Grateful Dead

Dave's Picks Volume 9: Harry Adams Field House, U. of Montana 5/14/74 CD - SOLD OUT

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We're kicking off Dave's Picks 2014 with a visit to the Wall Of Sound era. Dave's Picks Volume 9 features the complete show from May 14, 1974, at Adams Field House at the University of Montana in Missoula, the Grateful Dead's only appearance in the state of oro y plata. This monstrously hot show is the third official show of the Wall Of Sound, which had debuted in March 1974. Highlights run deep including the second performance of “Scarlet Begonias,” a 22+ minute “Playing In The Band” that leans heavily on the band's jazz chops, and a second set jam of “Weather Report Suite>Dark Star” that contains some of the deepest jamming of 1974, and that's saying a heck of a lot! It also features one of only a handful of versions of “Dark Star” played in 1974, a song heading toward a long hiatus, and this one digs deep into some of the wildest spaces you'll ever hear. Rockers, ballads, and jams, 5/14/74 covers all the bases, with plenty of nuances to revel in, each and every listen.

Product Details

3 Disc set
Limited to 14,000 individually numbered copies
Mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman
Digipak made of 100% recycled and PCW materials
Release Date: February 1, 2014

Listening Party

5/14/74, Missoula, Montana


"Weather Report Suite"

David Lemieux Volume 9 Seaside Chat

Tracklist

Harry Adams Field House, University of Montana, Missoula, MT (5/14/74)

Disc 1
1. Bertha [6:15]
2. Me And My Uncle [3:15]
3. Loser [6:39]
4. Black-Throated Wind [6:52]
5. Scarlet Begonias> [7:21]
6. It Must Have Been The Roses [5:44]
7. Jack Straw [5:18]
8. Tennessee Jed [8:18]
9. Mexicali Blues [3:39]
10. Deal [4:46]

Disc 2
1. Big River [5:21]
2. Brown-Eyed Woman [5:13]
3. Playing In The Band [20:49]
4. U.S. Blues [5:48]
5. El Paso [4:44]
6. Row Jimmy [8:52]

Disc 3
1. Weather Report Suite [16:08]
Prelude [1:26]
Part I [4:32]
Part II (Let It Grow) [10:10]
2. Dark Star> [26:39]
3. China Doll [5:52]
4. Promised Land [3:46]
5. Not Fade Away> [6:15]
6. Goin’ Down The Road Feeling Bad [9:58]
7. One More Saturday Night [4:50]

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Off the fence...

More late 80s, early 90s for me. Without a net is my favourite album and the bird songs from this era are transcendent for me. I never saw the band, and have all the official albums, and a few others... Perhaps not having seen them means my view is less relevant which is ok, but I'm still going to give it!

My favourite year is 1977, but that seems over represented and I guess space brother, in part, is arguing that more variety in the years released would cater for all the different era's and their fans. I'd personally like to hear more of the Vince era. There's a show from I think Boston in October 94, the first? with help slip frank, so many roads AND scarlet fire on you tube which sounds great. Such releases would provide a complete history to those who are interested in hearing them. I'm sure it will never happen, but there you are.

As I say, I never saw the band, but the emotional energy they've given me over the years is untold. Here's to the next 130 albums from whatever year...

Also, if anyone is interested in vinyl, spin cd's are advertising grey folded triple vinyl.

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Spacebro, et al

keep all those opinions coming-it is great to hear what you all are thinking and listening to from the eras of the Dead. Personally-I favor the earlier days when jams got into trance-like territory ( I love listening to those when jogging on woods trails)but in later years when the jams got shorter less "out-there" revelatory or exploratory-fresh the song interpretation got more mature to me in a good way-the lyrics were more performed than rapidly recited if you know what I mean. Maybe the band got a little more rocky and fun time. All good things-there are a host of Deads to pick from-pick your poison and crank it up. So keep those letters coming boys and girls and you know we may just all be right at one time or another. A box from the 80's-right on! One from the 90s-I'll take one please. 69?-very fine. 76-sign me up. Smoke em if you got em.

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Spacebrother

Spacebro - Well Said. Continue with your posts and lobbying for more from the 87-90 era and maybe they will finally listen and give you (and me) along with countless others what we crave.

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A Two Parter - @ owlshead & Soapbox Time

"Would you be able to put a box together from 1987?"

I could put together several box sets from '87.

