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  • Ursa Minor
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    Hi Folks, I'm somewhat new to the vine thing here at dead.net...I'm so happy that dead.net has allowed fans to do this activity here, as it should be here all along! Maybe it's been said before, but if everybody who accepts a vine PLEASE make the turnaround time within a week at the most would really be helpful...I've recieved my first vine and it has taken past 65 days for me to get it...that's a long time compared to other places that trade music via snail mail...I recently seeded a vine and the person I sent it to sat on up for more than 2 weeks...so everybody please be mindful and turnaround the discs in 3 - 4 days... thanks for the soapbox...and later this week I'll be throwing out more digital soundboards Ursa Minor
  • rambelinbearis…
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    yes
    post it as a potental new vine if it is all good she will post it if not she will let u know
  • MarkintheDark
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    Not really "technical" questions...
    ...this isn't really a technical question, but how can I determine the permissibility of posting certain things, copyright wise? I know marye put the "caveat" on the Dylan/Dead vine (since it wasn't just the Dead) and suggested that the vine might have to be retired if something came up. There are other non-Dead vines that don't carry the caveat, so do I just suggest a vine in the "New Vines" forum and wait for approval? I have one short CD to stick in a vine, it was never commercially released on its own, nothing really earth-shattering but probably of interest to somebody -- I bought an autographed copy of Phil's autobiography on eBay and it came with this CD with some music clips and Phil discussing. I guess they gave the CD away at some book signing.
  • pkpotter
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    Thanks for the comments Oroboros. Important to keep the vineyards watered. I will happily reseed any of the vines I have gotten if they have been lost down the line on the vine. Just wanted to let fellow viners know. Let me know,peace,pk
  • Oroboros
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    Bobbalee-here is how it goes
    (Copied and altered from Hunter's original instructions many moons ago)The vine goes something like this: > 1) A person starts the vine with a show of their choosing.He/she posts the show with the details and starts a list. People starting a vine should clearly print the artist/show date/disc#/and any other pertinent info on the discs themselves. I like to also add a card with the vine with all the show info. > 2) Who ever wants to get on the vine can do so as long as they have a burner and the time to keep the vine running smoothly. > 3)To get on the vine a person only needs to add their email to the list. > 4) The vine will go to the first person on the list and after that person recieves the show they must contact the next email on the list to get mailing information.Once the show has been burned you pass the origional show CD's onto that next person...so on and so forth. *Important note* There is no reason to wait until you recieve the discs before contacting the next person on the list. Feel free to contact the next in line before you get the vine.This can help speed up the mailing process greatly. > 5) ***Very important....once you receive the show in the mail you must post back to the vine to update it.Let others on the vine know that you have received the show on so and so date and what date you will be sending the show onto the next in line. This will keep all the others in the loop and will let us know if the vine has died and who has killed it.Very important knowledge for upcoming vines because if a person repeatedly kills vines then that person should be skipped over if seen posting to other vines. Other than that , there is some info that is specific to our little operation. First you should go to the most recent post pertaining to the vine you're interested in. For our purposes here on this forum we will need to highlight the text from the original message that includes what show is being vined, and the list of people who have signed up, and copy it (right click on the highlighted text and hit copy). Then start a new post and paste (again, right click where you want the text to reappear, then click paste). The copied list will apear and you will then add your logon name to the list. Since we all have inboxes here on dead.net I think it would be simpler to communicate with each other through them rather than getting into personal emails. However this is not set in stone and people can feel free to contact each other however they wish. Just make sure your contact info is available to the whole group in case somone needs to contact you. So Bobba, you click on show(s) that you are interested in and follow the above instructions in 'cutting an pasting' and then adding your name to the list. You then send a pm with your address to the person in front of you on that vine and then wait until you recieve the vine and/or notification that it is on the way. It arrives, you copy it with your CD burner for your libary, readdress the envelope and then send the original vined show off to the next viner. Hope that helps. But if you are still confused (listen to the music play) continue to ask questions. Viners will assist. That is what the vineyard is all about.
  • BobbaLee
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    Can I join this vine?
    These shows look interesting. how do I join? And the road goes on forever.... BobbaLee
  • MarkintheDark
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    Yes Dad, please keep the frozen vines alive.
    Good job Oroboros. And a courtesy exchange of PM between sender and recipient, to make sure the recipient is still available, doesn't seem like too much trouble. If somebody is going to be moving/on vacation or otherwise unavailable they can be moved down the list, rather than hold the vine up or get it lost. I'm pretty new so I'm still contacting people for the first time to get addresses, but I expect I'll "confirm the appointment" for a vine each time before sending it out. Hopefully we'll keep the "retired vines" tracked via PM, I was getting close on Egypt but was really looking forward to the Winterland shows and I was pretty far down that list. Darn'ed ol' Rhino stole the Viner's Idea!
