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These two shows would make an excellent box set along with another show on the tour with a good source.

But the idea of flipping in the middle of a song (3X no less) is totally hack, though I do understand the limitations.

Hey Gang,We are releasing Dicks Picks vol 3 and 4 on vinyl March 19th. You can pre order now at www.BrookvaleRecords.com These are from the original tapes and mastered for vinyl by Jeffrey Norman. See below for his comments. Thanks for your time. FROM THE ORIGINAL MASTER TAPES! Mr Norman talks about mastering vol 3 and 4. “I was excited to get the chance to remaster the early Dick’s Picks’ releases for vinyl…they were originally mastered for CD in 1995-96, and I was looking forward to hearing the 1/4″ source tapes once again, 17 years later. What I didn’t expect was the dramatic improvement the new mastering gives to these classic releases. The original CD resolution is 44.1KHz/16bit (as is any released CD), while the mastering I am now doing for the vinyl releases is 96KHz/24bit. I’m now using a state-of-the-art analog to digital converter (Pacific Microsonics Model 2)….and I’ve probably gotten better at doing this over the years! I used the original CDs as a guide for the new mastering, but when listening to the CDs I feel like I’m listening in black and white, while the new mastering feels like I’m listening in color. It’s very exciting! A few observations: the mixes for Dick’s Picks Vol. 3 and Vol. 4 couldn’t be more different. The Pembroke Pine show (Vol.3) is quite bass strong and powerful. The Fillmore East show (2/13-14/12) on the other hand is very bright and a little bass shy. Both represent the ears and interpretations of the mixers at the time (Betty Cantor Jackson at Pembroke Pines, and Bear at the Fillmore East), and both capture the quality and excitement of these shows. I did some equalization on both shows to enhance the presentation but kept true to what the original mixers intended. As typical of all Grateful Dead shows, both these two shows are very dynamic….there’s a wide range of volume from quiet to very loud. I tried to keep the dynamics intact, with very little limiting, using limiting mainly as protection against digital overs. In choosing the songs for each side of vinyl, the goal was to be true to the flow of the show and keep the fidelity as high as possible. There is a physical limitation to the length of a vinyl side….if it gets too long there is a loss of bass and level. Ideally the sides would be no longer than 20 minutes, and for the most part that was accomplished. However there are a few sides that are longer than ideal, but because of the way the music lays out there was no way around a few longer lengths. Also because of those side length constraints, there are some songs that had to be split in two (i.e. Vol.4 Dark Star, The Other One, and Lovelight)…sorry, you’re going to have to flip the record to get the entire “good stuff”. Considering that these tapes are 40 years old (in the case of Vol. 4, Fillmore East), they sound phenomenal! There are some issues on the original recording that can’t be fixed (i.e.. L/R movement side to side in Vol. 3 Eyes of the World), but that in no way takes away from this great music.”

2/5-8/70 – Fillmore West;2/11-14/70 – Fillmore East (Let's be honest, Dick's Picks, Vol. 4 doesn't really do this justice); 4/4-6/71 – Manhattan Center; 4/25-29/71 – Fillmore East; 6/9-10/73 – RFK Stadium; 7/27-28/73 – Watkins Glen; 2/22-24/74 – Winterland; 6/22-23/74 – Miami; Anything from Europe '74; 10/16-20/74 (how about this ~15 disc set for October '14?); Pretty much any multi-night theater run from '76; 3/18-20/77 – Winterland; 4/25-27/77 – Capitol Theater; 12/27-31/77 – Winterland; 7/17-19/89 – Alpine Valley; 10/11-15/89 –East Rutherford (in fact, go for any run on this tour); The complete MSG '90 run, or Europe '90. Take your time, though.

