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Dave's Picks Volume 9: Harry Adams Field House, U. of Montana 5/14/74 CD - SOLD OUT

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We're kicking off Dave's Picks 2014 with a visit to the Wall Of Sound era. Dave's Picks Volume 9 features the complete show from May 14, 1974, at Adams Field House at the University of Montana in Missoula, the Grateful Dead's only appearance in the state of oro y plata. This monstrously hot show is the third official show of the Wall Of Sound, which had debuted in March 1974. Highlights run deep including the second performance of “Scarlet Begonias,” a 22+ minute “Playing In The Band” that leans heavily on the band's jazz chops, and a second set jam of “Weather Report Suite>Dark Star” that contains some of the deepest jamming of 1974, and that's saying a heck of a lot! It also features one of only a handful of versions of “Dark Star” played in 1974, a song heading toward a long hiatus, and this one digs deep into some of the wildest spaces you'll ever hear. Rockers, ballads, and jams, 5/14/74 covers all the bases, with plenty of nuances to revel in, each and every listen.

Product Details

3 Disc set
Limited to 14,000 individually numbered copies
Mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman
Digipak made of 100% recycled and PCW materials
Release Date: February 1, 2014

Listening Party

5/14/74, Missoula, Montana


"Weather Report Suite"

David Lemieux Volume 9 Seaside Chat

Tracklist

Harry Adams Field House, University of Montana, Missoula, MT (5/14/74)

Disc 1
1. Bertha [6:15]
2. Me And My Uncle [3:15]
3. Loser [6:39]
4. Black-Throated Wind [6:52]
5. Scarlet Begonias> [7:21]
6. It Must Have Been The Roses [5:44]
7. Jack Straw [5:18]
8. Tennessee Jed [8:18]
9. Mexicali Blues [3:39]
10. Deal [4:46]

Disc 2
1. Big River [5:21]
2. Brown-Eyed Woman [5:13]
3. Playing In The Band [20:49]
4. U.S. Blues [5:48]
5. El Paso [4:44]
6. Row Jimmy [8:52]

Disc 3
1. Weather Report Suite [16:08]
Prelude [1:26]
Part I [4:32]
Part II (Let It Grow) [10:10]
2. Dark Star> [26:39]
3. China Doll [5:52]
4. Promised Land [3:46]
5. Not Fade Away> [6:15]
6. Goin’ Down The Road Feeling Bad [9:58]
7. One More Saturday Night [4:50]

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Winterland '73 Box...

Wharfrattx, Enjoying the PITB 11/9/73 because you reminded me, that little gem was in my collection along with those two "other" shows. Thanks to you and whoever turned you back to it...WOW...just encourages me to re-visit the hours of music that I already have at my finger tips!!! DaP9...There has been LOTS said about the vocals, mix, quality and so on, but it sounds pretty good to me. I wish other bands had quality live recordings to release on a regular basis. Would love a touched up soundboard from Pink Floyd around 1974. Just waiting for those to pop up. But in the meantime, loving my good ol' grateful dead...

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Next Dark Star...

Kind of easy with DeadBase:
7/25/74
9/10/74
10/18/74
Then not again until New Year's '78. That's if I correctly understood the question. The reward for the right answer is Spacebro writes the liner notes for the first 1984 release- aka Dave's Picks 11.

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um, RFK??

um, RFK??
p.s. I realize that's the world's most terrible guess.

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if you know the answer it's easy if you don't it's not

when did the band next play dark star ???

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DaP 9 Playin' vs. Winterland '73

Whoooo! Just coming out of the PITB from 11-9-73, part of the Winterland '73 box. Someone mentioned it here the other day, so I took a break from DaP 9 and am currently spinning the first show in that glorious collection. WOW! Don't get me wrong, the 5-14-74 Playin' travels some interesting terrain, but this beast that concludes set one is a jazzy-Billys-on-fire-fusion orgasm! It never ceases to amaze me how fluid and groovy those fall '73 improvs can get! Alright, movin' into the laid back-yet-edgy Here Comes Sunshine. And the wonderful thing about this collection is that the playing continues to reach higher and higher peaks over the course of the three-night stand culminating in 11/11, one of the many peaks that is Fall '73. Do yourselves a favor and dig out that Winterland '73 box, the gift that keeps on giving!

