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    September 3 - September 9, 2007
    We have a tremendous variety of music for you this week, spanning almost 20 years of the Grateful Dead’s recorded history, and we hope you’ll find this week’s journey as enjoyable as we did while preparing it for you.

    As we mentioned last week, we have a bit more music from the Family Dog in San Francisco, specifically the encore from 9/6/69, a nice Pigpen-led Midnight Hour, with plenty of good jamming in the background.

    Our next chronological stop on this week’s trip is 9/9/72 at the Palladium in Hollywood (venue of the performance of one of the best-ever versions of Hard To Handle, in 1971). From this show in 1972, we have the second set jam of He’s Gone>Truckin’>The Other One, which features a reel flip that is just a fact of life in these 7” reel-to-reel tapes, which run at 7.5 ips, meaning the tape is changed every 47 or so minutes. It’s always fortunate when the cuts are located in acceptable places, like this, rather than the brutal cuts that often destroy the listening experience. This one really isn’t too bad.

    At this point we jump forward a year to 9/7/73 at Nassau Coliseum, with a song that mightn’t be what people think of first when they think of 1973: Looks Like Rain. This is a really great rendition, and just sounds so darn good, we thought you’d enjoy it. And, for a dose of quintessential 1973 music, we have the first set closing song from the same show: Playing In The Band. I really can’t get enough of these 1973 Playing In The Bands, and this one certainly doesn’t disappoint.

    Going forward to 1985, to 9/3/85 in Kansas City, we have the pre-Drums sequence featuring That’s It For The Other One>Eyes of the World>I Don’t Need Love. The “Cryptical” part of the sequence in 1985 never quite matched the energy or perfection of the 1969 versions, but the “Other One” portion of the song is very good, as is the Eyes and the rare Don’t Need Love. This is drawn from the Beta PCM digital masters.

    Lastly this week, we have a couple of songs from London on 4/7/72, specifically Pigpen’s Chinatown Shuffle and a powerhouse Me and My Uncle.

    As sometimes happens, we have no idea what we’ll have for you next week, but looking at what we have to select from, it’s bound be to be a nice selection of some excellent music. Let us know what you think by writing with questions, comments, suggestions or requests.

    David Lemieux
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    jillybean
    17 years 1 month ago
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    whine, whine, whine, we deserve blah blah blah... rat bastards... boycott... gotta love this shit - been going on for 30 years and still going strong. loved the 72 stuff this week!
  • dead tanuki
    17 years 1 month ago
    David Gans's 8-gig comment
    was made in response to a specific poster's complaint. Somebody asked if it was so wrong to want a few freebies for their iPod, and Gans asked why 8 gigs of freebies weren't enough. Basically it seemed like he was responding to the "sense of entitlement" that many have been pointing out as being on display recently. As far as that goes, I think his comment was fair, and doesn't rate him being called a "tool" (as he was shortly thereafter) or "holier-than-thou." Like D Lemieux, you have to applaud D Gans for making available what he does--check out GDHour 421 posted this week, fantastic pre-Dead Jerry--and assume that the format decision wasn't his. That said, I found his comment momentarily jarring, too. Is it really such a good idea, from the organization's perspective, to ever suggest to a Deadhead that s/he has enough Dead? I mean, most of us have between dozens to hundreds of hours of Dead (thousands, even). Even somebody who has bought all the official releases to date has more hours of Dead than most people would consider necessary for most any band. To want more--maybe it is crazy. Maybe we'll all wake up one morning and think, "hey, I guess I DO have enough Dead--who needs more Vault releases? I think I'll start collecting blues records instead." This has to be Rhino/GDP's worst nightmare... On the other hand, parents/friends/lovers/spouses have been asking us this for decades--"don't you already have enough Dead?"--and it hasn't stopped us yet. So I guess this won't, either. (I have to add that, personally, I'm less bothered by the "sense of entitlement" folks than by all the people complaining about the "sense of entitlement." It's just a little too Rush Limbaugh for me...)
  • izzie
    17 years 1 month ago
    queasy...
    You know, the best thing for me about next Monday morning is that I won't have to wade through the pages of vitriol for at least 12 hours or so. Unless, perhaps, the flogging of this particular former equine has passed. I wish I had an in with David L.... I'd request a whole page of just screamin' Brent tunes.
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We have a tremendous variety of music for you this week, spanning almost 20 years of the Grateful Dead’s recorded history, and we hope you’ll find this week’s journey as enjoyable as we did while preparing it for you.

