Cornell 5/8/77 (5LP) - SOLD OUT
WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...
“...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”
“There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”
"This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”
The Grateful Dead played more than 2,000 concerts, but none continues to spark interest and provoke discussion quite like the band’s performance at Cornell University’s Barton Hall on May 8, 1977. It is one of the most collected, traded, and debated concerts by any band ever, has topped numerous fan polls through the years, and was a favorite of the group’s longtime archivist Dick Latvala, who stated: “Enough can’t be said about this superb show.” Even Uncle Sam got into the act in 2011 when the recording was “deemed so important to the history and culture of the United States” that a copy was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry.
Limited edition of 7,700
Release Date: May 5, 2017
Sourced from the Betty Cantor-Jackson soundboard recordings, transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
In-depth essay by noted Dead scholar Nicholas Meriwether
10th side features custom etching
Limited edition of 7,700
Release Date: May 5, 2017
First Listen: "Morning Dew" 5/8/77
"Mind-roasting"? Don't mind if we "dew." Rollingstone.com's got an exclusive sneak preview of what might be the most magical "Morning Dew" of all time.
Barton Hall, Cornell University - Ithaca, NY (5/8/77)
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In the late 80's my friend's copy of KISS Alive II, one of the sides, had warped pretty bad. I had read that you could put an album in your oven, at around 350, for a few minutes and then smooth it back out.
So we did... except, we were baked and forgot about it, and when one of us remembered and ran to the oven, "Calling Dr. Love" had absolutely turned to wax and was dripping all down onto the floor of the oven and all over the rack, etc. producing a horrid smell.
I remember us desperately trying to chip it off the rack out in the back yard, with a scissor, once it had cooled, and my friend scraping off the oven bottom, before his Mom came home.
I guess most of the meals in that house tasted like the "God of Thunder" for awhile.
Don't try this at home.
Sorry to hear some people have had quality issues. I think mine are all perfect. I had an idea for a way the whole set could have been even better. If they had put Side Six on the back of Side 5, Side Seven on the back of Side 4, Side Eight on the back of Side 3 and Side 9 on the back of Side 2, with the etching on the back of side one, we'd be able to stack the records on the spindle, pull the arm over, and listen to 5 sides without getting up; then just turn the whole stack over and hear the last 4 sides...try to remember to take the etched Side 10 off the top of the stack. Wouldn't it be nice? Just like the original Shaft Soundtrack or Golden Earring Live or the Woodstock soundtrack.
The numberings of the sides are optical illusions, particularly 3 and 5. That must have been planned...keeping things interesting...
Upate 01Nov2017: I have come across two more live albums that were created with sides 1 and 4 on one record and sides 2 and 3 on the other record - David Live (the first live David Bowie album - the one where he looks blue on the album cover) and Frampton Comes Alive!. So it must have been pretty common a few years ago. Probably the reason they no longer make them this way is that it is no longer possible to buy a record player with a record changer. As far as I know. But what about those people with vintage equipment? They might like that option.
Two of my records have physical defects affecting playback. We used to be able to email Dr. Rhino for friendly help, but he's not responding to my emails. I suppose we are at the mercy of customer service now. I am trying to request replacements for just the damaged records, and Dr. Rhino was good for sending replacements for only the damaged items instead of replacing the entire set. The set is sold out now, so I guess a refund is the most I can expect.
Re: duplicate vinyls, take a real close look at identifiers. The numbers will play tricks on your eyes. It's a likely chance you do not have duplicate records. However, if you actually play the wax and hear the same songs, you definitely have duplicates:)
Just opened my Cornell 5/8/77 set on Sunday 6/11/17 and found duplicates of sides 3/4 and no side 5/6. Please PM me for trade if you are in the similar but opposite situation. Randy
I ordered one from the uk, and it is exactly like the one i ordered from here. In every way. Same upc code and other product number identifiers. As well, it has the same info on the one side, saying where it was manufactured and all. I bought it to answer this same question you have. Now it will be a gift for a buddies bday this weekend! Peace!