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Meat

I have been rethinking my consumption of meat the past couple months and have cut way back. I'm trying to stay away from food that once had eyes (except potatoes... lol). Problem is, I'm a bit of a picky eater, as I'm turned off by some veggies, so my options are somewhat narrow to begin with. But I think I can make it work.

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Summer Tour 88'

http://jerrygarcia.com/tour/summer-1988/11362

A few debuts and Hornsby at the Buckeye Lake show, plus Oxford Plains.

I'll take it !!

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Plant Rights

You hear people talking about animal rights all the time, but no on ever mentions plant rights. You have to kill something to eat, there is no way around that. It's a matter of where you draw the line and how you atone for your "sins". Keeping kosher is an acknowledgement of this, and there are similar examples everywhere. Is yeast an animal or a plant? Should vegans drink beer or other fermented products? What about bread? For me it is a matter of degree, but we're all killers. Read the blog post about Owsley in Dead Sources to hear his extreme take on the matter.

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Mind vs. Taste

Continuing on with the food related picks- Meat, poultry (even little baby chickens!) is food that tastes good but I never feel good about eating it. Like pulled pork- sounds nasty to me, don't like the concept of it, but it's the taste. Doesn't sit well a cow was slaughtered for my cheeseburger, and still I eat it. Don't like myself for it, but anyways, sorry if this post was read just before enjoying a rack of lamb. Calaveras, have to check that show out- Santana sits in for a couple songs- always a treat. Here's to the hope this year brings us an 83 or 84 Pick.

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jamabalya? in OZ?

hey chilly

"Had to cook for the family tonight, (made a kick ass Jambalaya), and am now just starting to listen. I'm smiling!!"

have to say i'm impressed
a man who knows how to cook a good jambalaya is a good man indeed

here's the one i use...you can put anything in it
last weekend it was venison sausage, wild hog, and duck legs

http://www.tailgating.com/index.php?route=common/main&fa_id=252

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DP#9

#5405 has landed in northern Germany on 2/10/14,
no add. taxes as usual

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calaveras '87

Really enjoying this show right now. Thanks whoever mentioned that one. Another vote for Spacebro to write the liner notes!!

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Compilations

Dave already puts out one extra-large (and free) compilation every year -- 30 Days of Dead, so I think that super-compilation base is covered, except the audio is not mastered and can be very uneven. And I understand some people preferring whole shows in the Dave's series, but the rest of us are having to live with a lot more mediocrity than we would if highlights could be released, a la Road Trips. I guess that's why they make the skip button on CD players. I use it.

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DaP9 arrived in the Netherlands

#6018 found its home

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still absorbing this release, but

part of this show has that sense to me that the Dead(esp. Jerry) were taking this Wall of Sound out for a drive to see what it would do-like you would do with that new muscle car with the stick on the floor and the twitchy clutch-you were heady but real focused and maybe a little more cautious than with the VW bug you traded in. Of course, when you felt up to it and the road was clear and straight you let her rip a bit before slowing down( maybe that billboard around the corner had a statey lurking waiting to snag someone just like you). This show has that wow lets really focus and concentrate on all the details and the precision of everything and let that monster of a clean system do the work and yeah we can rip it up a little bit too and get weird at times and see what happens. This was the NEW TOY and what a toy it was. Less distortion and real good clean fun! Anyway still listening.

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5404 has arrived down under! Had to cook for the family tonight, (made a kick ass Jambalaya), and am now just starting to listen. I'm smiling!!

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Complete Shows Only!!

I'm very much hoping that Dave continues to release complete shows in the Dave's Picks series! I need that complete experience and I don't want to get an incomplete show only to have to purchase it again when it's released complete later on down the road.

Oh and bring on that October '74 Winterland box!!

