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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • July 25, 2021 - 6:48pm
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    12/17/78

    There is a cut at the end of the tape rendering Sugar Magnolia and the encore Johnny B Goode in AUD sound. This show is a nice example of the post-Egypt '78 sound. Overshadowed I suppose by the slightly more appreciated 12-16 and 12-19 (both also available only in AUD sound if memory serves). I like 12-12, too. We already listened to that here. Nice board of that. Wasn't Garcia jamming on the Bean in some of these December shows? At least the Nashville show I think. I gotta tune into 12-28 Golden Hall again sometime soon. Nice board of that around (and around) too.

  • July 25, 2021 - 5:32pm
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    Betty

    She was definitely part of the paid Grateful Dead staff. Had different jobs or responsibilities through out the years and after Rex died. I think it ended after an issue with Brent in the early eighties.

    However I think it is true that she was not paid for recordings she made with her own equipment. I believe the ABCD LLC transaction kicked some money her way, however, I have no idea how much.

    Still planning on getting to 12/17.

  • July 25, 2021 - 4:57pm
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    They didn't pay her? I didn't think she was getting much.. plus she had to pay for her own tapes, but for free?

    Say it wasn't so!!

  • July 25, 2021 - 7:53am
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    Jim & Betty

    I thought they didn't stop letting her record shows as much as she couldn't afford to do it for free any longer.

  • July 25, 2021 - 7:50am
    DeadVikes
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    12/17/78

    Let's do it.

  • July 25, 2021 - 6:44am
    JimInMD
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    So 12/17 today?

    I'll take the plunge. Another new one for me...

  • July 24, 2021 - 7:50pm
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    Not too bad either with that Shakedown out of an Ollin Arageed Space. Some funny banter during the show about a moat or alligator pit too somewhere in the first set. There's a radio interview Weir does adjacent to this show that's up on the archive. I'd say at least it's a worthwhile juxtaposition with 4-11. Jacksonville 4-8 is interesting, too with that butter Betty sound. Some of my best tapes BITD.

  • July 24, 2021 - 4:16pm
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    Yowsa!
    Great Pick!
    Not familiar enough with this tour to pick a “best” but this bad boy outshines the bits of 4/18 I’ve heard, and 4/16, but still think I’m partial to 4/15, perhaps just because of that one caught me by surprise and knocked me off my feet?
    This tour (April 78) is definitely my new favorite hardly explored niche.
    And man, what a amazing sounding show! Not too much of that low mid bass/drums that sometimes plagues Mickey Godchaux Band occasionally (imho). Nit pick would be it gets a little thin near the end as they get LOUD...but that’s actually probably “accurate” for that era.
    Kudos again to Miss Betty! Wow!

    Did the first of the 6/86 Greek as it got the PF seal of goodness. Another great surprise, gonna have to finish that run off...

    Murphy’s damn law, every time!
    I’ve been getting all kinds of (new to me, or replacing copies with actual) music and several shows cued up on Relisten, but no damn time! Uuugghhh, this always happens lol. I know, good problem to have.

    Oh, and currently spinning this Dave McMurray disc that just arrived...SWEET!

    Hopefully new Dave’s next week, and RT 2.2 that I’ve been waiting on big time since I passed it up back when, idiot!
    So can’t wait for that one to drop as I’ve never heard it!
    Onward!

    Oh, PS, a big how do to Bluecrow, KCJ, Exile, and many others on the Box thread, and of course our spiritual Scout Master, GOGD! Awesome how many “ir-regulars” have popped up recently...glad to see ya all!
    Hope everyone stays safe/well as things are getting Stranger again...

  • July 23, 2021 - 7:21pm
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    Yes Jim. To my ears this might be the best April 78 show! Sound quality is A++. Performance is outstanding. For those of you that have never listened to this show check it out. I won't ruin it for you.

    Still no word on #39. Given the latest news, I am hoping for a 1980 release. 🤠

  • July 23, 2021 - 11:00am
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    4/11 was Sweet

    Thanks DVikes.. These April shows sound so good.. why, oh why.. did they let Ms. Cantor-Jackson stop recording these shows???

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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I guess I am the opposite. If I eat enough.. by the time I come down you can list the house as new. I get into details like that..

Stated another way, nobody likes housework, but if you have to do it.. it numbs the pain quite nicely. ...and it had to get done.

Dennis.. at the very least hit up the Let It Grow, and the second set. A fun show that I had never heard before. Also, I will shoot you some pictures tonight when I get back..

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Nice, but my vote for GREATEST LET IT GROW goes to 12/31/85, the NYE show, that Let it Grow is a monster. Jerry is on fire seems uncontainable. Bobby rhythms are front and center in my copy,,,, Brent's keys are anything but "plinky" to me and the drummers sound like they've taken a blackjack to the skins. GREATEST 4 Sure!!