Off the top of my head...
9/15-20/87 MSG
12/27-31/87 Oakland
8/11-13/87 Red Rocks
3/22-24/87 Hampton
3/26-27/87 Hartford

Really, almost every single show from the '87 Spring tour is a winner, that is, if you are a fan of '80s Dead.

I don't mind compilation/highlight releases. I also think that incomplete vault tapes combined with audience recordings to make a complete show for continuity sake would be fine to release. They've done that with a few releases already.

Thank you for asking me about my views on '87 box sets in a respectful manor owlshead! Much appreciated!

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I would like to extend my gratitude towards everyone here who have had positive and supportive things to say regarding me and my calls for more variety, particularly '80s era shows. You guys and gals are awesome!

Nails meet chalkboard...

For those who are vindictively calling me a "troll", or casting blame towards me that "Dave doesn't post here", or who go out of their way to downplay and criticize my posts regarding the sales figures, Deadbase/Tapers Compendium reviews & polls or any post of mine favorable of '80s era Dead, or those conspiring to rile up everybody here against me (pretty much the same couple of people with an ax to grind)....I'm sorry you feel that way.

Far more people here have expressed positive feedback towards my posts and/or have respectfully agreed/disagreed with my views than not. So you see, the problem doesn't lie with me, it's solely on you.

If you take issue with where I've posted interviews from band members citing the late '80s as their best era, that' on you. Same with posts of mine where I stated that the late-'80s was their best era. You can choose to respectfully agree or disagree, but if you choose the vindictive route, that's also on you.

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On a final note, I would like to express my gratitude and appreciation mostly to Mary E, Mark Pinkus, David Lemieux and everybody involved with this sight, the production side and the Dead organization for all of the time and effort you guys put into these releases and for the kind messages and correspondences for the last few years!

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Here, here....

...the home page is getting mighty stale.

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Brackets

Here's to hoping the Dead Brackets will be gone Tuesday and replaced by a picture of a sunbathing alligator drinking tea by the tracks!

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Just found out....

....that Toni Tennille filed for divorce from Daryl Dragon i.e. Captain in January of this year after almost forty years of marriage. Her reason seemed somewhat selfish if Wikipedia is to be believed. I guess love will not keep them together. My heart sank a bit. Maybe they should have covered Lovelight once or twice.....

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Was shopping at Target yesterday....

...with my son for summer shorts, and stumbled across a pretty cool Steal Your Face tee. Had to do a double take. We Will Survive indeed. Sadly, they were out of my size. Picked up a sweet Millennium Falcon engineering specs shirt instead. $12? Sold
p.s. always had a soft spot for Muskrat Love. Thought for years, what an......interesting name for a song.

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think that may be the captain

think that may be the captain with the boys? Love Carl Wilson RIP

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@claney

This thread is ruining me. The juxtaposition of Terminator with the Dead inevitably leads to Arnold singing Dead tunes. Please get this out of my head. And which era could he pull off?

If 12/12/69 is on its way, I couldn't be happier. But there is some shockingly great playing in nearly all eras to my ears - will I reach for Europe 72 before Spring 90? Sure, but every time I listen to a new show or an unexplored era, it's great to try and figure out how the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. In particular, how on heaven or earth did Jerry decide to play THAT? (Same could often be said of Bob, Phil etc)

So, take it for what it is and say thanks - and if push comes to shove, you still get to listen to the Grateful Dead. You could be listening to Arnold singing Mr Charlie or something ... So sorry

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hey wilfredtjones

"Love will keep Us together"
:)

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hey slo

I don't know if you know this (actually I don't know how I know) but the Captain and Tennille are no longer an item. :-(
P.S. To the one that asked: not a full moon, but it is first quarter according to my lunar calendar! Full moon is on tax day this year.

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what Bad News .

regarding cds, why are they, like the world, Flat ?
:]

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DaP 10 is 12/12/69 ?

Now that we know what it is, on with the future trippin'!
Whats next ?

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bad news II...

I forgot to include that the randomly picked stoner also named Dave who will do the chat until Dave L. gets back will NOT be discussing DaP 10. He will be discussing some cool topics regarding cds though, such as: why are they round?, what makes them so shiny and colorful?, and when will they ever come out with environmentally friendly, 100% post-consumer waste, recycled, soy-based cds?