In the description above for the lp boxset, it states, "Sourced from the Betty Cantor-Jackson soundboard recordings, transferred and restored by Plangent Processes. Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman." Isn't HDCD high-definition compact disc? Shouldn't this vinyl boxset be of audiophile quality, and if digitally converted, be the HD 24/192? If someone in the know could please clear this up for me, i would greatly appreciate it! Im fairly sure it would be HD files of 24/192, if converted to digital files, not just CD quality at 16/44.1, or even HDCD, which is supposedly 20/44.1. Im really confused by the info deadnet has above...anyone that can clear this up definitively, i thank you in advance!
Pre-ordered both vinyl and cd's from Amazon, arrived on the day of release here in UK,both are incredible in content and sound quality. To say I'm incredibly pleased with both sets would be an understatement!
i got lucky with patch, print. On May 5, one record shop in Columbus was selected by Rhino to host a listening party of Cornell. They had grab bags, about a dozen of them.
Some bags had all the scwhag (maybe 5 out of 13 or so) , others had partial. Im guessing there was plenty to go around for all becasue rhino sent them the stuff to giveaway. also guessing some of the stuff was hoarded for the after market flips. these shop owners know what is hot product, and after RSD i bet they knew it even more.
~notebook with white paper. Cover of notebook is same at etching on vinyl side 10
~window flyer advertising Cornell LP and CD
unfortunately i didnt win a grab bag, there was about 20 people , half kids with parents. Lots of kids won for their parents.
I was 1st person there for the event. 15 minutes early and had time to browse. I got a couple records and asked guy at register to save them for me until event was over. When i went to purchase there was still a patch taped on the raffle box. I asked the guy working register if i could have and he pulled it off raffle box, tape and all.
The print i had to get from another shop the next day. this shop actually sold the LP. The shop that was doing listening party said they didnt get any , but did have one to give away.
Shop i got print from had a few from the 2 vinyl sets he sold. and said if i bought anything he would give it to me with purchase, i ended up getting CSNY "4 Way Street" 2LP for $3 bucks. definetely not mint , but its a good score
The MAY77 SHIRT that was on here two times, the second time it was up i submitted an order, but it says its pre-order and not until July 19 ? i would not be surprised if i got some message cancelling it. The 2 coffee mugs they had for May77 are gone also, those went quick
i am on the look out for the Red Rocks merch for that release. Rhino also did giveaways for 7.8.78, its for a shirt and water bottle. i could have bought off ebay a while back but passed them by.
Also in search of Dave's Picks 6 tee shirt , its the graphic on bonus disc. Ebay has one for sale but seller is asking like $80 for a shirt that was made in 2013.
other shirt in search of is the Dave's Picks 10 cover art. Thelma release
any help on these people ? it was sold on this site
I was curious if you got the print or patch that came with your order from your local record store. I really want that print (and patch) but looks like I waited too long.
Unrelated to the vinyl, but did anyone else notice the Cornell 77 shirt that was up briefly on dead.net site? I saved the link but says the page is dead. The Ithaca shirt is still up, but looks a little wonky to me.
dang they went straight flipper mode. Order off amazon for $75 or near distrubuter price and sell in brick and mortar shop. for more than double !!! almost nuttier than the record shop selling the May 77 Cornell print that was supposed to be a giveaway LOL
i know some markets have higher price for an item , but damn I wouldnt buy from a shop that was doing that.
from what shop owners told me in columbus ohio
2 copies sold at a record shop a couple miles from campus , $125 plus sales tax, Franklin County is like 7.5 percent
other shop basically on OSU campus sold 7 copies for $135 a pop plus sales tax. I thought 135 was high. these all sold out the day of release or maybe even before, i think a few people reserved their copy when they saw the frenzy the 1966 RSD release created
i have sunshine daydream 4LP and that is hard to find now , LE of only 5,000. pretty sure it was about $80-90 most places. it is selling for double now on after market, a 2013 release
I went to my local record store today (Twist & Shout in Denver), and they had sold out of their original allotment, which they were selling for 122.95, and they were out of freebies (prints/patches), but they had just gotten in 5 copies bought from another retailer. I waited while they unpackaged them and was initially told they may be a little more money probably 129.95. I found some other great selections I have been putting off buying, and the clerk came back and told me they were going to cost $189.95 for the Cornell 5xLP. I am not complaining about their pricing. I am making my point that this is indeed limited to 7700. While I was in-store, I ordered one from Amazon (domestically and new) for $99 + $4 shipping. That seller has 8 left. These are going to dry up with the quickness, considering its popularity and being #10 on Billboards top 100 and the box set being #15 in the top 100. Crazy right? For something thats 40 years old, I think thats totally awesome and insane at the same time. They dont make them like they used to, and the one and only Grateful Dead will forever be my favorite band. Even as I approach my 300th Phish show, GD is #1 in my heart. Love you all. Thx for reading my ramblings!
