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  • January 28, 2015 - 6:20am
    direwolf860
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    unused lyrics/poetry
    I am a songwriter wanting to honor the dead for the influence they had during my formative years. I will soon be in studio to cut a new album and am seeking out any written works that were never recorded or used in any way, anyone know where I should look??
  • July 28, 2014 - 9:53am
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    Fire On The Mountain (Moses/Exodus connection)
    Greetings, As it seems there is no way to post directly to the 'Annotated Fire On The Mountain' page, I will post here for lack of any other options directly linked to Deadnet. I was recently doing research on the Old Testament of the Bible, and working around the 'fire on the mountain' (exodus 19:18) where Moses speaks and "the voice of God answered him", I stumbled onto an interesting piece of Scripture that may reveal a bit more of the lyrics to FOTM, and possibly bring light to some of Hunter's mixed-metaphor. In chapter 35 of Exodus, Moses assembled the entire Israelite community to elucidate the commands of the Lord regarding the specific construction of the Tabernacle, the moveable temple which would contain the Ark of the Covenant. Unlike most other commands in which choice was not an option, this exceptionally-important decree was to involve a 'Freewill Offering', whereby it reads: [(5)"Take from among you a contribution to the LORD; whoever is of a willing heart, let him bring it as the LORD'S contribution: gold, silver, and bronze, (6)and blue, purple and scarlet material, fine linen, goats' hair, (7)and rams' skins dyed red, and porpoise skins, and acacia wood,…"] These materials, explicitly outlined by God and commanded through Moses, were all very precious possessions and useful daily resources among the nomadic Israelite people. Nowhere in the scripture does it say that ANY materials were bought, traded for, or in any way sourced externally-- all of these items had to come from WITHIN the possessions already owned by the people. The fact that this is coupled with the notion of a 'Freewill offering' means, by design, that in all likelihood not everyone was so eager to give over their treasures for the edification of the Tabernacle at the expense of their pocketbook: "Long distance runner what you standing there for? Get up, get off, get out of the door You're playing cold music on the bar room floor, drowned in your laughter and dead to the core There's a dragon with matches loose on the town Take a whole pail of water just to cool him down" Freedom of choice was permitted here, where an individual might stand reluctant amid throngs of neighbors rushing to sacrifice their own 'water to quench the Lord's fire'...and it may be that in some way what Robert Hunter penned was a view from a house in which someone or some people were confronted with the moral dilemma of self vs. community. The timing and tension is almost palpable, as social pressure mounts, as group conscience intervenes, as (through a mixed metaphor) the 'wood kindling' is close to the desired effect of a 'blaze': "Almost aflame still you don't feel the heat Takes all you got just to stay on the beat You say it's a living, we all gotta eat but you're here alone there's no one to compete If mercy's in business I wish it for you More than just ashes when your dreams come true." Finally, I believe the key to this layout being true lies in a specific lyric: "Long distance runner what you holdin out for? Caught in slow motion in your dash to the door The flame from your stage has now spread to the floor You gave all you got, why you wanta give more?" This seems a bit strange in lyrical context, almost nonsensical. Why would the narrator-witness protagonist contradict themselves by describing a verbal encounter of pressuring the antagonist, and then immediately speak of holding the same antagonist back? The answer lies in the SEQUENCE of these events, not in the concurrent phrasing of them. Chapter 36 of Exodus describes how, once all of the necessary building materials were gathered, all willing Israelite craftsmen were called into duty, but [(36:3)"the people continued to bring freewill offerings morning after morning.(4)So all the skilled workers who were doing all the work on the sanctuary left what they were doing (5) and said to Moses, “The people are bringing more than enough for doing the work the Lord commanded to be done.” (6) Then Moses gave an order and they sent this word throughout the camp: “No man or woman is to make anything else as an offering for the sanctuary.” And so the people were restrained from bringing more, (7) because what they already had was more than enough to do all the work."] "The flame from your stage has now spread to the floor You gave all you got, why you wanta give more?" The preceding line: "Long distance runner what you holdin out for? Caught in slow motion in your dash to the door" is the final push or nudge of the protagonist upon the antagonist, which is directly juxtaposed with the final line of the verse, occurring perhaps an hour or more thereafter, as poetically the antagonist has undergone the right moral action, and the 'flame is ablaze'. At that point Moses calls for a cease-fire of donations in order to allow the craftsmen some room to breathe. Though Hunter likely had other ideas and motifs involved with this song, as all the others, I am confident this portion on ideology and biblical history played a role. It is a joyous song, a meaningful and timeless lyric defining the possibility of moral righteousness with a bit of social boosting, a celebration of the otherness of the supreme Deity, and a tale very much human.
  • December 27, 2011 - 9:54am
    marye
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    heh
    the spam is gone, but the testimonial lingers on. Great work, ddodd!
  • December 26, 2011 - 10:49pm
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    One of the Greatest Books on Earth.Even the spam knows it, HA! Great thread, xo!