**Until Dave L. gets back, please check out this fantastic Dead vid. and remember the title:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSwXPIbOodQ

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :)))))))))))))))))

I love Spacebro's posts!!!!!!!!! Nothing wrong with '80's love!('cept for big hair and vd) Keep up the good work :))))))

**I call 2nd deadhead!

The first show I attended was in June '92 when many felt that the band was done long ago. I thought it was the best sound system I've ever heard, but between all of the acid that I ate and the bud I smoked, it could've been Captain and Tennille up there singing for all I knew.

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Just got me thinking about 1st gen audience tapes.

There are many tapers out there that all but trashed their master cassettes after digitizing them with consumer DAT decks and CDR recorders.Stored in hot basements, tool sheds ,broken down micro busses and non climate controlled storage units. "Much like the missing Betty Boards.?"
Any surviving master cassettes could come in handy.DaP vol.8 sounds great to me. I hope they do more of the same with future {early to mid. 80s} releases.
Yes I agree. I have lots of 80s cassette source recordings with audience edits, missing Drums/space, bad flips,too many generations etc...
I also have some cassettes that are done well with top end gear "Marantz, Nakamichi" nice warm analog source tapes.Not much beats them.Just an opinion.
I am addicted to Nakamichi cassette decks.

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dave's not here man

hope he's not mad at us!
if so, i blame spacebrother :-)

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@SpaceBro

Would you be cool with not complete shows from the mid-late 80s?

I think it makes the most sense… That was my mid-late 80s experience… for the most part anyway

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2nd Generation cassettes ?

sorry, double post.

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2nd Generation cassettes ?

Who's got 'em ? I would love to hear 'em. Audience source please!
Any surviving 2nd generation cassettes from the 80s in original condition would be a rare find indeed. Not to mention, master tapes first generation audience or soundboard patch. There must be a few tapers out there that have them. You could count them on your fingers and toes.
If you are out there, please contact Dave for matrix possibilities.

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@claney

Haha true, not picking up a naked middle-aged guy either. Just drop that officially released 6/10/73 from the future in the mail for me, Mr. Time Traveler, and thanks in advance, brother.

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Ooo de Lally!

@fourwinds - too funny. I agree on the pitch corrections - just, as someone else said, trying to gain some perspective.

@wilfred - man, I love donuts.

@dantian - not driving a VW bug, touche. As a time traveler, I would not appear to be a dirty hippie but rather a naked middle-aged guy (according to Terminator, you have to be naked when you travel through time). Even worse! 6/10/73 - I'll have an officially released copy soon. Black Queen clip, NICE.

@badger - Hilarious. Let me know when you find the other two.

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The wheel is turning and you

The wheel is turning and you can't slow down,
You can't let go and you can't hold on,
You can't go back and you can't stand still,
If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will.

Nothing will change until sales start to drop.

I'm done won't hear nothing else from me.

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Wait a minute...

Wait a minute, watch what youre doin with your time
All the endless ruins of the past must stay behind, yeah

Well, cant you see that youre killing each others soul...

Your constant battles are getting to be a bore
So go somewhere else and continue your cream puff war

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Perhaps...Just A Theory

Perhaps it's not the lobbying for 80's/90's releases itself, per se, that exasperates some...but the sheer brain-battering RELENTLESSNESS of such requests. We all realize the cliche "the squeaky wheel gets the grease," but does this wheel sometimes screech like fingernails on a blackboard...perhaps even more relentless than right-wing Republicans trashing the A.C.A. with relentless "big lie" propaganda repeated & repeated & repeated to the point of eliciting hostility rather than cooperation? Just theorizing that such methods may cause Sir Dave to purposely ignore such requests.

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Everyone should watch this...

Jerry Garcia Interview "The History of Rock 'N' Roll"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVkkbJ_KI2Y

In the second segment Jerry talks about the "acid tests" and that it was never the same after that.

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Back somewhere in this thread...

...I posted that there should be boxes from every year 60's and 70's except for '75 and I got my had slapped.

What more do ya want?

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Not a real deadhead?

Based on the crazy claims, swingeing judgments and half baked hierarchies that have been proposed here and elsewhere in this site over the years, there must be only about three genuine true deadheads on the planet.

