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    Our friends the Rhinos have various and sundry new releases in the development process, but they're always interested in hearing what you'd like to see hit the virtual shelves of the Store. No promises, but you never know...

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    I would absolutely LOVE to see a box set released from the Berkeley Greek Theater shows, especially 1981 (the first run there & fabulous!), 1985 (20th anniversary) & 1989 (the last run there). Loveya, Jolie Cloud hands reaching from a rainbow Tapping at your window Touch your hair -- Robert Hunter, "Crazy Fingers"
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    And how incredibly wonderful that we can talk about the "eras" of this band. Hoping they round out each era with a complete run box set. Maybe every four years, we have 69,73, now for 77,then 81,85,89,93..... just a thought...
  • Oroboros
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    Dstashe, I was at that 6-4-77 show at the Forum and the
    inventiveness, power, and dynamics of the boys that night left me slackjawed. I could say more about that show and I wanted to speak to the box set and era topic, but CosmicBadger beat me to the points I was thinking about. I also often have thought that the period that people attended shows or when they really 'got it' was the era of the band that they subsequently enjoy the most. But after reading the genesis of Dstache's experience, that may not be the case. I instead own that my heaviest touring 'window' starting in '74 and through the early '80s is the strongest influence that steer my 'wishlists'. I still attended a show a year (or so) once marriage and children came along but I attended fewer shows and look back on days more fondly when I was actively roadtripping. And I do hear or feel that some of those shows from that era really speak to me. I still do enjoy shows from other eras, but the '69 Dead's breakneck speed & turn on a dime frenzy combined with their DEEP jamming. and the evolution into the roaring beast through the 1970's will always have a special lure for me. I will never forget those June Forum & Winterland shows in '77 or the '77 NYE Winterland run and then there was that '78 midwest (Madison - Red Rocks) tour that really hit me where I live. As with you all, I don't begrudge anyone for desiring those later shows, but for me, those '70's are 'so right'. You know some love the Jalapaneo, others must have that Habanero, yet others desire the Cayenne, and some yearn for the Serrano ('you know this space is getting hot'). It is the same with wide variety of aural delights provided by the Dead that are so often 'just exactly perfect' for that person at that space and time ;o} The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
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    For me a helpful distinction between the 'earlier' and 'later' dead periods is that the earlier work is timeless and universal..you can listen to it purely as music even if you were not around then and only be amazed. But for much of the later stuff, and especially as Garcia's inventiveness, consistency and voice began to wane, it increasingly becomes a case of 'you had to be there'. People develop very strong attachments to years and runs which they attended, not just because of the music, but also because of the whole experience they had at shows. We had no shows in Europe from 81 to 90 and a lot of what i hear from that period I find pretty painful..for me Brent's talents cannot in the tiniest way compensate for Jerry's slow decline. But then I also know that if I had been at some of those shows I would probably feel totally different and I also know that Jerry could still touch the stars from time to time! Each to his or her own I suppose. As for a box set...how about a 'wall of sound' set from '74.
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    I knew I shouldn't of posted that, as I was writing it I knew it, but ... haha Some points: (1) When I say "later years" I am using the breakdown of the Taping Compendiums and am referring to 86-95, so I am not referring to the 2 Anchorage '80 shows. In fact, I agree that they would make a fine release. (2) Mary, you've seen me often enough on the vineyard to know (my pic) that I didn't get on the bus until much later. I only saw shows from 93 onward and, as can be inferred from my previous post, I would probably not purchase anything from those years. (3) I agree that Brent was great. He's the main reason I sign up for vines for later era shows (the other reason would be the newer Jerry songs, the one thing he could still do was write and play a good slow song (see Liberty, Black Muddy, So Many Roads, Days Btwn, etc)). I love all of his songs except "We Can Run." I love his playing. I love his backup singing. (4) I have no problems with releases of later era shows. I would just like to see them release single shows here and there or a compilation Road Trips and not a huge box set, especially when they release such a limited number of box sets. (5) It just seems to me that in requesting a box set of the 21 show Spring '90 run, you are implying that you would rather have all the shows from that tour rather than all the shows from early '69, spring '72, fall '72, fall '73, spring '77 or fall '77. Notwithstanding Brent's contributions and the newer Jerry songs, I just think that is crazy. This reminds me of a remark in the Taping Compendium about how if one could have all the SBDs from one particular month, April of 78 would be way down the list. Spring '90 would be behind all the tours mentioned above on my list. (6) The packaging for the '73 Winterland box does not explain the $35 price difference btwn it and the '69 Fillmore West box. While I like it, the box is basically a crayon box, like you'd store your Crayolas in as a kid. The packaging probably cost about $2 more to manufacture AT MOST. Both were 10 disc sets, the Winterland box was released about a year or two later. The price increase was inexplicable. So, I don't think a '90 Spring box would be offered at a "discounted" price. I use quotes there because $450 for music is WAY more than I would be willing to spend. Heck, I complained they were gauging us for Winterland '73. (7) Finally, these are just my opinions. If you want a later era box set you are free to request it. But at the same time, I am free to request that shows from what I consider better years be released instead. Good vibes to all
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    One of my personal all-time favorite shows! My fave live terrapin (besides the first terrapin in san berdoo..) and the NFA was insane! :D Larree.ws
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    especially since I didn't come along till '81. To this day I miss Brent as much as Jerry, and the Brent era is woefully underrepresented. And I can think of quite a few shows or runs (Greek box set! Anchorage!) that would warrant the full show/box set treatment.
