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    In my last blog, about audience tapes, I casually mentioned that the “Dark Star” from the 1/10/79 Nassau concert was my favorite of all the post-hiatus (i.e. post-’74) versions. This led to a few people respectfully disagreeing with that position in emails to me. One pledged allegiance to the 7/13/84 Greek Theater encore version, two advocated for the 10/26/89 Miami meltdown, and the fourth listed both 12/31/78 (closing of Winterland, just 10 days before the Nassau version) and 10/31/91 (featuring Ken Kesey and Quicksilver’s Gary Duncan, following Bill Graham’s death).

    I like all those other versions to varying degrees (I saw the Greek one live, so it has a special place in my heart), but each of them is so different from the others. More than any other song in the Dead canon, “Dark Star” was so mutable, one version to the next, one era to the next. So, what one person likes in a “Dark Star” another might not. It’s not like “Scarlet” > “Fire” or “Jack Straw” or “Shakedown Street” where most of us would probably agree on what the best versions are. Do you like your “Dark Star” flowy and dreamy? Spacey and dissonant? Based strongly around the main theme, or exploring odd tangents?

    As I have noted, I am a child of Live Dead. It’s the album that got me into the Dead in late ’69/early ’70, before I saw my first show in March ’70. For me, the “Dark Star” on Live Dead (from 2/27/69, I learned many years later) defined the song for me, and as a result I’ve always had a soft spot for the churning ’69 versions, which can be fairly similar (there are particular riffs and mini-jams they hit in many of them), but which have a certain momentum that I really love. Most of them never break down all the way rhythmically or dissolve into abstract noise. Most are complete unto themselves, with both verses—though the 11/8/69 Fillmore West version captured on Dick’s Picks 16 brilliantly carves up “Dark Star” with inserts of “The Other One” and a proto-“Uncle John’s Band” jam. The short and fast early ones from 1968 don’t do much for me, but by the fall of that year the song is well on its way to becoming the fantastic, elastic, trans-dimensional space vehicle that blasted off in the winter of ’69.

    By the time I saw my first couple of live versions of “Dark Star,” it had already morphed considerably from the Live Dead template. Listen to ones from 1970 and you often find that following the first verse, the song would essentially stop, and out of the nothingness might come feedback, gong flourishes, random guitar blips, bleeps and volume-knob fluctuations, and assorted craziness. Rhythm and melody would soon be re-established and other touchstone jams usually would emerge, such as the so-called “Feeling Groovy” jam and what follows it on the legendary 2/13/70 (Dick’s Picks 4) version.

    The addition of Keith Godchaux’s piano to the mix beginning in the fall of ’71 marks the next major shift in the song’s evolution, and I know many Dead Heads cherish the multitude of versions played from late ’71 through ’74 above all others. Of course that encompasses the 11 played during the Europe ’72 tour, each unique in its own way, and all riveting. (My personal taste leans toward the more rhythmic, less cacophonous excursions— Bickershaw and Rotterdam being my E72 favorites these days.) I love what the piano added to “Dark Star” during this era, and the quintet as a whole had a confidence and swing that drove the song to so many cool spaces. I never get tired of the “Dark Star” from Dick’s Picks 36 (9/21/72 Philly) nor the one from Dick’s Picks 28 (2/26/73 Lincoln, Neb.). And when I and 5,000 others had our minds blown by the “Dark Star” > “Morning Dew” on 10/18/74 (Winterland), none of us suspected that “Dark Star” was about to go on a hiatus that would far exceed the band’s own break.

    The constellation Orion captured by NASA’s Hubble telescope.

    I’ve never heard a good explanation of why the Dead didn’t play “Dark Star” when they returned to the road in 1976. Can you imagine what the versions they might have come up with in that peak year of ’77? Whoa! They brought it back for that final night at Winterland in 78, doled out two in January ’79, and then just two—12/31/81 Oakland and the ’84 Greek one—until it was revived in earnest in the fall of ’89 (released versions include the reintroduction in Hampton, Va., 10/9/89, on the Formerly the Warlocks box set and the one from the Meadowlands in Jersey, 10/16/89, on Nightfall of Diamonds).

