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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • April 8, 2021 - 11:26am
    Vguy72
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    OMG!!!....

    ....that 4.8.71 second set!
    Mind. Blown.

  • April 8, 2021 - 10:53am
    Strider 808808
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    Loaded & reddy to go-go

    4/8/71 first set down (1st & down) Dark Star on deck.
    12/10/79 just uploaded from relisten.
    Phatty Patrol successful.
    Ready to a- go go.

  • April 8, 2021 - 10:03am
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    Thanks too for the two for us 2

    Thanks for the stories Uncle Sam, I think I like the stories these days as much as the shows lol. Cool show, cool scene!
    You painted a nice picture, I could feel the vibe of old!

    I think ole PF likes to just toss positive ideas out into the ether, it’s up to us what sticks or not lol, but yes, we’ve been a tad schizophrenic lately DV ; )
    My take on the anniversaries is certain big year events, like 50s, especially that seem to have some sort of consensus, are good picks, or at least second picks...that’s why I’ve been trying to go twofer; the usual POTD, like today’s fine 79 pick, AND the historic 50th pick. Otherwise I find the same ole “anniversary” picks can get very predictable and boring.
    I still find the coolest thing about this place is getting turned on to awesome left field stuff that you might never had gotten to. Perhaps today’s pick will be a good example? The unpredictability, like it was going to a show; “what will they play?” (especially fun if you don’t peak!) But hey that’s just me, and I believe the only rule we have is that we have no rules...well, perhaps to be respectful to each other!

    Sorry for the editorial, now back to your regularly scheduled drumz/space...er a “twofer”

    EDIT: yeah GOGD, I’d like to hear “the rest of the story” as well as the shows. We should pencil them in over the next few days perhaps as extras if other folks have picks?

  • April 8, 2021 - 9:37am
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    Twofer Thursday

    I'm hip Fo Sure.

    Kinda want to finish that 1991 Orlando run at Disney World too.
    (I always have mixed up World & Land.. somethings never change).
    We'll see where the day takes me.
    But honestly.. I've never needed much arm twisting when it comes to Dark Star, so it's 4/8/71 first for me. ;)

    Hot Dog!

    UNKLE - Sweet memories! I always like reading stories that start out with "It was a beautiful, sunny, hot day."
    You reeled me and kept me there. Dig it, Tripping in Disney World with the whole GD Fam.
    There were days!
    Spring '91 could really sparkle at times. Sounds like this April in Orlando was one of those.
    Good stuff.
    Keep it coming, I want to hear what happened the next day after all the hash and stuff ;)

    Happy Twofer / Threefer Thursday
    Threefer sounds like reefer.

  • April 8, 2021 - 9:13am
    JimInMD
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    Twofer

    I'm in on the Twofer.. keying the first one up.. approximately... now.

  • April 8, 2021 - 8:34am
    Strider 808808
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    Do two picks today

    12/10/79 & 4/8/71
    Maybe I was not clear on my recommendation for today.
    I do not recommend every 50 year anniversary should be listened to. If it has some history involved, like Capitol Theater or Manhattan Center I would think it would behoove a deadhead to check it out.

  • April 8, 2021 - 8:18am
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    12/10/79

    Good to hear from you Otis. I am going to check this out. I love 79. A lot of great shows in 79…..... Oh and in 1980..

    Thanks for the pick.

    Stay well.

