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  • izzie
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    I am going to have to not read this topic in the morning anymore. It just pisses me off. I get yelled at often enough at my dayjob for things that are beyond my control.... Look, we're frustrated too, okay? But there is nothing we can do for you, with regard to the store, that really, you can't do for yourselves. Here is the email address, yet again, for the store people. customerservice@deadnetstore.com I know that's not as fun as letting off steam here, but if you want to blast the people in charge, there's your sign. They may not provide you the immediate gratification that MaryE and I seem to provide in this outlet, but at least you'll be heard. And creating a record of discontent where it matters makes more sense to me than just venting over here. Thanks for listening. izzie
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    you guys blew it
    by withdrawling the vault downloads series in lossless format you have assured that these recordings will be traded illegaly - most hardcore GD fans i know who collect thousands of hours of recordings aren't going to download any significant quantity of lossy crap from itunes and they aren't going to let the fact that they are no longer available for purchase to stop them from acquiring them. . ITUNES can't even get the name of "MARS HOTEL" right. Most deadheads I know will pay a few cents more for the lossless CD with a case, a cover, and can be converted to a WAV, an MP3 or a FLAC. the itunes track comes in 1 crappy lossy format. dumb move - really really stupid.
  • cosmicbadger
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    thanks to you too Marye....hey I just realised you got that lot for breakfast..sorry..it was lunchtime for me when I lost my cool! I'll get back in my box now!
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    we are passing this on. Thank you.
  • cosmicbadger
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    going backwards for European deadheads
    so there I was happily buying and downloading DPs and Download Series thru Dead.net when I had some spare cash.....then the whole lot stops. Now all I can do is buy Downloads (and only some DPs) thru iTunes you folks in the US may not be aware that iTunes will only sell you items thru the site in the country where your credit card is registered..so I cannot buy from iTunes US. And guess what. iTunes France (where I live) does not sell DP or the Download Series. So I am shut out completely. Folks in Europe only had sporadic chances to see the Dead and now we are not even allowed to hear them! Perhaps this is for the same reasons that French Fries became Freedom Fries!! Who's in charge here? They shut down SBDs on archive.org presumably to make some money, but don't seem to want my hard earned cash. Make your minds up please! Either give it away or let us buy it!!! Look, I know you nice folks who moderate this wonderful site are not personally responsible for this mess, but the fact remains that all the music that was available as downloads thru the old site no longer is on the new one. Can you PLEASE use whatever contacts you have to express just how infuriating this is. Oh and please also say a big big thanks to David L for maintaining the lifeline that is 'Tapers' Section'...............at least someone is thinking of us!! 'Big Boss Man...can't you hear my call??????????
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    I checked out the Download Series on iTunes, and I gotta say, I'm pretty disapointed. They are now only available as 128k sound files in Apple's audio format, what a bummer. When these were for sale on dead.net they were available in multiple file formats, and with no DRM. I really appreciated having these shows available in FLAC format for the great sound quality. I always opted for the FLAC files. And it was nice to have the jewel case inserts to download also. I'm sure the Dead organization have their reasons for doing what they do, but come on, these shows deserve much better treatment then being turned into another overpriced, crappy sounding iTunes product. I don't have the entire Download Series, and I would like to buy the ones that i don't have, but I refuse to buy them from iTunes. These are great shows, please bring them back to dead.net where they belong! And on a much happier note, I love the 3FTV release. Great sound quality, and a great show! My thanks to everyone involved for puting out that fine show. Keep 'em comin' Rhino!