    No doubt Garcia’s fascination with the many new timbres and textures he could get out of his guitar because of his electronic MIDI setup was a major factor in his decision to bring “Dark Star” back—it became a natural playground for his sonic experiments. But I’m not sure Jerry ever committed to most of the ’89-’94 versions (it turned up at 31 shows in that period) with the same intensity and purposefulness he brought to “Dark Star” in the late ’60s/early ’70s. That may be in part because in those earlier days there was no formalized “drums” and “space” segment, so “Dark Star,” “The Other One” (and, on occasion, “Playing in the Band”) became the places they could get free-form and weird. On a lot of the late versions, they would play a relatively brief jam around the familiar “Dark Star” theme, and then it would quickly degenerate into “space”—and that “space” usually wasn’t much different from their regular nightly mid-second-set forays. So, in that way, “Dark Star” lost some of the luster it had in earlier eras. Also, I always felt Jerry was vaguely uncomfortable singing it later on; I couldn’t tell you why.

    Don’t get me wrong: I think it was totally thrilling that they revived “Dark Star.” It was always sheer bliss to hear that familiar opening (live or on tape), experience that moment with the crowd, or find the band coming back to it later in the set, if only briefly, or simply playing around the theme and not singing the words, as they did a few times during the Bruce Hornsby era (6/17/91, anyone?). Bruce loved to tease “Dark Star,” and most of the full-on versions he was a part of were very cool. The times Branford Marsalis joined the Dead for “Dark Star” (3/29/90 at Nassau, 12/31/90 in Oakland) were truly dynamic, and nearly every version in the modern era had at least some transcendent moments.

    This far down the line from the end of the Grateful Dead, I still find it instantly transporting to hear that riff played by Furthur or Phil & Friends or anyone who tackles it. It always means we’re going some place unexpected.

    Do you have favorite eras and versions of “Dark Star”? How about post-Jerry? Or do you believe, as some do, that “Dark Star” was/is overrated?

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    fred garvin
    12 years 5 months ago
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    Yes your right blair about miami.I would still love to hear the multi track of that monster space out.
  • SPACEBROTHER
    12 years 5 months ago
    Speaking of 3/29/90....
    Why hasn't this been released yet? It's impossible for me to pick one favorite Dark Star, but I can narrow it down to 4 versions... 2/27/69 - Live Dead version 2/13/70 - Who wouldn't list this as a favorite? 5/11/72 - Rotterdam is the show from the E72 box I keep coming back to the most, though every Dark Star from this tour is essential listening. 3/29/90 - My personal favorite version currently. I love the be-bop jazz groove they go into at around the 12 minute mark.
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    DoubleT
    12 years 5 months ago
    They are all great
    There is something in each one. the 10/31/71 was a revelation when that came out. Europe 72 versions are my favorites by far. the later period ones are nice treats, even that one from Starlake 92 that is like 48 seconds long. :) The Greek version in '84....not surprised they didn't stick with it. Nothing new happened, was no different really than the Estimated and Bird Songs of that era.
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In my last blog, about audience tapes, I casually mentioned that the “Dark Star” from the 1/10/79 Nassau concert was my favorite of all the post-hiatus (i.e. post-’74) versions. This led to a few people respectfully disagreeing with that position in emails to me. One pledged allegiance to the 7/13/84 Greek Theater encore version, two advocated for the 10/26/89 Miami meltdown, and the fourth listed both 12/31/78 (closing of Winterland, just 10 days before the Nassau version) and 10/31/91 (featuring Ken Kesey and Quicksilver’s Gary Duncan, following Bill Graham’s death).

I like all those other versions to varying degrees (I saw the Greek one live, so it has a special place in my heart), but each of them is so different from the others. More than any other song in the Dead canon, “Dark Star” was so mutable, one version to the next, one era to the next. So, what one person likes in a “Dark Star” another might not. It’s not like “Scarlet” > “Fire” or “Jack Straw” or “Shakedown Street” where most of us would probably agree on what the best versions are. Do you like your “Dark Star” flowy and dreamy? Spacey and dissonant? Based strongly around the main theme, or exploring odd tangents?

