, and go to hell.

This is obviously where we would wind up if DT got back into the WH. People either wanted the USA to descend into utter madness or were so FUCKING STUPID that they couldn't see it.

Heaven help us all (although, the election and a lot of personal reflection has put my faith on long-term hiatus.)

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is a complete mockery of the people from our country who died and got wrecked in WWII defeating fascism.

not a surprise for DT and pals to promote that mockery.

when DT insulted John McCain...grr. (not WWII, but you know what I mean. hopefully.)

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Still a total idiot but...
some are saying he will legalize cannabis federally.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Cheers

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Nazi Punks FO

everything old is new again

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The Amerikan Reich continues to grow

I truly cannot believe this is what people wanted

This is REALLY what you wanted?

You are one sick bunch

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there is no bottom with the potential destructive behavior of this tragically flawed individual.

Speaking as a therapist (who worked 44 years in the field), the Tangerine Mussolini exhibits all the symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and to hope for any mitigating humane decisions or reasoned actions by this individual is folly. His status as a convicted felon reflects a lifetime of such maladaptive behavior.

There is no cure for a personality disorder, only with consistent and disciplined management by a highly motivated individual can decrease their destructive and malignant actions. The Narcissistic Personality Disordered individual exhibits a persistent pattern of grandiose sense of self-importance, excessive need for admiration, view themselves as brilliant and displayed entitlement in all facets of life. These individuals continually prey upon all family, friends, and any society members unfortunate enough to be in their orbit.

These individuals do not think, react, or have the full range of emotional responses as us 'normals' (such as experiencing empathy, recognize cause and effect, impulse control, etc.). They simply do not possess that 'chip' and in fact, many times the personality disordered client complained to me "why should I care about anyone else? Then I would have to feel bad about myself. And that would get in the way of me getting what I want." Tragic at all levels.

As Betty Davis said "fasten your seatbelts, we are in for a bumpy ride."

"Teachers open the door, but you must enter by yourself."

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I see that Google have acquiesced to the turd's executive order. They have added the name "Gulf of America" to the Gulf of Mexico on Google Maps.

In various parts of the planet there is a Black Sea, a White Sea, a Red Sea and Yellow Sea. Maybe he should have renamed the Gulf of Mexico the Orange Sea. Missed chance.

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And they banned an AP reporter from the White House because the AP won't call the Gulf of Mexico what they want us to call it.

I laid awake in bed for awhile in the middle of the night last night pondering the sad fact that a lot of Americans like what Musk and Trump are doing. By the end of the year, the tariff situation on top of higher unemployment due to the firing of federal employees and fewer contractors getting $ from the federal government, will drop the USA into a recession. That should hopefully wake up some folks.

Democrats need to wake up and figure out how the GOP messages so effectively and go out and get the message out that government is not necessarily the bad guy. Go on FOX entertainment and give them facts-- Trump flat out lies about FEMA's response to the NC floods. Get out there with the facts and a megahorn and start changing some minds.

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on fox website reading comments. Call Jim Jones the disciples are ready for his special kool aid mix. I try to spend small amounts of time there for my mind starts numbing from the first second. That being said whatever sir orange says is truth. One Person was so convinced he who shall not be named never had to subsidize farmers in his first term. Stick a fork in him turn over he is done.

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....can't handle more than a few minutes of it.
You think that's bad? Try visiting the conservative sub on reddit. Oh boy. The infighting in there is on another level. "You're not a TRUE conservative. You're a RINO." "Eff off dude. You don't even know me." "I know enough!" Etc, etc.

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this be the beginning
of the capitulation to
putin / russia

all the lives lost
do they really matter at all?

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And we all are in the slippery slope careening toward the takeover of America by the Radical Capitalist Extremists, ultra-right billionaires, and Christian Nationalists as their Orange Mussolini implements the Heritage Foundation's long planed defunding of government services, conversion to abject cronyism, and initiate a constitutional crisis.

And yes, Proudfoot, 90% of the farmers (in Nebraska) voted orange, and they will be "rewarded" for their loyalty by deletion of farm subsides. Famous capitalist Howard Hughes was asked 'how much more money do you need to be happy?' and he replied "the next dollar." The Orange Mussolini is only the face of a much deeper and insidious group (see above) operating with impunity to gain more control and wealth by increasing repression.

"“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - George Orwell 1984

"You see the hut, yet you ask 'where should I go for shelter?"

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On the money, Oro 1
Each day is more grotesque ... On purpose.

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.... but look everyday.

What I hate is the constant harping by Dems and talking heads is the talk about "the message". How they need a new message to get thru.

A new message will not work on stupid. Stupid never admits it wrong or has shame. Then I hear everyone that voted for him isn't stupid. They ALL don't have to be. Only a small percent has to be. Are you telling me 20% of America (or the world) is not stupid?

Stupid needs to touch the paint, even though the signs clearly says "WET PAINT". Stupid needs to touch something out of the stove to check if it's hot, though it's been in the oven for 2 hours! Stupid can't name 3 branches of government, but tell you the score from the world series in 62 and who the last at bat was.

Until the shit hits depression era levels nothing will change AND when it hits that level you will not find a orange asshole supporter. They will all be "I didn't vote for him".

The saddest part is, in America we have the ability to fix with the next election, we have the power to stop now. But that will take crooked republicans voting against this shit and not approving all his nominations.

Also on the messaging front/policy front. Over 50% of voters are women and yet we can't protect abortion rights. Where are the women, this is a woman's issue and men should shut the fuck up. On the flip side if they were coming down the street "forcing" people to have abortions, I'd be against that.

It's going to be a rough ride indeed.

Hope I live long enough to see asshole orange die a miserable death.

I'm sorry was that too mean!

you are right on the money

Speaking of money, all the cuts to federal offices and jobs (unemployment is really good for the economy, you know)...then I see that the current admin will spend $400 million on armored Teslas.

W
T
F

I cut-and-pasted Oro's 1984 quote and made a mini-poster of it and put it on the wall outside my classroom.

Also, we got an email today about what to do if ICE shows up at the school.

Fascist swine.

Stay strong, y'all, and call out the BS when it appears.