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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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    Looking online 35mm film has an equivalent resolution of around 5.6k. So more than 4k. So 35mm and 70mm films, properly transferred, should look better on 4k screens and players than on standard Bluray. A problem with some ‘70’s programs/shows is that they were recorded direct to video tape which has inherently poor resolution. This is why programmes like ‘Mork and Mindy’ or ‘Soap’ look terrible on big screens. I have no first hand experience of this because I don’t have a 4k player or television but when my current kit dies I will certainly get them, unless 8k becomes more than a niche product.

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    ....Godzilla Zero One is on Netflix.
    Must watch imo. Even the wife liked it, and that's saying a lot.

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    Cnkd and Alvar - cheers. You make 4K blu ray discs seem a bit like the emperors new clothes. Maybe 1970's films aren't the right things to demonstrate how good they are - something made more recently may be a bit more dazzling. But how dazzled do you really need to be?
    That David Bowie final Ziggy concert was always a poor picture. I keep meaning to buy the latest version, which includes footage of Jeff Beck, but after over 50 years, my enthusiasm has waned a bit.

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    He peed on my rug. Have that on my summer watch list.

    Right now, making my way through Band of Brothers.

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    One would think they'd take a hard pass on playing in a place where people can see Henley lip-synching more obviously on a giant screen the size of the building. I'm of the same opinion on the Eagles as The Dude, whether it gets me kicked out of a cab or not.

    Speaking of scams, 4K seems like a fresh rehash of upscaling from VHS to DVD and from DVD to BluRay, but without the comprehension that stuff filmed in the 30s-70s or even 80s and 90s may not transfer well to a higher form of media. Like a concert film/documentary from the 70s. It's just a big cash grab. Luckily, there are some releases where they add the 4K disc for a buck or so as icecreamkid mentioned. Others it's a straight rip off. And on Amazon there are plenty of complaints from purchasers of 4K discs who didn't have the right player or TV to actually decode the tech. Such is life in a world where profit seems to rule to the detriment of all else. And look at that, we're right back on topic with the Eagles again.

    If you can't tell, I really despise Henley and Frey. Kinda feel bad for Joe Walsh and Vince Gill...

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    Because Moonage Daydream uses grainy film footage from the 70’s there really was no point in making a 4K version because it’s still grainy. Although I haven’t compared to the Blu-ray, which might be even more grainy.
    The 4K disc came with the Blu-ray disc for only $1 more than just buying the Blu-ray disc. So I opted for the 2 disc version so I could try out my new player.

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    Cnkd - would you say it was worth it, just going off Moonage Daydream? I suppose you may not have seen the non4K version, which seems pretty good to me. I was tempted by the reviews of a film called "Last Night In SoHo", which is apparently much better in 4K - although considerably more expensive. Again, I am quite satisfied with the non 4K version - apart from a sense of dissatisfaction I now have about having purchased a supposedly inferior version.

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    #49 is still available Danehead.

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    The only 4K Blu-ray I have is Bowie’s Moonage Daydream.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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Andy W I l l i a m s

50 made it to to Denver day and a half via U P S now we w a i t on pins and needles to see if U S P s loses it, drops it on the floor, or just get around to it for a couple weeks as they purposely it seems do not scan it until ? W h e n e v e r if ever, which by the time a customer finds out, is too late.
Yeah, great service folks! Why would you turn down additional revenue via alternative shipping choices? F@#$ the USPS contract!

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…I hope all is well with all our brothers and sisters here on the dead forum! Been enjoying this May 77’ Show for a couple days now! LOVE’N number 522 /25000 and the Bonus Disc Art! The Bonus Disc Cover Art is Sweet! The artwork is in the style of “New York City”graffiti”(spray paint ) and most importantly as always the audio quality is Primo! I’m truly grateful for all the hard work getting everything just right!!! My tubes love it ;audio system. Sounds beautiful recording and the Dead are on Fire! I mean they are so tight in their playing! Everyone Shines On Thru with this performance! The dead members all playing together in pure expression of joy! Good Ol Grateful Dead always played wonderfully on their east coast tour’s & performances/concerts! Everyone is really focused on music coming together it’s really a joy ride! “Jack straw” is over the top! An excellent version of this much loved song!
As David points out the second set is where it’s at! Overall a 5 star release in my opinion.
I don’t want to spoil any surprises yet but there is something very special about this performance! I’m truly grateful to be able to add this musical magic to my collection! Disk 3 is what dreams are made of! Bravo! Praying everyone receives their orders soon with no problems.
Terrapin station on the bonus disc is super primo, an amazing arrangement by the band!
Wishing everyone a grateful day & peace be with you all! Long love the Good Ol Grateful Dead, Rock on! 🙏❤️💀🌹

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And you got yours

And if not yet

May you get yours Monday

:)))

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first thing i noticed is a little gold leaf bling added to the circle around the dave's picks title. nice! im typing all lower case to try the heynow theory that upper case gets the hn.