  • April 8, 2021 - 7:55am
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    It was a beautiful, sunny, hot day. Very humid for April and the lot was humming with the entire family of dead freaks and heads, bozos and bolos, even the pranksters were there too. It was a lovely site, the cops on horseback helping instead of rounding up, no real hassles except on this date the opd did chase a dude into the very deep (some said bottomless) sink hole lake (actually a big pond) out in front of the since torn down old "O"rina. Not a good day for that dude as he did drown but it did not stop the festivities for the entire 3 days that the band was in town.
    Jerry and Mountain Girl and kids went to Disneyworld (not land) that morning and got back in time to rest up a bit and make the show. Jerry was well rested, had a big smile on his face throughout the show and laid down some very nice runs.
    The first set starts off with a Jack Straw, a good one and we are on our way, the cops had been told "hands off" for this show and the smell of cannabis was everywhere inside the arena. It was like the old days, everyone happy, everyone stoned and the band in good spirits. Then into Sugaree, Jerry just fine, voice and playing, then into wang dang doodle which got the crowd groovin' into the meat of the first set with Row Jimmy, a bit slow and the crowd wanes a bit but the Black Throated Wind was extra good into the 3rd and final performance of Rubin and Cherise, which had a few around us looking puzzled, as they did not recognize the song. It was a fine version and Jerry belts it out. Followed by a promised land. There was a buzz around the lot earlier that they had broke out some old classics but no one mentioned Rubin, it was a big surprise and very well done, then into Promised Land to end a short but awesome first set.
    The second set starts off with Crazy Fingers, you know it's gonna get good now, and it did. The second set is just sublime with Playin'>UJB into a killer drums with Mickey and Billy just wailing away, Mickey on the Bean which sent a few from the front running to the back. We got a kick out of that, newbees were not ready for that, into a beautiful space that Jerry shreds on into a nice box that was requested by someone who's dad was sick and Phil responded beautifully. Then GDTRFB, had not heard that one in quite a while and we all danced and danced. Then Bobby follows that up with Lovelight, never thought I would hear that song again, not the Pig version but still a rarity that didn't get much play since Pig left us. All over now was the encore and we left the orena and stumbled back to our room. We had rented a room at the Omni right next door to the orena and had it for 2 nights, party central and just about any favor that you wanted was there.
    We got wasted on Black hash and red bud Colombian all night. I had brought some tripping lps with us and we rented a turntable from the hotel. Just after this show, the omni got sold and we paid for the rooms in advance but the rentals were extra and were to be billed to us later. We never got a bill. We slept in a bit the next day then wandered down to the lot for another day of full on partying until the next show, which is another story. Ps, another great show, so much fun that they added a third show.

  • April 8, 2021 - 7:31am
    Strider 808808
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    4/8/71

    Dark Star . Go for it. Today . 50 years later.

  • April 8, 2021 - 7:28am
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    Back on Track...

    If ya'll are into it, I encourage you to check out the KC Masterpiece that is 12/10/79.

    Solid first set with a rocking CRS>GSET opening combo and a stellar Dancin'>Franklins that is the best of that 79 groove, and a nice, quick, high-energy Deal to close it out.

    Killer 2nd set with an OFF THE HOOK FOTM (sadly, the Scarlet is only in AUD), but the Fire is stratospheric! A must listen, IMHO. After a bummer "Easy to Love You" (easy to love you, Brent, but ewww...) things get back on track with LIG>He's Gone>Truckin' that is lights out - the Truckin' is incredibly high-energy ROCK AND ROLL! then Drums>Space>Wharf Rat (gorgeous)>JBG (rocking!) ends the set, USBlues encore (also rocking!)

    Not sure why this show seems to be under the radar - it is a SMOKER through and through. Here is a link to the Matrix:
    https://archive.org/details/gd1979-12-10.126986.mtx.dusborne.flac16

    Oh, don't let the flubs in Peggy-O set you off course. There is a TON of incredible stuff coming down the pike!

    Peace
    https://archive.org/details/gd1979-12-10.126986.mtx.dusborne.flac16

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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In process and it has been a while. Sound quality from my perspective is somewhat lacking. Love the Dupree's, It's all over now, good Passenger, Brown Eyed Women. Just finished Eyes, really good. Again, wish the sound quality was better.

Thanks Bolo and Mary!

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Disc one is fun (it's a mix of several shows, me remembers...CR&S is always welcome)
Disc two is sublime. Eyes, Playin' > Wheel > Playin'. I do notice some sound quality issues at times, but they are not horrific and permanent. I remember the Playin' is good as always, and then gets reeeeeeally good
Disc three is phenomenal. As I listened recently, I remember smiling at the glory of the show. Scarlet > Fire, Truckin' > The Other One > Wharf > Around

the Madison show took place about 50 miles north of where l lived at the time. but since I was in 8th grade, I had no clue or awareness of that fact.

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One of my favorites Scarlet>Fire's of all time.... Also love the Samson when after a prolong opening jam Weir does the woohoo type of shout out!! I've posted about the Scarlet>Fire before but there is a Jerry Keith chord interaction after the singing in Scarlet that for me is mind melting!!! Good first choice Bolo... One last ramble, for me this show 2/5/78 is in my mind is the last show of 77... The April tour after this has a different vibe..

