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By request: a topic for discussing what genre a particular Grateful Dead song belongs to, its influences, etc.

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categorize that incarnation

GD65=groovy
GD66=nascent
GD67
GD68
GD69=raw
GD70
GD71=harmony,rockbilly
GD72=professional
GD73=experimental, jazzy
GD74=complex, cerebral
GD75
GD76=loose
GD77=ethereal, tight
GD78=aggressive, ripping, muscular
GD79=chunky
GD80
GD81
GD82
GD83
GD84=greasy
GD85=sloppy, unpredictable
GD86
GD87=happy, fun
GD88
GD89=large, juggernaut
GD90=clean
GD91
GD92
GD93
GD94=retrograde
GD95=incomplete

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High Time

To me this sounds like a George Jones cryin'-in-your-beer, honky-tonk song. The Dead can sometimes sound like country, but truly, there ain't no country that sounds like that.

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Just found this link from the newsletter

Here Comes Sunshine--definitely the Beatles being channeled here, maybe even a tribute to them. Not just the title, but the sing-songy chorus in bright harmony. Even the ending on the album fades into modal weirdness like one of the pieces on Magical Mystery Tour

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Influences, genre

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a song that sometimes bends the very notion of time; like it pulls us into it's own orbit. the slower versions almost seeming to go backwards.
did they ever slide into after a Drums/Space? feels right like Stella Blue did.
a treacle-y moment to be had 03/24/86 at The Spectrum, Philadelphia. will it grind to a halt? like it's performed in quicksand.
it's influences, i cannot say; but another that feels so right when it appears.

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High Time

Thoughts on High Time, anyone?

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It's All Good

Iko-Iko. Didn't mean to offend. Guess this thread isn't for me. Maybe Jonapi's impressionistic approach is better than a dry breakdown (1/2 teaspoon blues, 1/4 cup reggae...) with scholarly references. Maybe I am just an old fuddy-duddy who listens to what he likes and leaves it at that. Sorry to intrude.

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Here Comes Sunshine

yeah id like a copy of that. Trust me im totally aware that alot of the gd rep. Is reworkings of traditionals. I just thought this would be interesting for those musicologists out there who cant just settle for "well its just good music." Thanks for the info on TLEO though. I guess the next tune.is Here Comes Sunshine.

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Roots

In his fanzine, Golden Road, Blair Jackson had a column--I think it might have been called Roots--forget--anyway, it ran for a while--not sure if it was in every issue. You might want to track those down. Blair was selling back issues--not sure if he still has any--PM "blairj." Quite a few GD tunes are just rehashes of older folk things; Sugaree (look for Elizabeth Cotten) and Stagger Lee are good examples--Casey Jones another. I have only seen the cover in a bookshop (didn't open it), but the Annotated Grateful Dead is probably a good source of what you are after. The Dead are a great entry-point to a lot of genres and the originals of their covers are well worth seeking out. They Love Each Other is actually a thinly-veiled reworking of "Jump Mama Shindig" by the Honeys--a fifties doowop group out of Philadelphia--one of Frank Zappa's favorites, if memory serves.

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Yes

Thats the point. Genres. Who may have influenced. They love each other is still the song.

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