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    Well, I finally received my copy of Three from the Vault today (hooray!). First off, the re-mastering is awesome! Really sounds great.This was an interesting show on many levels (Micky's last show the day before, a slew of new songs). Total rocked out Dead. Lean and mean. No time for subtlety, just hard assed rock and roll here. A prelude to Skull and Roses. Billy really played his heart out on this show! Wow! There were times I think he overplayed a bit, but I think I can empathize (his bother had left and who knew when he would return?) He seemed to be trying to fill in all the space left by Micky. The MVP's of this show were (IMHO) Pigpen and Phil. Pig is in total command during his numbers. Phil is just sick throughout. First set: It's hard to really say much about Loser, Bertha, and Playin'. They sound much like they did the night before. It's unfair to criticize the performances as the band is still feeling their way around the songs. Okay, so Truckin' takes a little bit to get truckin' but eventually they manage to get something going. Cumberland is tight and fun, despite the lyrical flubs (who cares about missed lyrics at this point anyway? I just fill it in myself). Dark Hollow is a nice little nugget. I don't think I've ever heard an electric version before. The band throws out a stunted and perfunctory China, but they really get running during a spirited Rider. The MVP of the first set is Pigpen. Man he is in great voice throughout, really pushing the band. It Hurts me Too and Smokestack are incredible. I've always thought the Dead's blues playing was as if really advanced and hip aliens from Alpha Centauri had learned to play the blues and genetically engineered Pigpen from the DNA of Lightnin' Hopkins and Odetta. Interstellar blues! I love Jerry's eerie hoots and whistles during Pigs rap in Smokestack. Set Two: Greatest Story and Deal are to new to really comment on. But Bird Song is a nice debut. Raw, but well performed. Wharf Rat, on the other hand, seems as if it had been sprung Athena-like from the ether as a fully formed song. Sure it would become a bit more dynamic, but this performance, as well as the debut performance the night before, are brilliant. (The Wharf Rat on 2/18 comes out of Dark Star and goes into Beautiful Jam>Dark Star. Yeah.) So, to continue, I actually like the JBG here. I've never really thought the boys ever did JBG justice, but this one is alright. Easy wind is some more psychedelic-swamp blues. Very tasty grooves. Pig is in full command. That's it For The Other One gets tasty during the Other One section. Phil is really on fire. This would be a good version to play for someone you want to turn on to the Dead. Good Lovin' is fun. Pig's rap is funny, although he seems to run out of steam toward the end. Maybe a few minutes too long. All in all, a decent release. Sound is stellar; can't ask for much better than this. A lot of green curios I probably won't listen to much, but a few kick ass bluesy performances I'll definitely return to! Yo Soy Boricua!
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    After reading all the comments and replys. It seems you guys have really sold out. It's a real shame, and I'm sorry to say, that Jerry isn't stearing this ship anymore. I can imagine he's spinning like a top where ever he is. iTunes only. Apple is the Beatles. They, that were left, should have done all they could to have Jobs and co. change the name in the very beginning. While I don't particully like Bill G. and his hold on OSs etc. I won't buy into i.... anything. Everything I've learned is from The Grateful Dead and Buffy The Vampire Slayer.
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    It's all good Izzie. No
    It's all good Izzie. No problems getting the first release (1-1-77!). **it happens. I will survive.
  • izzie
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    Jeeze, REK. I'm sorry you've had to deal with this. I'll get this to the attention of the store folks, but that's all we can do here. Customer Service is supposed to be getting better, for what that's worth. Our admin folk here on this side of the house are as blown away as we are about the level of service at the Store.
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Discuss here! (And if the show of your dreams isn't out yet, post your request here: https://www.dead.net/forum/top-my-request-list.)
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I wish I could spell "diminished" Happy Trails
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VFTV II DVDVFTV II soundtrack CD Closing of Winterland DVD Ticket to New Year's DVD (it was there for a week or so last fall) GD Movie DVD Rare Cuts and Oddities CD (best oldies set EVER!) - and it's high time for the announcement of Road Trips 3.2 !
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With the plethora of video from shows that has to be out there, why can't another DVD be released? I don't care what era or venue, I'll take anything!!! I'd like to do it before my kids get out of high school.
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from Dancing Bear:"- and it's high time for the announcement of Road Trips 3.2 !" I was thinking that myself. I'd also like to see a re-release of the Mother Mcree's - that was fun. I lent my copy to afriend and never got it back!
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will be Recorded live at Municipal Auditorium Austin, TX (November 15, 1971) > > All selections are previously unissued recordings > > DISC 1 > 1. Truckin' > 2. Bertha > 3. Playing In The Band > 4. Deal > 5. Jack Straw > 6. Loser > 7. Beat It On Down The Line > 8. Dark Star> > 9. El Paso> > 10. Dark Star > 11. Casey Jones > 12. One More Saturday Night > > DISC 2 > 1. Me And My Uncle > 2. Ramble On Rose > 3. Mexicali Blues > 4. Brokedown Palace > 5. Me And Bobby McGee > 6. Cumberland Blues > 7. Sugar Magnolia > 8. You Win Again > 9. Not Fade Away> > 10. Jam> > 11. Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad> > 12. Not Fade Away > 13. Johnny B. Goode > > FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY get the Road Trips Vol. 3 No. 2 bonus disc with your order. This offer is first come, first serve. > > The Road Trips Vol. 3 No 2. bonus disc was recorded live at Texas Christian University in Forth Worth, Texas (11/14/71). > > 1. China Cat Sunflower> > 2. I Know You Rider > 3. Sugaree > 4. Truckin'> > 5. Drums> > 6. The Other One> > 7. Me And My Uncle> > 8. The Other One> > 9. Wharf Rat> > 10. Sugar Magnolia from Eurotraders
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Hi, I am new to this forum. I have a quick question for you folks. I am looking for a good youtube clip of the song Shakedown Street. I have listened through a few that come up & was hoping to hear a few of the fans faves too. Thanks in advance!