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....listened to the first disc last night. Cold Rain, All Over Now, Duprees and BE Woman all top shelf renditions. Man. Iowa got all the good shows. Will start up disc two a little later.
Thats the show with the extended Samson due to Bob's mic difficulties, correct?

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A few momentous stand outs for me: The Music Never Stopped; this version easily made it onto a "best of" compilation early on and has never been supplanted. Fight me. Also, the Estimated > Eyes of so so good. Beautiful elongated Eyes intro, then just mad jamming all the way through, nice upbeat Eyes tempo. Great exploratory Estimated as well. I love the drop into Eyes here; expertly pulled off. The Scarlet > Fire is very awesome too. Long, jammy. Nothing new here, just adding my love.

Nice idea.
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The first thing I noticed is that it features two nights, but unless I am looking in the wrong place, there is no indication which nights which songs are from. I could have checked in Deadbase...but that's upstairs and as I was settled down to listen I didn't bother. It looks like one first and two second sets.

I have just played the first cd so far. Coming from Europe 72, this sounds a lot simpler rhythmically. During Spring 72, you can focus on Bill, Phil, Bob, or Keith - as well as Jerry obviously-and they are all playing with energy and imagination. Here, the focus is more just on Jerry. I like his fiery guitar sound on here, but I am not as keen on Bob's sound. Donna, on the other hand, sounds nice on Looks Like Rain. I prefer this version of Good Lovin to the ones played in 72. It sounds almost calypso-a real celebratory sound.
The cd picks up pace nicely on the last three songs, with great guitar solos from Jerry. It seems a bit more like standard "rock" in a way, compared to the swing they had with one drummer and a fully functioning Keith. I enjoyed listening to it, but I will probably leave the first of the set 2s for tomorrow.

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Not much left to say LLR crackled like a thundercloud!

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....Jerry fresh off his laryngitis. The crackling in his voice during Wharf Rat proves it. His voice was never the same, but still rocks my soul.
Trey Pistachio dropped another song. "Are You There Colleen?". With a message of getting off drugs. Methinks Colleen was his dealer back in the day. Might be wrong. Never right.
I had a dealer back in the day. Name was Chill. Called him from payphones. That was a long time ago though. Thank God.

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At the start of 1978 I'd sort of lost interest in the Dead, having last seen them in 74. 78 was my fifth year in college (yeah I know) and I was way more into jazz than rock in large part due to an awesome jazz club on campus, the Backdoor. The place just had a constant stream of major talent coming through. McCoy Tyner, Charlie Mingus, Elvin Jones, Roland Kirk etc. So in early January I see the Dead are gonna be at Golden Hall so my girlfriend and I say "What the hell?" and I get tickets for 1/07. Now in 78 the Dead were not that big of a draw and I wasn't expecting much, sort of a nostalgia trip. Wrong. They were great, just awesome. So after the show we immediately get tickets for 1/08. These were the Bobby songs only nights but that didn't matter a bit. My girlfriend (now my wife) cried during Looks Like Rain. We were back on the bus until 85 when the arrival of our first kid changed everything. Footnote to that is our last show was a week before his birth and she was major prego and treated like royalty by all you wonderful heads. So I love DP 18 and I especially like the Eugene show release. Stay home.

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Nice! I'm overdue for a listen.

RE: DP18, agree with Jim - Brown-Eyed Women is PERFECT! For that matter, so is TMNS - powerful! And then there's disc 3. If I had to rescue only one single disc from my burning house, this one would be in the running. That Scarlet/Fire is a half-hour blissfest, Truckin' is solid, TOO is insanely good. Masterful music!

On to Wichita!

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....has metal influences. Garcia tapping into his inner Iommi. My ear told me so.
Wichita this soon into the game? Bold move Cotton. Let's see how it pans out.

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Love the Dodge Ball reference!!

funny how they didn't list out what shows the songs are from. even funnier, the songs in Disc 1 are actually from 3 shows - Its All Over Now and Duprees are from 2/4/78 Milwaukee! The Wikipedia entry for DP 18 lays it out if you're interested. Deadbase IX also lists a soundcheck of Ripple x3 in Milwaukee - what the heck is that??!!