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cool, thanks for the invite

i am very familiar with caipirinhas and feijoada. my beer of choice is Skol, that is what my girlfriend dad drinks. her uncle gave me a few swigs of 25 year old cachaca that was made in Espirito santo, very nice stuff indeed. cheers and enjoy the festivities and the new volume 9, cant wait to hear whats next,

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mbarilla, I'm in Sao Paulo

I'm in Sao Paulo city. It's not near from Fortaleza but if you come here, contact me in box. We can drink a lot of "caipirinhas", eat a "feijoada" and of course listen THE DEAD.
Have a grateful night!

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mbarilla, I'm in Sao Paulo

I'm in Sao Paulo city. It's not near from Fortaleza but if you come here, contact me in box. We can drink a lot of "caipirinhas", eat a "feijoada" and of course listen THE DEAD.
Have a grateful night!

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Here's An Idea

How about a Dave's Pick where each & every track, individually, whatever year, is selected by Dave...the only criteria being that each track is fantastic...with the overall sound adjusted to be compatible through 3 CDs...so it would not be a complete show, nor a set selected around a single time or venue...but an overall Dave's Picks where each & every track is a treasure? I think that would be kewl...if Dave could stand the pressure of such a momentous responsibility.

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Leisurely and Mellow?

I'm still absorbing this release. I keep reading comments about it being leisurely or mellow... Maybe, but damn, listen to that Big River. It's completely raging, to my ears. Metal Garcia.

Haven't even heard PITB through disc three yet. That's the kind of music I need to focus on, so I'm waiting until I can get some alone time with my headphones.

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No CD data

This has nothing to do with the CD. No CD you have ever bought anywhere has this kind of data on it. Think about it: if you have a non-obscure CD you bought in 1987, the computer will find the data. Do you think someone back in 1987 had the foresight to add meta-data to the CD on the chance that years in the future people would begin to import CDs into computers for playback?

The data is imported into iTunes and other similar programs because they automatically use software that takes the CD information, search it against a large internet database (e.g. GraceNote). The info in that database comes from people inputting that data manually and then sending the info to Gracenote/other databases. If no iTunes user has ever sent the info to GraceNote, it won't be there. This happens occasionally with either brand new releases (usually someone inputs the data within the first few days - or the first few hours with a major release like a new Springsteen album or something), or with very obscure old CDs.

By the way, the sound on this release is excellent. Really dig the Loser with Keith adding some colorful keys. Not as essential as the GD Movie box or the WOS Road Trips, but still a good addition to the collection. A fine release, although I'm hoping for the expected '69/'70 release and some more Brent-era soon. What about Gainesville? Long Beach '81 or Manor Downs '81 or '82 are good ones, too.

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Corazza, where are you in Brasil ?

Not too many dead heads in Brasil. I travel there a lot, my girl friend is from there. She lives near Fortaleza, finishing her last semester for Nutrition school, but is originally from Espírito Santo. Good to know if i ever move there. At least I can still order the new releases. I should be there again in June for the Copa. She really does not know much about the Dead, although we did go Further final summer tour show in 2012 in Michigan. I believe they opened the 2nd set with The Weight, her first name is Ani, kind of ironic. Nice Shakedown street from that show as well with Brokedown Palace to close it out. She really liked the Shakedown, I remember . Cheers

DP9 highlights for me are Black throated Wind and Scarlet Begonias from 1st disc. I like the Roses but was not impressed as others.

Disc 2 Big River was great, and the Brown Eyed Women is great ! Playing was nice too.
Almost through the dark star and the big meltdown that i heard about was nothing compared to some of those Seastones jams and some of the meltdowns from 68-69' .

Overall a nice show from the pieces I have heard. I would still like to see a compilation as a future pick. From a run of 2 to 4 shows and take the highlights maybe from Fall of 72' or Summer 73' if 80's is not an option. I just listened to the space > the other one from 3-25-91, very nice and last night I heard 9-4-83 end of Scarlet into Fire, wow. Really love the 83' show from Dicks Picks. Also listened to the first 3 songs of 7-7-81 a few nights ago. Very nice New Minglewood, come on 81' 83' or 84' for DP11 because I'm guessing DP10 is 69-71' show

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Indian Larry 1949-2004

I think Indian Larry said it best:

"It can never be too weird for me"

At the time he was referring to motorcycle design, but to me his statement also rings true when applied to the music(!) of the Grateful Dead.

