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    Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

    Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

    Subject: setting me on fire

    left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

    yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

    Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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    Grape/Pistachio..

    Love both G/P and will love this box, too.. BW for a happy weekend to you all..

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    Came here via a slingshot on Mars. It's been a minute... I grew weary of getting constantly hey now'd.

    Was just wondering if folks were talking about the box set rumors. And I see you have been :) Me, I don't know what to make of it. I'll certainly buy it if it's true; the Alaska solstice show is fun. And I'm always down for 1970! But if it's actually true then it's a strange brew. Like Grape Pistachio ice cream. And yet the people who like Grape Pistachio really like Grape Pistachio...

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    Blues Bridge from 1970 to 1980

    The only way this works in my mind is if the sets are really bluesy themed. For the 1970 Pig shows, that's an easy reach with songs like Easy Wind! Now for the early era Brent shows, they've certainly got a more gritty blues sounding feel than much of the Keith and Donna era. At first I do think it does sound odd, (and still a rumor) to pair 1970 with 1980, but with a bluesy motif and set list for '80, I believe one could match up the somewhat seemingly distant eras. I don't think that same philosophical idea would work for applying late '80s Brent era to primal Pig.

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    100 % agree. That's the way I see it, too.
    Different years/decades, different set-lists makes it even more interesting to listen to something new.
    For comparison you always have your own personal archive.
    HI '70 and AK '80 sounds very interesting to me.
    And there's a lot more!
    Cheers

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    I was only following order

    I don't think I've ever listened to a box set all the way through in order. Or even tried.

    They come in the mail, and I cue up the first disc of whichever show I'm most eager to hear, and I listen to that show, all the way through in one sitting, if possible. And then I make plans to get to all the rest of 'em sooner than later.

    I did think the variety you get in something like the River box was nice. The '71 shows were significantly different from the '73 ones in every way: personnel, set lists, and most certainly audio quality. If Dave has said he values continuity in a box set, I don't what he was thinking there.

    Bottom line: I just want great shows in good sound. Most (not all, but most) of the boxes deliver. Hawaii '70 and Alaska '80 would be a weird combo, but I'm-a try to withhold judgment till I hear the music. Or at least confirm the rumor.

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    And melt into a dream, but like daverock, I like more of the single year boxes. Even if it means lower distinct song count, and more of a monotonous sound if on repeated listens. Sometimes the difference between tours is enough of a demarcation point for me to strongly prefer the sound of one over the other, such as Spring '77 vs Fall '77. Fall '72 vs Summer '72. Differences between years are often more jarring, usually due to recording and equipment differences, but also musically. Pigpen to Brent in one box, with no Keith would be massively jarring. For multi-year boxes, I lean more toward the '72 shows in Listen to the River, the '89 shows in Giants Stadium, and enjoy the PacNW shows pretty evenly. 30 Trips doesn't count, I was getting that no matter what, plus, it encompasses all years, save 1965. Give me a central focus for a box, and I'm much happier. That's my view on it, anyway.

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    I've never really thought about that before - but on reflection, the boxes that span different years don't really hold up as box sets for me. Both The St. Louis and North Pacific ones feature great shows - but I have never played them in the order they are presented since the first time I played them. I still hear each years shows in the context of other shows from that year - not in the context of other shows in the box they are released in.

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    I totally agree with the Kidd about a box of some 1969 Oregon shows. I've even seen a bootleg on line somewhere of a show they did in St. Hellens of all places! That venue was even more far out of town {PdXs} than Springer's Inn was, to which was also a good Down Load Series {#2, Jan. 18, 1970} release.

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    Hiya Folks...

    Both tonight and tomorrow' night's Tedeschi Trucks Band's shows from Berkeley will be streamed on nugs...some fun...

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    consistency & unified...

    ...remember folks that is any box's requirement from TPTB:

    DL: We wanted it to sound sonically unified, which means if we had a PA DAT from1993 — very good shows in ‘93 that maybe someday would be released — but they just sonically wouldn’t quite hold up to the same level of the ‘87, ‘89 and ’91. Plus, ...sonic unification that all sounds good; similar to the way the Pacific Northwest sounded very similar because the recordings were made by the same recordists with the same techniques and the same equipment. Now, if we put in some Pacific Northwest, let’s say ‘77, into that box it wouldn’t have sounded at all the same because we would have also had Betty [Cantor] recordings in there, too. That was kind of how that ended up going.

    I can't believe the rumor of mixing '70 GOGD w/ '80, nah...shaking my head, can't happen

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of  5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire,"  "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. 

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Tue, 05/14/2024 - 06:31

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Thx Icecrmcnkd, that WAS an LP, not a CD. I nabbed a sealed copy.