But 83,,,, great year. A couple of weeks b4 at the Meadowlands (4/16/83) has the greatest LL Rain at about the 7 minute mark Jerry is on fire, I don't think he could squeeze anymore notes into a measure. Bobby vocals are right there. My fave!!!!

On the subject of Let it Grow since you are the canoe man,,,,, sorry kayaking man,,,, I always visualize Let it Grow as a great example of moving from running the rapids (at incredible speeds) and spilling into mirror smooth water. Do you find Let it Grow a great kayak song?

I will definitely check that one out.

Yes.. I have definitely listened to hot LIG's when hitting the harder stuff. Sometimes music helps me get into a groove, into the flow and helps with timing and muscle memory. ..but pick the wrong music and it can work against you. No more scary dark stars on really difficult stuff with consequences.. bad trip music can manifest itself into upside-downness in a hurry. Which is bad.

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Jim, I am a day late but I am going back to Dave's #35, 4/20/84. This show continues to get better to my ears after each listen, so I am looking forward to it.

Funny how I don't come 'round here no more. I'm a binge drinker personality, I suppose.

JimInMD:
I'm in for 12/31/85. One I've had on cassette for years. Unfortunately Let It Grow did not leave such an indelible mark on my memory... or well, never mind... Definitely looking forward to revisiting it based on Dennis' assessment. Interesting how things can just pass you by sometimes. My main memory of 12/31/85 is Ken Kesey on the FM, or wherever it was that my copy was dubbed from. Man, to me, this show is all about that Kesey intro. Gold.

DeadVikes:
I go back to the 4/20/85 show a lot, too. I'd never heard it until it came up as pick of the day earlier this year, but that was definitely a find for me. Thanks, everyone!

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that Baltimore show from March '73 is super fantastic cool. release it dave.

that Shakedown opener from 4/26/83 is top shelf.

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12/31/85

Thanks for giving me an excuse to break out this old familiar that hasn't had a listen in a while.

Out of the gate like a rocket with Touch ...just a touch too fast.

Everybody takes a deep breath and, somewhat ironically, they take Tons of Steel at a much more sensible pace. Sounds like Brent's playing a DX-7. Bobby seems to give a little off-mic HAA! just before the guitar solo.

CC Rider keeps it on a slow boil until Brent stokes the flames with his B3 during the second round of solos. I love the guy to death, but I've never really been able to buy Bobby as a blues man, despite his apprenticeship to Pig, but this thing is really escalates into a resounding climax. Hot stuff.

Dupree's is a cool song to have back, but they probably should have thought about doing it in a different key 'cause it's totally out of Jerry's vocal range at this point.

Cassidy. Love this tune. Feels more like a Brent lead vocal as Bobby is almost rapping it, while Brent carries the melody. Jam feels good with the drummers going off as usual, but it feels more like a warm up, seeming to end rather quickly.

Brown Eyed Women, man, this is like all time hall-of-fame level piece of songwriting and it's criminal that this isn't well-known outside of Dead circles. I love the "drink down a bottle and you're ready to kill" line, but "the bottle was dusty but the liquor was clean"? just sheer brilliance. One vivid image after another.

Not sure if the rhythm section listened to Bobby's admonitions about getting too busy before Let It Grow. It's all full of 16s and marching rudiments. Phil's takin' it kinda easy, but it's hard to say if he should really be lumped in with the rhythm section. Jer tears into that first solo. You can really hear the trumpet influenced lines he's playing even without the MIDI. The interplay between Jerry and Bobby during the full-on jam is such a web of strings and inversions, they're blending into a two headed, 12 stringed southwestern psychedelic beast. Behind them the percussionists flow like a gurgling stream with Bent's synth weaving in and out of their groove. They just fall into the return melody without ever actually going into full unison, but rising toward it like sunshine into the cool desert air.

Ahhh, the Father Guido Sarducci and Ken Kesey countdown. I don't know how many time's I've heard this, but it still cracks me up to this day. "It's a representation of the U.S.S. Miramack!" "It's an enormous Perry Como!" "It's Rasputin, FDR, and Eric Clapton!" "That's not Eric Clapton." Poor Guido. "I'm outa here" lol.

I love Bobby's little Blues Brothers shtick during Midnight Hour, and he sounds genuinely hurt when Phil later welcomes the home audience when he's just done it twice!

I let Sugaree and Man Smart Woman Smarter go by as I was typing, but basically more good stuff

Ship of Fools seems like a tune that just doesn't get enough plays.