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like it

I have to admire folks here, the way you can remember precise dates and shows and releases and setlists and details and such. I have loved the Dead since 1972 and buy and listen to just about everything, but there is no way I can hold all that info in my brain. I would like to pretend that I am a Zen Master, and that I deliberately get into a perfect trance before listening to each show, so that that my mind is completely open and empty and I experience it as new, like the opening of a beautiful flower or the first footprints in soft snow. But the fact of the matter is that my memory is so dodgy I have no choice!

Anyway, all I can say is that I enjoyed this all the way through: sound, flow, content and playing. Dark Star too weird? No such thing!!! (imo). Will have a rerun tomorrow…maybe I should start taking notes. Great fun reading all the reviews..thanks for sharing.

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Arrived in Brazil.

5350 arrived today in Brazil! Great show!

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bad idea on no data on cd

does anybody else think its messed up that the cd does not have any disc data on it when you put it into a computer. no song list or cd title at all . there reply was when enough people write the date and set list online the data will be available. so i pay 32 $ for a show and have to wait for the public input . how messed up and unprofessional is that. i have always payed for these releases looks like next time i will just get a free copy from a friend.every store bought cd i have ever gotten has had all the data already on it. this is so weak

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messed up no cd data.

does anybody else think its messed up that the cd does not have any disc data on it when you put it into a computer. no song list or cd title at all . there reply was when enough people write the date and set list online the data will be available. so i pay 32 $ for a show and have to wait for the public input . how messed up and unprofessional is that. i have always payed for these releases looks like next time i will just get a free copy from a friend.every store bought cd i have ever gotten has had all the data already on it. this is so weak

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in re Thai Died

That was a cool-ass review. Thanks for sharing.

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listed as No. 30 on the

listed as No. 30 on the billboard charts

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Wall of Sound...GD movie soundtrack...daP7

Outside of the GD Movie Soundtrack (which was remixed from separate tracks by taking the direct line in recordings and feeding them back out into the same type of amplifier that Jerry was using at the time. This painstaking Norman process recreated what it sounded like on stage & at the venue. So nothing can beat that.)All that said this 74 Montana happens to sound terrific vocals and all. And yes for me the playing & song selection is top notch, it's a welcome surprise. Still love some of the others (road trips W.O.S) but truth is none can live up to the GD soundtrack. I know it's not complete shows, but most definitely 5 discs of GD bliss that makes me feel like I am at the venue in the center a few feet back from the stage. And it's light on first set selections so there are literally hours of exploratory jams.

(For a first set with muscle you must check out DaP7 as mentioned earlier by Hbob. They came out roaring that night)

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DS

I generally like this release. Sound is quite good and I like the set list. This Dark Star is definitely different-- love the Apocalypse Now comparison. The big jams overall on this show do not work for me, though. I get annoyed when they wander off into No Man's Land like they do on PITB and Dark Star.

For me, I much prefer Dark Star c. late 1968 to 1970 when they have a sweet jam wrapped around the song's structure rather than the heading off into space versions that arose in Europe 72 and into 1974. Not that I haven't heard good versions (8/27/72 obviously), but I definitely have that preference. Same with PITB-- those tight Europe 72 and through 1973 versions with hot jams that never run out of steam, but keep cooking. Both these songs run out of gas at some point in Montana and it takes effort to get them back.

Just my two cents. Enjoying the show regardless. I am hoping for a good Pigpen release next, March or April 1971 please. Or a solid Brent show.

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promised land ???

what is 'promised land' doing after china doll ?? don't recall it being before a nfa/gdtrfb at the end of a show ?? btw ,, really like this version of u.s. blues !

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Thai Died

13789 finally arrived tonight in Atlanta. We're bracing for yet another storm. Enjoyed disc 1 & 2 with some yummy Malbec and Thai food.