now that i've digested this beast. I love it, the music is top notch and now that you exquisitely marketed the hell out of it and got your $200 bucks a pop it's time to release the rest of the shows from each stand at the going rate. Everyone here knows there wasn't a bad show that spring, by the Summer Tour they were about to self combust (RIP Brent). The last night of the stand mentality was okay but, let's have the rest of the best... I've been seeing the band since 2/4/78 and continue to see FURTHUR as well as spend my hard earned coin on the products, so Europe put me into having to work overtime hours to afford it and though it was great and the setlists were somewhat static I love it! I'd love to be able to purchase entire runs from Uptown Theater,Chicago or Spectrum, Philly. Red Rocks, Greek, Frost etc hell It would be nice to have to the option to buy any show from 1989 and where are the videos man? You guys gotta have at least a couple of spot on 92-95 shows to share!? The cover bands in that AVMT night out at the movies were fantastic, release that Alpine show with the covers project bonus disc...Let's keep talkin' about August 1972 will that movie ever get released? What the hell happened to the JERRY GARCIA BAND SHOWS??? How can you guys not want to collect all of this bread man... take my money please. Give some of that church/warfield 90-95 jGB. RANT MODE OFF NOW. Thanks for the extremely expensive offerings that I will continue to buy. Gerry

I'll second those '80 shows mentioned a couple posts back.

Hello Everyone, Brookvale Records just announced they are releasing the Dick's Picks series on VINYL!. www.BrookvaleRecords.com Full story here: http://brookvalerecords.com/the-grateful-dead-dicks-picks-vol-1-vol-2-n… I am new to this FORUM - can you guys help me spread the word?

If my vote counts for anything, then please, please, please limit the size of releases to one show or a two or three disc compilation of an era. One of the things that always separated the Grateful Dead from other bands was the egalitarian way they treated all of their fans. By coming out with these multi-disc releases that retail for hundreds of dollars, they are creating two classes of Deadheads--those that can afford the music and those that can't--and that is not what the Grateful Dead was, or is, about. The music should be there for as many people as possible. I bought the Europe '72 box (even though I really could not afford it). And even though I felt personally burned when they finally released them as individual shows, I was encouraged by what appeared to be a return to the good old Grateful Dead egalitarianism of yester-year. For something that supplied so much spiritual juice for so many of us for so many years, it is saddening to see the music become the property of only those who have hundreds of surplus dollars laying around. I believe that the model that began with the much beloved Dick's Picks series is the one that should take precedence. The vast majority of Heads can afford a release that's $20 to $30, and we're damn glad to have them. While there is a lot in the new 1990 box set that I'd love to hear, I just can't justify dropping $200 for it all; whereas if these shows were released individually over a period of time, there is a chance I might get them all. I also have a lot of trouble with the idea of limited releases. If this is something the Dead and its affiliates have to do for economic reasons, I can accept that. But again, it seems it is creating two sets of Deadheads--those with, and those without. I think I can speak for the great majority of us here when I say that the music the Grateful Dead created transcends mere entertainment. In many respects, experiencing the Grateful Dead held certain spiritual dimensions. To deprive a fair amount of the Deadhead community our musical mana just does not seem right to me. And I'm not one of those "music should be free" fools that were so well captured in the "Festival Express" movie--I am more than willing to pay for my proverbial ticket so I can take the ride. I just feel that there is a Middle Way here that the Dead did a great job of holding to for many, many years (and should be commended for it). All I am asking is that they should stay true to the principles that guided them so well for so many years. I've bought a great deal of amazing music from the Dead organization for many years (going back to the early 90s), and I hope to continue to do so. But there may come a time when I can't afford to, depending on how things go with the releases. Please Grateful Dead family, "let there be songs to fill the air!"

These are two kick-ass shows from a very unrepresented year. These two complete shows would fit on six discs. They don't need a bunch of useless crap with them -- just digi-trays, an essay about each show and high quality CDs in a nice slip case without cowboys and indians artwork. Make everybody happy and sell it for 39.99. Please? You're killing me with deluxe, souped-up $200 editions!

yea the winterland 2/22-2/24/74 miami 6/22-6/23/74 europe 74 yea we got a dicks picks for two days but we need more!!! and the full 10/16-10/20............ a spring 73 or summer 73? run.