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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • JimInMD
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    Kezar is the pick of (yester) Today?

    Day late and a dollar short, but I will get to it when I road trip this weekend.

  • DeadVikes
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    Kezar

    Never gets old.

    And the HCS Box is number 1 at my house.

    The new box looks sweet.

  • strat-wolf-bean
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    Love Kezar

    ... I will spin that this weekend 👍

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    Super excited for #54 and another fine 73 show added to the collection. Since 73 is on my brain, might as well que up 5/26/73. Another upper echelon show from 73.

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    Been spinning parts of this over (and over) the last few days midst other activities and varying moods. Not a just exactly perfect recording by Bear (we're spoiled nowadays cause in the old days we would have killed for this) but yeah its a real solid '72 show which right there is all you really need to know if you love licorice. Of course would really like to have an official release visit the house next door (9/10) but it has the David Crosby guest appearance which complicates things (though surely that can be worked out, right PTB?) Every once in awhile I'll be listening to a release and some unusual passage will stand out and I can picture Dave dialed in and blown away and thinking "we got to release this!!" Whether that's really the case I don't know of course but for me here its that theme that Garcia introduces at the 24 minute mark of the Other One. Very cool! Does anybody recognize it, is he quoting some song, or is it just pure Jerry? And yeah Disc 3 has a He's Gone > Trucking > Other One and that Other One is almost 35 minutes long with 2!! Phil thunder "intros" and the whole sequence is typically raucous and excellent for that great era. Good to come back to this one and give it some time on the Senns.

    And taking a step back I love 8/25/72 - DaP24 - wherein our hero Bobby Weir has eaten roses for lunch. At the time of release some folks were expecting the night before - a known classic - I seem to remember that Bolo dropped a clue right before the release of this one that it was a Dewzy but he got unintentionally head faked by DL who had relayed that it was 2 before Veneta which Bolo interpreted as 2 shows before but DL meant 2 calendar days before. I'm hoping we'll see a whole lot more from that BCT run (like all of it!) - "mini" box that up along with the August 1971 shows too!!

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    Dave's 46

    Going back for that today.
    Love the Boulder, CO cuts on the bonus disc.
    I think my older sister went to that one.

    Yeah DV, I was rolling in it then, lol. Made sure I had no classes Tuesday & Thursdays that spring semester and skied every week, worked at night, partied daily. By fall I had quit school, changed to a daytime job for $5.25/hr. and ended up hating it and my roommates were getting stale so I picked up and moved to the mountains where wages were more like $4.25 but got back in school at Western State (bumper sticker was "Ski Western State and get a degree in your spare time"), night job in a restaurant, cheap rent in a mansion, and made new friends who got me into the backcountry ski scene. Never looked back on the city. Had ups & downs on wages but didn't break out of that range until the '90s either. So stay in school kids, or train for a trade!
    Looking back, I would have to say getting on the bus in '78 changed my perspective for the better back then.
    Cheers

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    Wow, $9. That is great..

    And making $5 an hour plus tips back in 78, that was good money. I don't think I hit $5 an hour until my college days in the early 90s.

    How much does it cost to see Dead and Co now? Quite a bit.

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    August '78 ticket ticket says $8.25 + $0.75 some sort of fee. And as I recall I was earning the princely sum of $5.00/hour + tips as a pizza delivery manager/driver at the time while still pretending to be taking classes at C.S.U. and thinking, "Why do I need college? I have a good job (free dinner!), a bag of fine Columbian, a good stereo, some decent skis, and a VW bug to get me there. All a guy needs, right?". Ah, those were the days.
    Cheers

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    I'll spin this show today. Last I did, I thought it was top notch!!

    I was just praising 8/25/72 on the what are you listening to page.

    The jams from 1972 are absolutely epic!!

    Rock on, gang

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    That is great Firstshow!

    Pretty sweet you saw the first one live in August at Redrocks. What a great summer for you in 78.
    Do you remember how much you spent on tickets for these fantastic shows?

    Love this release but also have mixed feelings about it as because they releasesd it, I don't think they will ever release the full Winterland October 78 run. My two cents, release the whole run, so good and so different from the Spring and yes, it incorporates the Shakedown Street songs so I am a bit biased.

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Going with the vinyl version.

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thanks for sharing this

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AOTS-50th bonus disc.

Highly recommended……

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5/20/73 going now from the fabulous Here Comes Sunshine Box. What a box.

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A day late and a dollar short, but I'm in.

It will give me something to do while I shovel my car and truck out... It's a winter wonderland here, at least for the next couple of weeks.