As others have noted, among many highlights a great Music Never Stopped and Eyes of the World from 2/3 - love the super long intro to Eyes, it reminds me of a post-hiatus favorite, 6/8/77. They Love Each Other is fantastic. The 2nd set from 2/5 is just wild. Such a raw sound to the Wolf! Would love to see released the Uptown shows that immediately proceed this. Worth noting how rare The Wheel was at this time - 2/3 was first time played since mid fall '77, another year until played again on 2/17/79 (Keith & Donna's last show), and then another year and a half before it finally re-entered regular rotation.

A couple technical notes - based on Dick's Caveat Emptor, 2/3 appears to have been recorded at a slower tape speed (7.5 ips vs. 15), and so the sound quality is a bit rougher. Also, IIRC, there is an unpatched gap (sad face) in the jam between verses 2 and 3 in Eyes of the World. There's a very nice audience of 2/3 on the Archive if anyone wants to hear that.

Now on to Wichita!!

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After listening to almost 4 hours of insanely wonderful music, the overriding conclusion is that, in my opinion, NO ONE can play guitar like Garcia did. At times subtle and nuanced, at other times raging, but always just exactly perfect within the context of the song they were playing. Remarkable, really. Feeling blessed to have experienced GD/JGB live so many times.

Garcia may not be the "best" guitarist (highly subjective, as most of those inane "best of" polls demonstrate), but he is the only guitarist I can listen to every day. That includes Hendrix, Page, Clapton, Gilmore and whoever else you want to throw in there.

It's grate to be a Deadhead!!

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You're a harsh taskmaster! Listening to Grateful Dead concerts will continue until morale improves.

Bluecrow - thanks for the tip. There were a couple of compilations that came out in the 1990s that featured songs from multiple shows, but didn't indicate in the sleeve notes which song came from which show. Ladies and Gentlemen from April 1971 and Dozin' at the Knick from Spring 1990 were two others.

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Agree 100% with your comments on Jerry, what a genius! The whole band was.

Just finishing up Dave's 11 now. Comments to follow.

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Dooo, just listened to that last week, for first time, so maybe we’ll sneak another round in after this 71 grease fest we’ve got going on today .....fall 72 is def fo shizzle....

EDIt: MHAMMOND12...whoa. I’m not sure what’s more impressive, seeing the laryngitis shows or all that top shelf jazz in a club setting???

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Dicks picks vol 21 , not the main show the extras , Iko iko > morning dew > sugar magnolia . Absolutely sublime , and without doubt one of the best dew’s 😸

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I shouldn't really call the Backdoor a club. It was an empty room on the ground floor of the Student Union and Performing Arts building on campus that the A.S. booking people converted into a small concert venue. Just a stage and corked walls. No seats. No refreshments. Bring your own. The talent that appeared there was unbelievable looking back. Freddie King. John Lee Hooker. Two memories...sitting under McCoy Tyner and watching his right sock working its way down past his ankle has he stomped his foot keeping constant time...Roland Kirk playing the flute with his nose, playing three saxophones at once, playing the piano with his elbows and head, and careening around the room playing saxophone being led by his handler (Rahsaan was blind you know) who had an air raid siren he would blow off in your face if you didn't get out of the way fast enough. And none of this seemed like a gimmick. Bright moments indeed.

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This show and bonus tracks from Oklahoma City is definitely top stuff. Sound quality is A+. A great Bear recording! Man, he did great work.
The whole show flows nicely, although not a long second set. Love the Sugaree, Bird Song is awesome, Jack Straw, Box of Rain! Come on. Casey Jones to close the first set and than open with Cumberland. Great Truckin Other One, very unique Other One. Always loved Brokedown Palace and this one they play flawlessly.

I will throw out 12/28/79 Road Trips 3.1??

Let me know Gents.

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I like the post-space UJB and Bertha on that one a lot mainly for Brent's harmonies. Overall a classic pick with a lot to like. I might give DP5 (12/26/79) the edge however. That pick is hefty.

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Listened to both Dave Picks 11, 11/17/72, and Europe 72, 04/07/72, as assigned by Bolo. Dave's Picks 11 is one of my favorite releases. Great recording by Owsley improved by the treatment of Mr. Norman. Has an incredible Bird Song. Just a wonderful release.

Europe 72, 04/07/72 Wembley just blows it away. Leaves a smoking crater where Wichita used to be. Europe 72 can not be bettered.