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    Take a deep breath, big guy... First off, the Winterland Box Set is $100 because of its packaging, as well. That's one package for 3 shows. If you have one package and one insert for all 21 shows (GOTTA have February), I bet they could package it, going minimalistic on the design/labels and sell it for $450. Yup. The whole dang 1990 tour for under a nickel. I WOULD pay that, assuming it sounded like everything else that has been released from that year (WOANet & Dozin). SICK STUFF, BRO.... Breakouts of Loose Lucy, Easy To Love You, Revolution (and the final version), BT Wind, Hey Jude, The Weight, the last Believe It Or Not.... Not only selectionwise, but these guys were simply tighter than they'd ever been (with this lineup) and there's SO many skull-crushing jams. Inasmuchas I love the 72-73 era, the sound quality on any of the recordings are simply not on the same level as what we get from the late 80s-90 - if not just for the sake of technology. Spring 1990, to me, was the height of the band....this is where the whole "taste is subjective" stuff comes in, of course.... I liked Brent 100-fold over Keith. I love Keith - don't get me wrong, but he didn't have the talent or power of Brent (or the B3!!!). The kid took this band to a whole new level and they peaked in Spring 90 - Summer 90 was good, but not AS good as the Spring. Fall 89 is the only other tour that came close, IMO. If I were allowed in the design lab, I bet I could get this bad boy to the people for under $400 if they let me at it!!! ;) ~ Pappy www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter
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    Spring '90?!?!???????
    Let's see, 18 shows on the Spring 90 tour, not including the Feb shows, at $100 for every 3 shows (the price of the Winterland '73 box), makes $600 for the tour. Are you freaking nuts?!?!?!? You would pay that for THIS tour? 1990 is a good year, considering the years around it, but c'mon. If Rhino/the Dead release anything from the "later years," I sure hope it is an individual show or a Road Trips (with a bunch of Brent and newer Jerry songs and NOT an attempt to recreate a real show). The number of requests for "later years" shows always surprises me. Jerry's creativity, sense of adventure and skill began a steady decline after 1977. Although they don't announce sales figures, I would be surprised (yet again) if the best selling releases were not those from 1969, 1972, 1973 and 1977 (not coincidentally, the best 4 yrs IMO). I vote for more from those years, and especially 5/12/77 (Lemieux has posted excerpts in the Taper's Section so it is in the vault and a SBD does NOT circulate) and 6/4/77. No offense to anyone.
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    Excellent Choice Pappy!
    I second that emotion. The Weight....each one taking a turn on a verse, singing with the heavens at their back....just beautiful. peace,pk
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Our friends the Rhinos have various and sundry new releases in the development process, but they're always interested in hearing what you'd like to see hit the virtual shelves of the Store. No promises, but you never know...

This topic is for requesting new box sets. There are also topics for individual shows and DVDs.

If you've already requested something in the previous Requests topic, you don't really need to request it again, but hey, if you just can't help yourself...