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39 years ago I was up at the Frost Amphitheatre for the start of a great weekend with the Good old Grateful Dead. The Dead played great. The Frost is only about 10 miles from my house, so very easy to get there.. Fun times.

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Bonus disc cover art

I see graffiti all over Seattle

I want to break every taggers fingers

And here is a doofus Deadhead spraypainting

I'll fix you good you little good for nothing punk

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12757 ~of~ 25K has arrived in Tigard, "just a bit outside" of PdXs.
Funny thing, the mail notice said it wasn't coming till Monday. So Another positive surprise.
A thought on the bonus disc cover; Though it's not as awesome as the 2021 or 2023 bonus disc covers, it's as least as good as 2022. As for the 'Tagger' on the cover......Look, I know some folks are sick of graffiti and much of the modern artwork {too many wannabes and amateurs} is questionable at best. One has to transcend themselves to a late 1970's NY city where the urban blight and steel grey was all enveloping across the city. That's till the New York City youth decorated the drab with graffiti art of a higher standard and quality. So to me the tagger makes sense. Oh yeah, they got the classic 'I Love NY' done with a bolt too! Too cool, too cool!

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....there are graffiti "artists". Then there are graffiti ARTISTS!
Just sayin'.
50 will be here Monday. Relistened to 43 last night and finished it this morning 🌄.
It's Knight Time. Turning on the telly.

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Gary Farseer, A HUGE Thank You for sharing the quote, You will never regret being kind. Not sure who to attribute that to, but I think I will live with that one for the rest of my life. Lots of positivity to that! If anyone knows more of where that originally came from, I would appreciate learning.

Hope everyone has a happy, beautiful and peaceful day.

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Regarding Trower, Some of you recently posted earlier, if you are not aware already, Bridge of Sighs 50th Anniversary, 3 cd's and 1 dvd. If you familiar with the tracks, you know many tracks fade, the new version contains longer versions that would not fit on the lp. Cool stuff!

Hope everyone has a happy, beautiful and peaceful day.

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Regarding Trower, Some of you recently posted earlier, if you are not aware already, Bridge of Sighs 50th Anniversary, 3 cd's and 1 dvd. If you familiar with the tracks, you know many tracks fade, the new version contains longer versions that would not fit on the lp. Cool stuff!

Hope everyone has a happy, beautiful and peaceful day.

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WTF?

I try my best every year to support CANADALAND.

This is just nonsense. You know that.

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....new song.
Life As A Tree.
Nice comeback by the Knights being outshot 3X to tie it.

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I know you’re up at this hour. As should be all hockey fans.

Your VGKs look awesome. Big, fast and skilled. Nice trade moves at the end of the season.

Mike, just to remind you. The leafs suck again. Again.

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Pancho-thanks for the tip-that looks like a good 'un. Also whoever recommended The Gun Club's "Fire of Love" 2cd set ( Crow?) knew what they were talking about.
I haven't got Dave'50 - but just to show I'm not completely out of the loop, I did play 5/7/77 yesterday - a great show, especially from Mississippi Half Step onwards.

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Definitely a great NYC run! I attended the Saturday night performance at the Palladium on 4/30/77 - released as Download Series Volume #1... Can't go wrong with any '77 Spring show for release. Just get it over with and release the whole tour... I'll never forget Jerry's interview in Rolling Stone at the time... Jerry said 'the band was horny to play'. Boy, was that an understatement.

....lmao.
I fell asleep in my chair during overtime. Woke up at 1 AM and they were replaying the game. I thought for a couple of seconds, "damn. Five overtimes?"

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Powerful show

Any recommendations for GD 87 88 89?

....to Go To Heaven.
Cranking Antwerps Placebo.
You should too.
1989 recommendations? Cal Expo.
Playin' -> Fire.
1988 recommendations? Monterey. Complete Playin'. Although I misses the Friday show.
The lot was abuzz when we pulled in Saturday afternoon.