  • February 21, 2011 - 8:41pm
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    I have the Lyric Book and Jerry's large Bio Book
    I got the book for a birthday present from my boyfriend after Jerry died. I enjoyed reading about Jerry's birthday and even though I have just about every thing they dead recorded I found the book on the lyrics very injoyable.
  • January 19, 2011 - 12:44pm
    marye
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    cool
    glad to hear it!
  • January 19, 2011 - 12:41pm
    WallsTV
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    ok its back
    it's back..sorry for the alarm. "I never meant to cause you any harm" BHIC
  • January 16, 2011 - 8:17am
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    Holy Crap!
    Maybe the server is down today 1-16-2011 but I was going to check out the site and it came up like this: Whoops! Page not found. 404 Error - The page that you are looking for cannot be found. Division Home Art Film and Digital Media History of Art and Visual Culture Music Theater Arts David please tell us you have the html coding and info for this site stored somewhere else, so at the least it could be put up online! Even with Facebook today you could do something, or free website hosting. I'm so bummed! WallsTV "I never meant to cause you any harm" BHIC
  • July 9, 2009 - 8:18pm
    Richard Vigeant
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    Gift
    Just received it from my daughter Sarah who found it in a HMV store in Mtl for CAN$10. Can't wait to discover what I missed when I did'nt really understand english.Share the LOVE! Richard.
  • January 16, 2008 - 9:23pm
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    Just a thanks for the
    Just a thanks for the compilation. I remember back in maybe '94 or '95 checking that site out like it was religious. I've always referred to it still to this day. That site alone helped me expand my knowledge in the music by the Grateful Dead as well as the band members independent work and others as well. Also, have the book and love it. Sometimes when I need to think deeply about something I'll look in the book to extend off of or just fro pleasure. The brilliant minds of writers stun me. A dream we dreamed one afternoon long ago... ________________________ www.autoquoteresearch.com
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http://tinyurl.com/2uoa8w this stuff is A - fucking Mazing!! kudos to David. I have enjoyed this site for a long while. and if you are like me that enjoys the more tactile approach to reading, you can pick up a printed copy to read on the go. nice airplane reading! http://tinyurl.com/2nrbpz just trying out the tiny url thing...
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Thank you all for the kind words. Stay tuned for some interesting news as to the future of the online Annotated GD Lyrics--good stuff will be happening!
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Now I know what versus out of NSRV to look at etc...I can sing the FULL lyrics of the mother goose rhymes to my kids... THANK YOU David!!
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when I said this stuff is A fucking Mazing, I meant Dodd's work, not the tiny url thing. ( -;
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Rob Wiener of Lubbock Texas ( my good friend) was also a co -author. His contributions were significant as well.
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Hello, Well, it turns out that the annotated lyrics website will not be moving to dead.net, which had been my hope, after all. For now, the site is frozen in its current state. There's plenty of material there, and it will stay as long as the University Of California at Santa Cruz consents to host it. By the way, Rob Weiner was my co-author on the annotated bibliography, not on the website or the lyrics book. Just for the record! --David Dodd
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I was just thinking that the website has to be where I first dove into the Lyrics of the Grateful Dead and even sculled back around to an old poetry obsession. I picked up the new paperback edition, for my road trip. I really love the fact that it is a full size edition! Nice work. I left my hardcover edition in kind hands. Wondering about a bit of what seems to be a haze surrounding the Friend of the Devil creation. The paperback edition of The Complete Annotated Grateful Dead Lyrics seems to list Words by Robert Hunter and Music by Jerry Garcia and John Dawson, A Box of Rain lists Garcia, Dawson, and Nelson (on page 369, left hand column, bottom of page, paperback edition.) That one is of course all lyrics by Robert Hunter. I know, what is the advice??? when you get confused, just listen.............. (but still, I can't let the discrepancy go without at least trying to ask someone else..)
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Just a thanks for the compilation. I remember back in maybe '94 or '95 checking that site out like it was religious. I've always referred to it still to this day. That site alone helped me expand my knowledge in the music by the Grateful Dead as well as the band members independent work and others as well. Also, have the book and love it. Sometimes when I need to think deeply about something I'll look in the book to extend off of or just fro pleasure. The brilliant minds of writers stun me. A dream we dreamed one afternoon long ago... ________________________ www.autoquoteresearch.com
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Just received it from my daughter Sarah who found it in a HMV store in Mtl for CAN$10. Can't wait to discover what I missed when I did'nt really understand english.Share the LOVE! Richard.
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Maybe the server is down today 1-16-2011 but I was going to check out the site and it came up like this: Whoops! Page not found. 404 Error - The page that you are looking for cannot be found. Division Home Art Film and Digital Media History of Art and Visual Culture Music Theater Arts David please tell us you have the html coding and info for this site stored somewhere else, so at the least it could be put up online! Even with Facebook today you could do something, or free website hosting. I'm so bummed! WallsTV "I never meant to cause you any harm" BHIC
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it's back..sorry for the alarm. "I never meant to cause you any harm" BHIC
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glad to hear it!