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Any of the Las Vegas runs from the 1990's AND buy the rights from the opening acts to include them in there too! (Santana, Steve Miller, Sting, Traffic, DAVE MATTHEWS BAND!) That would be cool! I would love to see a box seet come out from a whole run like that! All the sets from all 3 shows! How about a box set of the Shoreline run from August 1991. A real winner! Egypt 1978 Box Set with lots of photos and the best of the music! I would buy it! How about a DVD of that too! The Return of the Warlocks Box set from Hampton 1989. Would also make a great DVD set too! A new Years Eve Box Set! All of the New Years shows the band played - EVER! Could also do different themed box sets! 4th of July!, April Fools Day, etc..... Well, thems some idears. (^_^)
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I agree with above.... Santana/Dead or SMB/GD would be a great box set. I would also suggest the 10/89 Run in Hampton, the Shoreline run from Aug 91 or perhaps a Cal Expo box set with various shows from there or say a Shoreline box set etc... Perhaps a MSG box set or LA Forum..you get the idea...Eric
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...shall we go, you and I while we can... Very credible sources say it's "in the can" and a mystery why it's not released....I wonder if David Lemeiux knows? This kind of information would be cool to get on this site!
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Go over to the tapers section, send David an email, and ask him to weigh in!
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These shows would make a great release as far as full runs go. The band seemed in great spirits and the playing was consistently strong throughout ( if memory serves).
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in a nice booklet similar to so many roads with photos and memories from people involved etc it was 35 years ago this year Bob W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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I was one of those who pre-ordered before the pre-order page was officially "live". It was a sad moment when I read the email explaining the snafu. Although I have high quality recordings of the November 73 Winterland shows, I'd happily plunk down some cash for an even higher quality, nicely boxed, official release! Hey, if it was pretty much in the can already, why not go ahead and let it rip? Thanks!
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I would love to hear box sets of a full run at a given venue For example 1. Winterland 11/9 - 11/11 '73 2. Boston 6/9 - 6/12 '76 3. Anchorage 6/19 - 6/21 '80 4. Boston 12/29 - 12/31 '69 5. Chicago 12/03 - 12/05 '79 6. Boston 9/20 - 9/26 '91 7. New York 9/14 - 9/20 '90
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Talking with my friend about how this should be put out and the traditional "Box Set" would be too much. The first thing that comes to mind is making it available to download. I think a lot of folks are donwloading more music and jewel cases are becoming things of the past. Now to make these available to the folks that don't download, how about just a spool like the spools of blank CD's you buy. No need for any crazy box with all sorts of graphics. Just a spool of CD's with the infromantion printed right on them. Check Out My Orignal Music at myspace.com/salaversano
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With the spaceship on the cover....At least 86-89 ( tons of gems like Box, Roadrunner (not a breakout per se but a damn good version; the great Terrapin from 3.24.87, The 88 breakouts and slamming 3/27/88 show. Oh and those "Formally The Warlocks" shows. They were kinda decent. “The Omnipotent Grateful Dead!”
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I'm also into box sets that cover entire runs at the same venue. I'd like to see a box with the 6 Orpheum 76 shows in their entirety: 7/12-7/14 and 7/16-7/18. It would be beyond incredible to have EVERYTHING available from Europe 72 released. Perhaps that could be released by week in boxes and/or available as individual releases. It would definitely be cool to see an audio/video release of 8/27/72 (with both cds and dvds) too. I'll post more as I think of things... :-)
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Issuing Live boxed sets by venue makes a lot of sense. I personally would be interested in purchasing Alpine Valley and Soldier Field boxed sets, among others. Brian Michaelson
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BCT 8/21-25/72 Winterland Dec 1972 Nassau 73 Winterland June 77 Greek 85 and 89
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How about a massive box set of 9/14/88 - 9/24/88. A total of 9 shows.
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Non limited addition I put my order in about a month before release just as the limit was reached. I have the other Fillmore West 69 set and that is forever on my player, or mp3 player I am sure the release could be fleshed out with other "Live Dead " show tracks Bob W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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I would like to see the sessions that Donna and Ron Tutt arranged between Elvis and Jerry finally see the light of day. I hear that the guitar jams with Jerry and James Burton are just amazing. Rock on! Or should I be requesting these from the Jerry site? Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.) Walt Whitman-Song of Myself
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Why not re-release Fillmore West 1969? It's a proven seller and many could not react quick enough. It's got to be a better move than taking back mp3 again@ :)
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I would agree with the complete venue boxed sets,(complete shows of course) what a great idea! Start with Hampton 1989! Boston 1991 New York 1990. PS How abot winterland '73? It's ready just release it.
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How about The complete Fillmore East run from Feb. 1970, or April 1971. I know they already released Ladies and Gentlemen, but the complete recordings of the run that closed the famed Fillmore East in 1971 would be perfect for a boxed set!
