Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of 5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire," "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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June 1, 2024 - 12:43am

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Danehead

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Grape/Pistachio..

Love both G/P and will love this box, too.. BW for a happy weekend to you all..
June 1, 2024 - 12:16am

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Obeah

Joined:
January 14, 2017

Flavor combo

Came here via a slingshot on Mars. It's been a minute... I grew weary of getting constantly hey now'd.

Was just wondering if folks were talking about the box set rumors. And I see you have been :) Me, I don't know what to make of it. I'll certainly buy it if it's true; the Alaska solstice show is fun. And I'm always down for 1970! But if it's actually true then it's a strange brew. Like Grape Pistachio ice cream. And yet the people who like Grape Pistachio really like Grape Pistachio...
May 31, 2024 - 4:17pm

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RyXs

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Blues Bridge from 1970 to 1980

The only way this works in my mind is if the sets are really bluesy themed. For the 1970 Pig shows, that's an easy reach with songs like Easy Wind! Now for the early era Brent shows, they've certainly got a more gritty blues sounding feel than much of the Keith and Donna era. At first I do think it does sound odd, (and still a rumor) to pair 1970 with 1980, but with a bluesy motif and set list for '80, I believe one could match up the somewhat seemingly distant eras. I don't think that same philosophical idea would work for applying late '80s Brent era to primal Pig.
May 31, 2024 - 1:18pm

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gratefulgerd

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Crow...

100 % agree. That's the way I see it, too.
Different years/decades, different set-lists makes it even more interesting to listen to something new.
For comparison you always have your own personal archive.
HI '70 and AK '80 sounds very interesting to me.
And there's a lot more!
Cheers
May 31, 2024 - 12:15pm

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Crow Told Me

Joined:
October 15, 2020

I was only following order

I don't think I've ever listened to a box set all the way through in order. Or even tried.

They come in the mail, and I cue up the first disc of whichever show I'm most eager to hear, and I listen to that show, all the way through in one sitting, if possible. And then I make plans to get to all the rest of 'em sooner than later.

I did think the variety you get in something like the River box was nice. The '71 shows were significantly different from the '73 ones in every way: personnel, set lists, and most certainly audio quality. If Dave has said he values continuity in a box set, I don't what he was thinking there.

Bottom line: I just want great shows in good sound. Most (not all, but most) of the boxes deliver. Hawaii '70 and Alaska '80 would be a weird combo, but I'm-a try to withhold judgment till I hear the music. Or at least confirm the rumor.
May 31, 2024 - 11:22am

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alvarhanso

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All the years combine

And melt into a dream, but like daverock, I like more of the single year boxes. Even if it means lower distinct song count, and more of a monotonous sound if on repeated listens. Sometimes the difference between tours is enough of a demarcation point for me to strongly prefer the sound of one over the other, such as Spring '77 vs Fall '77. Fall '72 vs Summer '72. Differences between years are often more jarring, usually due to recording and equipment differences, but also musically. Pigpen to Brent in one box, with no Keith would be massively jarring. For multi-year boxes, I lean more toward the '72 shows in Listen to the River, the '89 shows in Giants Stadium, and enjoy the PacNW shows pretty evenly. 30 Trips doesn't count, I was getting that no matter what, plus, it encompasses all years, save 1965. Give me a central focus for a box, and I'm much happier. That's my view on it, anyway.
May 31, 2024 - 10:26am

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daverock

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Thematic Unity

I've never really thought about that before - but on reflection, the boxes that span different years don't really hold up as box sets for me. Both The St. Louis and North Pacific ones feature great shows - but I have never played them in the order they are presented since the first time I played them. I still hear each years shows in the context of other shows from that year - not in the context of other shows in the box they are released in.
May 31, 2024 - 10:09am

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RyXs

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Yippie Kaiyeh Billy!

