Grateful Dead

Fall '77 Part 1 Vine

started by yamadog and dstache

Fall '77 Part 1: 9/29,10/9,10/11,10/14,10/29,11/1

Ok, we are all set on this vine. Along with the original shows of 9/29 Seattle, 10/14 Houston and 10/29 DeKalb, Yamadog has graciously offered to add 10/9 Denver, 10/11 Norman and 11/1 Detroit. The mail here in NYC takes forever so it will be at least until the middle of next week before I even receive the extra shows, so I am shooting for sending these out to our friend Richard right after the New Year.

FYI, as most of you probably know, much of the 2d set of 10/11 is commercially available as hidden tracks on DP's # 29 (discs 2 and 5, everything but the Est > Eyes). So that won't be on the vined discs.

Grateful Dead - October 9, 1977
McNichols Arena - Denver, CO

Recording Info:
SBD -> Master Reel -> Cassette -> Dat (48k)

Transfer Info:
Dat (Sony R500) -> Sound Devices 744T -> Samplitude Professional v9.12 -> FLAC
(2 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC)

All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller
charliemiller87@earthlink.net
December 5, 2007

Notes:
-- Disc change is seamless
-- Many flaws cleaned up
-- Tape flips in Brown Eyed Women and He's Gone
-- Sounds like a beat is missing on Truckin' intro
-- Encore missing

Set 1:
d1t01 - Tuning
d1t02 - New Minglewood Blues
d1t03 - They Love Each Other
d1t04 - Cassidy
d1t05 - Dire Wolf
d1t06 - Looks Like Rain
d1t07 - Brown Eyed Women
d1t08 - Lazy Lightnin' ->
d1t09 - Supplication
d1t10 - Sugaree
d1t11 - The Music Never Stopped

Set 2:
d1t12 - Samson And Delilah
d2t01 - Scarlet Begonias ->
d2t02 - Fire On The Mountain
d2t03 - Estimated Prophet ->
d2t04 - He's Gone ->
d2t05 - Truckin' ->
d2t06 - Drums ->
d2t07 - Terrapin Station ->
d2t08 - Around And Around

Encore:
xxxxx - Casey Jones (MISSING)

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Grateful Dead - October 11, 1977
Lloyd Noble Center - Norman, OK
University of Oklahoma

Recording Info:
SBD -> Master Reel -> Dat (44.1k)

Transfer Info:
Dat (Sony D8) -> Samplitude Professional v9.11 -> FLAC
(3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC)

All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller
charliemiller87@earthlink.net
October 1, 2007

Set 1:
d1t01 - Help On The Way ->
d1t02 - Slipknot! ->
d1t03 - Franklin's Tower
d1t04 - Jack Straw
d1t05 - Peggy-O
d1t06 - El Paso
d1t07 - Sunrise
d1t08 - Deal
d1t09 - Let It Grow

Set 2:
d2t01 - Dancing In The Street (Omitted)
d2t02 - Dire Wolf (Omitted)
d2t03 - Estimated Prophet ->
d2t04 - Eyes Of The World ->
d2t05 - Drums ->
d3t01 - Not Fade Away -> (Omitted)
d3t02 - Wharf Rat -> (Omitted)
d3t03- Around And Around (Omitted)

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Grateful Dead - November 1, 1977

Cobo Arena - Detroit, MI

Recording Info:

SBD -> Master Reel (7 inch reels @ 7.5ips 1/2trk) -> PCM -> Dat (44.1k)

Transfer Info:

Dat (Sony R500) -> Samplitude Professional v8.01 -> FLAC

(2 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC)

All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller

charliemiller87@earthlink.net

February 13, 2007

Notes:

-- Start of Friend Of The Devil is cut

-- Reel flip in Truckin'

-- Thanks to muletaper for the Dat

Set 1:

d1t01 - Might As Well
d1t02 - Jack Straw
d1t03 - Tennessee Jed
d1t04 - El Paso
d1t05 - Friend Of The Devil
d1t06 - Looks Like Rain
d1t07 - Dire Wolf
d1t08 - Passenger
d1t09 - Peggy-O
d1t10 - The Music Never Stopped

Set 2:

d2t01 - Tuning
d2t02 - Terrapin Station ->
d2t03 - Estimated Prophet ->
d2t04 - The Other One ->
d2t05 - Drums ->
d2t06 - Wharf Rat ->
d2t07 - Truckin' ->
d2t08 - Around And Around

Encore: d2t09 - U.S. Blues

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9/29/77, Seattle, Paramount Theater

One Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo [9:19] ; Mama Tried [2:39] ; Deal [#4:16] ; Looks Like Rain [6:36] ; Ramble On Rose [6:59] ; El Paso [#0:31] ; Sugaree [12:#30] ; Let It Grow [9:30] ; Franklin's Tower [16:42]

Two Samson And Delilah [6:23] ; Ship Of Fools [6:59] ; Estimated Prophet [9:31] > He's Gone [11:04] > Drums [4:37] > Truckin' [9:#40] > Stella Blue [12:59] > Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad [7:58] > Johnny B. Goode [4:15]

Encore Uncle John's Band [9:49#]

Comments: Recordings SBD 180 with the following cuts: A minute or two off the beginning of Deal; El Paso is missing all but the final verse; the splices In Sugaree and Truckin' appear To be minor tape flips; And Uncle John's Band cuts off near the end, It is not A major cut.