As I have noted, I am a child of Live Dead. It’s the album that got me into the Dead in late ’69/early ’70, before I saw my first show in March ’70. For me, the “Dark Star” on Live Dead (from 2/27/69, I learned many years later) defined the song for me, and as a result I’ve always had a soft spot for the churning ’69 versions, which can be fairly similar (there are particular riffs and mini-jams they hit in many of them), but which have a certain momentum that I really love. Most of them never break down all the way rhythmically or dissolve into abstract noise. Most are complete unto themselves, with both verses—though the 11/8/69 Fillmore West version captured on Dick’s Picks 16 brilliantly carves up “Dark Star” with inserts of “The Other One” and a proto-“Uncle John’s Band” jam. The short and fast early ones from 1968 don’t do much for me, but by the fall of that year the song is well on its way to becoming the fantastic, elastic, trans-dimensional space vehicle that blasted off in the winter of ’69.

By the time I saw my first couple of live versions of “Dark Star,” it had already morphed considerably from the Live Dead template. Listen to ones from 1970 and you often find that following the first verse, the song would essentially stop, and out of the nothingness might come feedback, gong flourishes, random guitar blips, bleeps and volume-knob fluctuations, and assorted craziness. Rhythm and melody would soon be re-established and other touchstone jams usually would emerge, such as the so-called “Feeling Groovy” jam and what follows it on the legendary 2/13/70 (Dick’s Picks 4) version.

The addition of Keith Godchaux’s piano to the mix beginning in the fall of ’71 marks the next major shift in the song’s evolution, and I know many Dead Heads cherish the multitude of versions played from late ’71 through ’74 above all others. Of course that encompasses the 11 played during the Europe ’72 tour, each unique in its own way, and all riveting. (My personal taste leans toward the more rhythmic, less cacophonous excursions— Bickershaw and Rotterdam being my E72 favorites these days.) I love what the piano added to “Dark Star” during this era, and the quintet as a whole had a confidence and swing that drove the song to so many cool spaces. I never get tired of the “Dark Star” from Dick’s Picks 36 (9/21/72 Philly) nor the one from Dick’s Picks 28 (2/26/73 Lincoln, Neb.). And when I and 5,000 others had our minds blown by the “Dark Star” > “Morning Dew” on 10/18/74 (Winterland), none of us suspected that “Dark Star” was about to go on a hiatus that would far exceed the band’s own break.

The constellation Orion captured by NASA’s Hubble telescope.

I’ve never heard a good explanation of why the Dead didn’t play “Dark Star” when they returned to the road in 1976. Can you imagine what the versions they might have come up with in that peak year of ’77? Whoa! They brought it back for that final night at Winterland in 78, doled out two in January ’79, and then just two—12/31/81 Oakland and the ’84 Greek one—until it was revived in earnest in the fall of ’89 (released versions include the reintroduction in Hampton, Va., 10/9/89, on the Formerly the Warlocks box set and the one from the Meadowlands in Jersey, 10/16/89, on Nightfall of Diamonds).

No doubt Garcia’s fascination with the many new timbres and textures he could get out of his guitar because of his electronic MIDI setup was a major factor in his decision to bring “Dark Star” back—it became a natural playground for his sonic experiments. But I’m not sure Jerry ever committed to most of the ’89-’94 versions (it turned up at 31 shows in that period) with the same intensity and purposefulness he brought to “Dark Star” in the late ’60s/early ’70s. That may be in part because in those earlier days there was no formalized “drums” and “space” segment, so “Dark Star,” “The Other One” (and, on occasion, “Playing in the Band”) became the places they could get free-form and weird. On a lot of the late versions, they would play a relatively brief jam around the familiar “Dark Star” theme, and then it would quickly degenerate into “space”—and that “space” usually wasn’t much different from their regular nightly mid-second-set forays. So, in that way, “Dark Star” lost some of the luster it had in earlier eras. Also, I always felt Jerry was vaguely uncomfortable singing it later on; I couldn’t tell you why.