Duplicate post, woops
My box arrived in Switzerland this morning and everything is the way it should be and wow!, it really sounds awesome
I hope you are enjoying this fabulous new recording. I'm honored to have some of my photos in the box set and CD set.
I'm working to make a gorgeous book of all the photos I took at this amazing show 40 years ago. I am currently running a Kickstarter campaign to pay for the printing. There are only nine days left!
I would be most grateful if you check out my Kickstarter project page and pledge to support my book. As a reward, you will receive a copy of the book as soon as it is ready, and you can cherish it forever, just as you will this new recording. I am also offering archive quality photographic prints in 8x10 and 11x14 sizes as rewards for pledges much lower than the retail value and ultimate price of the prints.
Here's a link to my Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/bartonhallphotos/barton-hall-5-8-77....
You can also see my profile on this site: http://www.dead.net/features/all-family/all-family-larry-reichman
Thanks so much!
I've thought about this and have collected limited edition vinyl for a long time. I strongly agree that anything marketed as limited edition should be numbered. I also strongly think that something priced $120 for 5 LPs should be foil stamped.
I believe there are 7700 total worldwide. The price is a deterrent, $120 ($24/disc). Consider the RSD 2017 release which had 6600 copies (and only 4000 released for RSD in the USA) and only cost $29.99 ($15/disc). And also consider that this release/show is available on CD, as part of a $140 box set (which I think most people bought), and also via mp3 and FLAC downloads.
I believe there are 7700 of these worldwide. It is available on Amazon for $30 less and local record shops are giving away prints with this purchase. I want the print but don't want to shell out another #120 for this release. I'll find one some way some how.
I have finally listened to all 4 shows and absolutely love the recording quality. The previous May 77 box set was my favorite and most listened to box set, but this will be replacing that title in my book. Great work all around.
I am hoping that the next box set is from the 80s. Other than the Hampton/Warlocks set, we don't have a big box set release from this decade, and there are so many gems and great songs from that era that I just can not get enough of. I hope David gives this some consideration for 2018's box set release.
Finally, I wanted to say thank you to the community, band, GDP, and Rhino. We have something really, really special and I cherish it every day. Love you all. Wishing you the best this Mother's Day weekend. Happy Trailz!!!
My vinyl box set came and its perfect in every way. Wish I had purchased two for a backup. Had no idea Chris Bellman and Bernie Grundman were cutting this. Anyone know what plant pressed these? I've been listening to this show for 30 years and never heard it sound so nice. I'm sitting 50 feet away from the speakers and Phil is vibrating through the kitchen table. It's punchy and tight and thrilling to hear
Thanks Dead and team and Betty. Superb job. Please release the rest of these 77 shows on vinyl!
Yea it took an extra week to arrive and the 3 looks like a 5 but so what. Great job!
seems like Amazon UK , Amazon in USA and Dead.net are selling the bulk of these
is there really 7,700 units ?
is the UK release a different catalog number than one sold in USA ?
they could have easily foil stamped the booklet inside the box , like they did with may 1977 box set booklet.
It feels like this vinyl of 5.8.77 is not an LE of 7,700.
Same situation here....and got a notification of a charge to my credit card. Emailed customer service and got what appears to be an automated response: "We will send out your replacement item as soon as possible. We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience."
Guessing it has something to do with the issues people are reporting here.