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I would love a box set of a full 1970 show! The ones from mid 1970 with:Acoustic Dead NRPS with Jerry on steel guitar set 1 of Electric Dead set 2 of Electric Dead 1970 is my favorite year in the GD history, just for the sheer magnitude of how long the shows were and how good they were! Sadly, I know that few of these full shows were recorded... even by the audience. But there MUST be a couple of FULL shows from this historic period in the vault... please... there just has to be...
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I Would Love To See A Box Set Of The December 71 Run At The felt Forum. I Already Have The Whole Run But If Rhino Boxed It up With Some Pic's And A Cool Booklet,I Would Buy It In A Hartbeat
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How 'bout a Crate Set from 10/19/71 to 12/31/72? That'd be Vol.1. Vol.2 would be from 2/09/73 to 10/20/74. That'd pretty much do it. "From day to day, just lettin' it ride, You get so far away from how it feels inside, You can't let go, 'cause you're afraid to fall, But the day may come when you can't feel at all."
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Neddles,Check the forum Deadheads>tapers>The Vine. Your wish has come true.
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I agree 100% with Sunshine-daydre and Estim8ed. How about rereleasing this marvelous run. I too put my order in after it sold out of the numbered editions. It would also put a crimp into it being sold on Ebay for upwards of $400.00 a shot. This run is too important to only be enjoyed by a select few who actually got them.
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Since it's out of print: this thing is fair game to being copied and spread around. Who wants a copy??? The fact that they haven't put this up for download on the offical site just goes to show how stupid Rhino is when it comes to making money from the vault. Or maybe that is their plan to sit on the vault for 7 years and release next to nothing. Oh I forgot about the cool puzzles and shirts they are selling. Good ROI on that stuff, what a bunch of financial wizards these Rhino guys are proving to be. It's almost November and not a peep about what they are planning on offering for the Christmas season. That was always fun looking forward to the new DVD or Dick's Pick and montly downloads. Man those were the days. Now I just spend my money on other stuff. Keep up the good work Rhino.
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Requests: Box Sets marye Posted: August 2, 2007 - 7:04pm Our friends the Rhinos have various and sundry new releases in the development process, but they're always interested in hearing what you'd like to see hit the virtual shelves of the Store. No promises, but you never know... WELL WELL, THIS TURNED OUT TO BE THE BIGGEST LINE OF CRAP EVER DIDN'T IT? (NOTHING PERSONEL MARYE). "OUR FRIENDS AT RHINO" - WHO ARE THEY?
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Hey Bought all the dicks picks! would continue to buy.... But alas snip its and partials are uninteresting to me and most every head I know... Shows and tours and runs have a flow. We were heads because of the personal interaction between us the heads and them the band. Sometimes the divide, in reality, was large as they lived there own lives and were separate from us but at the show we were part of the Geshtault ( sorry spelling) .... Part of the band.... Not having the end to end experience really kills it for me and many many others... This is all said with the utmost respect and love. Your vault sounds better than everything that circs and if it get released it will sell and the circ sources will fall away... I'm not saying that it has to be Dicks Picks... I'm sure Dave knows what we want... How about the whole tour of Europe '72... The Acadamy Run.... Classic Winterland Runs... Spotlight on MSG... Go to University (great 70's university Gym shows.. Ala every time they played Cornell), May '77, Spotlight on the wall of sound., comparison boxes of 73 vs 74 set lists and playing styles ( take shows or runs form the consecutive years at the same venue release all the shows and write white papers on the development of the music and playing. Include comments form great tape traders and tapers). We love to read that stuff the book alone is worth the price of admission. If you involve us the community in your plans and releases and we will beat a path to the store! We don't care if they circ in SBD form or not... They will sell non the less we all always want the best quality and we know its in the vault.... Non circ sources are always a treat but don't let it stop you form creating master classes in the bands development over time... How about High res 24bit show releases! The packaging for the stuff I talked about above is not critical. They can come in a CD sleeve or sleeve pages...with printed out notes for a binder. You can sell the binder as well (3ring). And everyone populates the binders as the shows and releases come out with the notes. It would create a whole library to reference. Less cost in packaging and art work... You can sell accessories to it like the little things people put on there crocks alla tabs for organization. A data base plug in to track the collection. Download capability for shows controlled by the plug in to verify and guarantee copy write. Through the plug in have community connection through chat so everyone who has the interface and shows can swap ideas all through your interface... That is marketing control. That is building community. Thats the way to maximize sales and loyalty... You would be creating and controlling the 'Digital Parking Lot of tour'... Have weekly listening parties that all heads and vault people can chat over INCLUDE US! Sell Inserts for art on the site for people to buy and slide in to customize there collecting experience... I could go on and on... You have such a great opportunity. If you track the sites out there today you have a lot of bridges to re build but you will and can as in the end WE LOVE YOU! Any way... I love the band have supported you for years and will continue to This is not a rant and was written with love so take it that way Love IMINCHARGE
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MY IDEA IS A BOX SET OF EVERY SINGLE SONG THE DEAD EVER PLAYED FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME,(AKA THE EARLIEST RECORDING AVAILABLE) TO BE RUN IN CHRONILOGICAL ORDER..IF THIS HAPPENS,DO I GET THE FIRST PRESS?????? OR THE BOX NAMED AFTER ME??????? PEACE,LOVE,DEAD ."nothing left to do but---> smile...."