Compact Playin'. They seem to be stacking the set, but at the same time also keeping an eye on the clock for the broadcast, or something. The second of two hot Bobby jams that we just get a taste of. Was that a hint of guitar synth?

Certainly not complaining about this Terrapin getting plenty of room. They nail it. A nice, long drums/space jam follows on.

Bobby's in a talky mood, making rare comment about the ragged Truckin'.

Black Peter has a relatively brisk shuffle going on. I like this one best as a dirge, but they've got a lotta NFA and Throwin' Stones ahead of them, I guess. Nice interplay between Brent and Bobby's vocals. At some points it the two songs become pretty much indistinguishable.

My tape has Mississippi Half Step, and the "We want Phil" "You can't have him" Tom Thumb from 6/29/86 Alpine Valley as filler, and then Box of Rain from RFK 7/7/86 as filler. Talk about a couple of infamous heat wave gigs. These selections reveal nothing of the apparent travails.

"If you're looking to get silly, you came to the right place!" Indeed.

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Gave 12/31/85 a whirl while working yesterday. Unfortunately got a call during LIG, so I’ll need to hit that again.
Hell, really need to do the whole thing again...wasn’t this one on pay for view BITD?

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After actually looking at 12/31/85, my tape is clearly labelled "FM", but that doesn't necessarily mean it's labelled correctly. ;) Bobby (and Phil) shout out to both the radio and TV audience at various times during the show, so it might have been PPV, or just on Bay Area public access maybe. lol.

Anybody up for 5/3/72 next? Did we already already do this last month while I wasn't paying attention?

Just got my Olympia Theater Record Store Day vinyl. Despite this being the Donna tripping under the piano show, I'm gonna get my exercise tonight gettin' up and down to flip the record. smh. lol. What can I say? I'm a vinyl junkie. Didn't even hafta order it from overseas. Wish I could post pics. It's a thing a beauty. The Euro72 box being made of unobtanium, this'll hafta do.

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Start with white walls , in a room not the tires. Eat 500 micrograms of LSD. It really works swell .
It also brings out the 3D.
This is strictly a joke. Micro-dosing is a buzz phrase for a reason.

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like my earth paints - Morrison, Chinle, Kayenta, Moenkopi

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My last several posts on the DaP38 page have been blocked because I tried to post a ‘connection’ (the ‘L’ word has been banned) to the list of returned reels.

Then I come here and there are still posts that can be called that greasy red meat in a can from Hormel (I suspect that the actual word has also been banned).

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Still need to rehit 12/31/85. Think this is the year my buddy had a PPV party and we brought my big stereo over to his house so had like three or four rooms with TVs and some kind of sound going, with different vibes in different rooms.
Of course we hung out in the serious room, with the big system and full immersion lol, FREAKS!
Or was it 84?

Did hit up DaP 37 again, man I really dig that one. Really need to hear more of that spring tour...
Hit DaP 38 bonus disc on Wednesday. Played/enjoyed the actual disc and didn’t turn it up too much so not as distracted by the distortion noise...

Might try to read today so maybe no tunes : (
Jon Evison, my favorite “newer” author, and a cool dude (have had the pleasure of hanging with him a couple times), has a new book out: Legends of the North Cascades. New books by favorite authors is perhaps as good as new Dead releases!

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I bought my last tickets for my last Grateful Dead concerts (Salt Lake City , February 1995) from school teachers from Tuba City. Blue Crow, I know all those places you mentioned intimately. And Morrison must mean Red Rocks. Saw the Dead there six times, 1984 and 1985. We’ve probably crossed trails many times.
And I used to think spam was just a canned meat product.
I do love Canned Heat though. Alan (Blind Owl) Wilson, Bob (the Bear) Hite, Larry (the mole) Taylor, Henry Vestine, Harvey Mandel, and “Fito” de la Parra.
They were NOT just another band from L.A.

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Strider - all towns i know and all share a name with a geological formation - some of the towns are type localities for the geology and some are not exactly so it seems. all have clays that can made into paint (or so i believe at least as to Moenkopi - we thought some nice pale yellow clay was from that formation.) And all beautiful as "painted earth" as exposed on the surface here and there in the west. There's the Painted Desert and a whole lot more painted desert. I had forgotten that the Morrison Formation, which locally is exposed just north of here (and big deal in terms of local geology and archaeology, a lithic and clay source) was named for Morrison, CO, all the way over on the front range and aka the home of Red Rocks! Saw the'87 shows there. You landed in the SW earlier than I but no doubt our paths have crossed. almost 25 in UT and work has had me spend a lot of time down in NM the last 10 years.
Fruit and nut update. All the peaches dropped, which was really sad especially since I thought it would be a bumper crop. guessing because we had some unusually cold mornings in mid-May, right at freezing and really late for those temps in spring. Funny thing though - I do have some apricots (just ripening now) and almonds (not quite yet), both of which bloom before peaches and are more susceptible to cold!! So yes some almonds, bro, this year. Ate a few raw the last time, good, and left the rest for my brothers the scrub jays. They loved them. They would pick out the nut, fly it to a nearby russian olive, and peck it open to get the seed. Stay cool down there.

