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    It's floodin' down in Texas, poles are out in Utah

    as a parent and a teacher, thinking about all those kids getting washed away...

    ugh.

    a movie recommendation: The Life of Chuck. saw it this weekend with wife and son. truly well-done flick. it reminds you about the temporariness of things, especially life.

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    7-7-78 Red Rocks

    Going with some excellent tapes from the late '90s, before it was widely available, gifted from a friend (says Rbt. Becker on the tapes) of a friend who happened to be our city attorney at the time. Thanks Greg! I think Greg has been a city mgr. too, including for Telluride and Vail maybe and for Flagstaff, AZ. We are everywhere!
    A favorite 1st set to many here including our friend Bluecrow.
    Now we are getting to the stars of the July '78 box.
    The penultimate as Dave L. would say, lol.
    Cheers
    Edit - It's 4 o'clock and 20 (colons freak out the thought police) and the NFA > Nobody's Jam is playing. Synchronicity?

  • TooMuchIsJustEnough
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    Two-fer today

    2nd set 7/7/78 finishing show started yesterday, then fast forward to '89/JFK for Crimson, White, & Indigo dvd tonight.

  • Dennis
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    Pulled out this album while typing.

    Great album (The Compact Collection).

    To the UK folks,,,, were they as great to scotland as I've been led to believe.

    I like them a lot.

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    écoute ...

    ... radio luxembourg

    may 16th 1972
    never gets old around here

    PEACE for ALL!

    thoughts for all
    affected by the texas floods

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    Continues. I'm with you TooMuch.
    Will do the Omaha show today on it's anniversary.
    More reviews later.
    Cheers
    Sugaree opener? And Bobby, put down that slide! You're killing me.

    Somewhere in the 1st few listens years ago I had decided that St. Paul (7-3) was better than Omaha (7-5). Not so much anymore. They're just different Mrs. Gump. I think I liked St. Paul's raggedness and found the 1st set of Omaha a bit slow. Now I see that Omaha 1st set as an interesting setlist mix for the era. So against tough competition now St. Paul comes in tied with Omaha this time through in this top tier box. A beauty contest where all the contestants are hot. On to Red Rocks!

    And looking at the Rhythm Devils segments in this box with even more appreciation since the Devils Box.

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    In the papasan with an empty house a few hrs this morning, on the 2nd cup, volume up a tad more than usual, sitting in that special stereo effect spot. Whole new level of love for Betty. Oh my F'n goodness. Smoking crater of a mind, the quality just wow.
    Crisp, clean, tight, a little bright. Pristine. Maybe it's just me today, conditions just so, but I gotta say, holy sheet. Envious of those of you who were old enough and lucky enough to have caught this gig.

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    7/4/89

    Happy Independence Day all. Sane and safe.

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    2/9/73

    glorious show

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    Good ol' Grateful Dead

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Dennis - in my admittedly small circle of acquaintances Smokie weren't considered too cool. They might well have had hidden qualities. We were quite snobby, although we didn't see it that way at the time.

I recently bought a great box set by the Welsh band Man, called "On The Air 1972-1983". It features BBC recordings in that timespan and includes 4 cds and 2 dvds. Great sound quality - it's not a grey area bootleg or anything like that. I don't know if they were known about in the States, but they were sometimes considered as the Welsh equivalent of Quicksilver for their great guitar sound, willingness to jam and stoned good humour.

Check out Renee Berg strutting her stuff with them on stage on the first dvd. She can be seen dancing to Quicksilver online at a live show circa 1970 and also joined Stacia with the mighty Hawkwind for the Space Ritual tour in 1972.

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... popped up a picture of her (Renee Berg) dancing behind Jerry at what I think - off the cuff , i.e. guessing - is the Lindley Meadows show in the fall of '75 (Jerry on Wolf & wearing a leather jacket)

I've just startrd going around again, 2nd spin, on the new DaP #53. Then, prompted by that image - I think I'll pull out Lindley Meadows for the pm. That should hit the spot ...

I am pretty sure that's her dancing with The Dead at The Family Dog on 2/4/70, which came out on dvd a while back.

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... I looked up the Lindley Meadows pic/s and Jerry is playing the first of the two T. Beans he used. So, it is definitely from earlier.

Interesting then - what is in that video you mention/picture that came up would possibly be a very early Irwin/Alembic (prototype) that predates Wolf's commissioning in 1972 and actual 'launch' of it at shows in late summer of 1973.

Hmmm ....