Maybe I need to get a turntable now.... I can see the domino effect cascading and becoming a vinyl slut.

Oh well, HF

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Submitted by Dennis on Tue, 05/14/2024 - 09:52

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doesn't sound like a nice place

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Tue, 05/14/2024 - 14:59

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In case you haven't heard, Real Gone is going to issue a vinyl version of Dicks 12. Which is a killer diller, some of jammiest jams ever. It's a run of only 3000, goes on sale Thursday. You've been warned.

Also, I've been trying (trying and trying) to post something to say how grateful I am to everyone who helped sort out my problem with the defective disc. Thanks Doc, Mary, and everybody else!

And also to thank everyone who sent kind words and good karma after I posted about my mom's dementia the other day. There's some very nice humans around here.

Hope this doesn't get Hey Now'd. To the best of my recollection, I am not now nor have I ever been a robot.

....this slut already spent his allotted record $ this month. Thanks Crow, I guess.
Then again, my birthday is next week.
So I have an excuse teacher.
Just listened to 12 a couple of weeks ago. Stays in semi-regular rotation, as it should be in all of our homes.
BTW, this is what I bought at the record store Sunday after seeing my mom. King Gizzard And The Lizard Wizard - Flying Microtonal Banana. Phish - Fuego. My Morning Jacket - Z.
I got a little high last night and was totally absorbed in that Gizzard record. Good stuff.
Careful HF. It's a helluva drug my man.
Edit. Good excuse to get 12 Joey. It's for sale on Real Gone. CD that is if you're not the slutty type.
Edit again because hey nows aren't effecting me yet. My father passed from Alzheimers Crow. It's a rough road that one. Peace.

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Submitted by Danehead on Tue, 05/14/2024 - 20:52

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Vguy.. sorry to hear about your dad.. think you said he was from Denmark.. my dad died from Alzheimers 8 years ago - maybe it is in the genes here in the North E.U. ? BW to you and familie.. Danehead..

....my step-dad got alzheimers. Married mom when I was five. My real dad was Danish and died in a car accident when I was one. However, good memory danehead. Impressive.
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Submitted by proudfoot on Tue, 05/14/2024 - 22:26

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I had was working with old folks with Alzheimers and other dementia types

Nasty thing, Alzheimers

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Submitted by topchinacat on Wed, 05/15/2024 - 06:12

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... and at all three of the Greek 83 shows ... some of the best times ever. As I sit here today, I STILL recall the Friday Let It Grow ... I was only a year into the Dead and this particular live rendition was just so over the top ... it kept building and building. IMO, it holds up after all these years .... tcc

Thank you Vguy, yeah cd for me or sometimes digital, no vinyl; I need that like a hole in the head. Man, these reissues are expensive, either way I'm looking for one. There are a few Dicks I never got, mostly the compilation types...

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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Wed, 05/15/2024 - 09:12

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JOEYMC check your pm's....................

My personal hobbies are reading, listening to music, and silence.

Rock on,

Doc
Music comes from an icicle as it melts, to live again as spring water.....

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Wed, 05/15/2024 - 13:12

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Problem is, Vguy, I'm already a CD slut, a concert slut, and a just plain slut.

That's the upside....

Cheers, HF in Slutland (should be a board game...)

P.S. Anyone here heading to Joe Russo's Almost Dead at the Rocks, June 1?

P.P.S. My dad went out two years ago with dementia. Anyone suffering from it or being a caregiver has my complete support and best wishes. Truly.

In Seattle there is the South Lake Union Street Car

But many refer to it as the S L U T south lake union trolley

Quote unquote ride the S L U T

Nyuk nyuk

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Wed, 05/15/2024 - 19:22

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Really hoping to get this one, trying to be ready precisely at zero hour. Missed DiP 1 by that much. I think 11 minutes, and they were gone like Keyser Soze. But as much as I love that Here Comes Sunshine, I love the China Cat from 6/26/74 more. And my favorite Eyes. Phil's solo is as good as either of Jerry's solos in it that night, and as an encore, it was super tight. Then Phil suddenly at the mic with a hearty, "Good night folks, see ya on Friday!" And that Friday is just a monster. Well the Weather Report Suite - Jams - US Blues, is the real monster. Dark Star hints, Mind Left Body Jam morphs into a proto-Music Never Stopped Jam, and so many peaks and valleys until US Blues meanders out of the ashes. Too bad the most recent DaP vinyl was #2, #34 6/23/74 would have made a killer companion. When that one comes out on vinyl, I will be all over it. Oh, and the etched last side? Wow!

Now, fingers crossed I am able to go into a room and no wifi issues strike, and I am able to get this motha tomorrow at 1pm, EST. And good wishes to all those joining me in the online queue.