So that will be me and two others somewhere ;-)

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4winds, Dave's 10

"I have thousand's of hours of grateful dead under my belt you can't tell me anything I don't already know." That pretty much observes the reality of the situation ~ we might turn each other onto our favorites, but our preferences (for most of us) are pretty well defined by now. The dearth of mid-80's releases is a reality, but clamoring for them isn't going to change that reality ~ it took less "lobbying" to turn the Road Trips mission statement & entire GD release ship to complete shows only. So it's not worth the energy anymore, IMO. Including the risk of hurt feelings. And the debates are just plain getting old. I'll vote with my dollar (again and again, it would appear.... ; )

If Dave's 10 really is 12-12-69, I'm ecstatic. Honestly, I'm not thrilled about the leak--I'm sad if Dave's excitement to announce this has been spoiled; the leakers probably shoulda just PM'd each other. But bring on more from the 69/70 stash!, as promised in last year's seaside chats. This setlist looks awesome, and very different from Dave's 6. A "He Was a Friend" in a full-show context, at last. A bonus disc with the "crazy Phil" Dark Star Dave has described would be equally awesome (or 12/31 highlights, or something entirely different, like '68, '70, or '75).

For me, 66-70 has carte blanche, I'll never complain about primal Dead releases. They're crown jewels. That may sound hypocritical given my impatience with the mound of Fall '73 & Fall '71 releases--but I yam what I yam. Speaking of which, popped in disc 3 of Pauley Pavilion/Dave's 5 ~ that Eyes is sublime. The outro jam is just perfection. One of the hotter post-'72 Casey Joneses, too. Really nice mix, Billy's cymbals dust the proceedings beautifully.

An '87 box, eh? If people weren't so hung up on complete shows, a fabulous box could be compiled even from Spring '86. Assuming there were quality tapes. Remember, "Cold Rain" was left off of Harper College '70(Dick's 8) because it's a just plain terrible version, woefully out of tune. Cut a fatally flubbed "Althea" here, train-wreck "Truckin" there, and there's great music to be had even in '86. (Ever heard Playin from 3-19-86, or Iko > Estimated > Eyes > Brent & drummers jam > d/s > Wharf Rat from the night after? Or 2nd set 3-24-86? They're not sleepwalking.)

BUT I DIGRESS.... I'm hoping Dave's 10 (or 11) IS from 69/70, and if it's 12-12-69 I'll be grinning mightily..... Last year's bonus disc is one of my desert islands.

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DaP 10

12/12/69 is a great choice, and I'm very much looking forward to receiving this gem in the mail. I hope they also find a way to include Black Queen w/Stephen Stills from 12/10 on the bonus disc...

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More 69 released please!

I personally wouldn't mind if all the Dave's Picks were from 1969. Also 1968 and 1973 releases I would welcome any and everytime. Another 69 boxset would be nice for those of us who can't afford the holy grail Fillmore release. I have enjoyed both the Spring 90 and May 77 boxes, while also loving the Sunshine Daydream Vinyl.

I enjoy mid 68 to mid 69 Grateful Dead the most, but the only years I don't listen to much are from 91-95 with 92 and 95 being almost unexplored. Id also very much love to see an album sessions boxset be released, especially from the album AOXOMOXOA, I REALLY want to hear/know what/if they recorded/put music to Hunter's Eagle mall.

Just hearing the studio version of the ELEVEN in a bootleg is awesome, and the alt version of ST Stephen, the Unknown Instrumental and of course the Barb Wire Whipping Party.

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@claney

Well, first of all I wouldn't be driving a VW bug to begin with. But more importantly, there's no way I'm stopping to pick up some dirty hippie hitchhiker! Unless, of course, he has 6/10/73 in that bag :)

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@ claney

That kind of puts things in perspective no donut. (sic)

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@fourwindsblow

Maybe Dave doesn't like 1987?

"Yes!
I still can't figure out why we don't have any of the MSC from spring '87. Dave say's they don't sound that good but I don't believe that. If they sound like crap let us have them they have to sound better that the second gen cassettes that are out there."

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This a public forum

you can't complain about someone else having an opinion.

Their is nothing worse that having a show that is out of pitch.
Pitch is everything in music.

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Time Machine

Imagine you are tooling along in your VW bug, having enjoyed a killer show in Atlanta on April 2, 1990. You pick up a hitchhiker who claims to be a time traveler.

As proof, he produces a bag full of shows that are all remastered direct from the mysterious "Vault" tapes. He says, "Whaddya want to hear? I can play the show you just saw tonight at the Omni. Or, these other shows from that tour" (he produces the Spring 90 Box Set, Dozin' at the Knick, Terrapin Limited), or I can play you Veneta, heck we can watch the movie if you want... how about the entire Europe '72 tour? How about Harpur College? Would you prefer a bunch of rare cuts from '66? Maybe one of these several Fall '79 shows? Perhaps one of these shows from May 1977, most of which has been released in the future? What about Hartford '83, remember what a good time you had at that one a few years ago?" The time traveler proceeds to show you all of official releases that have come out since 1990.