  • Oroboros
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    This isn't a technical question, it is a request
    for all of us viners. PLEASE REMBMBER TO POST WHEN YOU GET THE VINE AND WHEN YOU SEND IT OUT. Please. I know that I got lazy with that courtesy and need to remind myself to do this. I think that it helps the vines stay alive, because we then can locate them, we know where they are or aren't, and it is a courtesy that enhances the vineyard and can be used to help keep these vines on track. Recently several vines that appeared to be dead (no pun intended) suddenly reappeared. The person recently moved and found these unsent vines and sent them off to the next viner! That is great that this individual who shall remain nameless (BennyJakes) would take the time and effort to not ignore the responsiblity that he volunteered for by being a part of the vineyard. Even though it was late. It as grate. (I must stop rhyming.) Let us step up viners in keeping these vines moving. Lets set a goal for turning them around in a quick manner. Again, I myself need to heed my own advice. Recently, the Egypt '78 and Winterland from Egypt with Love became commercially available and are now 'locked' (taking no more viners). Some of these other vines may be on the schedule for a Road Trip compiliation and while that is just what some people would like (yes, I like new releases) but do I prefer complete shows. And commercial releases would knock out some of these other great/essential vines we have here from sharing further. I know I am being a 'dad' (er.. well I am a dad) and trying to give a pep talk, but some of these vines have disappeared without a trace and that is unfortunate. I think if we get into better habits, be more responsible, and communicate more, we can do a better job of spreading these wonderful shows around and sharing what has been shared with us all. Sorry if I lectured, as I said I am a dad. AND I need to do a better job myself and will work on that. Take care, viners. And of course, VINE ON!
  • dstache
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    Sorry Gr8fulTed, I got it working, my correction post was regarding one sentence in my earlier post. T-tune won't directly import the music from the DVD, but it WILL import it from the computer. So I clicked and dragged to the Music file in my computer, then imported from there to I-Tunes. Seems to work well. Deleting stuff from the Music file in my computer as I burn and spot check. Thanks! This guy also gave me a very nice AUD of 5/14/83 I could throw into the vine. This is just a straight up WAV disc, no converting required. Sorry for the confusion, go back to investigating how to concoct the perfect grilled cheese sandwich!
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    meanwhile, back in the lab...
    ..." one man gone and another to go..." I found another software site, with FREE software, named Audacity. It may be our salvation, if you can work it! Gr8fulTed
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too. I've recently grabbed some TH, and quite a few Dire Straits so it'd be cool to hear what you've got! On the NY front I was just listening to 12/18/07, a very nice AUD recording. I'll PM you... "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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I will get it together and post it in new vines this weekend. I will make sure and put that it is shn/flac only.
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on live Talking Heads. thanks Lopezz "Let there be songs to fill the air."
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Just wanted to see how that looked in print. David Byrne is pretty much a genius, I think. I just missed seeing him here in Louisville, doing a show of the Byrne/Eno stuff (without Eno). Heard it was enjoyable. ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************
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Mark,I'm one of those. Am going to see David Byrne in Feb. :-) If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Hi, Sorta technical, and I didn't want to fill up "New Vines" with one of my long, rambling endlessly wordy posts. What is the preference regarding people from outside the US signing onto the "normal" USA vines, vs signing up on Eurovines? Recently LIG71 received the Boston Tea Party vine which he had signed up for some time ago. Turns out he's in France. He does have the vine and will be sending it back over here at some point (to me, since I'm next), but my understanding was that the Eurovines were set up to avoid the ocean crossing and the resultant 2 - 3 week delay in transit (not to mention whatever that postage is like). Are the Euroheads aware of this, or how does a person in France or wherever know they should only sign up on the Eurovines (if that is the case)? Frankly (who is in the Czech Republic) pulled out of the 1991 DSB vine because of the issue (although I said I'd send him a copy 'cause I'm a fuckin' grate guy) but LIG71 is after me on at least one vine, and as long as any vine is going to go across to Europe it seems like we should just send a copy and it can stay there and circulate, while keeping the original vine here growing. I haven't checked the Eurovine forum (guess I need to but have too many to keep up with already), how does that system work? School me. Thanks Cheers, MarkintheDark ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************