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 01:41

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Alvar-there speaks my mind. Slut is a shoddy word, no doubt about that, either.

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Submitted by JoeyMC on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 05:40

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is on Amazon currently for 134. I dont know if thats good...

Edit: its actually less on ebay.

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Submitted by PT Barnum on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 06:25

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Yesterday was Wavy Gravy's 88th birthday, Happy Birthday anniversary to the pied piper of phun.

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Submitted by dmcvt on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 07:15

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Gave up on a couple posts due to Hey Now, hope it's fixed soon, THANKS MaryE for letting us know. Looking forward to Jims report on JRAD, have tickets to their show August 1, Jerry's birthday in Burlington. Alzheimers, ALS, my heart goes out to those whose families affected, have lost friends and family to both. To say it sucks does not begin to express the devastating effects which many of us know too well.

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 08:11

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134 is a little less than what I ended up paying up paying from a record store online. That's not bad. It's worse right when they're released, then things seem to calm down, until they've been sold out a few years, then they jump above 200. Or so it seems. I saw the Talking Heads RSD release has stabilized and I could probably get it now more reasonably than on RSD almost a month ago. So, I'll wait a little more on that one.

Did anybody pick up Nightfall of Diamonds?

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 08:24

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....I got it. Sounds excellent. I will also be in cue for DiP 12 at 10 AM my time.
Dead & Co start their Sphere residency tonight.

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 09:44

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Let's try this. A certain band about to start a major residency at a particular location has added a VIP perk.
"We will be screening an iconic live ____show...runs for 3 hours." Inside scoop, anyone?

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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 10:03

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Ordered.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 10:20

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.....secured. I feel slutty now. Need a shower.
I'm going June 8th. $250. 300 section.

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 10:20

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Refreshed at 2 minutes to 1and able to add to the cart and check out in a minute. Funny enough, my notification emails came in 2 minutes later. Good luck to everyone else, and I look forward to RGM's usual quick turnaround. I love how they drop the announcement when they're ready to sell and ship. That helps because they will have done quality checks when they have product in hand. They delayed release on one of the DiPs a couple years ago due to a bad pressing, if I recall correctly. And I love they get Mr. Norman to mix and master from the original tapes, unlike the Brookvale releases, which were cut from the digital files. Can't wait to hear that China Cat in full vinyl glory.

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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 10:27

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Yup, I've ordered it too. Costs an arm and a leg with shipping costs, but it's one of my favourite Dicks Picks - so it's worth it. No one outside this forum I know would think so, but hey ho.

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Submitted by Crow Told Me on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 10:35

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I may be $170 poorer, and the records might not sound much, if any, better than the CDs I already own, but by god I am going to thoroughly enjoy listening to that China Rider on vinyl. Along with the rest of it.

Last five!

Sly Stone: Stand
TTB: Best of the Beacon
Sonny Rollins: A Night at the Vanguard*
Ty Segall: Three Bells
Aaron Copland: Symphony #3

*All you vinyl sluts out there might like to know that Blue Note's "Tone Poet" reissue of Rollins' Vanguard material offers a substantial improvement in audio quality over previous issues. Well worth investing in, even if you already own this music. Hey, it's only money, right?

Round and round and round and round, don't take much to get me on the ground

I say yeah yeah yeah

And I thank you for a real good time.

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 10:54

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Getting around to the 5-4 material and bonus. Love the jazz dead intro to Comes a Time. Clearly a highlight in this solid release.
As HF stated elsewhere, a nice box would include the Red Rocks/McNichols 1979 shows. Early Brent kills it!
Cheers

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 11:07

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....Go To Nassau.
That Jack Straw is the most metal sounding I've ever heard Jerry. He shreds it I say!

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Submitted by Anatexis22 on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 12:51

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Ordered this morning at and checked my email shortly after noon and the shipping notice has already been sent out.

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 15:45

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The movie playing in Vegas during the residency will be Dead and Company: Barton Hall 5/8/23. I might just take that in. I've already paid for it.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 16:33

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Still available.
Guess not as hot a commodity as DP1.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 16:35

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....but rather be safe than sorry.
Jam -> US Blues will be here Monday.

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Thu, 05/16/2024 - 17:05

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Was surprised and going to post that as well. I literally got shut out of DiP 1 minutes after the onsale, so I'm baffled. Looking at discogs page on Dick's vinyls, the only RGM one I'll be missing is 24 3/23/74 Cow Palace Wall of Sound test. I have none of the Brookvales, but only sad about missing 8 5/2/70 and 4 2/13-14/70. They've chosen some really good ones to put out.

11/10/67 mmmmm, ahhhhhhh in my best Homer Simpson drool.

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