Postscript - Here's what would make most sense to me: On 2/4/70 they were just back from New Orleans & "the bust" therein, but some of their equipment is not ... So Ol' Jer borrowed/was loaned that prototype Alembic in order to have the show come off - complete with groovy chick dancers. A couple of Archive reviews indicate it 'sounds different' and TBH, I haven't heard it (yet), as I don't have the Download Series releases.

Apparently (well, let's say 'hunch') he had such a good time playing it that day, that is what led to the refinement/development of the 1973-4 version ... Cool

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Live in Chicago 1992 by Neil Young
Well recorded unofficial album. The official Dreamin’ Man Live 1992 is brilliantly recorded but doesn’t have the full concert. I recommend them both.

RIP Mike Ratledge of Soft Machine who I’ve just noticed died a few days ago.

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Spring arrives in 39 days

:)))

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Fun gig, I'm so glad the BBC filmed it.

Twelve years later on the 21st of February, I recall catching a fine Grateful Dead show in Oakland. I often think this would be a quality, representative performance for Dave to release. Good song selection, well played - notable for a lovely Eyes coming out of Space, the last time that ever happened - and no Hornsby, just Vince. Don't get me wrong I enjoy Hornsby's contributions a lot - in a perfect world he'd have been the guy (sorry Vinnie) - but I think this is a great showcase for what Vince could do after just six months in the band.

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? In the video clip I quickly checked from 2/4/70, he’s playing a strat?
Perhaps wherever/whatever your perusing is either the Peanut or the Pretzel?Their aptly named shapes make them instantly recognizable. The Pretzel was early Rick Turner (RIP) pre Alembic that Jerry never played onstage and eventually gave it to Sam Cutler (RIP) as a gift. It was stolen from Sam, but mysteriously showed up at Ricks shop 45 years later.
The Pretzel was another early Alembic hybrid that JG did play briefly, especially I believe at Capitol Theatre 71 shows?
But unless the videos I watched are labeled wrong, he’s playing a strat on 2/4/70: Hard to Handle and China/Rider…

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Last night concert with Harry Manx... long heard his recordings, first time live. Solo on several instruments, including a guitar with a sympathetic twelve string section, a sitar effect foot pedal, foot actuated percussion (left foot snare, right foot kick drum). He has a number of recordings which can be found on the u, glad to see him to Voodoo Child, Slight Return. Mostly slide blues but lots of stuff, kept trying to tag his voice like a Tom Waits drizzled Springsteen, he finished with Van Morrisons Crazy love and had Van down. This past week four concerts in seven days, a new record. Frisell program seen down in Florence, MA was performed in Brooklyn twice over this weekend and can be streamed now,
search on Roulette. And I had to return to some of the most best slide (besides Derek) , Sonny Landreth, found playing with John Hiatt on Riding with the King at the AVO Session, Basel, also on the tube. Have a great Superb Owl, everyone.

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Yes, Jerry's playing a strat on my dvd on 2/4/70. Just going off photos, he seemed to alternate between this one and a red Gibson SG during 1970, and then those odd shaped guitars seemed to make an appearance in 1971. I actually prefer the sound of the Gibson on shows from 1970.

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on exactly which picture (of the aforementioned Renee Berg) was in question. The one I saw, which clearly must be from '73 or '74, was of her, behind Jerry - who is playing Wolf and wearing a leather jacket (outdoors show, clearly not the Family Dog).

Apples to Oranges, apparently ... But all good.
Cheers!

saves this release

It's good and all

Was it the hottest available show?

I'll take what I can get, believe me

3 26 73 is bound to be hot hot hot 🔥

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since, when looking up the Lindley Meadows pics, Jerry has his first (more compact) Travis Bean, longer hair and much more of a Phineas Freak vibe going - if you know what I mean.

Damn, I really want that SNAC Benefit to get a re-release this year with BfA 50th, plus the Bob Fried Benefit show is coming for sure - at some point soon - hopefully in the 60th Anniversary box.

Bring it, DL!

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and the tide mounts,
and the people grow,
and the voices are heard,
and the sun goes down,
The Music Will Go On!

august 28 1982 set 2 @ the oregon country fair

well, as you know...
...a celebration is a CELEBRATION!

ty BIRDS!

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I been searchin 🎶

Congrats Uncle T
Didn’t watch but bet it was sweet!

S-W-B sounds like the park. Didn’t realize he played two different Beans?
Actually borrowed a friends Bean bass for a spell BITD…great tone, waayy too frickin heavy lol

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after 2/24/74, an undated 72 Dark Star

at home
Dix 30
Academy of Music

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...said to me during the 2009 world series
Dad, what's the big deal?