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Good to hear Jim.

Yes, crazy snow across the country. It missed us. We are too far North. Do you have a blower?

Love this show. A three set bonanza .Such a great Truckin and then the Jam out of Truckin.

Be well.

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Manual labor here. It's ok though, it gets me out and keeps me honest. Plus, gives me some alone listening time and allows some of the better thinking I get to do.

1973...(A Deadhead I should Turn To Be)

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I work about 4 blocks from Jimi Hendrix Memorial Park in Seattle.

Why oh why did he have to die so young.

Another case of injustice that flourishes in this world.

Reading John Purcell's excellent collection of essays on Charlie Parker " Now's The Time" made me think slightly differently about this. Regarding Parker, he describes the events of his life as being compressed in time so that he was essentially living at twice the ordinary speed. If he hadn't lived an died the way he did, he may not have been the man he was- and the same would go for Jimi Hendrix.
In some ways it makes me feel sadder when someone who hardly anybody knows dies young. Someone who never had the chance to find out what they could do.

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Jim, we need a pick.

I am trying to decide on where to go today.

Any suggestions?

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Been using my leaf blower for the light fluffy stuff.

DV,
I’m finishing up 9-24-76.

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Dave's #4, sounds like a good idea Conekid.
Funny, I qued up the Cobo show today from 30 Trips.
Still like Dave's 4 better. Haven't listened to the Cincinnati show so it should be interesting when we get it.

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More 76 coming our way.

9-25-76 playing now.

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Been busy the last couple of days. How about 2/22/74 tomorrow? It's a 3-set wonder yet somehow slides under the radar for reasons unknown.

Part of this show was released as the 2022 bonus disc so we might not see the full show get the full Norman treatment. I scratch my head trying to understand why this one was only partially released, especially as a bonus disc. 2/22 deserved the complete show, completely remastered treatment, the entire run should have been a box set.

Anyway, first show of the year and a month shy of the first show using the complete wall of sound. It's worth a listen.

In the meantime, I will start off 9/24/76 in the hot tub tonight. The moon is almost full, and Venus is high and bright.

That's a show that's slipped below my radar. I'll have a dig round later and see what I've got. Yesterday I listened to 2/23 and as I type China Cat - Rider from 2/24 is playing - and sounding really, really good. Both shows are top draw.

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Hey, it looks like two of my posts were deleted. Not sure why?

Anyway, yes, sounds good Jim . Started 2/22/74 today and will finish it up tomorrow. That US Blues was a little rough around the edges to start the show. Two days later it sounded much better.

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I enjoyed this show. There's something about Jerry's tone in this period that speaks to me.

Lots of good GD running through this house lately. If nothing else, it makes great snow shoveling music.

I had to get a second vehicle as I have a 16-year-old climbing through the ranks. Plus, he's running my truck into the ground with all the travelling sports, etc. I've had it for almost a month and just now discovered it as a CD player. So all the non GD CDs I have that I had not yet ripped to the digital world are getting some much needed love. Happy Day.

(yes, I occasionally listen to other bands besides JGB and Old and in the Way)

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Jim, I hear you. My fifteen year old daughter will be 16 soon. Driving has to improve.

Was thinking of 4/3/90 from the Omni and the glorious Spring 90 II box set.

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Sounds good. I haven't hit this in awhile either

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Hey rockers!!!

Pick Of The Day Trifecta:

Three separate highways intersect at a place no reasonable person would ever want to go….

January 17, 1968 Carousel Ballroom, San Francisco. Starting as the El Patio Ballroom, eventually to morph into the Fillmore West, a “social/musical laboratory experiment" ostensibly run as a collective by several San Fran bands. The six month run was opened by the Dead with a blast of wonderful primal psychedelia, including, apparently, the first live version of China Cat Sunflower. Very good recordings circulate, give it a listen!

January 17, 1969 Civic Auditorium, Santa Barbara, California. Short on paper, long on music. Big jams and a little bit of grease. Short nice Star, driven Eleven, raucous Other One. And while the Hartbeats might have done it a couple of times previously, this appears to be the first “full Grateful Dead” version of Cosmic Charlie. Typical early 1969 gooey goodness!!

January 17, 1970 OSU, Corvallis, Oregon. An overlooked and underappreciated show. The band starts out with a more song-oriented approach, showcasing some Workingman’s material, before closing out with the “typical big jam sequence” Star/Saint/Eleven/Light. This probably doesn’t require a lot of explanation………..