Ordered one LP set from the U.K. That arrived intact. The vinyl are all flat, clean and sound crystal clear. The blank side 10 is a wonder to look at with the very cool etching. Really a gorgeous package and the booklet looks great as well. Also ordered one set from the US that unfortunately arrived with a broken spine. Nasty rip on the box, oh well
I got my set on the 5th, all the discs were correct and it sounds amazing. The only question I have are why aren't they numbered? The get shown the light box set were and there were way more copies of that, this box set less copies were made but for some reason weren't numbered it's not a big deal to me but for the price, they should have been numbered. Still happy with this and after a few listens its definitely one of my favorite shows now.
I have no clue what's going on and haven't ordered yet, but when I saw a copy of this it was not numbered.
I'm sure everyone with order from here is getting a copy until it's sorted out
I myself want to see some indication of what copy I have received if this is in fact a LE of 7,700 units.
Foil stamp would go a long way. Heck print a ticket / postcard / handbill / invitation and slip it in
Next vinyl release hook up some September / October 1980 !!!!!! I'll take a triple
It still says there are less than 1000 copies yet I just got a backorder message. Not sure if this has something to do with the messed up sets but it would have been nice to know that they were backordered before hand.
Perhaps mine went out on the Concord to get to me in New York. (Anyone remember the old high speed plane between London & NY). I ordered a few months back & a few days back I got a message saying it would arrive on the 19th. Somehow it came on the 9th. I need to open it to make sure I don't get 5 discs of side 9. That would be bad
How did you already get yours from Amazon UK. I pre-ordered mine back in Feb from them and mine's not getting here till the 20th?
I got mine on Friday, 5/05. Duplicate sides 3 & 4 and no sides 5 & 6. Contacted Rhino twice, no resopnse. Contacted Dead customer service & they say they'll send out replacement as soon as possible. I guess I'm not the only one who got wrong product in the box.
I guess I got lucky as mine arrived yesterday from the UK via Amazon. I also ordered one other copy domestically for a much higher cost & that has not arrived yet. The Amazon UK purchase landed in a nicely packed large box & the actual record box looks to be perfect. The way it was secured ensured that the box would not be subjected to damage. I have yet to open and give it a listen but plan on doing so real soon. I'm hoping that static/popping is not an issue. Generally Rhino LP's are done very well. From the Zeppelin reissues to the Dead RSD releases I am most always satisfied. The worst company I know of is Universal Music Group. Bought a few reissues recently & seem to always have problems. The Fillmore East Allmans is pathetic, sounds weak & the vinyl is just sloppy. Center sticker is crooked so once the side finishes playing, your needle is in for a rough ride. Also bought the Soundgarden Badmotorfinger LP & you cannot even set the record down cause the whole is tiny. So props to Rhino for taking good care on manufacturing vinyl.
I sent you a PM
look close at the 3 and 5, they are almost identical
The quality of playback could be a little better. There are a few loud pops in some places and a very light continuous static sound upon close study. I don't listen to vinyl for static and pops. It's for the "warmth" and enjoyment of putting on a record. I expect some surface noise on old scratched up records. New, good quality vinyl should have no surface noise at all. An expensive limited release like this certainly shouldn't. It isn't extreme to the point where I won't enjoy it or feel the need to return it. Just that it could be a little better.
I almost freaked when I pulled out record #2 and misread the side 3 for a 5. The font style threw me off. It very much looks like a 5 at first glance.
For those choosing to order from Amazon be warned that they don't take care in how they physically stock items. Your odds will be increased on getting a dinged up box.
I sent you a PM
I sent you a PM
I got duplicate 5&6 no 3&4 so it was a packing error
Only problem is I bought mine from Amazon UK to save some $ so exchanging it might be a lengthy process. My order isn't getting here until 5/19.
With amazon it's easy. You fill out a ticket and they send you a new one. You keep the other one until new one comes and you take what's good from both to make a complete set. Once you listen and are satisfied, you send the problematic one back. With vinyl box sets I almost expect I will have to do this
I'm waiting for amazon to ship mine and now I'm expecting the same issue. Maybe they are aware of a consistent issue and that's why mine hasnt shipped yet....