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This one has a nice slow relaxed build up with some ripping Jerry. TOO than blows the roof off! The only TOO>Brokedown Palace. End of set 2 all great. A perfect prelude to the next to nights.

ps. 4/7 Rips the paint off the walls from the first note. No contest.

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Okay Bolo, what are your thoughts?
Next show for today?

I suggested 12/28/79. RT3.1

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I’m down, right after my John Prine compilation

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I relocated last week and since that time I have been unpacking as much as I can and maintaining my workload from home. So I have been out of commission here for a while. I came across this pick of the day and I am all for it.

Just to throw a show out there ( not for today) but how about 9/8/73? I have never heard it but Dick Latvala spoke highly of it. It might be nice to give it a listen.

Meanwhile it looks RT 3.1 will it be for today. Maybe I will add 4/8/72 as well.

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Nice - been a while since that one hit my headphones.

MHammond gets a gold star. But what did you listen to AFTER lunch?

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I was at this show, it was a blast! Sugaree, High Time, The Music Never Stopped, this show was great from start to finish. This show sounds so much better then Dave's Picks 31 from just a .sound point of view. Yeah, this show was a hell of a lot of fun!

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Sugaree lovely, the rest of the set is okay Music rocks! Set 2 Alabama grooving, GSET explosive!, Terrapin super sweet jam, PITB end jam is sick!, UJB outta drums/space yes!, short Miracle, Bertha>Good Love, CJ , OMSN rockin!

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....on it. (I'm the tour buddy still in the car doing bong rips as y'all are heading to the gate.)

https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1983/09/10
Santa Fe Downs. Give me this. But for Friday. I'm working tomorrow, but off Friday.
I've stood at Santa Fe Downs and looked east. The view is spectacular.
Whats all the hubbub, bub?
It's got a Music opener and a Cold Rain encore. Warts and all.
Things are strange outside. Bird Songs all day.
edit. Found something!!
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/grateful-dead-jerry-garcia-favourite-song/
Spoiler alert. Row Jimmy. Also a favorite of Bill The Drummer. It was playing as I read it (12.28.79. Disc one. Track four).
I still don't believe in coincidences.

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DaP11: Last half of disc two - the whole He’s Gone thru BDP is incredible

Just starting RT3.1 now , if the first song is any indication of this night, I’m in for something special!

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Hendrix Freak threw this one out a couple days ago but yall were onto something else.....it got me thinking about some primal dead, and haven’t had a good 68 fix for a bit....So Wadaya say Laddys?

MHammond: RT 3.1, nice pick. Started to go through the 79 stuff when DaP 31 came out but didn’t make it, rember liking this one more than 31, and yesterday confirmed that. Really need to get to DP 5 from 12/26, it’s been so long for that one. Maybe this weekend I’ll roll that?

VGUY: I’m down with some Santa Fe tomorrow. Heard about this one for years but don’t think I’ve ever checked it out. Plus 83 would be a nice change up here....

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12/28/79! Is this the best RT release? Maybe, certainly the best 79 release from the Vault so far. Betty did another excellent job here.
I like this release more and more every time I listen to it. Sound quality is A+.Sugaree opener! Different feel to this show without Keith and Donna, but I dig it. Brent's keyboards really shine. Really good flowing Terrapin, Playing, UJB. The show closers are fun and groovy. Makes me want to get up and dance.
And then there is the bonus disc, from 12/30/79. 10 additional songs of bliss. Scarlet Fire, Let it Grow, Truckin! Sweet.

Would love to see more 79 and of course 80. The early Brent years! I know the Chicago release didn't match this release but 79 has a lot to offer.
Yesterday I also listened to 9/1/79. Not an official release, but again great 79 sound.
If you have not heard it, check it out.

Looking forward to our next pick. Let us know!

I can't take credit for that pick. I'm trying the Europe 72 night by night thing and I'm already behind.

Playing now.
Is that today’s pick?

First got this on cassette in mid-90’s and loved it right away. Then got a CD-R copy. Was really happy to get it as a commercially released CD.

This show needs a Plangentized/Normanized remaster 180g vinyl record store day release.

Edit:
Looks like I’m a day behind. No worries, I’ll catch up.

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Good to have you kid.

Bolo, what are your thoughts on the last pick. Sounds like the crowd is feeling Dick's 22 for today/ tonight. I will have to sit this one out as I don't have this one. Looking forward to tomorrow's choice.
Be well folks!
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