they were the first band i saw live.jaco was still alive and playing like a wiz.that was 1976 when black market came out.the venue was stuttgart,west germany.heavily improvised music but as jerry once said,everybody seemed to be playing to himself.only once in a while there were short moments of "playing in the band!but that were only moments.....nothing like the euphoria in a dead concert when you would suddenly see the universe open up on you.hmm,these guy were perfect in their way for sure....but was it fun for the listeners?yes,the weather..i am in the czech republic an it is very icy....