Don’t get me wrong: I think it was totally thrilling that they revived “Dark Star.” It was always sheer bliss to hear that familiar opening (live or on tape), experience that moment with the crowd, or find the band coming back to it later in the set, if only briefly, or simply playing around the theme and not singing the words, as they did a few times during the Bruce Hornsby era (6/17/91, anyone?). Bruce loved to tease “Dark Star,” and most of the full-on versions he was a part of were very cool. The times Branford Marsalis joined the Dead for “Dark Star” (3/29/90 at Nassau, 12/31/90 in Oakland) were truly dynamic, and nearly every version in the modern era had at least some transcendent moments.

This far down the line from the end of the Grateful Dead, I still find it instantly transporting to hear that riff played by Furthur or Phil & Friends or anyone who tackles it. It always means we’re going some place unexpected.

Do you have favorite eras and versions of “Dark Star”? How about post-Jerry? Or do you believe, as some do, that “Dark Star” was/is overrated?

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In my last blog, about audience tapes, I casually mentioned that the “Dark Star” from the 1/10/79 Nassau concert was my favorite of all the post-hiatus (i.e. post-’74) versions. This led to a few people respectfully disagreeing with that position in emails to me. One pledged allegiance to the 7/13/84 Greek Theater encore version, two advocated for the 10/26/89 Miami meltdown, and the fourth listed both 12/31/78 (closing of Winterland, just 10 days before the Nassau version) and 10/31/91 (featuring Ken Kesey and Quicksilver’s Gary Duncan following Bill Graham’s death).