Clearly the Scarlet>Roses is nice on disc one. Otherwise, it's on the generic side.

The Playin' goes by without a wink for 20 minutes +. Smooth for sure.

Digesting the Dark Star now. The WRS is sublime so the DS is sort of rolling out of that for much of it. Haven't gotten to the meltdown yet. Looking forward to it oddly (Strange creatures we deadheads are?!).

So, a premature review but I feel like I get what Dave was going for on this one. The cool jazzy organ, the leisurely pacing in a year that was a roller coaster of sound is certainly unlike any 1974 show I can put my ears on. It's doesn't have the Spanish Jam>MLB jame of 7/31/74 nor the spawling spendor (lots of outdoor whistling comes to mind from Dillon Stadium) but it does feel a bit wild, raw and groovy in a mellow sort of way. I mean, c'mon, it's a big trip for anyone up to Montana. I give the Dead credit for not dialing it in but instead tapping in to the bigness and wildness of the place.

Update: Dark Star is getting spooky. Wonder what those in the crowd, drunk on some kind of cheap beer, were thinking? I don't think anyone was dancing (at least I hope not). I will have to say, not many Dark Stars like this in my collection. It's got that Apocalypse Now feel about it, as if we're entering into the Heart of Darkness. Slowly meandering down a black muddy river, arrows flying at us from all directions, gnashing of teeth, congo drums, and a great deal of uncertainty. Whoa. Yeah. Okay. This is cinematic stuff. Music isn't quite the right word. Dramatic theater is more like it. But, they come out on the groovy side, reassuring everyone that it's going to be okay. I can almost see the unison head bobs.

Heck, isn't that what it's all about. A band tearing apart the structure to complete shreads then building the impermanent sand castle yet again only to be destroyed with the coming and inevitable tide?

Always good to hear something that's 40 years new to my ears.

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Exactly

Have said many times that I would be willing to forgo "superior" sound quality or a minor cut - which should be somewhat fixable - for a better show. These vocals are clearly lackluster. Also, is it just my old age or is Garcia's guitar absent in the first minute of the last two releases?

Great job overall, Dave. Just providing some personal feedback. Thank you as always.

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Weir/Zappa

rdevil, excellent timeline observation concerning the release date of Broken Hearts. While you're correct about the official release of the song, Zappa had been performing it since January of 1977, nearly a year and a half before Bobby's April '78 tease. Like the Dead, Frank often performed songs for years before actually getting around to properly recording and releasing them. Had Bobby seen Zappa in concert or been exposed to the plethora of bootlegs that circulated of Zappa's performances (much to his chagrin), he would have no doubt heard Broken Hearts before its' official release. Of course it could have also been a simple coincidence, but listening to Bobby's playing, not only is it the EXACT chords, but the execution itself is the same. (Unlike the My Sweet Lord/He's So Fine controversy). So in the end, I guess it's open to interpretation, though being a Zappa as well as a Dead fanatic, I like to imagine that the two universes collided on that day :)

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DP7, 12, 24, 31, DaP 2 and RT 2.3 all eclipse it. (Am I missing any?)

Grateful Dead Movie, Soundtrack, Steal Your Face

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Change of address...

For last year's subscription, a few weeks before each volume shipped an email was sent with information on how to change the shipping address. Hopefully the same practice is continued this year. This notion of not being able to change the shipping address doesn't seem accurate. Come this summer my shipping address will change- probably more than a few subscribers will find new places to live this year. If very concerned about it though, perhaps send marye a PM.

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Re: old and in the way release

This came out last year:

http://www.jambands.com/news/2013/10/01/david-grisman-releases-old-and-in-the-way-the-complete-boarding-house-tapes#.Uvlq0PZyEV0

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Well, it's happened

I'm moving to another unit on the same property so I called to update my address CS who told me they'd try. My wife said "well they have to." So I said "call them yourself and see." She did and they told her that they can't change the shipping address once the order is placed for a subscription.

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Instead of just ranting about yourself...Go there, sign 4 JERRY!