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I sent the following email to customer service, but thought I might get a more satisfactory answer here: "I can't help but notice that a number of CDs are disappearing from the store on Dead.net, especially some of the Dick's Picks series. With the holidays fast approaching does GDP plan to get more of these in stock? The problem is that many of these albums are still in high demand and their lack of availability at a fair price at dead.net creates an alternate economy that often results in price gouging - an aspect of capitalism that the Dead never supported (I think that's fair to say). Why not let the band/company get some of that money and keep their customers/fans happy at the same time? It's a win-win, no?" This is especially true of the higher numbered DPs - with the extreme examples being Vols. 25, 28, 32, and 34. The re-sale prices for these are astronomical. I'll gladly give my money to GDP at the listed price. (And I realize that these are available in FLAC, but I prefer having the physical CD. I can make my own FLAC and mp3s, plus if something happens to them I can always just re-rip.) Thanks! ------------------------------- "Is maith an scéalaí an aimsir." Time is a great storyteller. -- Irish Proverb
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I noticed that some of the Pure Jerry releases have also disappeared from the store. In particular - Pure Jerry: Merriweather Post Pavilion - September 1 & 2, 1989. Is it already out of print or just temporarily out of stock?
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I'll see what I can find out
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Just out of curiosity how does everyone else file these releases? Never sure what's best do I go, official, Dicks Picks, Vault, Road Trips, or do I file according to date of gig or release date, or do I just need to chill and enjoy!! Think I'll go and lie in a dark room.
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Do you mean "file" as in "list in a word or excel document"? I go in chronological order and have a column where I can put the source ID or other info such as "Dick's Pick # 14." Enjoying it is most important though!
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I ponder how to file and have changed the shelves over the years, but here's how they now stack: The studio CDs are together, then Dick's Picks in chronological order. The Road Trips are together in order of release date as I tend to listen to most recent first .... then a big shelf has all the main releases chronologically. My logic is this. The size and style of the releases all differ, and being a former storeman I like things to look 'ordered' - and there's something magic about seeing a row of DPs and Road Trips all happily living side by side. This does mean that particular eras are not together, but I tend to play more decent purchases and so Road Trips are now in their own section.
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are all in one box (another box of Jerry and related dead CDs)I have the Picks sorted by volume - I maybe missing one or two - plus the fact that 2 or 3 are only in digital on my computer as for all the live dead albums/shows I have on my computer I basically have folders based on the year recorded. this is a work in progress with my recent additions from the archives and vines.
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Sorry dstache, I should perhaps have asked how other people "store" their C.D's. i.e on their shelves or C.D. racks. I have tried various options but as SimonT states sometimes the problem is the different sizes of the boxes which often makes things look untidy. I suppose I was just thinking out koud but nice to hear other viewpoints.
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is whatever happens to work for you. It's your "file," right? So it only has to work for you. I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised to find that someone who requires a little adventure in their music might completely eschew the notion of any "system" at all. Nothing like blindly sticking your hand into the pile and seeing what fate has in store for you right now. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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Oh, if you are talking about storage, I switch over to sleeves a while back. If you are a serious collector, you listen on CD, and you don't have a lot of space, you have to switch from jewel cases to sleeves. I have my entire collection (over a 1000 shows if you count JGB and related configurations) in a library card catalogue-style cabinet. The link will take you to what I have: http://www.spinkeeper.com/chfilide.html I don't know if that is where I got it from. It says it holds about 450 CDs, but if you use sleeves rather than the jewel cases, it must hold at least 2000 CDs, if not more. It is getting pretty full though :)
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'stache, your trick of inserting a piece of paper inside the sleeve so you can put two in one sleeve. Brilliant! " Where does the time go? "
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got one wall unit that holds close to 900 - Stones/Zeppelin/Hendrix/Dylan fill up the top two shelves(clapton bands and the who fill up the 3rd row) as mentioned below - the dead collection exploded so I cant keep them anywhere but in a box haha (a nice box tho - CDs fit 3 wide) - a couple other racks that hold ~200 - one filled nearly by just female artist.... no way I give up my jewel cases tho - I even try to hang onto the stickers that they put on the cellophane - remember the long (cardboard) box CDs used to come in? - I got an old Jack Daniels case full of them. Not the common box but the ones with nice artwork. If you think I'm a pack-rat - guilty.