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10/14/77 Houston, Hofheinz Pavilion, U of Hou

One Jack Straw [5:03] ; Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo [11:22] > El Paso [4:06] ; Brown Eyed Women [4:53] ; New Minglewood Blues [5:05] ; Loser [7:#09] ; Passenger [3:24] ; Friend Of The Devil [8:13] ; Me And My Uncle [3:08] ; Tennessee Jed [8:46] ; The Music Never Stopped [4:16#]

Two Bertha [7:08] > Good Lovin' [5:59] ; Candyman [7:28] ; Playing In The Band [16:#56] > Drums [3:35] > The Wheel [7:15] > Wharf Rat [13:49] > Around And Around [8:23]

Encore Brokedown Palace [5:51] > Playing In The Band [4:13#]

Comments: Recordings SBD 180. Cuts In Loser And Playing In The Band are relatively minor tape flips, cutting off of the Music Never Stopped is criminal And likely On the master. Playing In The Band Reprise cutoff is probably less than A minute.

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10/29/77 DeKalb, Evans Field House, N. Ill Univ

One Might As Well [5:20] ; Jack Straw [5:41] ; Dire Wolf [3:37] ; Looks Like Rain [8:13] ; Loser [7:23] ; El Paso [4:26] ; Ramble On Rose [6:58] ; New Minglewood Blues [4:50] ; It Must Have Been The Roses [6:25] ; Let It Grow [12:41]

Two Bertha [7:46] > Good Lovin' [6:09] ; Friend Of The Devil [7:56] ; Estimated Prophet [11:15] > Eyes Of The World [12:55] > Space [7:38] > Saint Stephen [8:03] > Drums [2:58] > Not Fade Away [7:32] > Black Peter [12:12] > Sugar Magnolia [8:53]

Encore One More Saturday Night [4:55]

Comments: Recordings AUD 180 And SBD 180. Timed from an audience copy except for Friend of the Devil supplied by SBD.


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on the way to unclejon

on the way to unclejon

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missing?

I replanted part of this vine already so I sure the hell hope not.

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update ?

ok ,, anyone know where this one is ? yet another missing vine ?

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Fall '77 Pt. 1 update

I received the vine 5/19 - it is ready to roll. I pm'd chinacat a request for an address and have not received a reply. I will send to reedchris Thursday AM should there be no reply - I have your address rc.

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Sorry For the trouble

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Their on their way to you...I've had some troubles on my end ( not with the shows )..No excuse for this delay though...Can only offer my apologies and make sure it doesn't happen again..Tom

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Last Ditch

3rd time's a charm - knock on wood. Another e-mail was just sent. Should it not receive a reply, dstache has volunteered his services to reseed his end of the vine - 9/29, 10/14, 10/29 and I have 10/11 - anyone got the other two?

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Fall '77 Update

It's been 24 hours - I sent to thomasdblls a second e-mail requesting a reply and I again included my address. Tom? A... Tom?

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Erickat rocks...

UncleJon

Nice job tracking these down...we needed a good shot in the vine to perk it up a little...

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Fall '77 Pt.1 Vine Update

Apparently, we're about to be reboarding the bus - Tom has an address to send the package. Special thanks to erickat's investigative abilities to get to the root of this vine.

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Update

So - it looks like I'm becoming the Vine investigator - or at least I'm paying attention to what's going on.

I sent Thomasdblls a PM & he responded on May 4.

From: thomasdblls
To: erickat
Subject: Re: Fall '77 Part 1 Vine
Date: May 4, 2008 - 9:17am

> Did you ever get this? Nobody is updating the vine, so we can't tell if it's dead or just slow.

> > On April 26th, 2008 dstache said:
> > Last I see this vine was on its way to thomasdblls over a month ago. Any updates?
> >
> > thanks,
> > Eric
>
> Eric,
> Yes I have it and two others(Sept 73-I think its one of the Eurovines and another one 12-69 Boston Shows). On one was a person listed after me, at this moment I don't know if it's the Fall 77 or Sept 73, I sent him 2 PM's for his address and he never sent me anything back.
>
> On the other vine no one is listed after me, last time I checked. So I don't know what to do. However the Dec 69 shows are no longer listed or at the least I can't find the vine and I've checked every possibility, I don't remember signing up for it(though I probably did). I've been meaning to send a general what's up message but time has not been on my side lately.
>
> So if you have any ideas about what to do with these 3 vines let me know. In the meantime I will continue searching the vines and Pm'ing whoever is on the list and also alerting everyone about the Boston shows. I guess I should of already done these things but I have been very busy, I know it's no excuse....
>
> Anyway let me know if you think of anything
> Later Tom

My response was... Socrateazer indicated on a previous vine that he was going into the hopital & wanted to be withdrawn from the vine.
If he doesn't respond - PM the next on the list. I have addresses for chincaat503, reedchris, and unclejon

Hopefully, this will get going again soon. I sent him an email today as well.

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