In a Dad moment, I stopped, thought for a sec,
looked at him and I said,
"Son, the next time this happens you may be 35"

well it was only 13 years later until another WS
but he remembered, and he did text me

so thnx oro!
the most meaningful part
of sunday's SB win
was my youngest the long distance runner son
driving 4 hours
to spend time watching the game
with his parents

today's listening party celebration continues with...
april 26 1983
@ philly spectrum
you tell me this town ain't got no heart

PEACE for ALL!
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Burnin and a lootin’ through these shorties.
11/21/70a, all 23 minutes of it, 11/21/70b I skipped as I have a CD of it?
So onto 11/23, which sounds really good so far…
Cold R&S kinda day here…
Then we’ll hit 12/12, and hopefully squeeze in the 44 minute 12/17 show…

Sounds like a good kid uncle T, ya done good!

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...watching the fat man from the 2nd level
@ nassau coliseum
march 11 1992

he was howlin' into the mike
we just looked at each other in amazement
at the volume of emotion he was pouring out

also very noteworthy
drumz > encore
check it out sometime
and bruce would soon be departing :(

PEACE for ALL!
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PS: I believe the entire space may have been TOO...?

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A BTK recommendation
To be followed by 12/26/70, a PF recommendation.

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...always an enjoyable listen

aug 17 1991

smokestack > it's all over now

PEACE for ALL!
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"Thanks Mom!"

A favorite show for a long long time. Ca. '82 lucked into a very nice audience of Set II = Lazy Lightning filler. That tape revealed pure magic. Shared it far and wide before the Bettys first showed up on the scene. Soon after the Bettys arrived Dayton described swinging off the chandeliers to that gorgeous ripping final close to Morning Dew.

Just finishing Disc 1 from the GSTL release. So sweet!!

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12/27/70 for me as well

8/18/70 for the past few days

interesting little show

acoustic into electric (no break as far as I can tell)

These El Monte shows are kinda under the radar good, perhaps not quite as tight and energetic after a long year of very eclectic and often superb shows as some, which is understandable, but mostly good shows and nice recordings.

Yeah PF, 8/18 is pretty cool, 19 perhaps even better?

EDIT: might as well hit last few I missed from 71…
Starting with 1/21 (poor audio, chick doesn’t shut up lol), and 1/22/71, more low fidelity…the 24 I’ve heard via Doc…

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Frank Zappa quote

Plenty good shows

I am at 12/27/70 Midnight Hour

I have never heard 8/19/70, Oro

Archive, here I come

12 27 is in the car, you see, and....blah blah blah

Oro wins Deadhead of the Month for turning me on to 8/19/70

Extremely hot show I don't recall ever hearing mentioned

Do yourself a favor and listen

It gets really hot 🔥

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6-21-71 94356.sbd.miller

Sound quality is good. I suspect that a little Plangentization/Normanization would make for a nice official release.

The China Cat Sunflower -> I Know You Rider is on the Long Strange Trip Movie Soundtrack - Amazon Exclusive Expanded vinyl release.

Winner winner chicken dinner!
But seriously, so glad if/when my ramblings have a positive landing!

And onto 3/3/71…
Sounds pretty good so far H2H!

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3/3/71
3/14/71
3/20/71
These were mostly good, and mostly good recordings, and you can tell they’ve morphed into that tight, song oriented band of 71, though there were inconsistencies, mainly the new, not fully absorbed material their still hashing out…
Today onto 3/21/71 at which point I’ll have hit all of 71, so will move onto fall 76 and hit what’s remaining there, including the new DaP!
Onward!

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...bucket hanging clear to hell...

jan 11th 1978 set II
@ the shrine

hell halfway twixt now and then

PEACE for ALL!
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Onward to fall 76…
Enjoyed 1970 more than I’d thought.
Out of tune “everything” and constant quip issues not as prevalent as I recall lol. Suppose attitudes an antecedent to bias’?
I wasn’t too familiar with second half of the year, but there’s some top notch shite thereabouts! Inconsistency too, but that usually goes with heightened transitional periods. Shame there’s not more good recordings…
But now I’m definitely ready for something completely different, so time to hit fall 76, including the new Dave’s!
Onward!
To 8/4/76
Both kinda status quo creeper first sets, but they sneak up on ya.
Dig the jam outta MAW on the 2, sounds like headed toward miracle lol, and JG is lobbying for trucking, even a lil Nobody’s fault vibe, but Bob ain’t going there, and eventually what might of been a cool segway just drops out, but rebounds with one of those big late seventies S&Ds, nice Candyman, and cool playing/jam.
Currently, Just on the jam outta Dancin from the 4. This show really picked up steam as she goes, and my goodness, what a Help/Slip!! If nothing else, check that sometimes! Ok, let’s see how it ends…
Believe this was my BFF Jim (Wild Knights Bass maestro!) and long time buddy Sean’s first? Shit, been needing to call him lol

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...nov 20 1973
@ denver coliseum
especially looking forward
to that 2nd set

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

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23, decent, but…

and 9/24/76…
Edit: sweet set list, cool show that I’ve only heard a couple times as I only received a copy in the past year…thanks again XX really enjoyed it!