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/nominate-grateful-dead-receive-kennedy-center-honors-2015-celebrating-their-50th-anniversary/ZrzvLSwz

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Badger, agreed on relegating

Badger, agreed on relegating this thread to a backwater. Darn shame. But then we find a way don't we?

allman - thanks for the Boarding House release tip - nifty!

owlshead asked - "Would someone mind addressing this in a little detail... so that an average person can follow (for a non-Audio engineer anyway). .... why so bad as far as delivering vocals?"

Dude, I'll do me best :) -->

Since the band was playing with the speakers behind them, it meant their vocal mics would have all that sound bleeding in, causing distortion, etc. So they had special mics made to prevent feedback - if you look at the mics in the GD Movie you'll see there are two for each singer, a few inches apart. The two mics used "phase canceling" to block out the sound from the WoS, but they band had to sing into the top mic for this to work. Even so, some of their range of their vocals got "phase canceled" too, so they end up sounding thin and a bit shrill.

However, I think that's mainly in sbd recordings - they sound pretty damn good on the audience recordings from the era. (And the vocals on the new DaP9 sound pretty freaking awesome too - I can even listen to it in my car, unusual for a WoS sbd).

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Had High Hopes. . . .

. . . . but this is a fairly lackluster release. Just calling it as I hear it. Scarlet > Roses is easily the high point for me. Overall . . . workman-like, with a very high display of craft, but little to no X-factor.

That said, kudos, Dave, for the series. The road goes ever on. . . . . .

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old and in the way release 2/18

Live at the Boarding House [Box set]

Forty years ago on a Monday night, a bluegrass band calling themselves Old & in the Way featuring Jerry Garcia on banjo, David Grisman on mandolin, Peter Rowan on guitar, Vassar Clements on fiddle and John Kahn on bass walked on to the stage at The Boarding House in San Francisco.

They played again a week later and recorded what ould become one of the most influential albums in Bluegrass history. Now, forty years later, both
shows are being released on 4 compact discs. This will be the first release of those historic shows with s 55 tracks, 14 of which have never been released in any format.
This title will be released on February 18, 2014

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anyone else have a defective disc 3?

19 minutes into Dark Star, and the disc skips and makes noise. SHEISSE.

i called for a replacement...i hope they send it.

I do have an old copy of the show, but hey man, i spent some good cash on this "good as possible" version.

Just send a replacement, and we can move on.

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DaP 7 & 9

Most times the second set is where the "magic" really occurs, but the first set of DaP7 is awesome and I have said that from the first time I heard it. It is an excellent show and I don't think a lot of Heads are giving it the appreciation it deserves.

The sound of DaP9 is incredible! Keith & Bobby are really up front and I love that. Anyone who is familiar with the WOS releases knows that the vocals are not always stellar due to the dual mics the band used at that time. But I think the vocals here are much better then the usual WOS shows and may be THE best release yet on that front.

DL, keep up the great work. I am loving all of the DaP releases so far, regardless of the era of the show. I am a 70's fan, but I hope we get some more early 80's shows soon. Rock on.

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re: the Dark Star

Since this release is basically centered around the excellent Dark Star, if you don't like it you might consider looking elsewhere for a more all-around solid spectacular '74 release. As for me, the meltdown part (top bullet is Quicktime Player, bottom bullet is WMP) right before the 'quick' move into a great China Doll is where it's at for me. Disc 3 is indubitably the star in my opinion, which should be no surprise to anyone that's spun the whole set already.

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Arrived in France

6375 has landed! Mrs Badger is away so I can turn it right up.

It's a shame that this page gets relegated to the backwaters, just when people are starting really interesting discussions about the release and stopping fretting and speculating. Still I guess now it's sold out, it's water under the bridge, the cash is in the bank and it's on to the next one. So it goes....we are quite spoiled really with all these goodies.

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microphone problems

i have read that the special/dual microphone setup the band used during the wall of sound shows for vocals caused some technical difficulties that did not become apparent until well into the concert run. the band has admitted such in interviews. some fans complain about a thin sound that can be overlooked by most but is there non the less.