I totally agree with the Kidd about a box of some 1969 Oregon shows. I've even seen a bootleg on line somewhere of a show they did in St. Hellens of all places! That venue was even more far out of town {PdXs} than Springer's Inn was, to which was also a good Down Load Series {#2, Jan. 18, 1970} release.
May 31, 2024 - 6:44am

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nappyrags

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Hiya Folks...

Both tonight and tomorrow' night's Tedeschi Trucks Band's shows from Berkeley will be streamed on nugs...some fun...
May 31, 2024 - 5:38am

#10

uncle_tripel

Joined:
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consistency & unified...

...remember folks that is any box's requirement from TPTB:

DL: We wanted it to sound sonically unified, which means if we had a PA DAT from1993 — very good shows in ‘93 that maybe someday would be released — but they just sonically wouldn’t quite hold up to the same level of the ‘87, ‘89 and ’91. Plus, ...sonic unification that all sounds good; similar to the way the Pacific Northwest sounded very similar because the recordings were made by the same recordists with the same techniques and the same equipment. Now, if we put in some Pacific Northwest, let’s say ‘77, into that box it wouldn’t have sounded at all the same because we would have also had Betty [Cantor] recordings in there, too. That was kind of how that ended up going.

I can't believe the rumor of mixing '70 GOGD w/ '80, nah...shaking my head, can't happen

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Dave's Picks Vol. 50: Palladium, New York City, NY 5/3/77

Reviewer: WolfmansBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 11, 2008 - Online Review

Subject: setting me on fire

left the orchestra section during ship of fools and arrived in the loge for the basso profundo MNS - it's the best of the tour so far, i think, and the balcony is shakin' to its raging outro leading. i sit to take a short break, too.

yet another night of the first set seeming to spill over. first half of this second set is well-played, indeed, but the sugaree is the INSANE highlight, and keith and jerry are battling it out. one of the strongest estimateds of tour and i, for one, am happy for the FOTD break. the second half belongs to jerry - eyes is short but stellar and bridges to yet another rip-your-heart-out wharf rat, and NFA showcases some down in the weeds jamming. we're stomping and clapping and grinning our faces off, and then joint is jumping for sure as they close it down. another fine UJB encore sends me out the door, so very deeply in love with this band and its music. is there anything better than being a deadhead?

Is there anything better than being a Dead Head when one of your favorite shows is officially released in its entirety? We'll double down on your sentiments WolfmansBrother, with DAVE'S PICK VOLUME 50: PALLADIUM, NEW YORK CITY, NY 5/3/77, and we'll bring the fire extinguisher to cool you off after you listen to Betty Cantor-Jackson's complete recording. Don't want the party to end? We'll stoke those embers with a few hot tracks from the first set of 5/4/77. Dave's Picks Subscribers score the monstrous second set from 5/4/77 featuring "Scarlet>Fire," "Terrapin," 'Playing In The Band," "Comes A Time," and more. Woowee!

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

The secret Bier-Polizei won't let me comment

Did this get through?

Sie konnen hier nicht schreiben

Das ist verboten

Also sprach die HN aschlochen

And now

4 5 71
2 26 77

Love em

I recently called for Manhattan center box

4 5 71 has a chunky cut in The Other One

Schade

Also sprach Proudfoot

Last one for now

I looked at the Earth Day shirts

One of them woke up my inner Beavis and Butthead

Huh huh

Shipping Notice

Just got mine!
Peace

HN as.....

sounds good to me!
G.

Spring 77

Some folks are grumpy no matter what (dot, etc.)

4-23-77

88401.miller Playing now.
Yes, I’ll take it as a cleaned up official release.

DaP50 shipping notice received.
Tracking shows that the shipper doesn’t know what I’m talking about.

.

Comfort Colors....

....I'm a huge tee shirt fan. I would think most of us are. Just got one from that company.
Top shelf quality. I'm looking at you dead dot net.
Don't you dare hey now my ....'s.

Spring '77!

Got my shipping notice AND the GarciaLive notice today--good day.