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Personally I like the '72-'74 versions myself which follows my preference for the early Keith era Dead. I liked the jazzier versions from those years and the fact that they were developing (usually) the standalone Dark Stars from '69-'70 with a more varied texture. I can understand people going wild over the re-introduction of Dark Star in later years, especially in '84 and '89 onwards, but my taste is perhaps coloured by the fact that I wasn't a big fan of the introduction of the Midi in later years. My one and only Dark Star live was at Wembley in 1990 which was an experience alright, but if I'm honest I was looking forward more to Scarlet/Fire which we got the night before. I guess it boils down to the fact that there was never really just one band called the Grateful Dead, but many. Each era or line-up fine-tuned the sound and it's only natural that favourite songs would change, develop, mutate or whatever.
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...dajokr! Thanks! I'd like to second the recommendation for the 8/1/73 "Dark Star" (IWT). Really good one; in fact the whole show smokes!
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The show from 8-1-73 should be under consideration for release. Great Dark Star. Rhino should consider releasing a box set of the Roosevelt Stadium 72-73-74-76. It would be a great release spanning the prime years of the Dead with really great preformances. My kid went on a trip to Cleveland with his jazz band. loved exhibit of dead at Rock and Roll.
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Doesn't Legion Of Mary Volume One imply there will be a Volume Two? Sorry to stray off topic, though hardly a day goes by that I don't wonder- Where have the Jerry releases gone.
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This whole show should be a daves picks 73 smokes and this dark star takes me back to a wonderful time miss ya jerry happy birthday.Peace and dont forget to jam out one of the best shows ever 35 years ago tonight pembroke pines florida 5 22 77 the sportitorium dicks picks 3.
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that Phil gentle rumble...and then boom boom BOOM BOOOOOMMMM!!!!! giggety.
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memories of a magical evening listening to this show on tape...Dark Star...during the drums I envisioned Billy and Mickey balancing a floating energy ball between them. :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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1972-08-27 is an outstanding version that you don't mention in your blog post (fantastic post btw). Jerry goes some really weird places in the second half. He had quite a talent for finding unusual scales that fit with the music and this version is a good example of that. Really love it. My favorite is 1970-02-13 however. I save it for special occasions. It's very spiritual. Perfect for camping under starry skies at night. That sort of thing. Listen to it only about 1-2 times a year. I was just listening to the 1970-11-08 version btw. It's a standard late-'70 version, which is to say well-played, with a monster feedback section after the first verse. Goes on for a few minutes at least. I hope that some day soundboards from April-November 1970 finally surface. One can at least dream.
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...For some reason I totally spaced mentioning the 8/27/72 Veneta version, even though I love it (of course). It just slipped my mind when I was writing the blog post! (Too many "Dark Stars" in my head!) If you've read the "Taper's Compendium, Vol. 1," or subscribed to "Dupree's Diamond News" back in the day, you know that the esteemed John Dwork held that show and that "Dark Star" above all others. I don't QUITE agree (I tend not to be so absolutist about things), but I certainly appreciate his enthusiasm and well-reasoned argument! And it IS totally AWESOME!
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Blair, what is the status of releasing the soundtrack and/or video of 8/27/72. I get the feeling that all the production work is done on it. Seems in this day and age the pressing and releasing would be a somewhat minor investment. Am I doing my math right in thinking that this year will be the 40th anniversary of that show??? :-)
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I don't know what the story is. Seems like it's gotta come out someday, but if it was coming out this summer I think we would have heard by now...
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If it hasn't happened by now, it never will. This would be the most opportune time to release it (40 years later), but don't count on it. Think of it as the Chicago Cubs of Grateful Dead shows in need of release.
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The second recorded version of "Dark Star" I came across was on the now extremely valuable trible album "Glastonbury Fayre". This extraordinary effort with posters, booklets and a silver pyramid, released in 1972, was a labour of love from the counter culture. The Dead, although they never played at Glastonbury, donated Empire Pool, Wembley set from April 8th 1972. This for many, many years was the only other version I was familiar with, and although it never eclipsed the "Live Dead" version, it still holds a place in my heart. Perhaps not least for the spirit in which it materialised; as part of a long lost free festival vibe
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8/27/72 and 11/7/71 are and have been my favorite Dark Stars. The first one I saw live was 9/26/91 and for obvious reasons, is a sentimental favorite. The one I saw at Deer Creek on 6/21/93 or so, on the other hand, was like a wisp of nothingness, a Dark Star in name only, with no meat whatsoever, kind of like Garcia's long slow fade out over those last few years...
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This was my first show and I camped with three beautiful girls from art school for three spectacular days with all the comforts of acid and pot and cheap wine. We parked our butts in front of Phil's stack in front of the stage. At 19, life did not get any better than this and was a spiritually transcendent day for me. The vibes were clearly visible between my group, the boys and the rest of the audience.This was the day I got on bus. Do I actually remember the Dark Star played that day? Hell no! But it was and remains my favorite version. On our 3 hour drive back to Chicago after the show, we listened to the "Happy Trails" 8 track tape by Quicksilver loop over and over and over. Took me several hours to realize that it was not the longest album in history. I snatched up the Live/Dead album on my first opportunity and wore that one and its replacement out.
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...has always been and forever will be one of my favorite post-Dead show albums. Second only to "Live Dead" among the psychedelic albums released by SF bands DURING the 60s... Still timeless!