As we mentioned last week, we have a bit more music from the Family Dog in San Francisco, specifically the encore from 9/6/69, a nice Pigpen-led Midnight Hour, with plenty of good jamming in the background.

Our next chronological stop on this week’s trip is 9/9/72 at the Palladium in Hollywood (venue of the performance of one of the best-ever versions of Hard To Handle, in 1971). From this show in 1972, we have the second set jam of He’s Gone>Truckin’>The Other One, which features a reel flip that is just a fact of life in these 7” reel-to-reel tapes, which run at 7.5 ips, meaning the tape is changed every 47 or so minutes. It’s always fortunate when the cuts are located in acceptable places, like this, rather than the brutal cuts that often destroy the listening experience. This one really isn’t too bad.

At this point we jump forward a year to 9/7/73 at Nassau Coliseum, with a song that mightn’t be what people think of first when they think of 1973: Looks Like Rain. This is a really great rendition, and just sounds so darn good, we thought you’d enjoy it. And, for a dose of quintessential 1973 music, we have the first set closing song from the same show: Playing In The Band. I really can’t get enough of these 1973 Playing In The Bands, and this one certainly doesn’t disappoint.

Going forward to 1985, to 9/3/85 in Kansas City, we have the pre-Drums sequence featuring That’s It For The Other One>Eyes of the World>I Don’t Need Love. The “Cryptical” part of the sequence in 1985 never quite matched the energy or perfection of the 1969 versions, but the “Other One” portion of the song is very good, as is the Eyes and the rare Don’t Need Love. This is drawn from the Beta PCM digital masters.

Lastly this week, we have a couple of songs from London on 4/7/72, specifically Pigpen’s Chinatown Shuffle and a powerhouse Me and My Uncle.

As sometimes happens, we have no idea what we’ll have for you next week, but looking at what we have to select from, it’s bound be to be a nice selection of some excellent music. Let us know what you think by writing with questions, comments, suggestions or requests.