The recordings of each show have some sonic issues, cuts and edits seemingly common for many audio artifacts of this era. Perhaps the banana boxes contain “new & improved” copies????

Rock on!!!

Doc
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Went to pull 4/3/90 from the box, and decided to grab all 3 shows of the run.
I have the house to myself this weekend, so this will be big fun!!

I'll report back

Rock on, gang

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Listened last night per your suggestions.

Now playing 10-24-71 which Doc probably suggested at some point in the past.
It’s a Miller from 2010 but doesn’t have an ID number.

I have TB’s of torrents but most haven’t been integrated into my collection yet. It’s a slow process. Did a batch last weekend, going to do more this weekend.
It takes time when there are multiple copies of a show and I have to give a brief listen to each to decide which copy to put into the collection. I also rename all the files so that they have the date and song name, and sort by chronological order. Many of the older files don’t have song names included, but files from the last several years usually do.

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I can see that if they put these out as a box set they’ll probably package them in an outsized banana shaped container to try for another award. This will double the price of the boxset when postage and taxes are added for European fans. I can’t wait.

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Nice trio!
Heard em all including just recently 1/17/70.
Nice sequence, maybe a SS flub? Oh, and I think a sweet Masons?
Can’t go wrong with any of these!

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Re packaging: keep it simple

You are correct, sir

I'll take paper envelopes. Just release the music, please, PTB

and keep our overseas brethren and sistren in mind.

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Good to see some old faces .

The sound quality for these shows is so good.
Shakedown, Bucket Sugaree to start the show had me moving.
Great second set with that Estimated Scarlet, Crazy Fingers Playing, oh yes. I will take you home out of space always make me a little sad thinking of Brent. Fun great sounding show.

More please.

Think I will follow your lead Johnathan and go back and hit 4/1/90 next. Haven't listened to this show in a really long time.
Be well out there and it looks like next week for that seaside chat?

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A new Miller from 4-9-24. No ID number. I thought they were all supposed to have ID numbers.

I added 40 new copies of shows to the collection yesterday, most of them Millers. Many of them are sonic upgrades of shows I already had.
Add those to the 17 shows I did last weekend and I have a lot to listen to while I await the arrival of DaP53.
The shows I added span 66-74 and 84-94, so a lot of variety.

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Finished up the Omni spring 90 run this afternoon. All 3 shows have plenty to offer

So much wonderful music has been released, and I believe a bunch more on the way!!

I'm gonna go spend some time with Dave's #18, 7/17/76, in anticipation for #53

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I know. . . Sheesh. . .

How about:
Happy MLK Day!
Go Ohio State & Notre Dame!

Maybe itsa good time to revisit:

01/20/68- Eureka Municipal Auditorium - Eureka, CA (RT2.2 bonus)
01/20/79- Shea's Theater - Buffalo, NY (Oro's first show!)

And, oh yeah, "Garcia" was released on this date in 1972.

Otherwise, just another any-ole-day, right? Onward.

Those are good choices Jeff.

Decided to go with 4/20/84 today. Dave's #35.
The only 84 show released so far.

So many good years out there to keep exploring.

Oh and by the way, love the picture with you and Phil. I mean come on, really cool Jeff!

And 4/1/90 is another barnbunner. Still can't get over how good the sound quality is.

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I didn't catch this one. Missed it by that much.

I think it was either this Philly or the Spectrum release from '83 that caught Oro's attention when rummaging through the entire tour in order.

I think I'm taking a half day and getting in some downhill then cross country skiing. If it's on my device, I will hit it. High energy GD helps with the up hill sections, which it seems you spend 95% of your time huffing and puffing your way up. The trippy jazzy stuff can get you lost in the woods if your not too careful.

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Nice Jim. Both cross country and downhill. That is great.

Dave's #35. I like this release. Also like the bonus tracks.

Thinking about a E72 show from the big box today. Not sure which one. Not the Lyceum shows or the W Germany shows. Will have to poke around.

Edit. Decided to go with 5/4/72 Paris.
Any takers?