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Blair and anyone else who, like me, considers "Happy trails" to be a true classic should check out last year's "Anthology box 1966-1970" from Cleopatra Records and also "Lost gold and silver" from Collectors' Choice (1999). Both have some amazing versions of tunes from "Happy trails".
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I concure Blair, best post dead show album ever, the ending tune penned by Roy Rogers is my favorite bit of riding off into the sunset with a head full of acid music ever, listen to the coconuts used at the conclusion to simulate the horse shoes clogging along, even missing a step and stumbling, classic. I also agree with Mary's post, sometimes when Jerry couldn't sing, the most sweetest music I ever heard came out of him, and that Miami Dark Star from 89 is a perfect example of what Jerry could come up with when the ravages of time snuck up on him and took his voice. My personal fav of the post 76 dead, now before that, I like the 69 versions, the 70 versions, the 71 versions, the 72 versions, the 73 versions, ..... you get my drift. :)
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Since no one has tossed this comment into the mix, I might as well. I seem to recall Blair's article about the GD Video in an MTV age, just before the announcement of the All The Years Combine Box. And now we have Dark Star crashes, with the announcement of Dave's Picks Volume Three (hopefully) coming soon. And so, the searchlight is casting- perhaps even asking- Shall we go?
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You think I'm planting subliminal messages in my postings? Not a bad idea, actually... But of course I have NO comment about your DP3 theory... We'll let you sweat it out a little longer...
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Being a Deahead of the 87-95 years who did not see any of the usually noted Dark Stars, of that era, live, I have a few good ones I witnessed to throw out there.7/12/90 RFK Stadium, Washington D.C. - both verses with a long and powerful jam in the middle during a steady rain. 3/20/92 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario - power set with a Shakedown and an Other One, too. 12/12/92 Oakland Coliseum, Oakland, CA - in a mellow and spacey show, the song follows suit.
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For me, Dark Star is very hit-or-miss. The closest I came to hearing it at a Grateful Dead concert was at Soldier Field 1991 with constant teases from the keyboard section during the middle of set two. I found it rather annoying that they never broke into it and just kept teasing it out-- it seemed like forever before they actually played the next song. It did not work for me at all-- took two years off of shows after that one. On cds, I like certain era Dark Stars, especially 1969-70. My favorite is the Two From the Vault Dark Star and I am finding that I prefer versions where they stay within the song a bit more instead of drifting too far off the melody. The Fillmore 69 versions of course are stellar. There are some great jams in the Europe 72 Dark Stars that I have purchased, but sometimes I get bored with where they go. I always liked the 12-31-78 Dark Star (again, a concise version). I need to revisit that 2/13/70 version on Dicks Picks, haven't listened to it in some time.
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I was at this one and this show was a life changer. I will never forget looking up at the gold lame ceiling of Fillmore West feeling like a spaceship had taken off in the middle of itm as the music swirled... It felt like Jerry and Phil, in particular, were channeling something from above, propelling each other to higher heights. A great version that coulda just as easily been on Live Dead...
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I don't have a fraction of the Dark Star compendium in my collection as referred to by countless others above me. I can say the Live Dead is my template. That said, I was at the Hampton Coliseum that night in '89. I disctinctly remember recognizing the version as less inspired than I hoped a 'reunion' might be. That said, I also distinctly remember a very odd but real occurence... the four notes of the intro...doo doot doo dooooo. I literally shot out of my chair, arms thrust overhead, and howling like never, ever, before...clearly several seconds BEFORE my brain actually made the computations to identify it as Dark Star.I have to also say the crowd's response was phenomenal...transcenedent...multi-dimensional. Thanks for asking!
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Some of my favourites tend to slip under the radar a bit:- 28 February '69 - bubbling, brewing, threatening, darker than the previous night - 27 April '69 - maybe one of the last "Fillmore West-style" versions? - 2 February '70 - I've liked this one for a long time...it's so pretty - 24 June '70 - the transition from Sugar Magnolia back to Dark Star is one of my favourite moments of Grateful Dead synergy - 17 September '70 - a monster hiding on a not-very-good tape - 31 July '71 - a standout version in a year of, in my opinion, vastly differing Dark Stars - 20 September '90 - a magnificent post-drumz second set jam In other words, there's no pattern but I to tend to prefer the lyrical, sweeter versions over the cacophonous, dissonant versions. That being said, the 1970 versions with the terrifying periods of near-silence are always good fun!
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i do believe that dark star is over rated. it's an over-rated dead song. it was good in the '69 through early seventies period then .... it wasn't good any more. it's not such an interesting song. and in the modern era, hearing phil sing any part of it, in any arrangement, is pain.
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It was the very last song I needed to overcome as a fan to turn in the ticket. (All in) I thought for quite a long time that the song was aimless and without focus. Come hither young one. Tis the reason. I get it. Thanks guys. Fare Thee Well!!
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The Dark Star's with Tom Constanten are the best in my opinion, listening to live dead night after night with the head phones on in high school was one of the reasons I got into the Dead. There sound changed once he left and the song was never quite as riveting, always appreciated, but did not have the same energy as the late 68 through 69 versions.
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Whether or not it's overrated or not when I was at the Meadowlands on 10/16/89 Jerry's Guitar somehow sounded like we were in was giant planetarium , It sounded stellar , and on 3/29/90 and 4/1/91 it sounded like that too , and as a guitar player myself i hear much more than just noodling some notes for a while !!!