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well what normally sort of sometimes kinda happens is this... Vines started in Europe have US and Europe Versions (the latter posted on the Vines Across the Waters forum) Some vines started in the US have also been seeded in Europe if someone here asks and if someone there is kind enough to make and send a copy. They then get posted on Vines Across the Waters and circulate on. When US vines start to slow down some have also gone to and fro across the big pond. Most (but not all) transatlantic traffic has been in DVDs only , it keeps costs down and avoids the attention of customs. Most of us in Europe are quite OK with handling DVDs and someone in the US normally volunteers to make CD copies of vines coming from Europe. (If you are sending vines internationally make sure you fill in on the customs declaration that the contents of the package are a gift of no commercial value) Vines in Europe don't tend to last so long as there are not so many of us, because the post is quite fast, because we normally just use DVDs and also because many here are well hooked into other ways of getting shows. Expired Eurovines are generally offered to members of the Eurotraders site (a Yahoo group of Eurodeadheads). Since I started the Matrix vine in Europe it was also offered from the start on the Vines Across the Waters forum . The last to offer it there was grateful-ted back on October,27 so ideally LIG71 would contact him to get it. I hope that makes sense. Its all a wonderful evolved disorganisation that works pretty well because of the kindness of all involved. PS Stand by for Volume 2 of the Matrix Vine
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See the book 'Talking Heads- the band and their music' by (get ready, get ready) David Gans. Our own David Gans. It is a fun read and has some great pictures of the band's evolution. The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
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So there is a copy of the Matrix Vol. 1 already in Europe, somewhere, that LIG71 should sign on to? And are we here in the US to discourage (maybe that's not the word I want) overseas 'heads from signing up on US vines? Don't know where a viner is until he (or she) sends us his (or her) address and I'd hate to be the guy in front of the guy in Lichtenstein who's waited for a vine for months only to be outed as a European when he sends me his address. If you can follow that messy sentence there. This Matrix vine has been slow going over here, and there are seven people after LIG71. If there's already a copy over there maybe I should PM him to check on it, or at least make sure he can handle just the DVDs. This Matrix vine is a beast, as you know, and I've already promised Frankly in the Czech Republic that I'd send over a copy of the 1991 DSB vine - and I've already confirmed he *doesn't* do DVDs/flac. Unrelated: Deadheads, Talking Heads and David Gans wrote a book on 'em. That is too synchronisticly funny. Thanks for the pointer Oroboros. You guys are the coolest. ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************
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I've PM'd LIG71 and suggested he contact grateful-ted about the European Matrix (desperately trying to not sound like I'm a cheap, lazy bastard blowing him off) and also sent a PM to grateful-ted (think he's British) to let him know what's going on. Keeping my cheap, lazy bastard fingers crossed. Thanks again for the help MarkintheDark ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************
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Well I wouldn't say folk should discourage Euroheads from signing up, just check if the vine originated in Europe, because if it did there should be a Euroversion circulating. Euroheads like Sunshine Daydream (and to a much lesser extent me, Greg McFarlane and others) have started lots of vines and sent them to the US...and many folk over there have been kind enough to send stuff the other way when asked. I reckon it is up to each individual to decide if they want to make a copy to send across the pond (in which case the recipient should definitely then offer it on the Vines Across the Waters forum) or to include the Eurohead on the regular vine (postage each way takes 7-10 days)
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hey nowcan anybody help with directions on how to download shows and transfer them to CD. i do not have any teen agers or younger kids to help! lol
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Well it depends on what web site you are attemping to download from . I just sent you a PM, check your in box . Hopefully that will help you . If you need more help just let me know , if I can`t help I`m sure someone here can help you out . Peace ...
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downloaded traders little helper, how do i use it? how do i convert the flac files so i can put them on an audio cd? any and all help is appreciated.........
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Step 1: download the music to your hard drive. I have a PC and download to "music" in "owner" and "desktop." Step: 2: open TLH, click "format" then "decode audio files" in the dropdown Step 3: you are now in "decode audio files"-click "add" and find and highlight the files you want to decode, then click "open" Step 4: once you have added all the files you want to decode (I suggest limiting it to 1 show, any more and the likelihood of errors seems to increase) click "decode." The files will start decoding. Step 5: once the files are all decoded, go to where your downloaded files are and you will see the WAV files.
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when i go to decode i get a message- cannot open output file(likely it does not exist or is not accessable) now what to do here.........help i'm technologically challenged!!
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the light goes on, and we have success, now what is the prefered program to use for a gapless playback cd?
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I use I-tunes. You have to change the settings to 0 seconds btwn tracks. I think you go to preferences and advanced to do that.
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try burn4free on burn4free.com supports gapless CD creation. Happy listening!
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burn your CDR set to "Disc at Once." If the setting is "Track at Once," it will put those annoying gaps between tracks.