David Lemieux
vault [at] dead.net
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hey first i believe people are allowed their opinion. this episode goes back to live archive. does anybody realize that most of us are truely appreciative of the efforts of dave gans and dave L. we are just having fun and whining for the heck of it. most are over the angry faze. so dont take our whining serious because we know nothing is gonna change back to the glory days. so enjoy the whining and go on with our lives. whining is a good pressure reliever. whine,whine,whine,etc.
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David L.,I love this Playin. Thank you for getting that to us. I'm a 73' gal at heart and you're right, the Playins' from 73' are some of the very best. alta
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Can't we just appreciate what we still have. Stop the nasty ass comments and whining. Does it make it better? It is what it is here. Be here now or leave. It's such an easy choice.alta
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tj crowley if we focus on waht we don't have...we can't enjoy what we do have...go back and listen to those gig's that we were allowed(?) to download...
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My comment contained two parts; do not overlook the second point - audacity. I used to be able to get regular samples of Dead jewels here at Dead.net, but they want to take this away. Fair enough, but don't expect me to visit here any more. Especially now that Sirius is broadcasting these same nuggets. All that is needed is a patch cord running from my receiver to my PC and audacity running to capture, record and convert the music to an mp3 file. Not quite as elegant as a straight mp3 download, but dead.net has decided after 18 months (or there about) to stop providing this. They state that downloading was never intended. Sorry to say but they must be incredibly naive to create a section, label it "Tapers Section", stuff it full of mp3's and not expect people to download them. Who the hell are they trying to con? Nobody is that stupid. Now back to my point. I could care less if Rhino & Sirius have a deal. Of course they have a deal. And I have no problem recording these broadcasts and playing them in my car, at work, when I travel or listening to them on my mp3 player. My ultimate point is that I won't be coming back to this location for new music clips - hell they don't want me too anyway. So goodbye & good ridden. We part on amicable terms.
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The stages are: 1. Denial : The initial stage: "It can't be happening." 2. Anger : "Why ME? It's not fair?!" (either referring to God, oneself, or anybody perceived, rightly or wrongly, as "responsible") 3. Bargaining : "Just let me live to see my son graduate." 4. Depression : "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?" 5. Acceptance : "It's going to be OK."
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Of course we are going to download the given tunes, why wouldn't we. (David and all involved folk)...remember, timeless moments happen when things are just groovin. don't control the time, expecting us to listen to our favorites while we are in front of the machine? what about car rides, the beach, picnics, shit man think about it. if your gonna provide this music, take the leash off it! Vive' garCia!
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Boy, I'd sure pay a buck to download this version of Pigpen attacking Midnight Hour!
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I see the recent development with regret. None of us can claim an entitlement to free downloads. As marketing, however, it seemed a logical continuation of the long, successful tradition of making more music available to generate interest. I have long purchased official releases and traded non-copyrighted shows. I listened to a great deal of music from this site. I didn't download it - I tried but was unsuccessful due to my own technical limitations. Downloading didn't seem inappropriate. It seemed to be the intent. I listened to the music on my office computer, including stuff from years in which I had previously had little interest. In this way, the marketing worked. If I could have downloaded the music, I would have played more of this music more of the time, and I expect that my interest would have grown, and I would have pursued and purchased GD music from outside my previously narrower parameters.I don't know if others are able to play any of the posted music now. I can't. The vitriol in some prior comments is unwarranted, but I would urge you to restore the format as it was. It was a great way to continue some form of community enjoyment of the music we love, and, for the business side, to maintain and/or generate interest among your existing market. I remain grateful for the abundance of free music that has been made available, and I urge you to continue an overwhelmingly successful tradition. Peace. Steve Conners
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I've been reading this crap for several day and i get it!!! you can't save it to your hard drive. well get a dubbing cord and a program like nero and record back to hard drive and then you have for ever! why cry about it when you can fix it! loop the cord from the out then back to the in! I just don't get why every one has to be so pissed, give me a break you baby!!!!!!
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Sorry, but the streaming stuff just doesn' cut it. It makes the "official Grateful Dead" site 2nd-rate...unless you're just in it for pretty artwork. I thought we'd get better treatment after almost a year of "under construction". I know, I know--I'm ungrateful and there's plenty of other avenues for crisp, tasty live Dead music whether it be via Internet d-loads or friendly circuits; however, the way the Tapers Section plug was so suddenly pulled on this particular site is a big turnoff. The only reason I've remained logged on is to make this personal feeling known. Can't imagine coming back much in the future. Thanks anyway but streaming blows! Tapers Section was great when MP3's were allowed. Incidentally, I would pay monthly fee as others have suggested... Deadhead-Dan
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No, I don't think you do get it.Keep trying though. Maybe someday you'll understand what us "babies" are upset about. I'll give you a hint - it has nothing to do with building a more complicated mouse-trap to take an inferior sound source and degrade it further. Like someone once said - "Don't piss on my leg and then try to tell me it's raining" Ah.......another wast of good cyber-space. Richard
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We are just minutes away from new material to stream!! If your not happy w/ these arrangements go elsewhere for your live dead!! I agree the removal of the mp3's sux but i'm a fan and alway's will be!! Its sad to me that we who have so much can find so much to bitch about!! I remeber tapes i recorded in the 70's that i completely wore out from playing!! This digital age is truly a Phenomonon!! Rogue
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Why don't you guys just plug a tapedeck/dat/mini-disc recorder to your audio output of your computers soundcard, and just record the audio you want to keep. It's relatively easy enough to do. It's not as easy to save as DL'ing an MP3, but at least you can still record them for future listening. It's just like recording a FM Broadcast from the radio.......... I'm sure you all can figure it out!