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I got the book for a birthday present from my boyfriend after Jerry died. I enjoyed reading about Jerry's birthday and even though I have just about every thing they dead recorded I found the book on the lyrics very injoyable.
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One of the Greatest Books on Earth.Even the spam knows it, HA! Great thread, xo!
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the spam is gone, but the testimonial lingers on. Great work, ddodd!
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Greetings, As it seems there is no way to post directly to the 'Annotated Fire On The Mountain' page, I will post here for lack of any other options directly linked to Deadnet. I was recently doing research on the Old Testament of the Bible, and working around the 'fire on the mountain' (exodus 19:18) where Moses speaks and "the voice of God answered him", I stumbled onto an interesting piece of Scripture that may reveal a bit more of the lyrics to FOTM, and possibly bring light to some of Hunter's mixed-metaphor. In chapter 35 of Exodus, Moses assembled the entire Israelite community to elucidate the commands of the Lord regarding the specific construction of the Tabernacle, the moveable temple which would contain the Ark of the Covenant. Unlike most other commands in which choice was not an option, this exceptionally-important decree was to involve a 'Freewill Offering', whereby it reads: [(5)"Take from among you a contribution to the LORD; whoever is of a willing heart, let him bring it as the LORD'S contribution: gold, silver, and bronze, (6)and blue, purple and scarlet material, fine linen, goats' hair, (7)and rams' skins dyed red, and porpoise skins, and acacia wood,…"] These materials, explicitly outlined by God and commanded through Moses, were all very precious possessions and useful daily resources among the nomadic Israelite people. Nowhere in the scripture does it say that ANY materials were bought, traded for, or in any way sourced externally-- all of these items had to come from WITHIN the possessions already owned by the people. The fact that this is coupled with the notion of a 'Freewill offering' means, by design, that in all likelihood not everyone was so eager to give over their treasures for the edification of the Tabernacle at the expense of their pocketbook: "Long distance runner what you standing there for? Get up, get off, get out of the door You're playing cold music on the bar room floor, drowned in your laughter and dead to the core There's a dragon with matches loose on the town Take a whole pail of water just to cool him down" Freedom of choice was permitted here, where an individual might stand reluctant amid throngs of neighbors rushing to sacrifice their own 'water to quench the Lord's fire'...and it may be that in some way what Robert Hunter penned was a view from a house in which someone or some people were confronted with the moral dilemma of self vs. community. The timing and tension is almost palpable, as social pressure mounts, as group conscience intervenes, as (through a mixed metaphor) the 'wood kindling' is close to the desired effect of a 'blaze': "Almost aflame still you don't feel the heat Takes all you got just to stay on the beat You say it's a living, we all gotta eat but you're here alone there's no one to compete If mercy's in business I wish it for you More than just ashes when your dreams come true." Finally, I believe the key to this layout being true lies in a specific lyric: "Long distance runner what you holdin out for? Caught in slow motion in your dash to the door The flame from your stage has now spread to the floor You gave all you got, why you wanta give more?" This seems a bit strange in lyrical context, almost nonsensical. Why would the narrator-witness protagonist contradict themselves by describing a verbal encounter of pressuring the antagonist, and then immediately speak of holding the same antagonist back? The answer lies in the SEQUENCE of these events, not in the concurrent phrasing of them. Chapter 36 of Exodus describes how, once all of the necessary building materials were gathered, all willing Israelite craftsmen were called into duty, but [(36:3)"the people continued to bring freewill offerings morning after morning.(4)So all the skilled workers who were doing all the work on the sanctuary left what they were doing (5) and said to Moses, “The people are bringing more than enough for doing the work the Lord commanded to be done.” (6) Then Moses gave an order and they sent this word throughout the camp: “No man or woman is to make anything else as an offering for the sanctuary.” And so the people were restrained from bringing more, (7) because what they already had was more than enough to do all the work."] "The flame from your stage has now spread to the floor You gave all you got, why you wanta give more?" The preceding line: "Long distance runner what you holdin out for? Caught in slow motion in your dash to the door" is the final push or nudge of the protagonist upon the antagonist, which is directly juxtaposed with the final line of the verse, occurring perhaps an hour or more thereafter, as poetically the antagonist has undergone the right moral action, and the 'flame is ablaze'. At that point Moses calls for a cease-fire of donations in order to allow the craftsmen some room to breathe. Though Hunter likely had other ideas and motifs involved with this song, as all the others, I am confident this portion on ideology and biblical history played a role. It is a joyous song, a meaningful and timeless lyric defining the possibility of moral righteousness with a bit of social boosting, a celebration of the otherness of the supreme Deity, and a tale very much human.
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I am a songwriter wanting to honor the dead for the influence they had during my formative years. I will soon be in studio to cut a new album and am seeking out any written works that were never recorded or used in any way, anyone know where I should look??