I ordered mine through Amazon, but if anything is messed up I'm calling Rhino to complain. Who's to say that if I return my set to Amazon the next box won't be f'd up as well. I think the Dead site needs to come out and address this issue. This a major f**k up.
just opened mine to find the same duplicate LP (side 3 &4) with the omission of the LP side 5 & 6. Wondering what to do, who I should contact to get this madness sorted out... Ordered right here at dead.net through the rhino page... this is silly
is this for vinyl or CD sale here ?
what is the breakdown of songs per side ? if duplicates are going around, it is stated 10th side is etching.
i would like to know what I am missing out on ?
Sale page says disc 1 , 2 , 3. that is obviously way off for someone thats buying the vinyl
what is vinyl info since this seems to be Rhino and Amazon slanging the majority of 7,700 copies.
want to purchase , but also avoid the hassel of mistakes. makes the deal a little less sweet
I also received a duplicate of Record #2 (Sides 3 & 4), and am missing Record #3 (Sides 5 & 6). I ordered mine from a different website though so I am not holding my breath on getting a replacment disc. Good luck to all those facing similar issues.
In reply to soundeditor76 I must say that you have adopted an incorrect understanding about the role of the sonic brickwall used in CD playback technology. The frequency filtering is actually a function of the sample rate that was chosen for Redbook digital audio way back in the late 70's, when Sony and Philips developed the new CD format. Because double the upper limit is just over 44.1 kHz, the 22.0 kHz limit was necessary to restrict certain second-order harmonics of the signal from interfering with the encode, decode functioning so that distortion there was not introduced. It has nothing at all to do with being adopted by mastering people for any "loudness" war. That was all about taste and playback context for consumers to benefit from much later on. One of the benefits of the CD format is to actually limit compression, unlike vinyl, and allow the full dynamic range of a recording to be enjoyed. I won't get into the debate over whether compression was good or bad while employed in 1990s style of digital mastering, except that the sonic limits of CDs were set first and the various mastering techniques came about a lot later.
What's the number. I just saw an email address.
Received my box set yesterday after so much anticipation. One disc had huge gashes across the surface, so obviously unplayable. The rest of the discs were riddled with hairline surface cracks which don't seem to affect play, but are disturbing nevertheless. Fingerprints all over every side of every disc. Pretty disappointing especially for a boutique item. I put in a call to customer service to have the unplayable disc replaced. We'll see... Despite that, these sound great!
Purchased the Hi rez download while waiting for my vinyl to arrive and the first download which took close to 12 hours for a 5G file was corrupt. Started it again and it still appears slow enough it will take at least 12 hours again. Maybe it's the same connection that does the ticket sales?!?! Download speeds this slow are really ridiculous in 2017. WTF!
When I initially ordered this vinyl set, my card was hit for three authorizations causing my order to be cancelled. Thankfully this format was slow to sellout, if this happened with the CDs causing me to not get it, I'd be really po'd. Ordered again yesterday and just noticed that I have an accepted charge PLUS an additional pending authorization. I know I had issues last year when I ordered Passaic and Shrine vinyl sets as well. GD/Rhino/WB best get your capitalist act together. I will no longer order online, I will support my local record store. Unfortunately, my local store which was listed on this site did not have vinyl (which I understand seeing the limited number of copies in print) nor did they receive any of the books or patches giveaways. Good luck!
You shouldn't have to pay for anything. It's their mess up, who do you contact about it?
You shouldn't have to pay for anything. It's their mess up, who do you contact about it?
Bummer- this is exactly what happened to me, i have two disk 3/4, and am missing 5/6- the tracks lised are the same on both. Put a 2nd order in, hoping to snag a copy before there gone and that it won't have the same problems...
He said after he opened one and noticed, he then opened all the rest to check. I haven't see it yet, but evidently from the last comment the fonts are very similar, maybe he misread the discs. I'm not sure if a whole record was missing or not, that's just how his comment read. I'll have to wait until the 19th to find out.
Received the vinyl this morning...All discs accounted for...the 3 and 5 are easily misread along with the 6 and 9...
open the shrink on all these records?
Or already had every customer buy/open/return the discs as missing/duplicate at the crack of dawn on the day the onsale even happened?
Smells. Just sayin'