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A brief synopsis of spring 83 since y’all mentioned it, here and elsewhere discussing 4/16&17/83…
Thought they started out nicely on 4/9/83
Better on 4/10, 4/12 I have a very “High” bias. Maybe not quite RJ, but good, cool show and I believe first NFA end/encore fade etc, which was pretty mind blowing at the time in the first row, first time tripping at a show! First H/S/F too! 4/13 ok,but…Crotchfester is a hot mess like many. Another first row romp. Good show but perhaps a tad sloppy occasionally? Of course Dave released the Bob Star (can still picture looking up at Bob and wondering WTH?) so guessing we won’t see that one…4/16 I don’t think I hit at the time, but like BC etc, had good crispy tapes of 4/16 second, and all of 4/17, but someone scarfed my 4/17 second set!
Bastardo! But like recent comments, their more hot but touches of slop. BITD day when we got em, like BC, we’re quite a enamored, but more recent comparisons have me less enthused. But you can’t dismiss the fun factor. Yes Love The One is all,over, obviously not rehearsed, but it’s such a gas, another hot mess, and for me the highlight was always Phil, he just crushes! (especially with the tape quality BITD on our PA system stereo lol: 2 JBL 15”, 1 12” JBL, and a high/tweeter per side, powerd by three way McIntosh and/or Crown power, my poor rents, man I miss them : (
So fun shows, but I didn’t think critically/objectively they hung with the top dogs? 4/19 I don’t recall, but marked it ok, but…certainly didn’t hang with 4/20/83, which was perhaps the top dog of the tour? First night of New Haven was good too, but perhaps a step behind Providence. 4/23 & 25 were ok, but…, and yeah, 4/26/83, Dave’s 39 was a good solid show, with a good Healy mix that I really dug. Not sure it was the tour top dog, but arguably one of the top few.
So recommendations for spring 83 sans Dave 39:
4/9, 4/10, 4/12, 4/22, and mos def 4/20! Smoke em if ya got em!
Onward!

Hey Jim, I hear skiing is a lot easier if you ride the lift up ; ) JK

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Hey, rockers!!!

Pick of the day: St Louis February 2, 1970

Back in the distant past of taping, a small soundboard chunk of this circulated, and was cherished. I believe the Cumberland and most of the big jam, including the very fine Dark Star. It brings back fond and funny memories……….

In my big taping daze, around 1980-1981, a young deadhead I knew in an adjacent town (Lincoln, Massachusetts) hosted a high school radio program where he played lots of live Dead on Sunday mornings. He invited me on and this Star was one of the things I brought with me. In the middle of it, one of his friends—who had just woken up and tuned in----called in and said, “What the hell is THAT?!!!”. LOL, mind blown, that’s how fine that Dark Star is.

A very interesting example of the Dead’s continual early evolution. It appears that this was a “rediscovered/returned tapes” deal that led to its official release in May 2013, nicely coupled with the Fillmore shows of December 20 and 21, 1969. This is another underrated and underappreciated official release. Dust it off and revisit it…………

Sweet!!!

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P.S. My wife's heroic struggle with the evil that is cancer is now over. Death borders upon our birth, and our cradle stands in the grave. Death is not extinguishing the light, it is only putting out the lamp because the dawn has come......

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Our sincerest condolences from our house to yours. All our love to you and your family.
Doug C.

Sorry about your wife. I wish there were magical words to be said that make it better, but alas......

Deepest sorrow from my family to yours.

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So sorry to hear about your loss Doc.

Our deepest condolences to you and your family.

Will get Dave's #6 going today.

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Sorry Doc.
Are there ever really any proper words to describe such loss…
May the four winds…

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Losing a family member is tough. Hopefully the passage of time will ease your sadness.

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Never met you in person, nor Mrs. Doc.

But this band and board has brought us together, nonetheless

Deepest empathy to you and your family

:_(((

... Wishing you the very best going forward.

Although we never met, it seems we were at quite a few of the same shows - East Coast, mid to late-ish 80s time period (late '84 - spring '85 through mid '88 Oxford Plains). I always enjoy your contributions here, and the amazing way you share your love of the band.

Shine on, Keep on Shining!

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So sorry, I can't imagine how tough that must be.

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Just catching up Doc, and am so sad to read of your wife's passing. It can't have been easy, but I get the feeling the two of you were able to finish your Dance together with love and class and honesty. Maybe even a smile or laugh every now and then in spite of the tears. You/y'all are an inspiration. Thank you for sharing. Onward brother.

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Decided to revisit this show yesterday and finished it this morning. Being one of the few 1980 shows officially released as Download Series #7. Listen to it often and always makes me want more 1980. I think there are other great shows from this year in particular Lewiston, which I know some of you lucky folks were at.
May have to polk around a bit with some of these other shows in August.

Will Dave ever get back to 1980? I think it would be a good idea. Last 1980 show released was in 2013!

Enjoy your Super Bowl Sunday weekend out there.

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Try 9/2/80, it’s a beauty eh!

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Will check it out OB.

You were at this show, correct?