When this was announced, I pulled out the TATTS and Download Series releases from this tour. I haven't listened to many of the Spring '77 releases, so have been planning a serious go-though where I listen to the shows in order, one each month or so. The announcement of this release made me realize that it was time to do the go-through.

The shows from 4/25/77 and 4/30/77 are top-notch, so now I can absorb this release, then mosey through the entire Spring '77!

Tease

I got a shipping notice this time. UPS says, “Wha?” USPS says, “We’re waiting…”

Mike Pinder

Passed yesterday, had a great write up about him but got hay nowed and I said f it
Fix this shat g damn it.

1984

Yes, they seem to be out in force today.

Hey Now

Who can we petition?
Or will we be ignored because we are just a few hundred regular posters and they cannot be bothered to care?
Cheers

Dropping May 17

Long Distance Love: A Sweet Relief Tribute To Lowell George
1 Trouble - Mike Viola
2 Cold, Cold, Cold - Joachim Cooder
3 Long Distance Love - Elvis Costello
4 Heartache - Bedouine
5 Ive Been the One - Bhi Bhiman
6 Rock N Roll Doctor - Miles Tackett
7 Be One Now - Lady Blackbird
8 . Love Needs a Heart - Madison Cunningham
9 Easy to Slip - Jonah Tolchin
10 Dixie Chicken - Eleni Mandell and Milo Jones
11 Roll Um Easy - Ben Harper
12 Lafayette Railroad - Larry Goldings
13 6 Feet of Snow - Jack Shit
14 Cheek to Cheek - Gaby Moreno I Two Trains Running - Chris Seefried
15 China White - Chris Stills
16 A Apolitical Blues - Dave Alvin
17 Feats Dont Fail Me Now - Sugaray Rayford
18 Sailin Shoes - Taylor Goldsmith
19 Spanish Moon - Inara George
20 . Rocket in My Pocket - Sam Morrow
21 Willin - Jonathan Wilson
22 Teenage Nervous Breakdown - the Bird and the Bee
23 Crazy Captain Gunboat Willie - Andras Jones
24 . 20 Million Things to Do - Gus Seyffert
Peace

the HN shyte won't get fixed

because they don't care a scrap

vote with your wallet as that's all you can do

I haven't ordered Mars Hotel because of it

that won't bring them to their knees

and I keep posting

but no more money from me

I Agree with ADEDHED68

Hey Chowed

Hey Chowed several times.

On the way.

Hope you all get yours soon.

Now, which Dave's Picks will sell out first? 46-50 still available.

Shipping Notice...

...received. It'll arrive when it arrives. I've learned over the years not to fret over delivery dates. 5/1 and 5/5 were my first two shows, so this is a perfect sandwich. Warming up with San Berdino 2/26 and Capitol Passaic 4/27.
The Lowell George tribute has been ordered.
Off to see Willie Nelson and Family with Asleep at the Wheel tonight.
This is the first of many geezer shows this season. More later.

RIP Mike Pinder of Moody Blues

Their first seven albums are awesome

a raise of the glass to you, Mr Pinder

Coming clean

I've never understood what people mean when they put up a blank post with a little dot in the middle of it. Adedhed's was the most recent. I get the impression the poster isn't happy about something - but what it actually means I have no idea.

Dang John

How could you even post that list.

Looks sweet!

notice

came 20 minutes after I posted on 4/23.

OK Last One

Vguy - love the sentiment "You will never regret being kind."

Best way to live life!

That too me is the test or the acid test...are you kind? Great Hunter Thought.

(micro) dots in posts

I have done that when I wrote something and then thought better of it.

Dots

Cheers-that explains it. I used to see things like that floating in the air once upon a time. I never knew what that was all about either.

Shipping noticed received!....

....yeah boi!
The . in subject then a . in comment usually means the poster retracted the statement they posted originally. Rethinking the comment? Double post? Oopsie? I think I might come across as an asshole?
I'm guilty of all four.

Dot's What She Said

Shipping
.

notice

received.

Dot

all.

For now.

