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- bluecrowJoined:11/14/73 & 4/16/78
continuing on my 11/14/73 query - C Miller 2008 upload of 11/14/73 SBD has Weir shifting to center and Garcia to left during Weir solo out of China Cat. The only circulating audience, a mono recording, doesn't seem to reflect any change in the PA. So it looks as if Kidd was indeed occasionally dramatically shifting instrument position in his reel mix to suit personal taste. I've noticed that sort of move in other shows and assumed it was a patch but now it seems that in some instances at least its simply Kidd mixing it up (so to speak).
Totally agree on 4/16/78 - awesome show.
- FiveBranchJoined:April 16, 1978
Huntington Civic Arena, Huntington WV
Highlights need not be mentioned. The whole show is just so well played over and over again and again. Best listened to straight through.
And a great example of how synchronous the band played on this tour. Its not that the ideas just keep pouring out from everyone, but that they keep landing into the music so well. Really magical stuff going on.
- bluecrowJoined:11/14/73 San Diego
from 30 Trips - a Kidd Candelario recording
Big Railroad opener??!!
thanks J-MC for tracking down those references
edit - listening to the China > Rider and in the initial transition jam Weir is soloing as per usual for the era - he's in left channel (which is where he's been) but then quickly switched to hard center with Jerry over to left channel in Weir's previous slot. As soon as Weir's solo ends, another hard switch with Jerry returned to center and Bob back to left channel. Is that a source switch or is Kidd simply dialing in his preferences on the fly mixing on what he wants to hear right then and now as opposed to a straight soundboard or house mix with no goofing around?? I'm guessing it's Kidd and that there are some nuances to the boards - as in they're literally shifting the soundstage on the fly as to what their ears want to hear. Thoughts?? Hard evidence?? Thinking it has to be obvious if you're working with the reels but has anyone seen a real discussion re this sort of thing?? Thought about this for a good while as to possible radical mix changes on the fly in the 73/74 era but first time posting about it.
- JoeyMCJoined:'73 Tapes
Bluecrow
I'm happy you went back and dug it. :)While listening to 3/24/73 I noticed the change in sound, and I just assumed it was a patch, and not really thinking about that fact that it was another board, which it is...
Now, in the HCS box seaside chat video Dave talks about having multiple board sources to choose from, Bear, Betty, and Rex? not Kidd?
This seemed nuts to me, I always wanted to ask someone like Gans maybe, ya know if Betty or Bear is pulling tape why does anyone think they need to? Like with everything going on its just strange that multiple members would be running decks like that...Edit: I don't know how many sources per show, probably two depending on the show, but he did have more than one source between three people over the course of those 5 shows, I think...
EDIT: Ok, it was probably on the Deadcast where Dave discusses the sources because I don't think it's the "office Chat"
OK LAST ONE: if you go to about the 8 minute mark in the Daves 32 "riverside chat" Dave explains the sources a little, the 10" 3/24/73 reels did go back somehow with the Betty stuff.