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Yet it is organized enough for me to be able to find what I need fairly easily. The shows are listed in Excel. My main "library" consists of several hard drives filled with shn/flac. When I want to listen to something I can either move the files to iTunes for iPod listening or I'll convert to wav and burn CD's. I gave up trying to store the CD's all nicely in jewel cases since frankly I ran out of room!! Now when I purchase a reel of CD's and/or DVD's I keep the empty reel (they empty quickly =) and store burned CD's in those. You can hold over 100 CD's per reel. So far, a couple of reels per decade has been working out. If I convert a shn of flac to wav or mp3 I note that in my Excel spreadsheet so I do not do any repeat burnings. It works for me!! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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I've been using these little guys for the time being... http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Goodies+-+Foldable+CD+Storage+Box+-+Black/9… they work well, but I may need another storage idea as I will probably be buying tons and tons of these boxes for my shows. I use the slim jewel cases and I'll type up the setlist, venue, date and source info on those CD templates in Microsoft word and Open-Office that you can print out. The only problem is it can be costly with printer ink, not to mention it can take a while sitting in front of the computer typing them out. I may change to paper sleeves and just writing the info on the back by hand....all in all though me and my buddies came up with a saying: "It's for the Vault!" From the previous posts, I too have wondered if dead.net will be restocking any of the Dick Picks because prices on amazon and elsewhere are pretty crazy. I've been wanting to get Dicks Picks 19 and they have the lowest price close to $50 on Amazon. A Dicks Picks CD package would be terrific!!!
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I have 2 400 CD carousel players from Sony (Also a 400 DVD carousel) They are cheap when you compare the price and compactness to and speed of access to other storage options. However, I have moved most of my music to my computer, and am deciding on how to arrange it there. Right now it is but Album name but I am putting in the comments the data field in 19700404 format (Family dog) to be able to do a chronological sort.
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Can anybody tell me if the road trips are going to overlap the 12 (+1) digital down load series? I haven't had time to do a complete comparison, and will not fill holes with lower Bit rate versions available if they are coming out again here. Thanks in advance
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for this one!!!!
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I was listening to a friends Tour set from Munckmusic, and noticed that he had two copies od Disc 1 from 6/29/03 Vernon, NY and is missing Disc 1 St. Louis 7/2/03. After Rhino took over publishing rights, Munck stopped selling the discs. Any help in locating this Disc ( Even electronically) would be appreciated. I believe somewhere out there is a person with the Limited edition Box set missing Vernon NY with 2 St Louis Disc 1s.
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I am one of the lucky ones with this set, but i must confess that I still haven't listened to the whole thing yet. I will check my set and see if I have/have not got the discs that you mention. With 86 CDs in the "Summer Getaway 2003 Tour" set and a further 105 CDs in the "Wave That Flag 2004 Tour" set, it will keep my ears busy for awhile yet. I will post here again when I have checked it out.
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Hi all, I just noticed that the store has a few Dick's Picks that were previously out of print including #27, 28 and 4. Not sure if this was ever announced, but I notice these are always in demand on ebay (I've been looking for 4 and 28 for a while). Wish they'd do 25 and 19 again...maybe someday....
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Can anyone tell me where I can get the song listings for Dick’s Picks series? There is one I would like to get from this store but I can’t remember which volume. I believe it had 2 Cold Rain and Snow’s on it. I would like to get it before it too disappears from the store.
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try deaddisc.com I know there are two versions (one instrumental) on 'Birth of the Dead' but apart from that???
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Thanks for the link. All the track listings were there for Dicks Picks. I must have been thinking of something else because you guys were right, no release with 2 Cold Rain & Snow's. At least the Europe '72 has a couple. Thanks again for the link.
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Listening to Madison from February 15, 1973 makes me dream of a multi-show run from 2/73.Dane County Coliseum hosted a few great performances: 10/25/73 and 2/3/78, to mention 2.