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How about 10/25-11/6-11/8-11/9-11/10/79. I would LOVE to hear these SHOWS in thier ENTIRITY.
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I am listening to the Grateful Dead Channel on Sirius and David Lemieux's This Day In Grateful Dead History. DL has been playing cuts from Winterland '73 on this past Friday, Saturday and today's installments. In his introduction, he has been making a point of saying what a great release this run of shows would be! In fact he has been exhorting the listeners to lobby the powers that be for this 9 disc release along the lines of the Fillmore West 1969 box.So, in that spirit~ PLEASE RELEASE A BOX SET OF THE 1973 WINTERLAND SHOWS!!!!! :^)

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..material for a CD of Beatles covers, ala' Postcards? Because I'd be into that. ~I was concealed Now I am stirring And I will lay my love around you...~
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Winterland 73Europe 72 MSG Nassau Radio City Academy of Music
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IMINCHARGE kudos to you for posting your thoughts - do we acually think anyone with any power acually reads our messages - if you still read DNC - its pretty obviuos NOT! And here probably less than zero.
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Count me in for the Winterland 73 box.alta
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The Orpheum Theatre San Francisco CA July 1976 7/12/76-7/18/76"From Egypt With Love" run October 1978 Winterland 10/17/78-10/21/78 The Fillmore East Complete Concerts 2/11/70, 2/13/70 and 2/14/70. Re release the Complete Fillmore West 1969 Box Set Europe '72 The Complete Tour And also my vote for the Winterland 1973 Box Set...
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The Egypt run, many of the Europe '72 shows and the Winterland '73 run have recently been available as vines. Check out the vineyard for some great stuff.
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got this from another group I was just browsing on the Spin website and noticed this - Grateful Dead - 'Winterland 1973: The Complete.... 'Winterland 1973: The Complete Recordings' (9 CD) We've just seen this as a UK release on a Rhino schedule for May 5th. More news when we have it. Looks like the long delayed box set may be back on track :) Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://spanishsunshinedaydream.blogspot.com/ Spanish Jam
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I would love to hear the complete Anchorage Alaska shows from 1980 as a box set. Three special nights of the the Dead when the sun never set. Come on, brings The Grateful Dead, June 19, 20 21, 1980 - West High Auditorium, Anchorage Alaska.
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another vote for winterland 73 !and any other classics mr lemieux can pry out of the vault - please rhino - just release something! seems like its been forever since a full show was released. i missed the full fillmore and don't intend to make that same mistake twice. unique packaging with stories, photos, reviews etc are much appreciated. thank you thank you
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when will the good folks at wherever please create a pigpen anthology box set? a lot of us older heads would gobble it up like candy and the younger heads would have a new appreciation for the man who for many of us was the embodiment of what the dead was all about in the early days. i'm pretty sure Piggers and Jerry are knockin' out some great blues up in heaven. just a thought ....
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had a few more thoughts for the ideal pigpen anthology. this would include a DVD biography with lots of interviews with the pig himself as well as others, rare behind the scenes images and film footage and some choice concert material of mr. pig at his best. also included would be a book with more bio stuff and pictures. and of couse several CDs of pigger's best performances. the dillon gym show from 70 would have to be included. this show had the "good lovin'" with the "buck & a quarter" rap as well as the "lovelight" where our friend plays matchmaker and pairs up guys and girls from the audience. also need would be the carousel show in 69 with him and janis. hope someone is interested in putting this together!
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Does anyone have more news on the Winterland 73 box? May is not so far away. Nothing on the Rhino site, nor here, that I could find. Happy Trails