Now, put yourself in the headspace of the guy in that VW bug. Are you angry that some of the stuff you want is not there? Are you upset that they've released yet ANOTHER December 1969 show just a mere year after releasing another one? Or that some of the shows don't use some thing called the Plangent Process? Or do you say.... Holy CRAP the future looks so bright, I gotta wear shades?

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just speaking for myself

I couldn't care less about what era someone likes; 60s, 70s, 80s, or 90s. Sure, I have my opinion, and I like to discuss it in a civil fashion, but at the end of the day, it's no more valid than others. What I, and others on this board, have grown frustrated with are certain posters who are downright abrasive and insulting. That has no place anywhere. There's also no place for deceiving statistics (but we won't go back there) or blanket statements that a certain era is the BEST, and if you don't agree, well, you're not a true Deadhead.

The point is, that this band hasn't been around for 19 years, but here we are, on the internet discussing them. No one's commitment can be questioned at this point. But I will question the decency of someone who suggests that they are the authority on The Dead and that their wobbly circular arguments support their personal preferences.

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@owlshead

Yes!

I still can't figure out why we don't have any of the MSC from spring '87. Dave say's they don't sound that good but I don't believe that. If they sound like crap let us have them they have to sound better that the second gen cassettes that are out there.

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Is it a full moon or what?

I feel an eighties box coming and I'm not saying that to piss anyone off.

I love it all and I love all you bro's and sis's, thank you.

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@SpaceBro

Would you be able to put a box together from 1987?

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Geeeeeeezzz...yall are a tough to please bunch

I mean people on here act like SpaceBro is bad because he has some opinions regarding not enough 1980s era releases....UUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHH, do you FKN blame him!?!? The dave picks series has had 10 releases (if in fact DP#10 is from 69) exactly one of them has been from 1980(s) the other 9 releases are from 1969-1978. There is NO QUESTION that TPTB (including Dave) favor the time frame of '69-'78...Also, the last 4 box sets/special releases are from: Winterland May 30th 1971, MAY 1977(box set), Sunshine Daydream 1972, and Family dog 4/18/70.... again clearly they favor/ over-saturate the '69-'78 period.

On top of all this, there is still NO INFO on dead.net showing DP#10 as 12/12/69...yea yea yea I've seen a couple of people with the artwork cover, until its official- I don't believe it...I'm beyond that now, give me the spring box set from either '83-'84 that Lemiux mentioned he was digging into in the Rolling Stone article

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jack straw

Mr Jack Straw when I grow up I want to be just like you

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10-27-91

One more thing my first show was 10-27-91 so I guess your all going to say I'm just a touch head and really don't no anything about the dead

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Let's all just forget it and

Let's all just forget it and enjoy whatever is released. If we "DEADHEADS" let ourselves become divided over era's it really is the end of the world.

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DaP 10

I still have a hard time believing that this pick will be just days after DaP 6. As much as I enjoyed that release, it seems too close together. I wonder if this board may be in for a surprise? My 2 cents.

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Mary is right

It's all good - 1965 through the present. Each GD era appeals to folks to different degrees. It's fine to state your preference.

Unfortunately, it has become all too common in our "modern" society to equate simple disagreement with hate, rather than just respectfully offering a difference of opinion and moving on. To steal from Aretha, R-E-S-P-E-C-T is key to a healthy debate. Hate (and name-calling) reduces debate to a backyard brawl.

Ain't no time to hate
Barely time to wait...for DaP 10 + bonus to hit the mailbox!

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re: Spacebrother

Didn't last week's temper tantrum show once and for all that he is not interested in friendly debate, but rather issuing dishonest and "Deader-than-thou" decrees?

It's time to stop enabling this behavior. We're just as guilty for feeding the troll.

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The Greastest Place On Earth!

Even on the worst night a Grateful Dead show was still the greatest place on earth.

The heck with Disney World.

HAHAHA!

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someone is cranky

"your all going to say I'm just a touch head and really don't no anything about the dead "

I don't know anything about your Deadhead status (whatever the heck that means), but I can safely say that you don't "no" anything about proper spelling, grammar, or punctuation.

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@bjornindia your welcome bro

It's nice to get stuff ya never heard before that's why I think Dave picked them first to release out of that batch of returned reels.