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Hey folks, Not sure if this has ever come up, but would anyone else beside me like to see a re-release of all the Dicks Picks into a big ol' box set? I only have Vol. 1 at the moment and I think it would be great for anyone who doesn't have much of the collection or really for anyone that simply want's it. Of course I'm grateful we have the Europe '72 tour set coming soon, but maybe some where down the road.....
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Before the site switched over to the Rhino version, you could order the DPs in blocks of 6 (1-6, 7-12, etc) at a discount. They even offered the whole set...I think it was $600. Maybe if you call...? Probably not. :/ It would be nice to see discounts if you met certain price points since practically everything is sold at "MSRP."
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I've noticed more DP's are missing from the store and I would like to order a DP from 76 before it is not in stock. What would be recommended, DP 20 or DP 33?
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I really like the strong performances from the 2 day October '76 run in Oakland. The Who were also on the bill, as part of Bill Graham's Day on the Green concert series.
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I agree with GTed about the Oct. shows - and they were more or less at home. But you need them both - the cover art is a trip on DP 20 and the Sugar Magnolia to end the 2nd of the four discs is positively ecstatic! Before DP 20 was released the Sugar mags was cut - now and forever we can hear it in all its glory. Do it!!! " Steal Your Jazz "
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Anyone know where the edits are on the official releases and which have edits? For example, stuff that's removed entirely or where AUD sources have been patched in. I know there's a patch on several releases like the Summer '71 Road Trip (Dark Star I think) and the Valentine's '68 Road Trip (Alligator?). Is there one on Dick's Picks 1? I thought that pick was heavily edited. I wish they'd be more forthright about these things. Inquiring minds want to know. Maybe they think the sales volume would go down if this type of detail were known.
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I think I will break down and order both. With DP selections missing, I could regret not getting both. How is the sound on these two DP's? I wonder why all the DP's are not kept fully stocked or if some are gone for good? That would be a true shame.
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If I may speak for GTed, the sound on each is awesome - the coolest thing is that they are different venues entirely and each has its own sound world. It's a matter of taste which you prefer. " Steal Your Jazz "
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I recieved a email today from Dr. Rhino: Me: Does Rhino plan on re producing any of the Dicks Picks that are currently out of stock? Dr. Rhino: Dear Nathan, Thank you for your email. We do not have current plans to reissue the following volumes: 19 24-26 28 32-34 I do not have any information as to when/if any of the other out-of-stock volumes will be reissued. I will forward your message to our suggestion box. Seems to me that the current trend is once it's out of stock then it's gone for good. I'll just settle for the downloadable Dicks Picks in FLAC.
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I was just getting ready to order 20 and 33. 33 is now gone and per Long Dead's message will not be available again (CD). Really sucks! Why would you let a legacy like this disappear? I don't want to get jaded but this really is depressing. I better hurry and order some DP's before they are gone.
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Just ordered DP 20 before it is gone. I can see a rush of orders after Lond Dead's update. Thank you Long Dead for alerting everyone.
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It's unfortunate that so many of these titles are going by the wayside. I understand that keeping the entire Dead catalog in print isn't an inexpensive proposition, but if in fact they did not or do not now have the intentention of keeping titles in print , then it would be nice for the powers at be to at least clarify their policy somewhere on this site, preferably in some sort of disclaimer. As a long time jazz collector I queried Michael Cuscana and Tom Everett from The Blue Note division of EMI and they were not secretive when when they told me that a title has to sell at least 500 copies a year for them to be able to keep said title in print. I also know first hand that when enough of us rallied for an unreleased session to be be put out, many times they would re-examine the session with fresh ears and a few times even put the session out. Again I'm not knocking the fact that it costs money to warehouse all these titles but as a loyal consumer I'd like to have the information to make informed choices. I've already missed out on a few Dick's Picks from the last batch when they were released because I ordered them, they got backordered and eventually canceled after I think thirty days. By the time I even thought to reorder them they weren't listed. Sure, I could have been more diligent as a consumer, but I didn't always have time to keep checking back, especially pre-smartphone era. Knowing the intention of the company would go far in ensuring that the Dead's loyal fan base can avoid a painful flogging from the eBay and now amazon profiteers. Anyway that e-mail from Dr. Rhino is still worded vague ... But yeah, right now it seem like the Flacs are still available. Get your DP 20, it is quite good.
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My opinion is that DP's are a legacy and should be made available - cd version. But of course that is easy for me to say.