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6-22-91

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Fantastic player and singer with his own, very unique style!
He started in the early 50s, wrote some classic tunes(New Camptown Races, Leave Well Enough Alone, etc.), also composed some neo-classical pieces where he used different tunings. His recordings with Red Allen(some produced by David Grisman) are outstanding, so was his tenure with the Greenbriar Boys.
He was a member of the Good Old Boy, which Garcia produced in 1975.
Got to see him in various San Francisco venues in the 70s, at the Other Cafe, and a great birthday celebration at the Great American Music-Hall hosted by David Grisman. Will miss him.

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39 years ago today I was at another great show at the Frost Ampitheatre. Between the Frost, Geek and Ventura, I saw saw some great shows in 1985. Fun times.

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I have not been able to get a post through Hey Now for a couple months. Trying again. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, I visited the museum and enjoyed it immensely years ago. Such a great collection on display. Jerry's guitars were in the lobby so anyone can see them without paying. Inside they had plenty of good GD stuff on display (I remember seeing Pigpen's hat and harmonica), but amazing artifacts from every major player in rock history.

Now, the induction into the HoF is ridiculous. I gave up on caring about that decades ago when it became a general music HoF rather than a rock and roll HoF. Just my 2 cents.

Looking forward to 50, hoping to receive it today. The bonus disc, again.... looks positively amazing.

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I get really bummed when I think it's coming, and then it dosen't :(
I'm listening to Dave's Picks 9 for now.

It seems the Jerry people have put an end to Amazon pre-orders of the Garcia Live cds. I always felt a little scummy doing it, but it saves five dollars on a seventeen dollar set.

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The playing comes at you in waves. More than any other tour as a band. Sitting in my living room this weekend was akin to sitting on a fifty mile long Pacific beach awash with waves of endless size and intensity. David Crosby compared the band to a pack of wolves running through the forest. Agreed. But not necessarily for May 77.

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I remember thinking that at the time. But like most GD albums, it's better than most people think. Then again, like all GD (studio) albums, it's not as good the live versions. And I never liked that cover, so ... whatever.

My copy of 50 is supposed to come tomorrow. Which is good timing. Wife's out of town, I don't gotta work, so I can pull that thing out of shrink wrap, roast a bowl, and listen to it straight through, probably. Life is good, my friends.

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...cause that's where 50 landed today.
#17667 with bonus disc found it's forever home.
My Bertha pipe is loaded and ready.
Time to roast her and get this thing started!
Peace

Dave's Picks Volume 50, with bonus disc landed in my mailbox today.
2087/25000 I love the artwork, especially in the bonus disc, and the little bit of gold foil on the Dave's Picks logo.
I ain't gonna dance on my street, but I'll swirl in my apartment campus parking lot!
Thanks, Dave & the Rhino crew!

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I just realized the graffiti guy on the bonus disc is also on the #50 cover. Down in the left bottom corner of the album art in the alleyway by the corner of the brick building. The cat too!

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Oh lord, I’m stuck in Rossford again.
Friggin USPS Mail Innovations. Gets to Rossford, OH and it sits in a truck until it’s full, then it heads to Cleveland. Been there since Saturday. Hope I get it by Friday.

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All ripped in and rolling!

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....required 50% down.
7K.
Housekeepers unite!
Always tip when I travel.
The cover gives me The Fifth Element vibes, which is cool.
Nice Playin' into Comes A Time.

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That TMNS to end the first set is outrageous! Top tier. Settling for the listening party while it sails past me to go to Denver. Thursday if I'm lucky.
Cheers

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I was watching "Glory Stompers", a pre-Easy Rider movie with Dennis Hopper made in 1967. Jody McCrea, son of actor Joel McCrea, was also in this outlaw biker movie. I started reading about Jody's movie history and he was in a bunch of Frankie/Annette beach movies. His character was Deadhead, but I never heard any of the bands' music in these movies. Maybe his character never went to the Matrix or Family Dog, or possibly they cut those scenes out during editing. Does anyone remember the GOGD ever appearing in Beach Blanket Bingo? I thought I heard Rosemary during one of the surfing scenes.

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#322 arrived safe and sound - haven't got a number this low since DaP38. Will rip it tonight. Looks like there's at least 22145 that subscribe...

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I guess this means no official release for 5/4/74...

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Frost, Greek, Ventura and everything in-between ... some great fun in the 80's! .........tcc

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....like 400 thread count Egyptian bedsheets.
If you know, you know.
Edit.
You bozos heard of Grateful Fred? Some cool ass shit on that site.
You want bolts in ice cube form?
I did/do.
Back to hockey talk? OK. I've noticed cool new camera angles this postseason.
I'm especially fond of the 3D'ish face off one.
Edit. That 3rd Stars goal was puck luck defined lol. Game in the background. The Palladium in the foreground. As it should be.

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