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Two weeks ago the low temperature at dawn was 47 degrees, the high by early afternoon was 100 degrees. We only get 50 degree plus temperature changes in the same day a few days a year.
Something about red sandstone is really pleasing to the eyes. And soul. If you’re ever in Gallup area I designed, engineered and helped build the trail to the top of Pyramid Rock in Red Rock Park. The Garcia guitar metal sculpture “Rosebud” is also a must see.
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that's your work? very very cool. hiked it a couple of times (Dec. 2012?) when i was spending part of each week in Gallup monitoring some of the water pipeline construction around town. normally I was 4 on and 3 off and back home but for some schedule reason had a day or 2, or maybe just part of days off and had to still be in Gallup and that's what came up as a nearby place to hike. i remember being surprised by an historic Navajo sweat that was literally just off trail, sort of hiding in plain sight. also wandered some of the foot paths that branched off from the main trail. at some point along the base of the whole thing poking around looking for rock art. there was some cool and unusual historic stuff there tucked back in shadowed rincons. maybe you saw "nice butt cutie"?

those 50 degree temperature swings are always something. lately we haven't been cooling off much, just hot. this morning was first below 70 in at least a week, but a couple weeks ago when this round first started the last truly cool morning I was amazed to see that it was 48 degrees soon to be at or near triple digits, maybe the same day as down there? seems that those big swings often show up in late August / early September as reminder that yes fall is coming.

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that its the solstice got me thinking about a pair of shows that were a whole lot of fun and fell just days after.

6/23/90 and 6/24/90, Autzen Stadium, Eugene. My first shows in the NW. Little Feat opened both days. Huge 2nd sets each day. Peak excellence.

Bluecrow, 6/23/90, okay, sounds like we have a pick for today. Thanks!

Just finishing up Dave's 34. Very relaxing listen to this gem again. Love that Jam out of Seastones, Ship a Fools, Big River and the Black Peter!

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DV - a gem indeed!! Been spinning Disc 3 in the ride last few days. that Spanish Jam may be my favorite and I love the US Blues that comes flying out of it.

Have fun in Eugene!

Hmmm, sounds good. Coming from ole BC I bet I’ll like it

This is such BULLSHIT, can’t even use an exclamation point?

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Nice smooth, sorta laid back west coaster, nice for a lazy afternoon!

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The film is so amazing, don’t miss it. Looks like the band and the few people there just couldn’t
“Stay off the Grass” that night. Private parties don’t get any better.

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One of my favorite movie nights.. I don't believe the band owns or has possession of the film.. so there is some conflict on ever getting this released. Still, it's there.. big and beautiful. ..and really well recorded and I am guessing they have these master reels in the vault by now....

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thanks for seconding Doc's rec yesterday. that movie is something else. just a little gig in the back yard.

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Both film and complete audio were nothing less than extraordinary. “Keep off the grass” must have been countered with “Ignore Alien Orders”. One catchy phrase deserves another.

Yea.. we can't post goofy crap anymore. Like in-depth analysis of everybody's favorite fun show Lancelot Linq, Secret Chimp.

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Not true, there are a bunch on this page.
Must be grandfathered in.

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Been on the road and out of touch, so how about a little "Two From The Vault" for tomorrow? Unless it's been done, of course.

Assume everyone has received the box set email by now.

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I got it this morning! Wow,what a cool box set, completely unexpected!

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....Boreal Ridge Box. Offered in soundboard, audience and matrix versions!
Just what the doctor ordered.
No vinyl option though. Boooooo.

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Good show Bluecrow. Finished it up today. Recording is pretty good. Funny how they don't sound as polished as they did in March and April, but that was the story of the Dead. Nice Eyes to open the second set. Crazy fingers is a little clunky. Sweet Morning Dew. Solid show.
Okay, two from the vault for tomorrow it sounds like. 😀

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my box set email said i'd been randomly selected to try the concept of a build your own box set with a limit of 12 shows!! cherry picked some from Fall '72 and Fall '73, grabbed that Baltimore from March '73, Des Moines from May, the Roosevelt Stadium shows from summer of those years, and finished it off with Bob Fried memorial Boogie. tough narrowing it down. There were a few shows that were off limits like RFK w/ Allmans cause they had special plans for those.