Fall 73…always the temptress!

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They seem to have stopped releasing shows from the European tour on vinyl. At least for the time being. If they release further ones, as I hope they do, this one would be great candidate to get the ball rolling.

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Mornin', rockers!

Right now? Providence April 21 1971. Because CRUNCHY. Plus it rocks a tiny bit. And there's some good Pigpen. And it's going to be in the first April 1971 box set. Did I mention it's a rocker????

The more you embrace the weird crazy things about you, the more you find your tribe......

Rock on!

Doc
Embrace your differences and the qualities about you that you think are weird, eventually, they're going to be the only things separating you from everyone else.....

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4/21 is a beauty, but as good as it is, I preferred the 2 or 3 proceeding, and perhaps the next night as good or better, Duke they seemed burnt, which is understandable…But hey, that’s just me lol, but what a stretch there!

9/25/76 to start today…
Just don’t tell ‘em ya know me!

If I get any weirder,..well, they have places for us…

Why, 9/27&28/76 of course!
Good sheet Mon!
Why is 9/27 not out?
Oh yeah, that’s going in the Rochester Box ; )

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Besides good times and good memories, I also brought back a cold. I escaped it for weeks, and it caught me.

Shheeyit.

Disneyland was a very welcome bubble from current events.

When I get back to normal I will be doing more El Monte stuff.

The best way to experience Disneyland is by having a specialty snack.

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Wow, this stretch just seems to keep getting better…
Gonna try and sneak 10/1 in today so hopefully I can get DaP 53 proper treatment mañana!
Onward!

Hope that’s just a cold PF…not “quademic”…chicken soup and zinc time!

Did Disneyworld? (Fla) at night on veggies once, big fun!

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Waiting for wife to get done with a ride I didn't want to go on

Listened on little ear buds to 1983 (a merman I should turn to be)

Kewl

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Can they keep the drive alive?
Been a Hellava stretch, they may have peaked slightly already?
As always, it’ll be fun/interesting to find out…
Onward!

Edit: (same review as DaP 53 page)

Finally worked into the rotation.
As a representative example of the tour/year, this is a fine show.
I can totally appreciate why Dave went with this one.
You have to think there is some professional considerations involved in his processes that we civilian nuts might not consider?
The audio is nice, the playing solid, nearly flawless, good selection of tunes to compliment other releases etc. So why am I not shouting “RJ”?
I can see how some might find it a tad subdued, especially the JG tunes, depending on how your pleasure tends, but I think that’s kinda on purpose, and perhaps not as exciting, certainly not a fault?
But I’m struggling for the right word to describe how it made me feel? I thorough enjoyed it, but perhaps it didn’t hit me as much as, imho, the peak sweet spot of this tour, the four from 9/24 through 9/28. Fortunately, we’ve been blessed with 3 outta the four (so far 🤞)…
The next four are also quite good, but perhaps that’s it, too “good”, like some of 77 for me personally, their too shiny clean and sparkly good?
Jimmy’s “super model” analogy?
They’ve been on the road just long enough to get jiggy with it via those spicy unusual jams and sequences, work out the kinks, and by Ohio evolved into a smooth, velvety goodness? So all good, but personally, I think those four or five, “worts and all” were more up my alley? Ya know, more dirty but daring? Obviously subjective conjecture certainly influenced by bias…
Fortunately, David himself discusses some of this in his notes, which to me intimates promise for more of this tours awesome, underrated goodness!

Actually listening to 10/3 as we speak and this one’s even better than I recall, though admittedly I haven’t given it a good shake yet?
8/2 was perhaps a practice gig, and 9/4 takes a little time to get up to speed, but then, oh boy! I felt 9/23 was good, but comparatively the “warm up gig” for the tour. But from there onward, mighty fine indeed!
Next up will be those awesome Oakland shows, then the 2 shrines for the first time. It will be interesting to compare them all upon completion!
Onward!