More dots

They're everywhere once you start thinking about them. They'll be teaching them in schools next.

Shipping

Some time last year I got one on time, I guess I had my fill for a while. I really hope somebody gets one today.

Lovin Dot

Been pondering getting a customized license plate, various ideas (has to be maximum of seven letters):

1) MICRODT

2) DROPOUT

3) MKULTRA

4 TUNE-IN or TURN-ON

With 2 vehicles it might be good to use maybe tune-in and turn-on, or turn-on and dropout dot dot dot

same old story and I know it's been told

rock and roll hall of fame

one of the biggest jokes ever

mary j blige
cher

but Motorhead question mark

can you say travesty qm

If I had my way I would tear that old building down

HEY NOW

This is so frustrating Getting Hey Nowed for?????????

GD is my favorite band of all time of course

Motorhead is second

Chuck

my sense is that it has to do with all caps and punctuation

This is telling

A spring '77 that hasn't sold out yet? Time to remaster all Dicks Picks with Plangent process, remix, remaster and reissue .

Gram Parsons and Robert Fripp Would Like a Word

I never could figure out why the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame needed to exist. It's nice when, once in a while, a talented band or artist that's generally overlooked by the masses is inducted. Like say when the Stooges got in. But most of the time it's just "honoring" somebody who's already well known and already very rich already had plenty of honors.

It's certainly not about excellence, or influence. Gram Parsons isn't in there. Neither is King Crimson. Each has contributed recordings that are indisputable classics and launched entire genres of music.

And these days it's not even about rock and roll. Nothing against country or hip hop, but artists that excel in those genres don't belong in a rock hall of fame.

I wouldn't worry too much about DaP sales. If these were still limited edition runs of 12,000, they'd still sell out instantly. And reappear on the Bay for five times the list price. Fine with me if they take a year to sell out now.

But I do like the idea of revisiting some of the DiPs. I think it goes without saying the sound could be significantly improved over what was possible 25 years ago. Come on Powers That Be, make it happen!

Dot is all.

Bands

Always a good discussion, as of now (& subject to change)

1) GOGD
2) ABB
3) Yes
4) Rush
5) Pink Floyd
6) the Beatles
7) Phish
8) WsP
9) Little Feat
10) Genesis

Now listening pleasure is a different thing. Listen to 95% GOGD, or Jerry, sometimes Kingfish. Second would be ABB, third Phish, 4th Little Feat, fifth WsP.

That causes unnecessary brain fatigue. But, time to start the jams!

yesterday on the drive home

saw a car with a rush sticker and a second one that read 2112 in the font like 26 dot 2 for marathon runners

I thought about the Rushies here

One more re Rock Hall

John Lydon called it a piss stain

indeed

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

Wonder too, why Gram Parsons is not inducted, a pioneer.
But Madonna made it.
How is Rock 'N' Roll defined?
G.

reverting to tarzan talk

bonus disc good two second sets good subscribers rejoice ungowa

My Hall of Fame

Listen to GD 99% of the time.
Then Jerry.
Then a variety including Hendrix, Rush, Floyd, Feat, ABB, Who, Zep, Stones, etc.
A favorite that is underrated is Hard Working Americans.

Phish hasn't even been nominated for the HOF....

....travesty.
Good to know we all agree that it's become a joke at this point. High five!

Yes, high five, Borat

I am so glad I saw Phish back in the day

not into them for a long time

but very glad I went in 1991 92 94

and now

Bob Dylan

Highway 61
Bringing It

great great great albums

RRHOF

I live 18 mins. from the RRHOF, and most here in CLE consider it a joke. I’ve been exactly once, when the special Grateful Dead exhibit was running. It was cool to see Dick’s reel to reel machine. It was years before the inductions were actually held in Cleveland. And the NY a-holes thought it was better to induct the home-town favorite NY bands like The Stooges and The Ramones before Rush and Motörhead. As Alex Lifeson said during his induction speech, “Blahblahblahblah…”. Silliness…